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Seph Res PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:08:00 - [1] after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoffski tactics of logoffski voltera: specially to mention: kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u? Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min. proof or stfu? [ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven). nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are..
munchy Prison Break Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:12:00 - [2] Edited by: munchy on 04/03/2007 11:09:48 though logging off is lame, from what i can see all that log proves is you scrambled a raven. EDIT - in fact, logs arent even hard to fake anyway, Fraps is prettymuch the only proof you can get, or screenshots of him logged off while his ship is in front of you. ---
Ritchler Gallente BOOM - Gotcha United Corporations of Eve	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:16:00 - [3] 2nd in a whien thread
Seph Rey	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:18:00 - [4] Edited by: Seph Rey on 04/03/2007 11:15:10 yes i will now fraps all actions of the guys i can get, i heard from some mates they log off in any engagement they had with em the last days...and even u think im whining i cant understand how to log off with aggro and disappear from scanner after 1 min edit: sry for posting with this alt i havent watched the fields ^^
Ishquar Teh'Sainte Faaip De Oiad	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:18:00 - [5] a player agressed AFTER logging off disappears after 1 minute a player agressed BEFORE logging off disappears after 15 minutes ___________________ -Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
Jonathan Peterbilt Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:19:00 - [6] Originally by: Seph Res after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoffski tactics of logoffski voltera: specially to mention: kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u? Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min. proof or stfu? [ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven). nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are.. Add every RA and Goon member to the list times 10......
Ice Breaker2 Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:19:00 - [7] This is not new, I've seen lots of lv (shinra to be more specific) log off in combat or jumping in on us. I guess this is their new "thing" _______________________________________________ PvP is a Sport of Violence, Exclusion, and Degradation
Seph Res PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:21:00 - [8] the thorax was aggressed before logging off, he shooted back and still dissapeared after 1 min, the raven wasnt so that is no prob then i know
civari Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:24:00 - [9] Same here, got fraps of LV logging off to save his pod. (See the pod warping out of a disruptor bubble) Video: Fun in Geminate
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:26:00 - [10] Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt Add every RA and Goon member to the list times 10...... Here's a vid for you too. EVE Offline by [TYC]

chinooka Sunshine Carebear Crew	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:32:00 - [11] Tip 1 "covert ops" Tip 2 "scan logged off pilot" Tip 3 "kill logged off pilot" Tip 4 "scan logged off pod" Tip 5 "kill logged off pod" Tip 6 "stop posting crap" have a nice day
Tialc Gallente Juggernaut Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:32:00 - [12] Originally by: Seph Res after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoffski tactics of logoffski voltera: specially to mention: kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u? Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min. proof or stfu? [ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven). nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are.. Can Shinra/DeltaTeam give us the ansewr if they allowed their members to logoff in combat/gatecamps like this ? I see both members are less then 20 days in LV, i normaly had ever respect for LV and special for the Delta Team but this is kind of lame. So a ansewr where nice : )
Tialc Gallente Juggernaut Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:33:00 - [13] Originally by: chinooka Tip 1 "covert ops" Tip 2 "scan logged off pilot" Tip 3 "kill logged off pilot" Tip 4 "scan logged off pod" Tip 5 "kill logged off pod" Tip 6 "stop posting crap" have a nice day Tip, dont post with alts
Kyria Timeyu Pie Vendor	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:34:00 - [14] reasonable post with alt > stupid whine with main
Turin Shroud Gallente Fermentation Process	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:34:00 - [15] aaa complaining about logoffski? oh the hypocrisy.
Tirtia Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:41:00 - [16] Edited by: Tirtia on 04/03/2007 11:37:57 Logging off in combat is maybe lame tactic but perfectly legal according to ccp. Thia has been debated for ages, and at least half of all eve populace have used it at some point. Stop whining about something a majority of players will do at some point in their careers! And it is impossible to proof however someone lost connection on logged at will, and this is the reason CCP has stated million times. Would be great if people could do some research before they blabbered all over the forums...
