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Posted - 2016.05.24 13:52:03 - [1] - Quote

The recurring opportunities have been temporarily disabled on the Tranquility sever on May 24th since 13:35 UTC in order to investigate a potential issue.

Stay tuned for further updates!

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Posted - 2016.05.24 13:54:37 - [2] - Quote

server couldn't handle the hype Roll

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Posted - 2016.05.24 13:58:09 - [3] - Quote

>tfw already completed it

Dank.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 13:58:22 - [4] - Quote

I want at least a free dread alt worth of SP out of this.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 13:58:28 - [5] - Quote

Those new PSA notification things are kinda cool.

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Posted - 2016.05.24 13:58:42 - [6] - Quote

The recurring opportunities itself is issue.

The message above is random sequence of letters, please do not try to find any sense in it.

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Posted - 2016.05.24 13:58:46 - [7] - Quote

Amazing! That took less then 3h WP ccp :P
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Posted - 2016.05.24 13:58:46 - [8] - Quote

Lan Wang wrote:
server couldn't handle the hype Roll inb4 "the we want reimbursement for lost sp" crowd


I'd like to take this oportunity to say 'We want reimbursement for lost SP!'

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Posted - 2016.05.24 13:59:09 - [9] - Quote

It's been out for less than three hours and it's already broken. Good job, CCP.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 13:59:09 - [10] - Quote

You mean I logged on for nothing?! Sad

The wishlist is pretty much complete...

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Posted - 2016.05.24 13:59:23 - [11] - Quote

Most likely a expliot has been discovered, opps, have i said too much? Shocked
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:00:02 - [12] - Quote

yes they disabled it because of people using smartbomb battleships in frigate-full missions .
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:00:08 - [13] - Quote

Good, now make sure it's limited to 5m sp.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:00:38 - [14] - Quote

Better to disable than having to work on finding people who exploited. :)

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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:01:40 - [15] - Quote

Turn it back on need me centrelink.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:01:46 - [16] - Quote

I got my first 10k SP out of it. 10/10 Would kill again. Big smile
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:01:56 - [17] - Quote

-¦-¦-+-¦-+-+
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:02:09 - [18] - Quote

good, now delete this ****** daily **** from my eve. Thanks.

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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:02:17 - [19] - Quote

What's that... another bad idea made worse by poor implementation and a rush to release?

Say it ain't so!
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:02:47 - [20] - Quote

This whole thing is so freakin' laughable.
You guys just smashed my whole plan (worth 120 euros) to get money. It is like u kicked me in the face..

My goal were 4 chars on 4 accs. All for PI. After they reached 5m sp i wanted to leech sp to sell them.
Not only that it will cost me more than 30 mins every stupid day.
It also will drop the prices of skill injectors.

On the other hand. Nice that you try to bring some life to space. But it will not work like that. People will farm stuff and dock.

Why ccp, why?!
You make me bleeed!!
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:03:25 - [21] - Quote

"Potential issue"

Seriously CCP ? Who did write the code for that stuff and missed to check for AOE weapons....
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:05:30 - [22] - Quote

I think the giant penis can guy floating in Jita had something to do with this.

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.

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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:05:45 - [23] - Quote

10k bonus SP doesn't gain in fleet to all fleet members, only for member with final blow. I think it's bug...
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:07:08 - [24] - Quote

The recurring opportunities - best idea.
I like recurring opportunities
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:09:54 - [25] - Quote

The Judge wrote:
Better to disable than having to work on finding people who exploited. :)

Where what how :)
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:10:05 - [26] - Quote

+1 to leaving it turned off...
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:11:59 - [27] - Quote

"an issue"?? More like multiple issues.

Add the fact it never worked or appeared in-game for me to your bug list. I'm sure that I'm not the only person. And yes, I'm talking about post-patch and pre-pulling the feature.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:13:49 - [28] - Quote

I can't see what the problem is with Recurring Opportunities. Daily missioning always breathes fresh life in any game. This won't be any different.


Now waiting for the flames I'm about to receive.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:14:52 - [29] - Quote

I thought that was how CCPL wanted this to work, grind4XP and converting eve to a WoW clone in space?
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:16:19 - [30] - Quote

Mr Floydy wrote:
+1 to leaving it turned off...



I wish they would. If you weren't already motivated to log in and do something a 10k SP inducement isn't going to get you to do much more than log in and collect your 10k.

