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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2016.06.17 21:05:51 -
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Can someone explain to me why that seems like a good idea to some? Is there any scenario where that would actually be beneficial?
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Jonathan Wolf
State War Academy
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2016.06.17 21:36:55 -
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Where did you ever hear about "EVE 2" and why would CCP ever even contemplate that? Perhaps the single most critical aspect of EVE are the players, and dividing people between "EVE 1" and "EVE 2" would be a fool's errand. Worse, if they instead took away "EVE 1" and destroying 13 years of events and history would cause a lot (most?) of the old guard to quit. |
Marsha Mallow
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:36:06 -
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I don't even understand Eve so get in line
Knowing they have more SP than I do isnGÇÖt going to stop me from taking the fight if I was going to take it.
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Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
2268
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Posted - 2016.06.17 22:41:00 -
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It's not a good idea. I could list 156 reasons why.
Anybody who thinks it is should stop drinking paint.
Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. Truth be told, I've been pretty unlucky.
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
303
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Posted - 2016.06.18 00:07:16 -
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The reason why some people ask for this, is because they believe that somehow a full reset would give them a chance at becoming the "best" at EvE. The problem is, that EvE does not have a specified end-goal you can grind or get a head-start on.
Anyway, we already have an EvE 2.0 or higher. The engine and gameplay has been revised in such a drastic manner, that one can hardly argue that the initial EvE released in 2003 is even close to what we have today. |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
249
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Posted - 2016.06.18 00:27:48 -
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Maekchu wrote:The reason why some people ask for this, is because they believe that somehow a full reset would give them a chance at becoming the "best" at EvE. The problem is, that EvE does not have a specified end-goal you can grind or get a head-start on.
Anyway, we already have an EvE 2.0 or higher. The engine and gameplay has been revised in such a drastic manner, that one can hardly argue that the initial EvE released in 2003 is even close to what we have today.
Yeah, that's the same way I think about it. Weirdly enough the latest place I saw this actually wasn't GD here, it was GD over on the Dust 514 Forums.
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Dildus Maximus
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2016.06.18 00:28:54 -
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EVE 2.0?
What you need is not here, its on microsoft site and the latest version is 2016. |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
737
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Posted - 2016.06.18 01:42:07 -
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People asking for EVE 2.0 believe that if there was a hard reset, where everyone started from scratch again, somehow that would make it easier for them to *win*.
What they completely fail to appreciate is that all the ISK and SP in New Eden doesn't count for squat without a few trusted friends around.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
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Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
280
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Posted - 2016.06.18 02:25:05 -
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It's more than a bit disingenuous to claim 13-years worth of SP, ISK and organization is insignificant, and with just a few good friends (presumably found in this more-than-simple environment for social-izing) you're as well off as the most bitterest of bittervets. Au contraire, mon ami. I'd also bet the ones who make such assertions are also the ones who make finding friends in this massive open-air jungle such a SIMPLE thing to do.
The idea of having a ghost of a chance against those who have more than a decade's worth of running headstart isn't really something one should denigrate or dismiss. That it isn't something likely to happen in EVE is one of those cold, hard facts of life people really need to understand in order to understand the terrain.
The point is, 13-years from now, any noob will look like a 13-year bittervet. All you gotta do is keep swingin'. You'll get there. Just bear in mind, by then there'll be more than a few 26-year bittervets. That's the nature of clocks, and calendars... Take heart in the knowledge their teeth will be falling out, to match their hair that fell out ten years before, and they'll be swingin' a mean cane IRL.
By the way; your calendar's days are numbered! But, there is no EVE 2. Sowwy. 
If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
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hellyeaz
Systems High Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
20
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Posted - 2016.06.18 06:56:09 -
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Wait what?
So do these carebears want EvE 2 reset to 2004 or do they want to keep all the nerfs, because i dont really think they want EvE 2004.