Seph Res PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:42:00 - [17] Originally by: chinooka Tip 1 "covert ops" Tip 2 "scan logged off pilot" Tip 3 "kill logged off pilot" Tip 4 "scan logged off pod" Tip 5 "kill logged off pod" Tip 6 "stop posting crap" have a nice day read first, then think about it, then post..i said he disappeared even with aggro
RichThugster Gallente 0riginal Pirate Material	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:42:00 - [18] indeed AAA are slightly hypocritical, however AAA log off before a battle has began. these LV members have logged off specifically to save their ships. However to hear this from an AAA member is slightly amusing
FraXy 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:42:00 - [19] Joke thread of the week right?
turnschuh coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:44:00 - [20] rofl you got to be kidding dude, your alliance logged of dozen of ships during the war in impass, even rifters and shuttles. I think we collected 2hours fraps of AAA guys logging of at our bubble camps. Personally I dont care about logging and I respect AAA no matter what but you better check with whom you are playing before complaining.

chinooka Sunshine Carebear Crew	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:45:00 - [21] Originally by: Seph Res Originally by: chinooka Tip 1 "covert ops" Tip 2 "scan logged off pilot" Tip 3 "kill logged off pilot" Tip 4 "scan logged off pod" Tip 5 "kill logged off pod" Tip 6 "stop posting crap" have a nice day read first, then think about it, then post..i said he disappeared even with aggro I will read it properly when there is something decent to read till then my point is still valid 8)
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:46:00 - [22] Originally by: Seph Res logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible.. I've seen this a couple of time too. It's a petitionable exploit. They are not exactly logging of but having a second computer in character selection screen. When they need to bolt they just hit "enter the game" on one of those characters. Don't know if it is the same character you need to login but the ship of the formerly logged in will instantly disappear. File a petition. Don't whine about it on forums. Originally by: Cipher7 Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead
Seph Res PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:47:00 - [23] Edited by: Seph Res on 04/03/2007 11:45:36 i just post my personal view of this things... Djerin thx a lot that was the answer i needed
Mourning Starr M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.04 11:59:00 - [24] Would you like some cheese with your whine?
Seph Rey	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:10:00 - [25] Originally by: Mourning Starr Would you like some cheese with your whine? i think u should bring it on the field btw 2 logoffskies again ^^ cowards
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:14:00 - [26] Pot Kettle? ----- $Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++;
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:15:00 - [27] Originally by: Seph Res after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoffski tactics of logoffski voltera: specially to mention: kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u? Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min. proof or stfu? [ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven). nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are.. yeah, it's lame, isn't it? At least AAA do login all at once a couple hours later! incredible skill and shows what extraordinary PvPers you are! An AAA complaining about logging is a funny view :) regards x x x x x x x x x x x x x x Life's a waste of time ...
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:21:00 - [28] Edited by: End Yourself on 04/03/2007 12:20:22 Originally by: Djerin Originally by: Seph Res logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible.. I've seen this a couple of time too. It's a petitionable exploit. They are not exactly logging of but having a second computer in character selection screen. When they need to bolt they just hit "enter the game" on one of those characters. Don't know if it is the same character you need to login but the ship of the formerly logged in will instantly disappear. File a petition. Don't whine about it on forums. Just one thing, I think they still have the "login screen" and not char selection. As logging in allready disconnects your first client. Doesn't have to be a second computer though i think, same one should do just fine. Wasn't this fixed ages ago though?!? Or did you just implement an old "feature" again CCP? @LV: It's damn funny to see more than 50% of those of you we engaged since your arrival in stain logoff to save their ships. I mean after like years of reading your "RA logoffski.... blabla" propaganda on the whorums!!! You might really want to consider getting rid of all the riff-raff in your ranks. T0SHIR0 for example would be a good start. Tried same on us, he got killed anyway. After logging off and on multiple times managing to save his pod what do we get from him: T0SHIR0 > you are proud for that eh ? Someone who sneaks into a deadend system in his raven to hide while carebearing and then logs off when jumping into a gang asking if you are proud of getting the kill anyway?!? Btw before i get my asbestos suit: this is not a whine, neither meant as smack, just a fellow player trying to be helpfull whipping your alliance into shape again. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