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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:17:12 - [31] - Quote

Adrastia Pentaghast wrote:
I can't see what the problem is with Recurring Opportunities. Daily missioning always breathes fresh life in any game. This won't be any different.


Shooting one npc... that's really stretching "daily missioning" to the extreme. There are 10s of better options available for getting players to play the game, but sadly all these suggestions got pretty much ignored in the idea thread.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:18:48 - [32] - Quote

Mr Floydy wrote:
Adrastia Pentaghast wrote:
I can't see what the problem is with Recurring Opportunities. Daily missioning always breathes fresh life in any game. This won't be any different.


Shooting one npc... that's really stretching "daily missioning" to the extreme. There are 10s of better options available for getting players to play the game, but sadly all these suggestions got pretty much ignored in the idea thread.


Feel free to evemail the CSM reps. :)

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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:20:45 - [33] - Quote

The Judge wrote:
Mr Floydy wrote:
Adrastia Pentaghast wrote:
I can't see what the problem is with Recurring Opportunities. Daily missioning always breathes fresh life in any game. This won't be any different.


Shooting one npc... that's really stretching "daily missioning" to the extreme. There are 10s of better options available for getting players to play the game, but sadly all these suggestions got pretty much ignored in the idea thread.


Feel free to evemail the CSM reps. :)


Haven't you been reading the other thread? where was the csm's voice when the announcement was released and this was getting rolled out to sisi?

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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:22:52 - [34] - Quote

Lan Wang wrote:
The Judge wrote:
Mr Floydy wrote:
Adrastia Pentaghast wrote:
I can't see what the problem is with Recurring Opportunities. Daily missioning always breathes fresh life in any game. This won't be any different.


Shooting one npc... that's really stretching "daily missioning" to the extreme. There are 10s of better options available for getting players to play the game, but sadly all these suggestions got pretty much ignored in the idea thread.


Feel free to evemail the CSM reps. :)


Haven't you been reading the other thread? where was the csm's voice when the announcement was released and this was getting rolled out to sisi?


I have been reading the threads, but if you have something you think is getting lost in the "noise", the best option is to evemail one of us.

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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:24:08 - [35] - Quote

The Judge wrote:
Better to disable than having to work on finding people who exploited. :)


How about: Better to properly design, test and implement than release early and having to work on cleaning up the mess you made.

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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:27:15 - [36] - Quote

hope it's disabled indefinitely because legacy code won't support it :D
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:27:57 - [37] - Quote

It should of never been implemented in the first place, and if it was, the rewards should have been ISK/LP or something else new, NOT SP!!!!!
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:32:14 - [38] - Quote

don't start it new, or Switch to LP.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:32:32 - [39] - Quote

Looks like server rejects recurring opportuninies. It's not late to stop yet.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:36:17 - [40] - Quote

Advenat Bedala wrote:
Looks like server rejects recurring opportuninies. It's not late to stop yet.


Come on CCP, your own game is telling you this is a bad idea. DO THE RIGHT THING
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:38:09 - [41] - Quote

Mr Floydy wrote:
+1 to leaving it turned off...

Better: turn it back on and make the 10k SP gain per rat with any weapon!
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:41:46 - [42] - Quote

Probaly server being sick at you numbing the game to scrub lvl

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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:49:40 - [43] - Quote

Can you bitter players tone it down with the Salt? You give this community a bad reputation. Give your own idea contribution or stay silent, you're making these threads hundreds of pages long, full of spam by parroting the same one sentence or less tripe.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:56:19 - [44] - Quote

Futurelord Ormand wrote:
Can you bitter players tone it down with the Salt? You give this community a bad reputation. Give your own idea contribution or stay silent, you're making these threads hundreds of pages long, full of spam by parroting the same one sentence or less tripe.


Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:57:20 - [45] - Quote

I demand at least 2 million SP for this to be delivered in 1 hour.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 14:58:07 - [46] - Quote

Maybe the Tripe is true?

Ok ill be constructive:

Stop numbing game down...Thanks?!

If you want to add more to this game CCP maybe it would be cool if you introduce non combat pets that fly next to your ship purely for vanity ofc.

You could even sell them in the auction hou.. AUR store.

Thanks. o7

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Posted - 2016.05.24 15:03:50 - [47] - Quote

CCP Phantom wrote:
Update 14:55 UTC
The recurring opportunities have been fixed and are now available again on Tranquility. We apologize forthis interruption.


