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Pandora Carrollon
Kingsman Tailors
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Posted - 2016.06.22 14:44:22 -
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You guys are aware that POS's are still viable and operating... as well as Citadels being the first of many planned structures? They aren't going to pull the older stuff until all the newer stuff is operating properly and balanced properly (which is isn't, and they know it.)
You guys also should be aware that the intent is to force players that own these fixtures to actively defend them, right? They also want to generate large conflicts in what would normally be fairly placid areas by having competing structures in those areas.
If you actually pay attention to the DEV posts and read the subtexts of their comments you will learn what they are doing and why fairly easy. Their primary comments are subject to being 'true to intent' at that very moment. One week later it could be completely wrong, but the subtext rarely changes.
Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game
-- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2016.06.22 15:03:25 -
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This thread boils down to the fact that CCP screwed up a long time ago and allowed really powerful, really useful and totally autonomous (defense wise) POSes to exist, especially in high sec. Now they are fixing that by (slowly) replacing them with structures that you have to actively defend (with real people no less) and that don't totally secure players industrial activities like the old POSes do.
It's yet another example of something I've noticed more than a few times in my EVE life: "when you (CCP) give people stuff that is too good, too easy, too useful, you create a firestorm of spergy angst from some people when you take it away, because they feel entitled to it now, since it was you who gave it to them". It's really no different than what was displayed in this thread where people were complaining about the NPC capitals that now show up in null sec, since they have this nasty habit of killing the too easy .afk ratting boats some people have come to rely on for income.
Eventually, people will adjust to the new reality where things aren't handed to them like it was in the past (yes, POS defense fall into this catagory, automated "Death Star" defenses are BAD for a game like this). But it would really really really be nice if CCP would learn to not hand out over-powered bullcrap that creates feelings of entitlement in the 1st place. |
Dartgnan
Black Wormholes of Apocrypha TOGETHER WE STAND
1
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Posted - 2016.06.22 15:12:11 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Now they are fixing that by (slowly) replacing them with structures that you have to actively defend (with real people no less)
Because most of the playerbase has nothing else to do in life but stay and babysit bitships and bitstructures :) |
Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2016.06.22 15:18:43 -
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Dartgnan wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Now they are fixing that by (slowly) replacing them with structures that you have to actively defend (with real people no less) Because most of the playerbase has nothing else to do in life but stay and babysit bitships and bitstructures :) If you can't be bothered to pull together a defense fleet with over a week's notice AT A TIME YOU GOT TO SPECIFY - you don't deserve to save your structure. |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14210
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Posted - 2016.06.22 15:23:20 -
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Dartgnan wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Now they are fixing that by (slowly) replacing them with structures that you have to actively defend (with real people no less) Because most of the playerbase has nothing else to do in life but stay and babysit bitships and bitstructures :)
It's ironic, I post about people feeling like they are entitled to something, and a couple minutes later someone posts proving my point.
Thanks.
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14210
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Posted - 2016.06.22 15:27:54 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Dartgnan wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Now they are fixing that by (slowly) replacing them with structures that you have to actively defend (with real people no less) Because most of the playerbase has nothing else to do in life but stay and babysit bitships and bitstructures :) If you can't be bothered to pull together a defense fleet with over a week's notice AT A TIME YOU GOT TO SPECIFY - you don't deserve to save your structure.
Dirty damn alt, expecting people in high sec (the part of space with the most characters in it) to actually get to know other human beings for the purposes of mutual defense of multi-billion isk structures... WTF is wrong with you sir and/or madam? Don't you know that CCP is obligated to do all the hard work of playing a video game for them (especially since that's what they have been doing thus far with POSes that take care of themselves while they slept) rather than expecting them to *gasp* actually figure things out?
Off the the re-education camp with you! |
bardghost Isu
Unity of Suns Warped Intentions
26
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Posted - 2016.06.22 15:44:38 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Dartgnan wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Now they are fixing that by (slowly) replacing them with structures that you have to actively defend (with real people no less) Because most of the playerbase has nothing else to do in life but stay and babysit bitships and bitstructures :) If you can't be bothered to pull together a defense fleet with over a week's notice AT A TIME YOU GOT TO SPECIFY - you don't deserve to save your structure. Dirty damn alt, expecting people in high sec (the part of space with the most characters in it) to actually get to know other human beings for the purposes of mutual defense of multi-billion isk structures... WTF is wrong with you sir and/or madam? Don't you know that CCP is obligated to do all the hard work of playing a video game for them (especially since that's what they have been doing thus far with POSes that take care of themselves while they slept) rather than expecting them to *gasp* actually figure things out? Off the the re-education camp with you!