Keep this crap up and soon we will be able to say: "EvE WAS hard"
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Mr Duffo
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
181
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Posted - 2016.06.18 08:00:14 -
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How I think Eve 2 would be beneficial is for no legacy code holding back like it has been doing for years now and good opportunity to add longer beard. But me still likey what we have now.
Skegg¦˝ld, Skálm¦˝ld, Skildir ro Klofnir!
Never forget! #OICXmassacre2014
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
12403
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Posted - 2016.06.18 09:58:04 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote:Maekchu wrote:The reason why some people ask for this, is because they believe that somehow a full reset would give them a chance at becoming the "best" at EvE. The problem is, that EvE does not have a specified end-goal you can grind or get a head-start on.
Anyway, we already have an EvE 2.0 or higher. The engine and gameplay has been revised in such a drastic manner, that one can hardly argue that the initial EvE released in 2003 is even close to what we have today. Yeah, that's the same way I think about it. Weirdly enough the latest place I saw this actually wasn't GD here, it was GD over on the Dust 514 Forums.
Luckily that **** has been shut right down
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Chewytowel Haklar
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
186
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Posted - 2016.06.18 13:19:07 -
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In EVE 2.0 there is no high sec/lo sec. All space is lawless space! There are no mission hubs, no PVE at all, no security guards protecting carebears, not even invulvnerable trade hubs. Every trade hub has to be built by players and can be attacked, every single thing in the game is built from the wrecks of other players.
In EVE 2.0 the only rat left to grind is you.  |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
249
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Posted - 2016.06.18 13:35:44 -
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Bumblefck wrote:MidnightWyvern wrote:Maekchu wrote:The reason why some people ask for this, is because they believe that somehow a full reset would give them a chance at becoming the "best" at EvE. The problem is, that EvE does not have a specified end-goal you can grind or get a head-start on.
Anyway, we already have an EvE 2.0 or higher. The engine and gameplay has been revised in such a drastic manner, that one can hardly argue that the initial EvE released in 2003 is even close to what we have today. Yeah, that's the same way I think about it. Weirdly enough the latest place I saw this actually wasn't GD here, it was GD over on the Dust 514 Forums. Luckily that **** has been shut right down
Okay, you seriously feel it necessary to continue shitting on a game we loved? I'm going to assume you're one of those that's still bitter about it not being on PC.
Rattati Senpai noticed us! See you in the next FPS!
Alts: Saray Wyvern, Mobius Wyvern (Dust 514)
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Nalia White
Tencus
188
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Posted - 2016.06.18 13:58:33 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote:Bumblefck wrote:MidnightWyvern wrote:Maekchu wrote:The reason why some people ask for this, is because they believe that somehow a full reset would give them a chance at becoming the "best" at EvE. The problem is, that EvE does not have a specified end-goal you can grind or get a head-start on.
Anyway, we already have an EvE 2.0 or higher. The engine and gameplay has been revised in such a drastic manner, that one can hardly argue that the initial EvE released in 2003 is even close to what we have today. Yeah, that's the same way I think about it. Weirdly enough the latest place I saw this actually wasn't GD here, it was GD over on the Dust 514 Forums. Luckily that **** has been shut right down Okay, you seriously feel it necessary to continue shitting on a game we loved? I'm going to assume you're one of those that's still bitter about it not being on PC.
Ignore him. One of eve's many forum trolls. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
900
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Posted - 2016.06.18 15:05:30 -
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Mr Duffo wrote:How I think Eve 2 would be beneficial is for no legacy code holding back like it has been doing for years now and good opportunity to add longer beard. But me still likey what we have now.
No legacy code to hold you back, instead we have all new bugs and code to hold us back for the future.
"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves."
The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
249
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Posted - 2016.06.18 15:09:03 -
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Falin Whalen wrote:Mr Duffo wrote:How I think Eve 2 would be beneficial is for no legacy code holding back like it has been doing for years now and good opportunity to add longer beard. But me still likey what we have now. No legacy code to hold you back, instead we have all new bugs and code to hold us back for the future.
You forget that bugs don't exist anymore thanks to all modern day software being perfect.
