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Scotlad Brass Monkeys	Posted - 2007.02.27 11:26:00 - [1] Forgot to add in my corp name. I dont know why you are all whining about Privateers. I am currently in a corp who was war deced by Privateers and we are loving it. Privateers were actually payed by another corp to war dec us because we war deced them and killed a few of their ships. We are not bitter and we are making the most of it. Sure it was a bit scary to start with but so far, one day into the war, we have had about 4-5 kills and only 1-2 loses. As many posts have said Privateers are mostly made up of small gangs so as long as you are not stupid you can avoid them or even gang up with others and fight back. Privateers is exactly what this game needs, too many people sit in Empire and never actually get involved in this game, I personally have done exactly that up until now. Being war deced by Privateers has opened a whole new chapter in this game for me and I think it is great. So stop all your whining and deal with it, this is after all a pvp game and it should not be changed to satisfy you lot whining when you are stupid enough to go to Jita, which you all know is lagged because of the amount of people that go there. Use your brains and use alts, or better still sell your stuff on the outskirts of Jita, that way it might just remove the amount of people that actually visit it. People like you cause the problem in Jita by selling the stuff there, if the stuff is moved to other systems then Jita wont be as lagged. Scotlad Brass Monkeys This is my own personal view and does not reflect the views of my corp or its members.
WETRAIN Minmatar R.U.S.T. Kith of Venal	Posted - 2007.02.27 11:30:00 - [2] i am recruiting u know ----------------------------------------- RUST IS RECRUTING! -----------------------------------------
wild Ari Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 11:31:00 - [3] Originally by: Scotlad Post of the Month absolutely true.
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 11:46:00 - [4] Originally by: Scotlad So stop all your whining and deal with it, this is after all a pvp game and it should not be changed to satisfy you lot whining when you are stupid enough to go to Jita, which you all know is lagged because of the amount of people that go there. Use your brains and use alts, or better still sell your stuff on the outskirts of Jita, that way it might just remove the amount of people that actually visit it. People like you cause the problem in Jita by selling the stuff there, if the stuff is moved to other systems then Jita wont be as lagged. Ok first off, this is not a PvP game, it a MMORPG... look it up because I can't be arsed to explain it. Second off, 4/5 kills?? sweet, i think they need a hall of fame thread just for you. (not sure if you noticed no small amount of sarcasm there) Next, PvP well that assumes its player VERSUS player ie the opposing player can fight back. Unfortunately Privateers have the rep of ganking haulers, ganking players whose screen is still loading in Jita etc etc. That just isn't PvP, thats cheap thrill tactics rather than any sort of real challenge that deserves respect. Aaaand finally.... if you want real PvP, try 0.0 where the real challenges lie and where pilots have to fight back or be slapped into oblivion. It's where pilots, corporations and alliances lay it all on the line with very few places to hide. It's where a PvP pilot earns his stripes, where corporations develop there reputation and alliances fight for survival on a daily basis.... ever seen privateers in 0.0?? Mate... ok one last point, get real... you have no clue, privateers are just quake in spacers looking for cheap kicks and leaving as soon as it gets rough. I think it's about time we started back deccing all those corps who find the going a wee bit too rough and leave privateers. ---------------------------------------------- We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by
Ritchler Gallente BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.02.27 11:56:00 - [5] Originally by: Heptameron Originally by: Scotlad So stop all your whining and deal with it, this is after all a pvp game and it should not be changed to satisfy you lot whining when you are stupid enough to go to Jita, which you all know is lagged because of the amount of people that go there. Use your brains and use alts, or better still sell your stuff on the outskirts of Jita, that way it might just remove the amount of people that actually visit it. People like you cause the problem in Jita by selling the stuff there, if the stuff is moved to other systems then Jita wont be as lagged. Ok first off, this is not a PvP game, it a MMORPG... look it up because I can't be arsed to explain it. Second off, 4/5 kills?? sweet, i think they need a hall of fame thread just for you. (not sure if you noticed no small amount of sarcasm there) Next, PvP well that assumes its player VERSUS player ie the opposing player can fight back. Unfortunately Privateers have the rep of ganking haulers, ganking players whose screen is still loading in Jita etc etc. That just isn't PvP, thats cheap thrill tactics rather than any sort of real challenge that deserves respect. Aaaand finally.... if you want real PvP, try 0.0 where the real challenges lie and where pilots have to fight back or be slapped into oblivion. It's where pilots, corporations and alliances lay it all on the line with very few places to hide. It's where a PvP pilot earns his stripes, where corporations develop there reputation and alliances fight for survival on a daily basis.... ever seen privateers in 0.0?? Mate... ok one last point, get real... you have no clue, privateers are just quake in spacers looking for cheap kicks and leaving as soon as it gets rough. I think it's about time we started back deccing all those corps who find the going a wee bit too rough and leave privateers. LOL, don't be so bitter, jus cause you got spanked out of querious hardcore Privateers do what the game needs yah silly miner, dun like it? Quit
