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Mozat	Posted - 2003.12.19 17:53:00 - [61] Before the patch my security status was 0.4 after the patch it's now 0.1 what gives CCP. Did I miss something.
Old Hermit	Posted - 2003.12.19 18:07:00 - [62] Edited by: Old Hermit on 19/12/2003 18:08:11 Pre patch many ratings displayed rounded up numbers. So in fact you could have been just above .4 prepatch but more likely you were below it. Post patch it does not round up. So if you were .399999999, then halve it with the patch implementation, and you would be .199999995. Display would be .1. Click To Submit News
Zdenka	Posted - 2003.12.19 21:16:00 - [63] Still have problem with my 'Tutorial Agent'. I had just started his missions before the patch. Now I cannot complete the first one ( I must deliver certificates that have already been delivered ....) What can/should I do ? ----------------------------------------- the newbie who dowloaded the game the day before the patch
Falbala	Posted - 2003.12.20 11:52:00 - [64] Before your fix I had one time reward for 2 original ammo BP. Since your fix my time rewards are like 1900 to 5000 isk. This has been "slightly" toned down indeed. Please pay more attention to the newbies in the future fixes and patches.
Papa Smurf	Posted - 2003.12.20 12:01:00 - [65] Quote: Still have problem with my 'Tutorial Agent'. I had just started his missions before the patch. Now I cannot complete the first one ( I must deliver certificates that have already been delivered ....) What can/should I do ? ----------------------------------------- the newbie who dowloaded the game the day before the patch File a petition, asking them to clear your tutorial mission. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Papa Smurf	Posted - 2003.12.20 12:03:00 - [66] Quote: Before your fix I had one time reward for 2 original ammo BP. Since your fix my time rewards are like 1900 to 5000 isk. This has been "slightly" toned down indeed. Please pay more attention to the newbies in the future fixes and patches. The 2 original ammo BP's were a bug, not a tuning issue. The hotfix to that bug tuned things down too far, yes, but you can't fairly compare the BP rewards to the lousy ISK rewards.
Galea Wildfang	Posted - 2003.12.20 17:53:00 - [67] Quote: - All players who lost standing since the Castor patch have been reimbursed with the standing they lost. Players who gained standing or have the same amount of standing are unaffected by this change. I got to my level 3 agents after patch and checked for missions ('foundation stone needed' in both cases) .. as they where leading far of the track I didn't accept them and rather closed the windows. 24h+ later ... 2003.12.18 03:55:00 I can no longer await your response to my offer. I am displeased by your indecisiveness. I got this message 11 times from one, 14 times from the other agent, dragging my standing with them down as my factions. I didn't get reimbursed yet (and I didn't do anything else as of now with them). 'Life on Earth might be expensive, but it does include an anual free trip around the sun'
Ruffio Sepico	Posted - 2003.12.21 06:39:00 - [68] My biggest beef with agent missions atm, is time bonus missions. Like oh please jump 10 jumps within 20 mins and deliver this and that.. Its a tease to offer time bonus's when its not realistic to make it within the time outlined. The past 30 hours or so in EVE I just focused on missions and ended up with like 2-3k Polytextiles as bonus rewards and some anitibiotics, but thats all, had one important mission that rasied my standings and thats it. Im not in favour of recieve uber stuff each every mission, but would be fun to just recieve something good at least once in a while that give some push to carry on doing the missions. Recently all the kill missions turns out to a lagfeast (at least since last night), I dont know why, but all grind to a halt, most annoying. Works fine kill rats in the belts though... Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk HiD Kills: http://eve.hidden-agenda.co.uk/kill_list.php