Oh, I'm sorry that High-sec isn't for you to play in.
I preferred it up there. Constant war-decs were crap but heh, We were always able to pull together about 20 guys who all had different play-styles and time-zones to defend against 40 T3 cruisers that belong to people that have nothing better to do than spend 50+ mil on a war-dec and then sit in a trade hub everyday picking off the odd person.. Not every fricking person plays this game for the PvP aspect, I'll accept its part of it and I do join in if needed, However not everyone wants to play that way.
Hey because something isn't null-sec and isn't PvP must mean that a bunch of no-life idiots must be the ones doing it.. That seems to be the attitude of a lot of people now and its really beginning to **** me off. I've even heard people questioning if CCP take the same stance because all the attention goes to 0.0. and theres never really concern for any of the rest of the playerbase.
There's No Kill Like Overkill !
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Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2016.06.22 15:53:32 -
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bardghost Isu wrote: I preferred it up there. Constant war-decs were crap but heh, We were always able to pull together about 20 guys who all had different play-styles and time-zones to defend against 40 T3 cruisers that belong to people that have nothing better to do than spend 50+ mil on a war-dec and then sit in a trade hub everyday picking off the odd person.. Not every fricking person plays this game for the PvP aspect, I'll accept its part of it and I do join in if needed, However not everyone wants to play that way.
Hey because something isn't null-sec and isn't PvP must mean that a bunch of no-life idiots must be the ones doing it.. That seems to be the attitude of a lot of people now and its really beginning to **** me off. I've even heard people questioning if CCP take the same stance because all the attention goes to 0.0. and theres never really concern for any of the rest of the playerbase. So stop flying to the trade hub for a week - how is that a threat to your Citadel?
Also what purpose does your Citadel even serve if you have 20 people who go do their own thing and never use it?
This whiny and overly defensive attitude, coupled with frankly disturbing amounts of rage/anger directed towards people who barely even acknowledge your existence at all.... This is why everyone treats you like a no-life idiot. |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14214
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Posted - 2016.06.22 15:58:38 -
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bardghost Isu wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Dartgnan wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Now they are fixing that by (slowly) replacing them with structures that you have to actively defend (with real people no less) Because most of the playerbase has nothing else to do in life but stay and babysit bitships and bitstructures :) If you can't be bothered to pull together a defense fleet with over a week's notice AT A TIME YOU GOT TO SPECIFY - you don't deserve to save your structure. Dirty damn alt, expecting people in high sec (the part of space with the most characters in it) to actually get to know other human beings for the purposes of mutual defense of multi-billion isk structures... WTF is wrong with you sir and/or madam? Don't you know that CCP is obligated to do all the hard work of playing a video game for them (especially since that's what they have been doing thus far with POSes that take care of themselves while they slept) rather than expecting them to *gasp* actually figure things out? Off the the re-education camp with you! Oh, I'm sorry that High-sec isn't for you to play in. I preferred it up there. Constant war-decs were crap but heh, We were always able to pull together about 20 guys who all had different play-styles and time-zones to defend against 40 T3 cruisers that belong to people that have nothing better to do than spend 50+ mil on a war-dec and then sit in a trade hub everyday picking off the odd person.. Not every fricking person plays this game for the PvP aspect, I'll accept its part of it and I do join in if needed, However not everyone wants to play that way. Hey because something isn't null-sec and isn't PvP must mean that a bunch of no-life idiots must be the ones doing it.. That seems to be the attitude of a lot of people now and its really beginning to **** me off. I've even heard people questioning if CCP take the same stance because all the attention goes to 0.0. and theres never really concern for any of the rest of the playerbase.
Why does this "you must want to PVP me" nonsense always come up?
Let me set you straight, it you aren't a Guristas Pirate or a member of the Angel Cartel, (or a real player screwing around nin my ratting system), I don't want to shoot you. I don't care what group you join, where or how you play.
Simply saying that getting mad (about the fact that an MMO MIGHT require some cooperation between actual people to keep multi-billion) is pretty damn dumb, but par for the course when it comes to high sec people.
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bardghost Isu
Unity of Suns Warped Intentions
26
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Posted - 2016.06.22 16:09:29 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:bardghost Isu wrote:
Oh, I'm sorry that High-sec isn't for you to play in.