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Ziu Wraith Recondite	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:06:00 - [7] The knee-jerking anti-privateer posts are pretty great. "How dare you gank us in empire? Come to 0.0 where we can gank you!" I imagine it must make Empire space a real ***** to use, though - you can no longer get your hauler to the first 0.5 and hit autopilot. I can understand why people hate the Privateersfor that reason alone. That said, any sentence starting with "Privateers just" is clearly retarded, as all of the corps in the alliance have different ideas and plans. They join for the enormous number of targets, not for any synchronised attacks (yes, I know that happens now and then but it's not the majority of play). Take X13 and BYDI - are they really PvP nubbers who can only get a hauler gank? No? Maybe some of the other corps aren't either. -- [WREC] is recruiting.
knifee Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:13:00 - [8] Edited by: knifee on 27/02/2007 12:12:47 Originally by: Heptameron Second off, 4/5 kills?? sweet, i think they need a hall of fame thread just for you. (not sure if you noticed no small amount of sarcasm there) Why smack this guy cous hes having some fun? Hes been war deced, and hes fighting back (and winning?). I guess what hes doing isn't 'real pvp'? Originally by: Heptameron Aaaand finally.... if you want real PvP, try 0.0 where the real challenges lie and where pilots have to fight back or be slapped into oblivion. It's where pilots, corporations and alliances lay it all on the line with very few places to hide. And now you have one less place to hide... which is, lets face it, what you're so bitter about. www.eve-dev.net - makeing a good thing better
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Faaip De Oiad	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:13:00 - [9] Originally by: Heptameron Next, PvP well that assumes its player VERSUS player ie the opposing player can fight back. Unfortunately Privateers have the rep of ganking haulers, ganking players whose screen is still loading in Jita etc etc. That just isn't PvP, thats cheap thrill tactics rather than any sort of real challenge that deserves respect. you've never been in a ganksquad? doubt it. what's the difference between someone undocking from jita 4-4 during a wardec and someone staying in a belt in 0.0 while a scout jumps into the system? in the best case both made a mistake, in the worst case both are stupid. do i have to call you a "n00bish ganker" because you took part in a ganksquad? or do you prefer to be called as a "PvPer who doesn't mind where to find kills" .. i'd prefer the later tbh. ;) Quote: Aaaand finally.... if you want real PvP, try 0.0 where the real challenges lie and where pilots have to fight back or be slapped into oblivion. It's where pilots, corporations and alliances lay it all on the line with very few places to hide. It's where a PvP pilot earns his stripes, where corporations develop there reputation and alliances fight for survival on a daily basis.... ever seen privateers in 0.0?? so you're saying - 0.0 is the "hard mens" land while hi-sec should stay a carebears wet dream? oh and "real PvP" in 0.0 has become to 95% PvPOS .. so what's the challenge again in shooting some NPC controlled structure? on another note - reputation is independent from location. the quality of the corp gets you reputation, not the place where you operate. or you gonna tell me that some carebear corp as a resident of a bigger 0.0 alliance has a better reputation than for example Veto.? Quote: Mate... ok one last point, get real... you have no clue, privateers are just quake in spacers looking for cheap kicks and leaving as soon as it gets rough. I think it's about time we started back deccing all those corps who find the going a wee bit too rough and leave privateers. so what's your point? i couldn't care less if all the corps that leave PVTs get wardecced by other corps. but something that annoys me a lot are people that complain that "PVTs have it so easy .. blah blah blah" ... when do people realize? - in EVE it's only "easy" for your opponent if you make it easy. ___________________ -Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