Original message
The recurring opportunities have been temporarily disabled on the Tranquility sever on May 24th since 13:35 UTC in order to investigate a potential issue.

Stay tuned for further updates!



Perhaps if you'd spent more than 10 minutes on this cheap, lazy Skinner box change, obvious faults like this would have come to light.

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Posted - 2016.05.24 15:19:35 - [48] - Quote

Malcanis wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
Update 14:55 UTC
The recurring opportunities have been fixed and are now available again on Tranquility. We apologize forthis interruption.


Original message
The recurring opportunities have been temporarily disabled on the Tranquility sever on May 24th since 13:35 UTC in order to investigate a potential issue.

Stay tuned for further updates!
Perhaps if you'd spent more than 10 minutes on this cheap, lazy Skinner box change, obvious faults like this would have come to light.
You have to admit that the list of things you're incredibly salty about is growing inexorably.

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Posted - 2016.05.24 15:20:06 - [49] - Quote

The potential issue : https://i.imgur.com/HWMDfQW.jpg

P
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Posted - 2016.05.24 15:34:50 - [50] - Quote

Lost touch wrote:
Maybe the Tripe is true?

Ok ill be constructive:

Stop numbing game down...Thanks?!

If you want to add more to this game CCP maybe it would be cool if you introduce non combat pets that fly next to your ship purely for vanity ofc.

You could even sell them in the auction hou.. AUR store.

Thanks. o7

Better Futurelord Ormand?


The salt is strong with this one...
This was not just introduced to help the existing community catch up to elitests that have been playing since release, but also to make the game more new player friendly. These types of comments aren't constructive to longetivity of the game.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 15:34:52 - [51] - Quote

Futurelord Ormand wrote:
Can you bitter players tone it down with the Salt? You give this community a bad reputation. Give your own idea contribution or stay silent, you're making these threads hundreds of pages long, full of spam by parroting the same one sentence or less tripe.



our idea is to remove it.


If hundreds of pages long threads with the "parrots" all saying the same thing. Maybe we're onto something?
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Posted - 2016.05.24 15:37:32 - [52] - Quote

While the idea is nice, is there a way to 'hide' the Recurring mission box in the upper left corner? I barely have enough room to see without having that in the way, other than that, thanks for the 10k.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 15:39:06 - [53] - Quote

Aaron Honk wrote:
The potential issue : https://i.imgur.com/HWMDfQW.jpg

P


Thats precisely what I was reffering to in my post.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 15:39:17 - [54] - Quote

Ashlar Maidstone wrote:
While the idea is nice, is there a way to 'hide' the Recurring mission box in the upper left corner? I barely have enough room to see without having that in the way, other than that, thanks for the 10k.

Yes, click the shield for the recurring opportunities above your current system, it should remove it from your overview
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Posted - 2016.05.24 15:47:45 - [55] - Quote

CCP Phantom wrote:
Update 14:55 UTC
The recurring opportunities have been fixed and are now available again on Tranquility. We apologize forthis interruption.


Original message
The recurring opportunities have been temporarily disabled on the Tranquility sever on May 24th since 13:35 UTC in order to investigate a potential issue.

Stay tuned for further updates!


Thanck CCP, go on the good job o7
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Posted - 2016.05.24 15:53:23 - [56] - Quote

Juvir wrote:
Lost touch wrote:
Maybe the Tripe is true?

Ok ill be constructive:

Stop numbing game down...Thanks?!

If you want to add more to this game CCP maybe it would be cool if you introduce non combat pets that fly next to your ship purely for vanity ofc.

You could even sell them in the auction hou.. AUR store.

Thanks. o7

Better Futurelord Ormand?


The salt is strong with this one...
This was not just introduced to help the existing community catch up to elitests that have been playing since release, but also to make the game more new player friendly. These types of comments aren't constructive to longetivity of the game.



How will they catch up when the elitests (sic) will also be farming the 10k SP daily?
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Posted - 2016.05.24 15:55:37 - [57] - Quote

Enrique Escobar wrote:
Juvir wrote:
Lost touch wrote:
Maybe the Tripe is true?

Ok ill be constructive:

Stop numbing game down...Thanks?!

If you want to add more to this game CCP maybe it would be cool if you introduce non combat pets that fly next to your ship purely for vanity ofc.

You could even sell them in the auction hou.. AUR store.

Thanks. o7

Better Futurelord Ormand?