ustasatomekk Caldari Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:25:00 - [29] Originally by: Turin Shroud aaa complaining about logoffski? oh the hypocrisy. signed to the main topic: dont make me to post screens about logging.cos i was roaming before in lv space and aaa space and most logofski i saw in AAA space so stop whining and log to eve and play the game.you guys invented loging and jump to gate and log cloacked then dissiperaing in 30 sec even bubbled and scrabmled and now you are came to forums whining like girls
Jane Spondogolo NoobWaffe	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:25:00 - [30] Originally by: chinooka Tip 1 "covert ops" Tip 2 "scan logged off pilot" Tip 3 "kill logged off pilot" Tip 4 "scan logged off pod" Tip 5 "kill logged off pod" Tip 6 "stop posting crap" have a nice day Tip 7 "Read , comprehend, THEN post." have a nice day

Mindlles 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:25:00 - [31] Learn to play the game, and u know what, U might succed in staying online. And to poster u might want to lock into ur own ranks before saying someting. And ccp ffs, fix this problems or are we suppoes to play a game with losers, becouse tell us that u arent planing to fix it if so. so i can quite. Becouse have no bigger intrest to play a game with enemys that suck so bad that they have to logg off ..
Marneous Calgar Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:30:00 - [32] As has been said, if you log out you can log in an alt on the same account and it will remove your ship from space even with agro. You cannot petition it - its already been petitioned by lots of people and CCP do not care about it so dont bother petitioning. Also - RA and Goon do it all the time, RZR also do it - we've been camping a RZR nano gang thats been logged off in a dead end system for the last 10 hours and they just log in an alt when they get agro so they cant be probed. Stop whining and play like everyone else does, you cant expect one Alliance to not use the tactic if everyone else uses it. Get rid of your double standards. --------------------------------------------- The Dragon rides again apon the winds of time.
Saul Reaver UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:31:00 - [33] Originally by: Seph Rey Originally by: Mourning Starr Would you like some cheese with your whine? i think u should bring it on the field btw 2 logoffskies again ^^ cowards At least we have the guts to post our corp/alliance info with our character info while posting on forums. COWARD!
Tree Fiddy Caldari Heretic Entity	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:32:00 - [34] ROFLCOPTERS!! You are aware why its called LOGOFFSKI right? Have a close look at those around you before you post. The OP is the Mad Dog 20 20 of Whine. I say I ain't giving you no tree fiddy you goddamned Loch Ness monster.
Seph Res PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:35:00 - [35] Originally by: ustasatomekk Originally by: Turin Shroud aaa complaining about logoffski? oh the hypocrisy. signed to the main topic: dont make me to post screens about logging.cos i was roaming before in lv space and aaa space and most logofski i saw in AAA space so stop whining and log to eve and play the game.you guys invented loging and jump to gate and log cloacked then dissiperaing in 30 sec even bubbled and scrabmled and now you are came to forums whining like girls i never logged after being in a camp i die always with honor, i have no problem with dying its just a game, i speak for me personally i dont care what others do, our corp isnt allowed to log off if u do u will be warned then kicked after 3 warnings
Djerin Obsidian Exploration Services	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:35:00 - [36] Originally by: Marneous Calgar You cannot petition it Yes you can. It's out of game mechanics. Whoever told you that bs is prolly doing it themselves... Originally by: Cipher7 Its like if the Imperial Star Destroyers flew past the X-Wing fighters and started flying circles around them, it would turn Star Wars into a slapstick comedy a-la Benny Hill instead
ustasatomekk Caldari Constructive Influence	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:46:00 - [37] Originally by: Seph Res Originally by: ustasatomekk Originally by: Turin Shroud aaa complaining about logoffski? oh the hypocrisy. signed to the main topic: dont make me to post screens about logging.cos i was roaming before in lv space and aaa space and most logofski i saw in AAA space so stop whining and log to eve and play the game.you guys invented loging and jump to gate and log cloacked then dissiperaing in 30 sec even bubbled and scrabmled and now you are came to forums whining like girls i never logged after being in a camp i die always with honor, i have no problem with dying its just a game, i speak for me personally i dont care what others do, our corp isnt allowed to log off if u do u will be warned then kicked after 3 warnings then if i post a screenshot of someone in your allaince will you kick it.cos you said corp.if yes i will post a aaa member loging to show you.i didnt say YOU are logging i dont know that so i can speak about that.i can only say i notice alots (maybe most from any allaince) of members from your alliance logging i sucha situtions you described so stop posting about LV member loged.i hope ccp will fix this but till then there is NO POINT posting something like you posted now. dont pretend that your allaince is made of all honourable pilots. and btw if you are that like you said "i never logged after being in a camp i die always with honor" thats cool and i would wish for chirstmas that all players from aaa are just like you.
