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PDoggy
Minmatar
Valid Character Corporation
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Posted - 2007.02.26 20:33:00 -
[31]
Goonswarm threads are the new BoB threads c/d? As far as I know the only goal is to kill people that act like****gots, not become "omnipotence itself" like BoB.
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Nymos
Fimbulvintr
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Posted - 2007.02.26 20:36:00 -
[32]
i can't believe i became *that* low, but i find myself cheering up goons instead of cursing them. go, goons, go!!
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Mullacaust
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 20:51:00 -
[33]
i will fight BoD until ill end up in noob ships if needed.
they have been to*****y in the world of eve
NOW LET THE SLAUGHTER CONTINU
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Cupdeez
Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.26 20:57:00 -
[34]
Edited by: Cupdeez on 26/02/2007 20:54:31
 Originally by: Cupdeez
I would say about 40% of the Goons have top notch skills. So take 3,000 members and out of that you have 1200 members that can PVP just as good as *snip* or LV. People say how good LV is but I didnÆt really see it. LV players drop a ton of T1 loot and all of the things they did in this game involved using more numbers then the enemy (I have no problem using what you have but LV canÆt use that against Goons).
*snip* on the other hand has like 1800 members most of which are the same members with 3-6 accounts that are pretty much maxed out. I would say about 85-90% of there members are top notch players but they only can field about 300 members then they need to use other allies who are miners (AKA *snip* Meat Shield). Fill in the names here:
RA is probably a little better then LV but I would say they are about 75-80% top notch PVP players but LV use to have numbers on them.
I canÆt comment on CA since we are relatively new to the alliance. I can stay that IMP with its 800 members was in the 80-85% range for top notch PVP players.
If *snip* dies and leaves all that space IÆm sure the coalition will divided up some of the area to make there boarders a little bit bigger then basically give the rest to anyone who wants to come and take it (It might look something like the Stain Region).
If we do kick *snip*/LV and friends out of 0.0 IÆm sure they will reform and take some 0.0 space else where and then it all will just start over again. Welcome to 0.0 space.
Do not troll. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
you must be a BOB alt... People can call us NCA but we can't make nick names for them? Yup sounds like CCP.
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Laura Baretta
Minmatar
Caelestis Caedes
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Posted - 2007.02.26 21:06:00 -
[35]
Somehow Goons appear to be the Galleon-figures of the coalition, puting oil into the fire. But they are also the ones that field they huge amounts of t1 frigs and cruisers. They can probably gain the most if the coalition succeeds.
On the other hand I doubt the Goons as a single entity could stand on their own feet in 0.0 yet. Right now they have an excellent propaganda machinery tho, and their public relations forged and mobilized the coalition that might bring BoB to its knees. That is the true accomplishment of the Goons in this war so far. Altho they may also only have been the last little spark to ignite the anti-bob chain reaction.
Future will tell if the other alliances will leave them alone after this war, however it may end.
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Helganstandt
Finis Lumen
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Posted - 2007.02.26 21:14:00 -
[36]
Edited by: Helganstandt on 26/02/2007 21:12:40
Originally by: Shin Ra
Our ultimate plan is to have 1000 goons in titans and spam every non-occupied system we don't want with a Caldari outpost.
I know you're just kidding...but that's not a half-bad idea...
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Rudy Metallo
Minmatar
G.H.O.S.T
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Posted - 2007.02.26 21:21:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Rudy Metallo on 26/02/2007 21:17:43
This is, in all honesty, the exact image of the Gothic tribes vs the Roman legions.
The roman legions were highly skilled troops who had proven themselves time and time again as effecient killing and conquering juggernauts.
The goths were less disciplined, although they did posess some skill as individual warriors, but didn't fight because they were told, instead fighting with passion and for a cause. They just swarmed their enemy with massive numbers, and while they were beaten time and time again, they kept at it, tossing themselves into the fray regardless of their own lives. And eventually the Romans broke, under the wight of their own empire and being unable to guard all of the frontiers at the same time. The goths overran, and demolished, the roman empire.
I believe that someone, in the wardec post, said something along the lines of :
"Attacking east now are we? Because that worked out so well for Napolean.
How very wise this person was. 