The salt is strong with this one...
This was not just introduced to help the existing community catch up to elitests that have been playing since release, but also to make the game more new player friendly. These types of comments aren't constructive to longetivity of the game.



How will they catch up when the elitests (sic) will also be farming the 10k SP daily?


Because they're obviously too elite to be bothered with collecting and using what they think dumbs down the game.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 16:00:16 - [58] - Quote

i logged in, wheres my free sp?
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Posted - 2016.05.24 16:03:22 - [59] - Quote

Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Futurelord Ormand wrote:
Can you bitter players tone it down with the Salt? You give this community a bad reputation. Give your own idea contribution or stay silent, you're making these threads hundreds of pages long, full of spam by parroting the same one sentence or less tripe.



our idea is to remove it.


If hundreds of pages long threads with the "parrots" all saying the same thing. Maybe we're onto something?


No because it-¦s completely the same thing as in most of these threads.

10 people complaining over hundreds of pages with a handful of people filling the pages with 2 posts per page. Now take 5 of these people...Oh you already filled half a page... Now take the occasional individual into account who aggrees with you and a few people who like the feature who try to argue with a wall, eh sorry, i meant who try to argue with you....Oh you just filled a page in 20 minutes...
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Posted - 2016.05.24 16:04:00 - [60] - Quote

Juvir wrote:
Lost touch wrote:
Maybe the Tripe is true?

Ok ill be constructive:

Stop numbing game down...Thanks?!

If you want to add more to this game CCP maybe it would be cool if you introduce non combat pets that fly next to your ship purely for vanity ofc.

You could even sell them in the auction hou.. AUR store.

Thanks. o7

Better Futurelord Ormand?


The salt is strong with this one...
This was not just introduced to help the existing community catch up to elitests that have been playing since release, but also to make the game more new player friendly. These types of comments aren't constructive to longetivity of the game.


You know we could just kill 1 rat a day as well and the gap wouldn't close at all..








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Posted - 2016.05.24 16:06:27 - [61] - Quote

Juvir wrote:
Enrique Escobar wrote:
Juvir wrote:
Lost touch wrote:
Maybe the Tripe is true?

Ok ill be constructive:

Stop numbing game down...Thanks?!

If you want to add more to this game CCP maybe it would be cool if you introduce non combat pets that fly next to your ship purely for vanity ofc.

You could even sell them in the auction hou.. AUR store.

Thanks. o7

Better Futurelord Ormand?


The salt is strong with this one...
This was not just introduced to help the existing community catch up to elitests that have been playing since release, but also to make the game more new player friendly. These types of comments aren't constructive to longetivity of the game.



How will they catch up when the elitests (sic) will also be farming the 10k SP daily?


Because they're obviously too elite to be bothered with collecting and using what they think dumbs down the game.


nice mischaracterisation of peoples arguments
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Posted - 2016.05.24 16:07:33 - [62] - Quote

Clearly a game breaker. I would like the full purchase price of my EVE Online Download back. ;)
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Posted - 2016.05.24 16:33:13 - [63] - Quote

Dear CCP,

Please don't get too discouraged over the toxicity of a very vocal minority. There are just as many and more of us who understand what you're trying to accomplish and acknowledge that this form of incentive system can only lead to a positive increase in player time spent in game reflected by literally every relevant piece of research on game theory and gamification. Eve has always been and will continue to be the greatest accomplishment in the history of online gaming and you should be proud of yourselves for the extraordinary amount of care you all put into making sure we users get the absolute best experience possible. From those of us with our heads sitting comfortably on our shoulders and not up our asses, sincerely, thank you.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 16:34:57 - [64] - Quote

Galadedrid Damodred wrote:
Dear CCP,

Please don't get too discouraged over the toxicity of a very vocal minority. There are just as many and more of us who understand what you're trying to accomplish and acknowledge that this form of incentive system can only lead to a positive increase in player time spent in game reflected by literally every relevant piece of research on game theory and gamification. Eve has always been and will continue to be the greatest accomplishment in the history of online gaming and you should be proud of yourselves for the extraordinary amount of care you all put into making sure we users get the absolute best experience possible. From those of us with our heads sitting comfortably on our shoulders and not up our asses, sincerely, thank you.


nice ad hominem
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Galadedrid Damodred wrote:
Dear CCP,

Please don't get too discouraged over the toxicity of a very vocal minority. There are just as many and more of us who understand what you're trying to accomplish and acknowledge that this form of incentive system can only lead to a positive increase in player time spent in game reflected by literally every relevant piece of research on game theory and gamification. Eve has always been and will continue to be the greatest accomplishment in the history of online gaming and you should be proud of yourselves for the extraordinary amount of care you all put into making sure we users get the absolute best experience possible. From those of us with our heads sitting comfortably on our shoulders and not up our asses, sincerely, thank you.