Zeveron Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:51:00 - [38] Originally by: Seph Res after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoffski tactics of logoffski voltera: specially to mention: kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u? Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min. proof or stfu? [ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven). nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are.. omg, look who is talking. -A- members should be the last to talk about that lame tactic. ---------------------------------- A desperate voice brakes the silence on the GODS coms:
aggro Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:54:00 - [39] i made a similar post last week about LV logging off. it was over 50% of there members doing it. It must be taught them by the fc and directors. So can someone from lv please answer why this new tactics of there is so ingrained into them now.
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:56:00 - [40] yawnski

KeepItSimple M. Corp	Posted - 2007.03.04 12:57:00 - [41] Logoffsky is lame whoever does it. I have witnessed a few LV pilots do it. From the battlefield, I would say around 75% of RaGoon does it. Very lame and very common.
Goljo	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:01:00 - [42] Im new member of AAA and PPN, PPN have the policie, if you logoff in combat you will be kicked. so if you see one of us, talk with our CEO. My personaly view is Logging of in combat is a lame thing,. and so.. it give me a strange feeling that so many in this thread say its ok.. <this post is free of smack :) >
Skape Gote Caldari M. Corp	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:10:00 - [43] Originally by: aggro i made a similar post last week about LV logging off. it was over 50% of there members doing it. It must be taught them by the fc and directors. So can someone from lv please answer why this new tactics of there is so ingrained into them now. Aggro youre a good bloke but your talking crap. Logging is as lame as it gets and I know not a single FC in LV would advocate it. Sadly it happens in all alliances but as some guy up the thread said its called "logoffski" for a reason. Have a close look at some of your alliance buddies. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue......
TheArchJudge Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:15:00 - [44] Originally by: Seph Res after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoffski tactics of logoffski voltera: specially to mention: kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u? Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min. proof or stfu? [ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven). nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are.. I know that guy, he is curently in the hall of shame in delta for his action, but kicking him out means it will be unjust (delta only kicks members that does something bad to other corp members or doesn't do something for his corp) and also its not my call. I can say one thing thou, blaiming a whole alliance by the action's of few is even more lame than logoffski. And to be done with, i am sure your whine ... comeing from a AAA member (a alliance that was famous for organised login traps), comes as a compliment to most LV. Yesterday i too saw a TCF guy loging off to save his pod in my dictor bubble after calling me a wuss for not engageing his hurricane with my sabre, do you see me making thread's saying that i disrespect his whole alliance for his action?
Ohmite Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:15:00 - [45] Every keeps saying about AAA Logoffski, my understanding is they are accused of logging off on mass and logging back in, some may think this is lame some may not - however this is about logging off in combat to save ship pod etc which is certainly different and is a purely selfish act to save ur ship and has no honour. Since LV have moved to Stain to set-up new home, the percentage who log to save ships is over 50% that is very high for any corp in eve so most be something they encourage because obviously there are a number of people in all corps who might use this tactic even if against corp policy but they are the minority of almost all corps. I assume most corp do not agree on this policy and will punish people who do - DO LV??
Vyndicator Amarr 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:15:00 - [46] hahahha. Imagine that, someone from AAA having a whine thread about people logging off. As people like to say, pot..kettle..you're both black. Logging is lame, but why point the fingure at other people when your alliance do it just as much.