Sorry if I sounded over-dramtic.
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Powdder
CL0CKW0RK 0RANGE
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Posted - 2007.02.26 21:40:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Zell
Its just you...
Goons aren't here to stay, they are the flavor of the month. as pointed out above, Ra is pulling the strings, IAC backs them in technology/industry. Take that away (IE, we are done now goons, go away) and they are once again meat shields for the universe. They have powerful, rich alliances. They are neither powerful nor rich themselves.
When the puppetmasters are done with them, they are going back to the noob status they left before.
By them selves they will never hold anything of value....
this statement is totally in contradiction to not only game mechanics, but goon history. First, the goons have been whipped out by bob before, yet surprise surprise, they are back, and badder than ever. second, do you really think that the goons don't continue to train skills simply to retain the status of noobs that you label them with? of course not. lot of us older players can beat a goon or 3 solo granted. But the goons don't bring 3 players to beat 1 person, they bring 20. Also add in the fact that the goons have been around for how long? I hardly think your assumption that the goons are a month long fire special is accurate. Begone.
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JackOfHearts
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 22:11:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Herculite
Edited by: Herculite on 26/02/2007 17:24:18
Originally by: Helganstandt
So anyway, point I'm making, the conflict isn't about conquest, it's about taking BoB out of the picture. They got too powerful and were arrogant about it, so people wanted to see them gone.
It might be a WEEEEE bit early to be talking about an alliance with 3 titans, a massive cap fleet, and some of the best pilots in the game in the past tense.
Who knows what the outcome will be, but personally I think it's going to be a long war.
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Wylker
Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.02.26 22:15:00 -
[40]
Hrm, I don't want to flame, but I think people posting in this topic are woefully ignorant of who Goonswarm is. I challange you to go to their website, look at their public forums, and do some research into the past of Goonswarm. What you will see will shock you, and hopefully make coalition members realize with whom they have aligned themselves. The short and sweet of it is that Goonswarm joins games with the intent to ruin them for other people (and has been quite successful in the past). I'm not going to get into an arguement about it here, go see for yourself.
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redeyehunter
Minmatar
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.26 22:28:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Cupdeez
I would say about 40% of the Goons have top notch skills. So take 3,000 members and out of that you have 1200 members that can PVP just as good as *snip* or LV. People say how good LV is but I didnÆt really see it. LV players drop a ton of T1 loot and all of the things they did in this game involved using more numbers then the enemy (I have no problem using what you have but LV canÆt use that against Goons).
*snip* on the other hand has like 1800 members most of which are the same members with 3-6 accounts that are pretty much maxed out. I would say about 85-90% of there members are top notch players but they only can field about 300 members then they need to use other allies who are miners (AKA *snip* Meat Shield). Fill in the names here:
RA is probably a little better then LV but I would say they are about 75-80% top notch PVP players but LV use to have numbers on them.
I canÆt comment on CA since we are relatively new to the alliance. I can stay that IMP with its 800 members was in the 80-85% range for top notch PVP players.
If *snip* dies and leaves all that space IÆm sure the coalition will divided up some of the area to make there boarders a little bit bigger then basically give the rest to anyone who wants to come and take it (It might look something like the Stain Region).
If we do kick *snip*/LV and friends out of 0.0 IÆm sure they will reform and take some 0.0 space else where and then it all will just start over again. Welcome to 0.0 space.
Do not troll. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
Not sure whom in thier right mind would bash LV players as not being skilled players.
Come on we are fighting 5+ alliences with less number and still standing and still killing propotionaly more hostiles and in certain cases still holding systems(techical problems permitting. ccp need to fix those for everybodies sake).
Our current fleet battles are like 85 LV vs 200+ hostiles and we still inflicting massive damage with our small numbers. When your alliance can hold out as long as we have under the circumstances then you have the right to bash LV all you want.
I personally am proud of the performance of every single LV member I have met on the battlfield. We the OLD GUARD still stand Proud and Tall.