A positive increase in terms of numerics

A negative impact on actual game satisfaction, anyone who has come from other mmos where daily grinds were a thing knows what I'm talking about

Kids these days throwing the word "toxic" around as if they know what that means.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 17:04:08 - [66] - Quote

Does anyone know if there is a way to turn this blasted RO notification off on our UI and if so would you mind sharing? I looked in options, right clicked the UI menus. So far came up empty, but I admit I am not the best at this new UI.

(before anyone asks... "sandbox" allows me to skip this stuff if I want to, or I would hope I can.)

Thanks for the assist.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 17:06:39 - [67] - Quote

Galadedrid Damodred wrote:
Dear CCP,

Please don't get too discouraged over the toxicity of a very vocal minority. There are just as many and more of us who understand what you're trying to accomplish and acknowledge that this form of incentive system can only lead to a positive increase in player time spent in game reflected by literally every relevant piece of research on game theory and gamification. Eve has always been and will continue to be the greatest accomplishment in the history of online gaming and you should be proud of yourselves for the extraordinary amount of care you all put into making sure we users get the absolute best experience possible. From those of us with our heads sitting comfortably on our shoulders and not up our asses, sincerely, thank you.


Now this is going to sound a lil crazy here but:

" Eve has always been and will continue to be the greatest accomplishment in the history of online gaming"

You know eve was broken as **** at lots of points in its history rite? If you dont remember then maybe do some research.

"more of us who understand what you're trying to accomplish and acknowledge that this form of incentive system can only lead to a positive increase in player time spent in game"

Enlighten me please, it takes a frig 20 seconds to kill a single rat how does this warrant a positive increase in player time spent in game?

Seems a lot of people defend this but dont really come up with a good argument as to how it will work practically..

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Posted - 2016.05.24 18:27:25 - [68] - Quote

you should better remove this from the game .... or just let it enabled for new players ! its not that hard . thank you :) <3
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Posted - 2016.05.24 18:32:58 - [69] - Quote

It's because CCP wants all of us to have a hisec miner alt, you make one basic miner in a venture, stop training queue on him then train another char for normal activities and the miner naturally kills a little rat everyday, slowly growing to a super-wonderful amazing-miner....

I'm a bit provoking...I know....
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Posted - 2016.05.24 18:53:56 - [70] - Quote

Futurelord Ormand wrote:
Can you bitter players tone it down with the Salt? You give this community a bad reputation. Give your own idea contribution or stay silent, you're making these threads hundreds of pages long, full of spam by parroting the same one sentence or less tripe.


We have done -- repeatedly, and with multiple voices

1) We don't think the game needs it

2) If it has to happen, then PvP kills should count as well; also probably market trades above a certain amount, and entering/leaving W-space. In other words, sensible useful activities.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 19:01:45 - [71] - Quote

Tsukino Stareine wrote:


Kids these days throwing the word "toxic" around as if they know what that means.


Don't worry, when they go to college they will have safe spaces with puppies, kittens and coloring pages to protect them from the toxic environment!
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Posted - 2016.05.24 19:32:54 - [72] - Quote

Tsukino Stareine wrote:
Galadedrid Damodred wrote:
Dear CCP,

Please don't get too discouraged over the toxicity of a very vocal minority. There are just as many and more of us who understand what you're trying to accomplish and acknowledge that this form of incentive system can only lead to a positive increase in player time spent in game reflected by literally every relevant piece of research on game theory and gamification. Eve has always been and will continue to be the greatest accomplishment in the history of online gaming and you should be proud of yourselves for the extraordinary amount of care you all put into making sure we users get the absolute best experience possible. From those of us with our heads sitting comfortably on our shoulders and not up our asses, sincerely, thank you.



A positive increase in terms of numerics

A negative impact on actual game satisfaction, anyone who has come from other mmos where daily grinds were a thing THAT I CAN'T IGNORE AARGH I HAVE NO FREE WILL MUST CHOOSE TO DO THIS BECAUSE I AM A ZOMBIE SLAVE TO OPTIMISATION AT ALL COSTS EVEN WHEN IT MAKES NO SENSE knows what I'm talking about

Kids these days throwing the word "toxic" around as if they know what that means.