I preferred it up there. Constant war-decs were crap but heh, We were always able to pull together about 20 guys who all had different play-styles and time-zones to defend against 40 T3 cruisers that belong to people that have nothing better to do than spend 50+ mil on a war-dec and then sit in a trade hub everyday picking off the odd person.. Not every fricking person plays this game for the PvP aspect, I'll accept its part of it and I do join in if needed, However not everyone wants to play that way.
Hey because something isn't null-sec and isn't PvP must mean that a bunch of no-life idiots must be the ones doing it.. That seems to be the attitude of a lot of people now and its really beginning to **** me off. I've even heard people questioning if CCP take the same stance because all the attention goes to 0.0. and theres never really concern for any of the rest of the playerbase.
Why does this "you must want to PVP me" nonsense always come up? Let me set you straight, it you aren't a Guristas Pirate or a member of the Angel Cartel, (or a real player screwing around nin my ratting system), I don't want to shoot you. I don't care what group you join, where or how you play. Simply saying that getting mad (about the fact that an MMO MIGHT require some cooperation between actual people to keep multi-billion) is pretty damn dumb, but par for the course when it comes to high sec people.
I think I probably went a little off topic a minute ago. And I wasn't neccesarily saying that you want me to PvP, But there are groups out there with the attitude that the game is for PvP players only and anyone else are "Fags,Idiots, Etc...
I know a lot of People in High-sec that co-operate its not as rare as you think, However the issue that someone is trying to raise is that Citadels against capital fleets can hold there ground in null, Anything above the astrahus can hold its ground in high-sec.
But the astrahus is not what CCP had claimed it was going to be. And when you are in a battle there is no point having it there, It doesn't force multiply, If anything it drags you into a locked in fight for something that melts to even a small fleet, It doesn't even have 3/4 of the functionality it was origionally going to have *, They are quite honestly pointless for anyone to have unless you just need to refine ore and store some ships, Oh wait a POS can do that for 1/3rd the cost and Doesn't get you excited for upcoming features that get pulled.
(* BEFORE Anyone says that stuff is coming, I have seen plenty of modules that have just been scrapped from citadels altogether, What happened to manufacturing in one ? Theres not even the button for it anymore, For me so much of what made them something I wanted has been lost..)
There's No Kill Like Overkill !
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Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2016.06.22 16:27:25 -
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bardghost Isu wrote:But the astrahus is not what CCP had claimed it was going to be. This seems to be people's primary objection to the citadels. Not that there is anything wrong with them really, just that people EXPECTED more out of them based on preliminary dev posts.
What really perplexes me is why anyone is still surprised by this sort of thing....
There are of course hundreds of broken promises/dreams I could use as examples, but there is one that stands out the most as far as how ridiculously excited everyone got over it, and how disappointing it really turned out to be:
Walking In Stations
Just be glad they are as close to what was advertised as they are. And seriously, stop whining, it isn't going to do you any good. It just makes people want to give you something to cry about. |
Smendrik Von'Smendle
Nutt 2 Butt
12
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Posted - 2016.06.22 16:33:19 -
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So you didn't get something as advertised? Oh boo hoo at least just take your 1000km drag bubble and be happy with that! |
Joey Bags
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2016.06.22 16:36:47 -
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My two ISK. The entirety of citadel features and benefits has not released yet and that is why outposts and POS's are still there and deployable. It's a new toy ATM and not a replacement for existing structures. Given what CCP has done in the past and some of their stated goals for the future it is obvious that citadels are meant to work as a SOV mechanic to reduce the amount of SOV many of the super alliances hold. It is a fairly difficult (and it should be difficult) task to conquer SOV from even a moderately sized alliance and practically impossible to dislodge SOV from some of the giant sized ones (NIP agreements and coalitions notwithstanding).
You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friends nose.
Unless you podded them...and collected their corpse.
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Chewytowel Haklar
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
189
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Posted - 2016.06.22 16:50:19 -
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I do not believe the voices in my head, they tell me things see. The voices also tell me that I will be able to make a Stargate to a private part of the universe where no one can hurt me. No more bad touch it said. I DON'T BELIEVE IT! |
bardghost Isu
Unity of Suns Warped Intentions
26
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Posted - 2016.06.22 16:56:38 -
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Smendrik Von'Smendle wrote:So you didn't get something as advertised? Oh boo hoo just take your 1000km drag bubble and be happy with that!