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Ewa Quillam
Caldari
mega mining corporation
Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.02.26 22:29:00 -
[42]
Edited by: Ewa Quillam on 26/02/2007 22:27:19
Originally by: Wylker
Hrm, I don't want to flame, but I think people posting in this topic are woefully ignorant of who Goonswarm is. I challange you to go to their website, look at their public forums, and do some research into the past of Goonswarm. What you will see will shock you, and hopefully make coalition members realize with whom they have aligned themselves. The short and sweet of it is that Goonswarm joins games with the intent to ruin them for other people (and has been quite successful in the past). I'm not going to get into an arguement about it here, go see for yourself.
I'm sure they will ruin it for BoB. If not (and god of eve forbid that) BoB will surely ruin it for us, they've already started.
I don't know any Goon or had to deal with, but I remember seeing a list of the goons that will be dread capable, well it was a 40 member list and counting... talk about them being poor. More than half of them had their dread... i guess we shall see some cap force display soon enough.
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Avitar
Caldari
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.26 22:48:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Avitar on 26/02/2007 22:46:29
I think this sums it up nicely..
Good Fight Goons
T2 fitted goon pwn mobiles
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Aceonfire
Caldari
JuBa Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:25:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Space Harrier
Is it just me, or does it look like the Goons have well and truly landed on the EVE galaxy with a big bang?
It has become more and more apparant that the goons are doing everything they can to get as many accounts (regardless of skillpoints) into their alliance as possible.
Their tactic, is simply to blob a system so horribly, that the game will not work anymore.
This is evident by the number of brand new accounts, in their alliance, and at every major encounter in this war.
During every Goon large scale encouter, a large percentage of the accounts involved are less than 1 month old, and in t1 frigates.
If you were to add up the number of skillpoints in all of the Goon alliance, I would wager it is less than any single 1 well known corporation in any large alliance in EVE, or very close to it.
I also believe there is a huge amount of account sharing in Goonfleet. I have a goon source that has informed me of many of these new accounts being shared by whoever is online, just to show numbers.
Everyone in EVE should be worried about this, because of the current lack of ability for the game to support a system with anything over 2 to 300 pilots.
Of course CCP will not do much about this, because to them, these accounts are bringing them money.
I have been working on this for quite some time, and will continue to try to get more solid evidence, and present it to CCP.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:36:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: Space Harrier
Is it just me, or does it look like the Goons have well and truly landed on the EVE galaxy with a big bang?
It has become more and more apparant that the goons are doing everything they can to get as many accounts (regardless of skillpoints) into their alliance as possible.
Their tactic, is simply to blob a system so horribly, that the game will not work anymore.
This is evident by the number of brand new accounts, in their alliance, and at every major encounter in this war.
During every Goon large scale encouter, a large percentage of the accounts involved are less than 1 month old, and in t1 frigates.
If you were to add up the number of skillpoints in all of the Goon alliance, I would wager it is less than any single 1 well known corporation in any large alliance in EVE, or very close to it.
I also believe there is a huge amount of account sharing in Goonfleet. I have a goon source that has informed me of many of these new accounts being shared by whoever is online, just to show numbers.
Everyone in EVE should be worried about this, because of the current lack of ability for the game to support a system with anything over 2 to 300 pilots.
Of course CCP will not do much about this, because to them, these accounts are bringing them money.
I have been working on this for quite some time, and will continue to try to get more solid evidence, and present it to CCP.
The only thing that would concern me is account sharing. Other than that, I just see a bunch of whinning.
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DeathBunny II
The Black Rabbits
Fatal Persuasion
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:36:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: Space Harrier
Is it just me, or does it look like the Goons have well and truly landed on the EVE galaxy with a big bang?
It has become more and more apparant that the goons are doing everything they can to get as many accounts (regardless of skillpoints) into their alliance as possible.
Their tactic, is simply to blob a system so horribly, that the game will not work anymore.
This is evident by the number of brand new accounts, in their alliance, and at every major encounter in this war.
During every Goon large scale encouter, a large percentage of the accounts involved are less than 1 month old, and in t1 frigates.
If you were to add up the number of skillpoints in all of the Goon alliance, I would wager it is less than any single 1 well known corporation in any large alliance in EVE, or very close to it.
I also believe there is a huge amount of account sharing in Goonfleet. I have a goon source that has informed me of many of these new accounts being shared by whoever is online, just to show numbers.