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Posted - 2016.05.24 21:49:47 - [73] - Quote

Lan Wang wrote:
where was the csm's voice when the announcement was released and this was getting rolled out to sisi?


CC{ announced it between CSM's in a cynical ploy to force it down our throats.

Wouldn't surprise me if that is the future direction they take with changes in order to avoid CSM interaction.
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Posted - 2016.05.24 22:24:54 - [74] - Quote

Quote:
(sic)

I don't give a crap one way or the other but I would really like to know what all this (sic) bs is about.
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Captain Quiff wrote:
Quote:
(sic)

I don't give a crap one way or the other but I would really like to know what all this (sic) bs is about.
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Sic
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Posted - 2016.05.25 04:58:40 - [76] - Quote

CCP Phantom wrote:
Update 14:55 UTC
The recurring opportunities have been fixed and are now available again on Tranquility. We apologize forthis interruption.


Original message
The recurring opportunities have been temporarily disabled on the Tranquility sever on May 24th since 13:35 UTC in order to investigate a potential issue.

Stay tuned for further updates!

Not exactly sure what the issue was but definitely good job on quickly finding and fixing it.

Just a thought, maybe have the team who fixed that start working on the other broken things in game.



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Posted - 2016.05.25 05:51:51 - [77] - Quote

I feel compelled to comment.

*todders off to buff scalp*

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Posted - 2016.05.25 06:45:39 - [78] - Quote

DeMichael Crimson wrote:
CCP Phantom wrote:
Update 14:55 UTC
The recurring opportunities have been fixed and are now available again on Tranquility. We apologize forthis interruption.


Original message
The recurring opportunities have been temporarily disabled on the Tranquility sever on May 24th since 13:35 UTC in order to investigate a potential issue.

Stay tuned for further updates!

Not exactly sure what the issue was but definitely good job on quickly finding and fixing it.

Just a thought, maybe have the team who fixed that start working on the other broken things in game.



DMC


People could smartbomb multiple rats at once, so they got 10K+10k+ etc.
Highest someone got was 70k (I think), less then 30 peeps abused it knowing it was a bug that was reported to ccp twice (I think) but never got received or was plain ignored.


PS: CCP thanks for another unremovable UI clogging up item. >.>
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Posted - 2016.05.25 07:45:34 - [79] - Quote

Juvir wrote:

This was not just introduced to help the existing community catch up to elitests that have been playing since release

Catch up to what exactly? Can we bittervets train skill past level 5? Is this crap going to magically give all the noobs the brain matter they need to compete at PvP?

It will make it a tad easier for new players coming into the game. It still won't allow anyone to *catch up*, since that whole *catching up* stuff is entirely ridiculous and not even an actual thing. There can only be so many SP pumped into any one skill.

We "elite" bittervets may have a much larger SP pool, but all that means is that we have a wider selection of ships and modules to choose from, if we so wish. Still won't give an advantage against someone that has much less SP, but has put his SP into essentially the same skills that we have as well.

Your *catching up* is nothing but a lie you tell yourself for whatever reason.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

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Posted - 2016.05.25 07:58:01 - [80] - Quote

It's silly to be so against something just because you have the mindset of "we had to do it the hard way, so everyone else should". EVE needs new ideas and mechanics if it is going to grow, and incentives to log on is one way of doing that.

However, the implementation is **** poor. Getting people to log on, kill a frigate and then log off done nothing for the game. It needs to be more challenging/involved... And there should be rewards other than sp for the older players who don't really need the sp.

The wishlist is pretty much complete...

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Posted - 2016.05.25 09:09:06 - [81] - Quote

I have found a use for it.

Not getting any passive training on an alt, this is just a slower way of training some skills on it.
But still, its uninteresting feature, and I would log in regardless, to make my PI facilities keep up producing.

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Posted - 2016.05.25 09:32:05 - [82] - Quote

My magic ball predicts huge grow in PCU which will make CCP report great success.
At the same time player interaction level will stay the same.

Marketing victory! Lol

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Posted - 2016.05.25 09:43:44 - [83] - Quote

March rabbit wrote:
My magic ball predicts huge grow in PCU...

I'm not so sure it will move the PCU much, but will move the overall login numbers. So going to be interesting to see how the stats play out. Hopefully CCP Quant makes something public in a few weeks.