Papa Smurf	Posted - 2003.12.21 13:19:00 - [69] Quote: Quote: - All players who lost standing since the Castor patch have been reimbursed with the standing they lost. Players who gained standing or have the same amount of standing are unaffected by this change. I got to my level 3 agents after patch and checked for missions ('foundation stone needed' in both cases) .. as they where leading far of the track I didn't accept them and rather closed the windows. 24h+ later ... 2003.12.18 03:55:00 I can no longer await your response to my offer. I am displeased by your indecisiveness. I got this message 11 times from one, 14 times from the other agent, dragging my standing with them down as my factions. I didn't get reimbursed yet (and I didn't do anything else as of now with them). You will be reimbursed, I'm quite certain of that. Just have to organize it with Jorundur. Some reimbursement has been done, but I've just not been able to get it all done yet. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Papa Smurf	Posted - 2003.12.21 13:22:00 - [70] Quote: My biggest beef with agent missions atm, is time bonus missions. Like oh please jump 10 jumps within 20 mins and deliver this and that.. Its a tease to offer time bonus's when its not realistic to make it within the time outlined. The past 30 hours or so in EVE I just focused on missions and ended up with like 2-3k Polytextiles as bonus rewards and some anitibiotics, but thats all, had one important mission that rasied my standings and thats it. Im not in favour of recieve uber stuff each every mission, but would be fun to just recieve something good at least once in a while that give some push to carry on doing the missions. Recently all the kill missions turns out to a lagfeast (at least since last night), I dont know why, but all grind to a halt, most annoying. Works fine kill rats in the belts though... Zrakor's fixed the time bonus issue as far as I'm aware of. There'll be better bonus awards soon again on TQ. Just still suffering from backlash from the great agent BP giveaway...
Ruffio Sepico	Posted - 2003.12.21 20:55:00 - [71] Anyone else doing missions for SOE and got any skills at all? or anything better than polytextiles and antibiotics as rewards? Before the patch I did Concorde and SOE missions primary, Concorde is now not an option anymore, but seeing SOE still work I hope there isnt any beef with them as still doing missions for them as its there I got my lvl 3 agents. Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk HiD Kills: http://eve.hidden-agenda.co.uk/kill_list.php
Annelia	Posted - 2003.12.22 02:13:00 - [72] I've been working for Six Kin Development and have a lvl 3 agent rating 16, effective rating 32. After castor was applied I got all sorts component drops from her. However since the first major bugfix I have had nothing but synthetic oil and construction blocks. The lvl 2 agent that works in the same station has provided me with a couple of components, but in the last 24 hours he has started giving bonuses of synthetic oil and construction blocks only. I've not had a wiff of a skill or implants either. Is this normal? Rating with the corp is over 4, any my rating with the lvl 3 agent is over 6.
Ruffio Sepico	Posted - 2003.12.22 07:04:00 - [73] Edited by: Ruffio Sepico on 22/12/2003 07:16:08 How is it expected of us to keep up with the weekly faction hit of 5%???? I cant believe this, I worked my butt off doing agent missions for days now, all the available time I got for EVE. Standings with corps snails up, I had only ONE important mission that increased my faction standing. And that was for only ONE faction and its allies only. So to try maintain a good term with all the factions, you need more of these "important" missions in several factions. Talk about being.... I dont have words frankly :( And it doesnt seem doing agent missions have any impact on your sec rating as it used to before the patch either, as the faction's got Concorde as 0.0... this bites. Killing rats is a no go to get standings up, doing agent missions is a incredible time sink. About every aspect of doing things in this game is being stripped away bit for bit. I want fun with EVE back, EVE isnt fun anylonger :( far from it. This was about the last straw..... its not worth spend time on this game in the state it is now. Sigh :( Maybe should invest in some other game for xmas holidays because this is just ever-growing frustration piling up... Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk HiD Kills: http://eve.hidden-agenda.co.uk/kill_list.php
Fargas	Posted - 2003.12.22 07:08:00 - [74] I was just hit with the 5% reduction-hammer. Boy was I hit. I've begun doing missions for a new corp, and new faction for me. Core Complexion Inc to be exact. Before 5% reduction: 0.19976 After 5% reduction: 0.16 In my calculator, the new standing after -5% should be 0.189772 but it stands 0.16. Is the 0.16 value correct? Can you let me in on the mathematical formula if that's the case?