Everyone in EVE should be worried about this, because of the current lack of ability for the game to support a system with anything over 2 to 300 pilots.
Of course CCP will not do much about this, because to them, these accounts are bringing them money.
I have been working on this for quite some time, and will continue to try to get more solid evidence, and present it to CCP.
Oh Juba Corp does your insane bitterness have no bounds?
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GanjaBear
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:42:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: Space Harrier
Is it just me, or does it look like the Goons have well and truly landed on the EVE galaxy with a big bang?
It has become more and more apparant that the goons are doing everything they can to get as many accounts (regardless of skillpoints) into their alliance as possible.
Their tactic, is simply to blob a system so horribly, that the game will not work anymore.
This is evident by the number of brand new accounts, in their alliance, and at every major encounter in this war.
During every Goon large scale encouter, a large percentage of the accounts involved are less than 1 month old, and in t1 frigates.
If you were to add up the number of skillpoints in all of the Goon alliance, I would wager it is less than any single 1 well known corporation in any large alliance in EVE, or very close to it.
I also believe there is a huge amount of account sharing in Goonfleet. I have a goon source that has informed me of many of these new accounts being shared by whoever is online, just to show numbers.
Everyone in EVE should be worried about this, because of the current lack of ability for the game to support a system with anything over 2 to 300 pilots.
Of course CCP will not do much about this, because to them, these accounts are bringing them money.
I have been working on this for quite some time, and will continue to try to get more solid evidence, and present it to CCP.
Ace..
you are doing your alliance no favours..
that post sounds like a cry baby who has had its dummy taken away, LV is a proud alliance with a strong PvP base, making it look like a spoilt five year old deprived of its toys only demeans yourselves.
stop crying and start doing what LV is famous for, when backed in a corner fihjt like hell..
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Aceonfire
Caldari
JuBa Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:44:00 -
[48]
Originally by: DeathBunny II
Oh Juba Corp does your insane bitterness have no bounds?
Who are you?
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Aceonfire
Caldari
JuBa Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:47:00 -
[49]
Originally by: GanjaBear
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: Space Harrier
Is it just me, or does it look like the Goons have well and truly landed on the EVE galaxy with a big bang?
It has become more and more apparant that the goons are doing everything they can to get as many accounts (regardless of skillpoints) into their alliance as possible.
Their tactic, is simply to blob a system so horribly, that the game will not work anymore.
This is evident by the number of brand new accounts, in their alliance, and at every major encounter in this war.
During every Goon large scale encouter, a large percentage of the accounts involved are less than 1 month old, and in t1 frigates.
If you were to add up the number of skillpoints in all of the Goon alliance, I would wager it is less than any single 1 well known corporation in any large alliance in EVE, or very close to it.
I also believe there is a huge amount of account sharing in Goonfleet. I have a goon source that has informed me of many of these new accounts being shared by whoever is online, just to show numbers.
Everyone in EVE should be worried about this, because of the current lack of ability for the game to support a system with anything over 2 to 300 pilots.
Of course CCP will not do much about this, because to them, these accounts are bringing them money.
I have been working on this for quite some time, and will continue to try to get more solid evidence, and present it to CCP.
Ace..
you are doing your alliance no favours..
that post sounds like a cry baby who has had its dummy taken away, LV is a proud alliance with a strong PvP base, making it look like a spoilt five year old deprived of its toys only demeans yourselves.
stop crying and start doing what LV is famous for, when backed in a corner fihjt like hell..
Ganja, I have been fighting, and will continue to do so, and enjoy the game greatly.
However everyone knows the game mechanics, do not allow the game to be played the way it is designed.
When an entire alliances sets in action a plan to exploit, what is without a doubt, the single biggest problem with this game, I feel someone should speak up.
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GanjaBear
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:47:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: DeathBunny II
Oh Juba Corp does your insane bitterness have no bounds?
Who are you?
some one who doesnt cry like a babe perhaps 
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GanjaBear
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:50:00 -
[51]
Quote:
When an entire alliances sets in action a plan to exploit, what is without a doubt, the single biggest problem with this game, I feel someone should speak up.
so speak and we will continue to ignore whining and pleading, give you a tip my son, you will get far more respect when you stop crying on the forums and just pew pew
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Aceonfire
Caldari
JuBa Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.26 23:54:00 -
[52]
Edited by: Aceonfire on 26/02/2007 23:54:44
Originally by: GanjaBear
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: DeathBunny II
Oh Juba Corp does your insane bitterness have no bounds?