Kam SingDu'k Singularity.	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:16:00 - [47] First of all LOLLLLL!11!!! at an -a- member complaining about logoffski. Secondly, I think that when you logoffski, if you do get agroed in the process of warping off then the 15 min timer should go on. This means that bigger ships which usually will not be saved from a gatecamp will die, and the quicker inties etc would survive since they usually do 90% of the time. This way it would also protect most of the people who genuinely crash since you still warp off and wait 1 min, its just that if you are unfortunate to get agro then you still die... but you cant please everyone.
Horza Otho Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:21:00 - [48] Triple A complaining about logoffskis is like Rosey O'Donald complaining about eating food.
Ohmite Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:30:00 - [49] Some people need a reality check - just because a player joins AAA for one day does not mean he suddenly becomes a logoffski. The initial thread was based on what was seen in the recent days in a particular area by a few individuals not based on a reputation of said alliance a year ago and a different tactic altogether AAA a while ago did use logoff in traps, they killed our frieghter in Supremacy doesnt mean they do it all the time, other alliances use the tactic just because AAA used it first - This thread is about logging in combat not logoff/on traps
Sameth Technology Acquisition Collective Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:32:00 - [50] AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites.

FraXy 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:42:00 - [51] Originally by: Sameth AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites. Are we talking about the same AAA? Because the ones i`m familiar with got a gang killed in A2- inside a Large Bubble and 2-3 pilots logged off. Then continued logging on and off to "escape" being inside bubble. This is hands on experience among a lot of other incidents. Please look at personal ranks/alliance before pointing fingers on other people.
The Beatnuts Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:48:00 - [52] Originally by: Vyndicator hahahha. Imagine that, someone from AAA having a whine thread about people logging off. As people like to say, pot..kettle..you're both black. Logging is lame, but why point the fingure at other people when your alliance do it just as much. I can't see weather you can't understand or just don't want to. AAA has been accused of loggin in/off before fights, avoiding something CCP still doesn't want to remove, the "local" chat. But that's another conversation, totaly. Or do you prefer continuing to talk about a whole alliance while killing their pilots only in pure ganks? <za preved pizda>
Vyndicator Amarr 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:49:00 - [53] Originally by: Sameth AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites. Funny, every AAA I've had the pleasure of killing recently (ok I can't remember any who haven't) have logged in a bubble in a camp, or to save their pod. It's a shame you people haven't fought against them to find out how good their "tactics" are (they die 90% of the time even when they log).
The Beatnuts Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:49:00 - [54] Originally by: FraXy Originally by: Sameth AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites. Are we talking about the same AAA? Because the ones i`m familiar with got a gang killed in A2- inside a Large Bubble and 2-3 pilots logged off. Then continued logging on and off to "escape" being inside bubble. This is hands on experience among a lot of other incidents. Please look at personal ranks/alliance before pointing fingers on other people. ^ \| <za preved pizda>
The Beatnuts Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:50:00 - [55] Originally by: Vyndicator It's a shame you people haven't fought against them to find out how good their "tactics" are (they die 90% of the time even when they log). Yep, that what happens when you bring 10 people to kill one person. <za preved pizda>
Ty'derian ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:51:00 - [56] Originally by: FraXy Originally by: Sameth AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites. Are we talking about the same AAA? Because the ones i`m familiar with got a gang killed in A2- inside a Large Bubble and 2-3 pilots logged off. Then continued logging on and off to "escape" being inside bubble. This is hands on experience among a lot of other incidents. Please look at personal ranks/alliance before pointing fingers on other people. loooooooooooooool !! Outbreak is talking about logoffski on the Forum ? yesterday 5 of Outbreaks logoff in out bubbelcamp ! you should realy shut up on the forum
Vyndicator Amarr 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:52:00 - [57] Originally by: The Beatnuts Originally by: Vyndicator hahahha. Imagine that, someone from AAA having a whine thread about people logging off. As people like to say, pot..kettle..you're both black. Logging is lame, but why point the fingure at other people when your alliance do it just as much. I can't see weather you can't understand or just don't want to. AAA has been accused of loggin in/off before fights, avoiding something CCP still doesn't want to remove, the "local" chat. But that's another conversation, totaly. Or do you prefer continuing to talk about a whole alliance while killing their pilots only in pure ganks? Come fight us and we won't just gank you You're talking about something completely different, I couldn't care less about local chat or any of the surrounding "issues" some people have with it. The fact is AAA will log to save their ships and pods. Don't try to cloud the issue. If one of your alliance mates is whinging about someone else doing exactly the same thing....Understand yet?