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Verlyn
Teutate raiders
DARKNESS.
58
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Posted - 2016.06.18 17:18:40 -
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Just where in the seven hells are all these stupid ideas coming from really ?
Please restore my faith in humanity ... |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
16398
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Posted - 2016.06.18 17:43:27 -
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Verlyn wrote:Just where in the seven hells are all these stupid ideas coming from really ?
Please restore my faith in humanity ...
Spend any amount of time reading f&i and you will end up with a grab bag.
My personal favorite one was along the lins of
"other players are better at eve than i am, and theyre co operating,
ccp this isnt fair,
please adress this immediatly or ill unsub my eleventy twelve accounts ktnxbby"
Ihavent seen "eve 2" tabled in a while but its definitlybeen asked for a lot.
Always laughed at of corse and rightly so.
Better the Devil you know.
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Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
103
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Posted - 2016.06.18 17:52:20 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:In EVE 2.0 there is no high sec/lo sec. All space is lawless space! There are no mission hubs, no PVE at all, no security guards protecting carebears, not even invulvnerable trade hubs. Every trade hub has to be built by players and can be attacked, every single thing in the game is built from the wrecks of other players. In EVE 2.0 the only rat left to grind is you. Then again I suppose you would still need to be able to build things via industry and mining... oh hell did I really just say that.
What would goons do all day in such a game? Station spin? |
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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
250
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Posted - 2016.06.18 21:19:57 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Verlyn wrote:Just where in the seven hells are all these stupid ideas coming from really ?
Please restore my faith in humanity ... Spend any amount of time reading f&i and you will end up with a grab bag. My personal favorite one was along the lins of "other players are better at eve than i am, and theyre co operating, ccp this isnt fair, please adress this immediatly or ill unsub my eleventy twelve accounts ktnxbby" Ihavent seen "eve 2" tabled in a while but its definitlybeen asked for a lot. Always laughed at of corse and rightly so.
I remember that thread!
I've never really understood the concept of "I can never catch up", by the way. When I first got into the game there were people who had been playing for 5 years and had more skill points than I even knew what to do with. I just accepted that as part of the game and it never really mattered.
Only 7-8 months into the game I managed to tackle a Loki and hold it down while tanking it's damage until blues could show up to take him out. I think I was in a shitfit Navy Omen.
People need to drop the inferiority complex and just play for their own enjoyment.
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TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
72
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Posted - 2016.06.18 21:56:33 -
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"Eve 2" pretty well happens every month or so, what with this release or that expansion. Sometimes it affects what i do, most times it doesn't. A bunch of it is little things, like icons, graphics, animations and the *%$#(*&) hangar videos.
Hangar Videos: CCP/USAWallStreet Love Child
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Jenquilla Viliana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.06.18 23:54:01 -
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MidnightWyvern wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Verlyn wrote:Just where in the seven hells are all these stupid ideas coming from really ?
Please restore my faith in humanity ... Spend any amount of time reading f&i and you will end up with a grab bag. My personal favorite one was along the lins of "other players are better at eve than i am, and theyre co operating, ccp this isnt fair, please adress this immediatly or ill unsub my eleventy twelve accounts ktnxbby" Ihavent seen "eve 2" tabled in a while but its definitlybeen asked for a lot. Always laughed at of corse and rightly so. I remember that thread! I've never really understood the concept of "I can never catch up", by the way. When I first got into the game there were people who had been playing for 5 years and had more skill points than I even knew what to do with. I just accepted that as part of the game and it never really mattered. Only 7-8 months into the game I managed to tackle a Loki and hold it down while tanking it's damage until blues could show up to take him out. I think I was in a shitfit Navy Omen. People need to drop the inferiority complex and just play for their own enjoyment.
The whole "I can never catch up" thing is foreign to a game like EvE anyway. The whole point of the EvE universe is that it supposedly has been there for much longer than when you first were born into it, and therefore it's reasonable to expect a whole universe of people and cultures of any amount of experience and history when you're a noob. Eventually, you stop being a noob, but you should never "catch up" to those who came before you, just as the noobs that start when you're an 8 year bittervet will never catch up to you.