Doktor Soet The X-Trading Company Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:46:00 - [10] Edited by: Doktor Soet on 27/02/2007 12:44:22 well this hole privateer thing is something that i dont really care about. they live in empire, i live in 0.0 space. so i hardly see them on my short trips through empire. so perhaps i`m not the right person to judge about all the things that happen round privateers... BUT... respect to 3 pilots that were in orvolle bout 5 days ago. small d2 gang (~7-10 pilots dunno exactly) made a quick trip to empire and was waiting for members to fly back for bout 15 to 20 mins. during this time they undocked with 3 bs and lost 2 of them. was something i didn`t expect. honestly how many pilots would undock and aggro with 3 bs when u know outside r 2 command ships, some cruisers and frigs waiting for u? in my opinion this fight was lost when they undocked but they fought. respect for that. best regards soet
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:52:00 - [11] The problem is all the mission agents are in empire. Move more mission agents into 0.0 and no one will care about Privateers. We need to be able to hire agents into coming to our stations. Privateers is a joke really. The real motivation behind is it easy hauler and mission runner gankings. Do what I suggested and their targets will disapear, they will get bored, disband, looking for a place in the bigger alliance for pew pew, and be rejected because they were in a corp that was in Privateers. Digging their own grave really. My opinion anyway. Tonight's the night the world begins again...
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:57:00 - [12] Edited by: Heptameron on 27/02/2007 12:54:16 Originally by: Ritchler LOL, don't be so bitter, jus cause you got spanked out of querious hardcore Privateers do what the game needs yah silly miner, dun like it? Quit hahaha this has to be the funniest reply i've seen! spanked out of querious?? jeez dude you really need to stop taking those lil green pills and get a dose of reality check 101. As for mining... now that's a serious allegation!! I have not strapped on a mining laser (despite numerous nefarious rumours!), for around 8 months, the last time because my CEO threatened us all with physical violence. errrm who else was choking s*ty replies at me... hang on just got to go back and laugh at the spanked out of querious reply hehehe seriously dude. hohum yea @knifee..... read the OP and i believe his posted was smacking anyone who didn't agree with privateers way of playing. Want me to quote the parts in question? The right of reply is mine and I choose to in the way I have done. And as for the hiding comment uhuh yea right, not even going to bother replying because you obviously don't know me (well why would you anyway) or the way we operate. But thanks for the replies anyway, first bit of fun on these forums in a while and no doubt i'll be getting spoken to most severely later ---------------------------------------------- We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by**
Garnerius De'Nugent Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:58:00 - [13] Edited by: Garnerius De''Nugent on 27/02/2007 12:55:16 Originally by: Heptameron ever seen privateers in 0.0?? If you could quickly run past me why we would spend billions on wardecs to shoot you in EMPIRE then go into 0.0 to effectively waste all that ISK, I'd mucho appreciate it. Also, you might want to check our killboards before saying privateers never go to 0.0 So in response to your question; Originally by: Heptameron ever seen privateers in 0.0?? COMPUTER SAYS YES. Now stfu. --- Originally by: Deathwing all of you grab ur sanitary napkins, stfu and get back in ur eve kitchens and make me a pie
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 13:05:00 - [14] Originally by: Garnerius De'Nugent Edited by: Garnerius De''Nugent on 27/02/2007 12:55:16 Originally by: Heptameron ever seen privateers in 0.0?? If you could quickly run past me why we would spend billions on wardecs to shoot you in EMPIRE then go into 0.0 to effectively waste all that ISK, I'd mucho appreciate it. Also, you might want to check our killboards before saying privateers never go to 0.0 So in response to your question; Originally by: Heptameron ever seen privateers in 0.0?? COMPUTER SAYS YES. Now stfu. rofl ok ok!! I admit it sniff I did it for the wind up and auto steam generation that mentioning privateers normally gets going. Bit like mentioning the B word and auto modding/closure of topics. To be honest you're not ALL bad, just leave a slight odor in most areas you visit :p Anyway, thanks for making my day just a little brighter. ---------------------------------------------- We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.27 13:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Garnerius De'Nugent Edited by: Garnerius De''Nugent on 27/02/2007 12:59:32 Edited by: Garnerius De''Nugent on 27/02/2007 12:55:16 Originally by: Heptameron ever seen privateers in 0.0?? If you could quickly run past me why we would spend billions on wardecs to shoot you in EMPIRE then go into 0.0 to effectively waste all that ISK, I'd mucho appreciate it. But some members do visit 0.0 so you might want to check our killboards before saying privateers don't go to 0.0 So in response to your question; Originally by: Heptameron ever seen privateers in 0.0?? COMPUTER SAYS YES. Now stfu. Lol. Seems the top guy in your alliance seems to love hugging Jita stations. Tonight's the night the world begins again...