TheArchJudge Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:53:00 - [58] Originally by: Sameth AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites. Right, so having some dude login off to save his npc raven because he is a newb is lamer than having 100 people login in organised to gain an advantage thru surprise over the enemy? I can tell you neither LV or Delta has a policy involving people loggin off in combat to save their ships. Nor do we have forum threads teaching people how to logoff like some alliances i know. Usualy people that logoff like this are people that are LV/Delta only with the name. Better luck flaiming next time.
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:53:00 - [59] Originally by: Ohmite Edited by: Ohmite on 04/03/2007 13:17:54 Everyone keeps saying about AAA Logoffski, my understanding is they are accused of logging off on mass and logging back in, some may think this is lame some may not - however this is about logging off in combat to save ship pod etc which is certainly different and is a purely selfish act to save ur ship and has no honour. Since LV have moved to Stain to set-up new home, the percentage who log to save ships is over 50% that is very high for any corp in eve so most be something they encourage because obviously there are a number of people in all corps who might use this tactic even if against corp policy but they are the minority of almost all corps. I assume most corp do not agree on this policy and will punish people who do - DO LV?? Just saw ur post Skape - Agg and a few of us are commenting on what we have seen, not speculation but based on what fact, I hope LV do not support this action, if the dont support it they need to make it clear again to there members as a number of them are ruining your reputation 2 out of 3 LV BS we killed within the last 2 days in stain were killed after trying to save their ass logging off. I don't (even really want to) know how many succeeded in saving their ass. Which is pretty sad numbers and i would act immidiately if it was my corp/alliance. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
The Beatnuts Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:55:00 - [60] Originally by: Vyndicator Understand yet? No, you guys are just too cool for me. <za preved pizda>

Vyndicator Amarr 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:56:00 - [61] Originally by: Ty'derian Originally by: FraXy Originally by: Sameth - - This is hands on experience among a lot of other incidents. Please look at personal ranks/alliance before pointing fingers on other people. loooooooooooooool !! Outbreak is talking about logoffski on the Forum ? yesterday 5 of Outbreaks logoff in out bubbelcamp ! you should realy shut up on the forum Mail Marko with proof of it names/time/etc and they will be dealt with, our corp has a strick policy about metagaming, unlike most others in eve. They will be dealt with serverly.
FraXy 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 13:59:00 - [62] Originally by: The Beatnuts Originally by: Vyndicator It's a shame you people haven't fought against them to find out how good their "tactics" are (they die 90% of the time even when they log). Yep, that what happens when you bring 10 people to kill one person. Gonna have enough points to tackle.
Mourning Starr M. Corp	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:00:00 - [63] OP - did it ever occur to you that they may have just been wearing boots of escaping?
Apocalypsee Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:03:00 - [64] Op is a big cry baby that cant kill a single raven he's so angry he went from whining in local to forums. I try to explain to him this comming from AAA is just funny but his eyes are closed to what he doesnt want to see. Pointless post by a nub.
Alizeee Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:09:00 - [65] IMHO there is only one thing lamer than logging off, it's starting another thread on eve-o and crying about it.
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:19:00 - [66] Originally by: Apocalypsee Op is a big cry baby that cant kill a single raven he's so angry he went from whining in local to forums. I try to explain to him this comming from AAA is just funny but his eyes are closed to what he doesnt want to see. Pointless post by a nub. That's the way to handle this! --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Ohmite Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:20:00 - [67] Originally by: Alizeee IMHO there is only one thing lamer than logging off, it's starting another thread on eve-o and crying about it. What is more lame is posting with an alt!!!!