The thing that actually makes New Eden a fantastic experience is the richness of such diversity. My Dust alt Alena Asakura is on record as saying the same thing about Dust. It was a shame that it was ever discontinued, and I still believe this will haunt CCP for some time, unless and until it's ported in some form into Nova and then back onto PS4.
The idea of a "reset" of any form in any of the games CCP develops is ludicrous. |
Vilhelm Shaddar
Galactic Imperium
0
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Posted - 2016.06.19 01:29:53 -
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Jenquilla Viliana wrote:The idea of a "reset" of any form in any of the games CCP develops is ludicrous.
Yeah, CCP would NEVER decide to wipe out all progress from all players of one of their games, and then make them start anew on a PC instead of a PS3.... wait....
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MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
250
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Posted - 2016.06.19 01:36:57 -
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Vilhelm Shaddar wrote:Jenquilla Viliana wrote:The idea of a "reset" of any form in any of the games CCP develops is ludicrous. Yeah, CCP would NEVER decide to wipe out all progress from all players of one of their games, and then make them start anew on a PC instead of a PS3.... wait....
Yeah, that's the one flaw in that statement. They'll almost certainly never reset EVE, but to say they've never done so for any of their games is now inaccurate.
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Chewytowel Haklar
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
187
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Posted - 2016.06.19 01:59:28 -
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Roenok Baalnorn wrote:Chewytowel Haklar wrote:In EVE 2.0 there is no high sec/lo sec. All space is lawless space! There are no mission hubs, no PVE at all, no security guards protecting carebears, not even invulvnerable trade hubs. Every trade hub has to be built by players and can be attacked, every single thing in the game is built from the wrecks of other players. In EVE 2.0 the only rat left to grind is you. Then again I suppose you would still need to be able to build things via industry and mining... oh hell did I really just say that. What would goons do all day in such a game? Station spin?
I did say there are no safe unattackable stations right? |
MidnightWyvern
Night Theifs
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
250
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Posted - 2016.06.19 02:49:37 -
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Chewytowel Haklar wrote:Roenok Baalnorn wrote:Chewytowel Haklar wrote:In EVE 2.0 there is no high sec/lo sec. All space is lawless space! There are no mission hubs, no PVE at all, no security guards protecting carebears, not even invulvnerable trade hubs. Every trade hub has to be built by players and can be attacked, every single thing in the game is built from the wrecks of other players. In EVE 2.0 the only rat left to grind is you. Then again I suppose you would still need to be able to build things via industry and mining... oh hell did I really just say that. What would goons do all day in such a game? Station spin? I did say there are no safe unattackable stations right?
Oh, even better!
Some people have been talking about the idea of Project Nova players being able to raid into ALL space stations to capture ships docked inside even when the player who owns them isn't online. Obviously we've been telling them that's crazy, but hey, in EVE 2 anything goes!
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Djsaeu
Mineral Void LLC
Voice of the Void
16
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Posted - 2016.06.20 04:42:19 -
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AVAST!! Hang the scallywags from the nearest yardarm!! Or better yet, pod the buggers. Let the universe be the universe, man-up and get your head out your backside. EVE is a living, growing thing, that has just started to form into something even greater that it is, with unlimited potential.
If you want to find something that has a ending then your not going to find it here.
Now, you know I am going to say this.
" TRUST IN THE RUST "
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Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
1178
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Posted - 2016.06.20 09:17:10 -
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startet a thread with a wild unfunded theory, then asking people for opinions about it.
wtf is wrong with you? |
Djsaeu
Mineral Void LLC
Voice of the Void
16
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Posted - 2016.06.20 13:28:41 -
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A wild unfunded theory and asked for opinions about it.
You got what you asked for, a wild unfunded answer. Nothing wrong with me, are you sure you asked the right question? |
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