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.02.27 13:10:00 - [16] Yes, another thread where PA tell everyone how really really good they are will convince them.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Spike Spiegle Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 13:13:00 - [17] Funny thread almost hept reffers to actully living on 0.0 where you actually risk assets such as POS and outposts, not sending the occasional gank squad that gets lost trying to find jita and stubbles into 0.0.
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.02.27 13:23:00 - [18] eve = pvp every thing you do that can effect other players is in essence pvp. silly razor guy i pvp useing guns and market Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Heptameron Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 13:33:00 - [19] Originally by: Lilan Kahn eve = pvp every thing you do that can effect other players is in essence pvp. silly razor guy i pvp useing guns and market oiy! and im not silly, just a little old and deranged... oh and gave up smoking last night and just a teensy bit stressed over the whole thing. ---------------------------------------------- We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 13:40:00 - [20] Originally by: Ritchler LOL, don't be so bitter, jus cause you got spanked out of querious hardcore Atleast we have somewhere to get spanked from Unlike the Jita 4-4 alt army
Naqq Federal Volunteers Office The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.02.27 14:46:00 - [21] Edited by: Naqq on 27/02/2007 14:49:26 Good thing I ain't rzr. If I were, I would have been ashamed for the unneeded smack and troll they brought to this thread. Also your chestbeating with 00 is redicilous, to assume the only real pvp challenge lies in 00 is utter stupity. With the exception of someone assuming the actual pvp challenge is massing minerals/isk for loads of capital ships
Aille Pluthrak Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 15:16:00 - [22] Originally by: Hellaciouss they will get bored, disband, looking for a place in the bigger alliance for pew pew, and be rejected because they were in a corp that was in Privateers. Digging their own grave really. I need to remember that you are in charge of all the 0.0 alliances recruitment whenever I need to look for work after I leave my current employment. Anything I write on these forums are my thoughts and do not represent my corp or alliance in any way, shape or form ---------------------- Boom goes the ship! Squish goes the pilot!
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 15:20:00 - [23] Originally by: Naqq Edited by: Naqq on 27/02/2007 14:49:26 Good thing I ain't rzr. If I were, I would have been ashamed for the unneeded smack and troll they brought to this thread. Also your chestbeating with 00 is redicilous, to assume the only real pvp challenge lies in 00 is utter stupity. With the exception of someone assuming the actual pvp challenge is massing minerals/isk for loads of capital ships Yes i agree they should be ashamed of themselves. This is a thread started by a noobish corp we are at war with. They have stuck together and got a few nice kills - congrats. Kudos for coming posting a positive thread. De-kudos for all the twarsats coming in flaming. SKUNK
Le Skunk Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 15:22:00 - [24] Originally by: Hellaciouss The problem is all the mission agents are in empire. Move more mission agents into 0.0 and no one will care about Privateers. We need to be able to hire agents into coming to our stations. Privateers is a joke really. The real motivation behind is it easy hauler and mission runner gankings. Do what I suggested and their targets will disapear, they will get bored, disband, looking for a place in the bigger alliance for pew pew, and be rejected because they were in a corp that was in Privateers. Digging their own grave really. My opinion anyway. OH NOES - I will never be able to fly with you in a big aliiance BOO HOO. Ill miss out on all the informed and interesting alliance chat that you have pertinantly demonstrated above. Please carry on mining. SKUNK
babylonstew Caldari Caldari Scouting and Intel Group Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 15:30:00 - [25] Originally by: Hellaciouss The problem is all the mission agents are in empire. Move more mission agents into 0.0 and no one will care about Privateers. We need to be able to hire agents into coming to our stations. Privateers is a joke really. The real motivation behind is it easy hauler and mission runner gankings. Do what I suggested and their targets will disapear, they will get bored, disband, looking for a place in the bigger alliance for pew pew, and be rejected because they were in a corp that was in Privateers. Digging their own grave really. My opinion anyway. dont 90% of 0.0 alliances players complain mission runners are geting risk free isk, risk/reward and all that crap? now there is a risk and its o noes, we want agents in our space now cos we get shot at and besides, maybe the members in privateers corps dont actually want to be in 0.0 alliances???? besides, can some up pretty much all this anti privateers stuff in one senteance. privateer guy> i like my play style, i find it fun joe 0.0 guy> bah, you suck, your a noob, you play the game i say you should cops otherwise you suck ------ snip please keep sigs EVE-related. Contact [email protected] if you have any further questions - Karass Sayfo Originally by: High Sierra note to self - don't ever provide ANYONE with quoteable material EVER AGAIN.