The Beatnuts Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:21:00 - [68] Originally by: FraXy Originally by: The Beatnuts Originally by: Vyndicator It's a shame you people haven't fought against them to find out how good their "tactics" are (they die 90% of the time even when they log). Yep, that what happens when you bring 10 people to kill one person. Gonna have enough points to tackle. Love you fraX :) ♥ You know i wub Outbreak! I mean s**t you have Welsh wizard :) Can't be cooler than that! /om <za preved pizda>
TheArchJudge Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:23:00 - [69] Originally by: Ohmite Originally by: Alizeee IMHO there is only one thing lamer than logging off, it's starting another thread on eve-o and crying about it. What is more lame is posting with an alt!!!! Hehe signed
Kusotarre Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:33:00 - [70] Originally by: Marneous Calgar Also - RA and Goon do it all the time, RZR also do it - we've been camping a RZR nano gang thats been logged off in a dead end system for the last 10 hours and they just log in an alt when they get agro so they cant be probed. Stop whining and play like everyone else does, you cant expect one Alliance to not use the tactic if everyone else uses it. Get rid of your double standards. Two things: First, Logging off after jumping into a dead end system, when all other gates were camped with 3 carriers, a dread, and approx 12 battleships (to our support heavy gang of 14), is entirely different than logging out after jumping into a bubble - something none of us have ever done. Second, Your cloaker you had in this dead end system, at least the one I saw (Thys) is possibly the most incompetent cloaker I've ever witnessed. I was in my sleipnir, at a planet, for at least 20 minutes. He used a fathom probe, couldn't find me. Tried the fathom again, didn't find me. He then used a snoop probe, destroyed it, and cloaked. I assume he found me. I waited another 5 minutes, no one came in, and our chance to escape came along, so I left system. Nice try, but no.

Sharken Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:44:00 - [71] lol.. this thread made my day ! never seen something so hilarious... the 2 entities which use this tactic the most start to ***** about each other.... drama.... i lub it just keep the sites comming.. it¦s sunday, and i¦m bored to death at work
FraXy 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 14:54:00 - [72] Originally by: The Beatnuts Originally by: FraXy Originally by: The Beatnuts Originally by: Vyndicator It's a shame you people haven't fought against them to find out how good their "tactics" are (they die 90% of the time even when they log). Yep, that what happens when you bring 10 people to kill one person. Gonna have enough points to tackle. Love you fraX :) ♥ You know i wub Outbreak! I mean s**t you have Welsh wizard :) Can't be cooler than that! /om My only love is reserved for MOS DEF, but if Elarra somehow disappears from the picture maybe a third person can be squeezed in.
Asayar	Posted - 2007.03.04 15:13:00 - [73] ah well. when its legal to do this "second login" on 2nd comp (with having agro) to avoid loosing your ship, then i wonder how the next titan will be killed :)
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 15:13:00 - [74] Stop whining. Logging off to save your ship is perfectly legal. Log Off -> Ship Saved -> Enemy inflicted less isk damage to you -> Good to you -> Bad to him.
Kustra FIRE Minmatar DEUS EX MACHINA	Posted - 2007.03.04 15:16:00 - [75] Originally by: Seph Res after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoffski tactics of logoffski voltera: specially to mention: kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u? Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min. proof or stfu? [ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven). nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are.. So tell me, how does it feel to be logoffskied on? do you like it? do you feel cheated on? ok, good because now yo know how everyone feels about RA and some of aaa
KeepItSimple M. Corp	Posted - 2007.03.04 15:23:00 - [76] Edited by: KeepItSimple on 04/03/2007 15:20:22 Originally by: Evil Thug Stop whining. Logging off to save your ship is perfectly legal. Log Off -> Ship Saved -> Enemy inflicted less isk damage to you -> Good to you -> Bad to him. Intentional logging off to save ship/pod is an exploit afaik. There is just no way off proving the logging of was intentional. Still, that doesn't make it legal does it? Either way, it is still lame imo.