Who are you?
some one who doesnt cry like a babe perhaps
This coming from someone who lacks the backbone to post with their Goon main account?
I posted facts, that is all. The only people who will percieve it as whining are the people who stand to lose by having the facts out in the open.
Anyone else will wait and see what CCP decides to do with these facts.
The game starts becoming extrememly frustrating, waiting 30 mins to login, or 10 mins for a module to activate, or any of the other problems that are associated with the current software/hardware abilities to handle the game mechanics put forth by CCP.
To anyone who respects this game, anyone using a tactic to make that aspect even worse to gain an advantage, should be forced to mine veld in empire imo.
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:08:00 -
[53]
nice region, let's swarm it
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x racer
Vengeance of the Fallen
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:08:00 -
[54]
Edited by: x racer on 27/02/2007 00:10:02
Originally by: Wylker
Hrm, I don't want to flame, but I think people posting in this topic are woefully ignorant of who Goonswarm is. I challange you to go to their website, look at their public forums, and do some research into the past of Goonswarm. What you will see will shock you, and hopefully make coalition members realize with whom they have aligned themselves. The short and sweet of it is that Goonswarm joins games with the intent to ruin them for other people (and has been quite successful in the past). I'm not going to get into an arguement about it here, go see for yourself.
Have you done any research of Evolutions history in other games? If not, you might be suprised.
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pakpak
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:20:00 -
[55]
Quote:
I posted facts, that is all. The only people who will percieve it as whining are the people who stand to lose by having the facts out in the open.
Nope.. its definatly a whine...
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Aceonfire
Caldari
JuBa Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:26:00 -
[56]
Originally by: pakpak
Quote:
I posted facts, that is all. The only people who will percieve it as whining are the people who stand to lose by having the facts out in the open.
Nope.. its definatly a whine...
K, but only since someone of your importance says so.
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pakpak
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:31:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Aceonfire
Originally by: pakpak
Quote:
I posted facts, that is all. The only people who will percieve it as whining are the people who stand to lose by having the facts out in the open.
Nope.. its definatly a whine...
K, but only since someone of your importance says so.
want a hanky to dry those tears?
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:44:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Space Harrier
Which factions will grow closer together and which will break and grow apart.
As far as im aware the current coalition is purely to kill Bob, since 0.0 people in general don't like too much blue around all that much a lot of them will prolly go back to being neutral after the war.
Wake up, nobody can kill an alliance.
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elohllird
Gallente
Constructive Influence
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:53:00 -
[59]
Edited by: elohllird on 27/02/2007 00:49:28
/me is scared by the school of applied knowledge
post with your main! ffs
and saying someone is whining, when hiding behind an alt is as funny as f***
grow some balls girls
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PDoggy
Minmatar
Valid Character Corporation
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Posted - 2007.02.27 00:59:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Rudy Metallo
Edited by: Rudy Metallo on 26/02/2007 21:17:43
This is, in all honesty, the exact image of the Gothic tribes vs the Roman legions.
The roman legions were highly skilled troops who had proven themselves time and time again as effecient killing and conquering juggernauts.
The goths were less disciplined, although they did posess some skill as individual warriors, but didn't fight because they were told, instead fighting with passion and for a cause. They just swarmed their enemy with massive numbers, and while they were beaten time and time again, they kept at it, tossing themselves into the fray regardless of their own lives. And eventually the Romans broke, under the wight of their own empire and being unable to guard all of the frontiers at the same time. The goths overran, and demolished, the roman empire.
I believe that someone, in the wardec post, said something along the lines of :
"Attacking east now are we? Because that worked out so well for Napolean.
How very wise this person was.
Sorry if I sounded over-dramtic.
It's funny, you wouldn't be able to count how many terrible WW2 analogies get drawn on goonfleet.com This one's not so bad except uh, beaten time and time again? There have been fleet fight losses in the past couple of months, a couple of big ones, but I'm pretty sure they number less than the victories.
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