Checkmark	Posted - 2007.02.27 15:43:00 - [26] I am kinda suprised a Razor guy thinks eve is not a pvp game. but besides that got to give props to privateers and their interesting mission. there is a way to avoid them as anyone know is to go back to a npc corp. If all you want out of EVE is npc mission/mining thats where you should be. As for gank squads...show me a corp or an alliance that does not do this. Its all part of the game the other thing is tho Privateers while the do fight. They are not to hard to get away from or avoid they do need a bit more seassoning in the targeting/scrambling area and they tend not to pursue their target when it gets away from them. They make life interesting in empire and I would really like to see the majority of the whineage stop so we can also do away with counter postings like this
The Dokter 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.02.27 15:46:00 - [27] Originally by: Spike Spiegle Funny thread almost hept reffers to actully living on 0.0 where you actually risk assets such as POS and outposts, not sending the occasional gank squad that gets lost trying to find jita and stubbles into 0.0. So you are saying hidding all day in a pos is more fun and makes you a better pvper then deccing half of eve so you can hide nowhere? Oke, now I know what we do wrong we don't have poses, we don't own outposts and we don't hide, stupid me, well we will change our strategy acourding too this gem of wisdom P.S. If you don't have fun, don't take it out on other people, just ctrl-q, dear razor alliance and other trolls. "It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you."
Thoric Frosthammer The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.27 16:22:00 - [28] Originally by: The Dokter Oke, now I know what we do wrong we don't have poses, we don't own outposts and we don't hide, I think that's the point most people are making here Doktor. The difference between say, Outbreak and Privateers is that you don't hide. You pew pew in empire, you pew pew in 0.0, and if someone has even numbers you don't immediately scramble to hide in the nearest station. Privateers does, which is why most people give them no respect, despite their posturing.
The Dokter 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.02.27 16:45:00 - [29] Originally by: Thoric Frosthammer Originally by: The Dokter Oke, now I know what we do wrong we don't have poses, we don't own outposts and we don't hide, I think that's the point most people are making here Doktor. The difference between say, Outbreak and Privateers is that you don't hide. You pew pew in empire, you pew pew in 0.0, and if someone has even numbers you don't immediately scramble to hide in the nearest station. Privateers does, which is why most people give them no respect, despite their posturing. Oke, good one But I was more talking about razor people talking trash about somebody not having posses and outposts too defend. I think the majority of people in 0.0 do nothing else then hide in posses and outposts the moment anybody else the there napped neighboor comes by. And only time they come out is too get a easy gank. So people in soo called 0.0 alliances complaining about being harresed by privateers are just ........ people. In my opinion the privateers are nothing else the all the other people in eve......TARGETS "It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you."
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.02.27 17:06:00 - [30] I like the threatening in-game mails Privateers. Keep telling yourselves your good and your in it for a good fight and not just easy hauler ganks and mission runner kills or to stat pad your killboards so it makes you look 1337. I'm sure one day you will fool yourself into actually thinking it's true. Tonight's the night the world begins again...

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