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Posted - 2016.05.25 10:28:25 - [84] - Quote

Scipio Artelius wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
My magic ball predicts huge grow in PCU...

I'm not so sure it will move the PCU much, but will move the overall login numbers. So going to be interesting to see how the stats play out. Hopefully CCP Quant makes something public in a few weeks.

But its always about the effects one needs to achieve, not the effects that are showing, because, do they think that even 0,5% rise would be a success? Its a matter of perception, if glass is half empty or half full, or is it completely irrelevant because your water is polluted and undrinkable.

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Posted - 2016.05.25 11:11:50 - [85] - Quote

Nana Skalski wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
My magic ball predicts huge grow in PCU...

I'm not so sure it will move the PCU much, but will move the overall login numbers. So going to be interesting to see how the stats play out. Hopefully CCP Quant makes something public in a few weeks.

But its always about the effects one needs to achieve, not the effects that are showing, because, do they think that even 0,5% rise would be a success? Its a matter of perception, if glass is half empty or half full, or is it completely irrelevant because your water is polluted and undrinkable.
Most will still drink the Kool-aid. Even if it's glowing in the dark, smells like Victorian age sewer and produces toxic fumes.

In the end we will see what will happen, like most of us always do. And then adapt and shrug it of.

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Posted - 2016.05.25 12:04:25 - [86] - Quote

Why don't CCP get some players to test things before they are released? What ever method they use for testing at the moment seems to miss a lot of bugs.

I wanna join up. I think I got what it takes to be a Citizen.

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Posted - 2016.05.25 12:12:15 - [87] - Quote

Johnny Riko wrote:
Why don't CCP get some players to test things before they are released? What ever method they use for testing at the moment seems to miss a lot of bugs.


The goal is to test if this new system encourages people to log on... How else could you test this, other than releasing it to the masses?

The wishlist is pretty much complete...

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Posted - 2016.05.25 12:55:41 - [88] - Quote

Nana Skalski wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
My magic ball predicts huge grow in PCU...

I'm not so sure it will move the PCU much, but will move the overall login numbers. So going to be interesting to see how the stats play out. Hopefully CCP Quant makes something public in a few weeks.

But its always about the effects one needs to achieve, not the effects that are showing, because, do they think that even 0,5% rise would be a success? Its a matter of perception, if glass is half empty or half full, or is it completely irrelevant because your water is polluted and undrinkable.

CCP needs only one effect: something to declare success. For it they need more accounts, bigger PCU, bigger login numbers, etc...

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Posted - 2016.05.25 14:24:13 - [89] - Quote

Esrevid Nekkeg wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Scipio Artelius wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
My magic ball predicts huge grow in PCU...

I'm not so sure it will move the PCU much, but will move the overall login numbers. So going to be interesting to see how the stats play out. Hopefully CCP Quant makes something public in a few weeks.

But its always about the effects one needs to achieve, not the effects that are showing, because, do they think that even 0,5% rise would be a success? Its a matter of perception, if glass is half empty or half full, or is it completely irrelevant because your water is polluted and undrinkable.
Most will still drink the Kool-aid. Even if it's glowing in the dark, smells like Victorian age sewer and produces toxic fumes.

In the end we will see what will happen, like most of us always do. And then adapt and shrug it of.



Now, now, no need to bring my special home brew into all this!


I'm not completely against this, but it would be nice to be able to 'group up' the kills on a weekly basis or so. A daily login requirement can bring on burnout. Ask the WoW team!
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Posted - 2016.05.25 14:26:19 - [90] - Quote

One question for CCP, I notice this topic is not in the Information forum. It's a new feature, so I'm surprised it's relegated to General?
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Posted - 2016.05.25 18:35:05 - [91] - Quote

Joia Crenca wrote:
One question for CCP, I notice this topic is not in the Information forum. It's a new feature, so I'm surprised it's relegated to General?


You mean this Threadnaught?

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Posted - 2016.05.25 18:40:25 - [92] - Quote

Thank you CCP! I'm loving this feature. Bring more please.
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Posted - 2016.05.26 09:01:15 - [93] - Quote

Nana Skalski wrote:
I have found a use for it.

Not getting any passive training on an alt, this is just a slower way of training some skills on it.
But still, its uninteresting feature, and I would log in regardless, to make my PI facilities keep up producing.
This is exactly how I was thinking of using it. However, so far have just been killing belt rats with my main.
   
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