Zrakor	Posted - 2003.12.22 12:22:00 - [75] Quote: Zrakor's fixed the time bonus issue as far as I'm aware of. There'll be better bonus awards soon again on TQ. Just still suffering from backlash from the great agent BP giveaway... I beefed up the time limit on the bonuses. But I think the problem is mainly that the time bonus does not neccessarily reflect the number of jumps. Due to the random nature of the jump-count, that is something which needs to be looked at.
Ralimenua	Posted - 2003.12.22 12:37:00 - [76] Quote: I beefed up the time limit on the bonuses. But I think the problem is mainly that the time bonus does not neccessarily reflect the number of jumps. Due to the random nature of the jump-count, that is something which needs to be looked at. Is the jump-path random, too? My agents from Umamon/Lonetrek seem to have an obsessive fixation with Aikantoh, which is on the other side of a 110AU jump through skankpit Liukikka. Is there any chance you can detail the mechanics of standing loss a bit more fully, so we understand the minimum we need to do to prevent it... like: - When does the 'weekly 5% decay' happen? - Does it apply equivalently to agent, corp. and faction standings? - Does a faction know that you've been doing non-important missions for its corps, or must you do Important ones to save your already diminished ratings? Thanks! --------------=o0O+O0o=-------------- Grand Vizier and General Factotum Hazara Khan's Haphazard Bazaar The Finest Camels in all EVE! O0o=------------------+------------------=o0O
Zrakor	Posted - 2003.12.22 13:00:00 - [77] Quote: Is the jump-path random, too? My agents from Umamon/Lonetrek seem to have an obsessive fixation with Aikantoh, which is on the other side of a 110AU jump through skankpit Liukikka. It's not completely random, but fairly random. There are certain criterias that the system uses to detirmine the destination location, but within those criterias there is a random factor. The size of the agents constellation and neighboring constellations (and where the agents constellation is located) can greatly affect the destination location. And the security status sometimes affects it as well, but there is no "guarantee" that your agent won't send you through low secure space. So in theory, some agents are simply better than others due to their location in the Eve universe, which isn't a bad thing.
Harisdrop	Posted - 2003.12.22 14:55:00 - [78] What is the impact of negotiation skill on the rewards? is it on money only? Is it applied to number of items also? -------------------------- Garsh ma it soo cool killing people in there space thingies
Vecoz	Posted - 2003.12.22 17:26:00 - [79] After the standing decay hit today, I cannot access my lvl 3 Research agent anymore. I'm wondering was this intentional on ccp's part. Is it a -5% decay on every type of standing (Factional, Corp, and personal)? This lvl 3 agent was my pre-patch lvl 3 agent. Now only a week after patch, I can't use him anymore? Seems all of my work has gone to waste. Also if I can't use his research services anymore, will going to a new agent reset all of my previously earned Research Points? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Now I know how those people who got the big standing loss feel. Oh well.
Ooke	Posted - 2003.12.22 17:33:00 - [80] work for any other agent in that corp you can, your should be able to get it high enough in a few missions. I get between 0.1% and 8% corp increase depending on the mission... All my positive ratings (corp/faction) are still higher than before the patch... I'm probably going to move out of Lonetrek if I can, my agents have a fixation with getting me killed (again) in Aunenen, doesn't seem to matter which agent/system either... Ooke: May Contain Nuts
Vecoz	Posted - 2003.12.22 17:42:00 - [81] Edited by: Vecoz on 22/12/2003 17:44:20 Just to clarify.. my corp standing with this lvl 3 r&d agent is like 3.7 yesterday.. today it's 3.4 or 3.5 But the big hit I took was that my agent's standing towards me went down... and now I can't use him. I thought ccp said that all of your old lvl 3 agents you can keep with castor. I'm just wondering if that's the case? Or I was overlooked or that is the case for only a few days then yu're on your own to keep that agent. It's kinda hard to keep your lvl 3 agent's personal standing up when you only do a few missins for him a week and it's a 5% hit every week. BTW, my lvl 3 agent needs corp,personal standing of 4.8 to use him... it was 4.9 something yesterday, and now it's 4.6 how can you increase the standings if you can't use him?