Well that's the point people are making, That cant be done in High-sec (Not sure about low) a fair few people feel that they've been screwed over by the devs
There's No Kill Like Overkill !
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Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2016.06.22 17:01:08 -
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bardghost Isu wrote:Smendrik Von'Smendle wrote:So you didn't get something as advertised? Oh boo hoo just take your 1000km drag bubble and be happy with that! Well that's the point people are making, That cant be done in High-sec (Not sure about low) a fair few people feel that they've been screwed over by the devs TBH the only "broken promise" i've even seen in this thread is that it isn't as good as a maxed out large faction tower deathstar POS....
It is the *smallest* citadel people are whining about (presumably they are too poor for the large one?) - and it is pretty comparable in defenses to a maxed out non-faction small/medium POS... (which are routinely killed with 3-5 ships when people are bored).
Plus of course all the other OP features that make it invulnerable 99% of the time and limit damage so 5 ships or 500 do the same damage to it, etc...
Did CCP actually specify a large faction deathstar as the POS it would be equivalent to? Or did they do exactly as advertised and make it roughly equivalent to a *similarly sized* POS? |
Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14216
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Posted - 2016.06.22 17:20:40 -
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I think there is a reason most of the complaining about Astrahuses comes from high sec, and that is that the average high sec player has an 'all or nothing' type attitude.
The Medium Citadel is perfectly defensible, it just won't let you solo blap a well prepared attacking fleet like a POS can. High Sec players put them up like they do POSes and expect to be able to leverage the game's mechanics to keep them safe. But medium citadels don't work like that. in ALL parts of space they require a defense fleet to ensure their survival.
That all or nothing attitude is Pervasive in high sec, you can see it with high sec miners ("even if i tank my mining ship, they will just bring more ganking ships so why bother tanking it, ill just fit for max yield!"), haulers ("I can still be bumped even if i bring a webbing alt, even with the anti-bumping warp mechanic, so CCP needs to do more!") and mission runners ("they are going to gank me anyways, might as well put that gist x type booster on"). And now with high sec Medium Citadel owners...
In other words, it's not the nature of the Medium Citadel, it' the natures of the high sec players who complain about them even when they see others of us outside of high sec using them easily. There is no help for that. |
Pax Deltari
NPC Corp Worst Corp No Doubt
54
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Posted - 2016.06.22 17:27:22 -
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They did't make it equivalent to an equally priced POS.
Also it's interesting how walking in stations has plagued CCP. No one actually gives a **** about being able to walk in stations. It's just a symbol for broken promises. |
Unconspicous Alt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
34
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Posted - 2016.06.22 17:31:48 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:It is the *smallest* citadel people are whining about (presumably they are too poor for the large one?) - and it is pretty comparable in defenses to a maxed out non-faction small/medium POS... (which are routinely killed with 3-5 ships when people are bored).
Did CCP actually specify a large faction deathstar as the POS it would be equivalent to? Or did they do exactly as advertised and make it roughly equivalent to a *similarly sized* POS?
"While the medium structures should be similar to a fully fitted Starbase". However what most people fail to realize is that even the large citadel ( fortizar ), with all the battle rigs, nullsec and skill bonuses, can be easily destroyed by the same number of subcaps ( < 10 ). Might get lucky and destroy the ships that come closer than 20km with the point defense battery but otherwise the 4 antisubcap missiles and one bomb launcher ( can only fit one ) cannot destroy even one faction fitted battleship. Try it on the test server if you dont believe it. If that happens in a w-system that offers bonuses for shield/armor, only very badly fitted ships can be lost against that citadel.
More is described here in a test server feedback post that predates the launch of the expansion. My favorite is this one "One of my sivpuls was able to tank a keepstar when confiq to anti sub cap while double webbed and scrammed.. " |
Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
153
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Posted - 2016.06.22 17:49:15 -
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Pax Deltari wrote:They did't make it equivalent to an equally priced POS.
Also it's interesting how walking in stations has plagued CCP. No one actually gives a **** about being able to walk in stations. It's just a symbol for broken promises.
I care about walking in stations.
Poor Gadget is starting to put on some space pounds.
--Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
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Jenn aSide
Shinigami Miners Test Alliance Please Ignore
14216
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Posted - 2016.06.22 17:53:54 -
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Unconspicous Alt wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:It is the *smallest* citadel people are whining about (presumably they are too poor for the large one?) - and it is pretty comparable in defenses to a maxed out non-faction small/medium POS... (which are routinely killed with 3-5 ships when people are bored).
Did CCP actually specify a large faction deathstar as the POS it would be equivalent to? Or did they do exactly as advertised and make it roughly equivalent to a *similarly sized* POS? "While the medium structures should be similar to a fully fitted Starbase". However what most people here fail to realize is that even the large citadel ( fortizar ), with all the battle rigs, nullsec and skill bonuses, can be easily destroyed by the same number of subcaps ( < 10 ). Might get lucky and destroy the ships that come closer than 20km with the point defense battery but otherwise the 4 antisubcap missiles and one bomb launcher ( can only fit one ) cannot destroy even one faction fitted battleship. Try it on the test server if you dont believe it. If that happens in a w-system that offers bonuses for shield/armor, only very badly fitted ships can be lost against that citadel. More is described here in a test server feedback post that predates the launch of the expansion. My favorite is this one "One of my sivpuls was able to tank a keepstar when confiq to anti sub cap while double webbed and scrammed.. "
The TL;DR of this post should be "but I shouldn't have to make friends, the old system let me blap people solo"!
At no point do people like this examine the idea that maybe what they could do in the past was the thing that was broken, not the new thing they are complaining about.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2016.06.22 17:55:19 -
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Pax Deltari wrote:They did't make it equivalent to an equally priced POS.
Also it's interesting how walking in stations has plagued CCP. No one actually gives a **** about being able to walk in stations. It's just a symbol for broken promises. CCP does not set prices. Players do. Give it time and the price will fall. It is not CCP's fault that you are an impatient idiot. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
63
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Posted - 2016.06.22 18:03:17 -
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Unconspicous Alt wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:It is the *smallest* citadel people are whining about (presumably they are too poor for the large one?) - and it is pretty comparable in defenses to a maxed out non-faction small/medium POS... (which are routinely killed with 3-5 ships when people are bored).
Did CCP actually specify a large faction deathstar as the POS it would be equivalent to? Or did they do exactly as advertised and make it roughly equivalent to a *similarly sized* POS? "While the medium structures should be similar to a fully fitted Starbase". However what most people here fail to realize is that even the large citadel ( fortizar ), with all the battle rigs, nullsec and skill bonuses, can be easily destroyed by the same number of subcaps ( < 10 ). Might get lucky and destroy the ships that come closer than 20km with the point defense battery but otherwise the 4 antisubcap missiles and one bomb launcher ( can only fit one ) cannot destroy even one faction fitted battleship. Try it on the test server if you dont believe it. If that happens in a w-system that offers bonuses for shield/armor, only very badly fitted ships can be lost against that citadel. More is described here in a test server feedback post that predates the launch of the expansion. My favorite is this one "One of my sivpuls was able to tank a keepstar when confiq to anti sub cap while double webbed and scrammed.. " You clearly suck.
NOBODY has killed one yet with less than 15 people - and that one wasn't even fit. AT ALL. The average number of players being used is between 50 and 500 (for a Fortizar).
The *largest* citadel is the Keepstar (so far) - and NOBODY HAS KILLED ONE. AT ALL.
The only citadel dieing to small fleets AT ALL is the astrahus - and as advertized it is equivalent to a small/medium POS and can be killed by 3-5 people.
You are also continuing to ignore the fact that only 5-10 people are *allowed* to apply damage to your stupid citadel at any given time. Even if they bring 100, 90% of their damage is just magically ignored...
If a giant blob wants to kill your Citadel, they should be allowed to apply full dps and wipe it out in 30 seconds. They should also be able to shoot it at *any time* - not just when you feel it is convenient for you to have it vulnerable.
Citadels *are* broken - they are far too safe and secure. Whiners like you do not deserve these benefits and protections from CCP. I demand a nerf. |
Fumya
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.06.22 18:15:56 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:You clearly suck.
NOBODY has killed one yet with less than 15 people - and that one wasn't even fit. AT ALL. The average number of players being used is between 50 and 500 (for a Fortizar).
The *largest* citadel is the Keepstar (so far) - and NOBODY HAS KILLED ONE. AT ALL.
The only citadel dieing to small fleets AT ALL is the astrahus - and as advertized it is equivalent to a small/medium POS and can be killed by 3-5 people.
You are also continuing to ignore the fact that only 5-10 people are *allowed* to apply damage to your stupid citadel at any given time. Even if they bring 100, 90% of their damage is just magically ignored...