Tbone	Posted - 2003.12.22 17:49:00 - [82] can anyone answer me what agents give out teh skills, i have been doing a lvl 2 admin for lai dai. done over 50 missions now and got nothing but crap, lai dai has a RaD dept but for some reason i cant get a skill, please tell me if i am doing the wrong agent or something. and i hate missions so this is really spoiling the game for me. ----------------------------------------------- Unholy Killboard
Kel Tirash	Posted - 2003.12.22 18:48:00 - [83] Afaik all agents (except R&D) give out research skills. But they are quiate rare, espacialy with lvl 2 agents. ---------------------------------------------- WTT: bad spelling for missing leters ;o)
Daimon Cyric	Posted - 2003.12.23 00:34:00 - [84] I've gotten 4 Molecular Engineering and 1 Quantum Physics from Level 3 Agents. They are out there, but I wouldn't expect them until Level 3. My big beef is the standing loss for ignoring a mission. I'm not about to accept something that will get me killed (which even in a Cruiser Lvl 2 missions can do), and declining hits you harder still. Why can't the missions just change after an hour like they used to? I only have one Level 3 agent left, and I'm about to lose him as he just gave me a kill mission. Castor is killing me, as I was a full-time agent flyer, mostly with Amarr and CONCORD. Give us back CONCORD and allow a non-penalty decline option to cycle agent missions and I'll be happy, though I'd like to be able to raise my empire faction standing again. I've been flying Level 3 missions and I hadn't moved from 2.0 to Amarr. Are the specific corps for Empire faction now and if so, which ones?
Pinkoir	Posted - 2003.12.23 01:57:00 - [85] Quote: Are the specific corps for Empire faction now and if so, which ones? The way to get Faction standing now is to complete an "Important" mission. These missions (which are all mining as far as I have seen) provide a big bump to corp stanging and a small bump to Faction standing...nothing else that agents do give you faction love. Since Castor my Main racial standing has improved by a full point so it's just a case of persistence...also try to find a station with a lot of agents..that will give you more options on missions to run. Finally if you are having trouble with the Lv3 kill missions (like the EMmisary one or the 2x35k one) get somebody to help you out. The is no penalty for having somebody else kill the rats. -Pinkoir
Smolder009	Posted - 2003.12.23 03:42:00 - [86] Quote: Zrakor At 22:05 I did an Agent NPC Kill mission and the NPC's failed to drop the item I was supposed to bring back to my agent. The misson was called "Damsel in distress", I had to kill Krull and 2 henchmen in Luminaire for my lvl 2 Roden agent in Aporulie and bring back 1 unit of The Damsel, I got 10 Thunderbolts, 100 A-M M Ammo and 10 Defender missiles instead. Admit it, Drahcir, you kept the Damsel for your own nefarious purposes, and now you're trying to Fast Talk your way out of the faction hit. That Roden agent should be fired for trusting the like of you with such a mission! What have you done with her, you despoiler of women?! S009. --- Required reading for all Eve players: Stephen R. Donaldson's Gap Cycle. The Gap Cycle is to SF as Lord of the Rings is to Fantasy. Believe it.
PhD Drax	Posted - 2003.12.23 10:32:00 - [87] Same problem, losing state faction even when doing missions. I got a skill book and even a Small Hybrid ammo bp misson, but no "Important" missions. So will I lose my research agent due to the fact that I cant get any "Important" missions? And I havn't failed one yet, not even the 20k rat stoped me and my Merlin.
Talon ferez	Posted - 2003.12.23 11:31:00 - [88] I have the same problem, i've never passed on a mission and never failed one and yet my rating is still going down. Suks dont it
Steven Gould	Posted - 2003.12.23 17:04:00 - [89] Incredible, my agent just got polite, he must be replaced by a clone without me noticing :) Quote: Nice to see you again Steven Gould. What brings you back? Want another mission or are you just her to say hello? Disgusting this is, I'm truly appalled, what quality are those clones these days? :) Quote: It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, It is by the beans of java that thoughts aquire speed, the hands aquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.12.23 17:23:00 - [90] "Incredible, my agent just got polite, he must be replaced by a clone without me noticing :)" Agents change their tone as their personal standing with you grows, iirc. ;s

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