If a giant blob wants to kill your Citadel, they should be allowed to apply full dps and wipe it out in 30 seconds. They should also be able to shoot it at *any time* - not just when you feel it is convenient for you to have it vulnerable.
Citadels *are* broken - they are far too safe and secure. Whiners like you do not deserve these benefits and protections from CCP. I demand a nerf.
I usually do not write on forums but this time i feel compelled to tell you that you are an idiot. No matter how polite have people replied to you, you resort to cursing and offense towards anyone that does not share your opinion. That is, beside that fact that you have been several times ranting way past the subject of the OP, and also have already proved at least twice that you have no idea what you are talking about. You were presented with evidence but refuse to read it or try it on the test server. You also impose, by a very rude language, your opinion about things you yourself admit have not even try yet.
Obviously the OP and the rest of the people here are too polite to tell you in the face, but i cannot refrain myself to inform you that you are by far the biggest imbecile i have seen in these forums until now. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2016.06.22 18:20:08 -
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Fumya wrote:and also have already proved at least twice that you have no idea what you are talking about. Are you referring to the posts claiming I'm wrong based on mechanics from 2008? You realize that was 8 ****ING YEARS AGO right? The game has changed since then... The fact that you are too pathetically stupid and lazy to look up the *current* mechanics does not mean we all travel back in time to the mechanics you think are still in use....seriously....
All that has been proven is that I am 100% right, and you idiots will persist in believing whatever you want to believe regardless of evidence.
As for my abrasive manner - I have little patience for idiots. I also feel compelled to inform you that *you* are one of the idiots here. |
Fumya
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.06.22 18:26:14 -
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I am referring to these posts, you imbecile. Learn to treat people in a polite manner so you can look like you have more than 4 neurons in that pitiful brain of yours.
Dirty Forum Alt wrote:TBH my main problem with Citadels is that everything stored inside them is magically 100% safe no matter what, and can even be transported an infinite distance from inside a secluded wormhole to a safe npc-owned station An undefended player owned outpost requires any solo ship to destroy.Learn 2 EVE. I am also inclined to believe that your fittings on both your citadel and your carriers suck - along with your skills. You guys are clearly just grasping at straws to give yourself reasons to whine, and ignoring all of the unprecedented benefits that are being thrown at you with these new structures. HTFU or GTFO. It is not CCP's fault that you are an impatient idiot. That is why he is whining (and presumably why he built a citadel) Are you people literally this clueless about current game mechanics? This whiny and overly defensive attitude[...] This is why everyone treats you like a no-life idiot. You clearly suck. Whiners like you do not deserve these benefits and protections from CCP. I demand a nerf.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
64
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Posted - 2016.06.22 18:28:18 -
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Fumya wrote:I am referring to these posts, you imbecile. Learn to treat people in a polite manner so you can look like you have more than 4 neurons in that pitiful brain of yours. Dirty Forum Alt wrote:TBH my main problem with Citadels is that everything stored inside them is magically 100% safe no matter what, and can even be transported an infinite distance from inside a secluded wormhole to a safe npc-owned station An undefended player owned outpost requires any solo ship to destroy.Learn 2 EVE. I am also inclined to believe that your fittings on both your citadel and your carriers suck - along with your skills. You guys are clearly just grasping at straws to give yourself reasons to whine, and ignoring all of the unprecedented benefits that are being thrown at you with these new structures. HTFU or GTFO. It is not CCP's fault that you are an impatient idiot. That is why he is whining (and presumably why he built a citadel) Are you people literally this clueless about current game mechanics? This whiny and overly defensive attitude[...] This is why everyone treats you like a no-life idiot. You clearly suck. Whiners like you do not deserve these benefits and protections from CCP. I demand a nerf. So I didn't know the items weren't safe inside of a wh - that is the only thing I was wrong about....and it isn't even relevant to the topic at hand...You really are grasping at straws... |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2016.06.22 18:28:30 -
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#clawsarecomingout
Gÿ+
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
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Unconspicous Alt
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.06.22 18:34:36 -
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Fumya wrote:Obviously the OP and the rest of the people here are too polite to tell you in the face,
Thank you but please do not bother. Everyone here already has a very good idea about this guy's real intelligence. For the such like him, the best way is to ignore them. They do not write anything worth reading anyways. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.06.22 18:35:07 -
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Doc Fury wrote:#clawsarecomingout Indeed. If people put half this much effort into defending their citadels instead of trying to defend their imaginary grievances against CCP and crying they wouldn't have anything to worry about |
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