Xade Caldari K.T.P	Posted - 2007.03.04 15:26:00 - [77] Originally by: Seph Res after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoffski tactics of logoffski voltera: specially to mention: kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u? Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min. proof or stfu? [ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven). nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are.. I think it goes something like this - if you can't beat them join them. How is it when LV made similar complaints about Goonswarm, red alliance and other isk whoring alliances no one cared. But now LV has sided with Bob its suddenly discaceful that they do it. Also this coming from a AAA member. Isn't AAA headed by rage and terror a corp which never found any dishonour logging off with RA when the going got tough during LV battles. Long live BoB and its allies the true warriors of EvE
Abbadon Karis Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.04 16:11:00 - [78] Originally by: Ty'derian loooooooooooooool !! Outbreak is talking about logoffski on the Forum ? yesterday 5 of Outbreaks logoff in out bubbelcamp ! you should realy shut up on the forum Heh owned, was bound to backfire no? When we hang the capatalists, they will sell us the ropes we use. -Josef Stalin
Krugerrand 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 16:16:00 - [79] Originally by: Abbadon Karis Originally by: Ty'derian loooooooooooooool !! Outbreak is talking about logoffski on the Forum ? yesterday 5 of Outbreaks logoff in out bubbelcamp ! you should realy shut up on the forum Heh owned, was bound to backfire no? Sure...not seen any proof yet. Anyone caught logging off in our corp will be punished as said, just mail our ceo.
Nebuchadnezzar I Art of War	Posted - 2007.03.04 16:30:00 - [80] WTF kinda of a whine is this? It is coming from an alliance openly admitting to using logon traps? :O Glass house and stone etc etc.

maarud Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.04 16:32:00 - [81] Man this is rich coming from AAA, whom together with RA, invented logoffski. Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member
captain pinoy	Posted - 2007.03.04 17:00:00 - [82] AAA member whining about logoffski! hahahahaha! karma is a b*tch doesnt it?
Moonlight Express Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.04 17:18:00 - [83] Yea, this is rich. The people that invented logoffski are complaing that someone is using it against them? Priceless.
Supay Caldari The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.03.04 17:26:00 - [84] Are you serious? A thread by AAA whining about logoffs? I fly a dictor almost all the time and you guys logged off every single time you hit my bubble. It didn't matter whether it was a Battleship, all the way down to a lowly rifter, you hit the bubble and bing, gone from local and emergency warp away.
xh'duality Caldari Caldari Luftwaffe Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.04 17:58:00 - [85] Hehe tell us something new. They always do it. Like yet again last night I find a pilgrim and decide to sacrivice me ranis to get to hold himt ill gang is in. They always fall for it hehe. But yet again his pod log's mulitple times. Sad but true. --------------------------------------------------- It take's 10 finger's for to smacktalk and ONLY ONE TO WIN [The all mighty "I WIN BOTTON"]
juduzz Amarr The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.03.04 18:06:00 - [86] Ive seen members of LV, RA, AAA, BOB, GOON, D2, FLA, MM, IRON, E-U,ESA, WOLFS, PURE, HYDRA, OWNED, GAURD, TRE, -10........(need i continue) log off, its something taht member of every alliance does sadly so TBH not realy worth a thread tbh its like the OMG i killed a carrier thread or OMG privateers decced an alliance thread it happens so much unfortunately that it not realy thread worthy :/
Skape Gote Caldari M. Corp	Posted - 2007.03.04 18:08:00 - [87] Originally by: juduzz Ive seen members of LV, RA, AAA, BOB, GOON, D2, FLA, MM, IRON, E-U,ESA, WOLFS, PURE, HYDRA, OWNED, GAURD, TRE, -10........(need i continue) log off, its something taht member of every alliance does sadly so TBH not realy worth a thread tbh its like the OMG i killed a carrier thread or OMG privateers decced an alliance thread it happens so much unfortunately that it not realy thread worthy :/ QFT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guess I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue......
Myz Toyou the Organ Grinder and Company Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.04 18:23:00 - [88] Originally by: Krugerrand Originally by: Abbadon Karis Originally by: Ty'derian loooooooooooooool !! Outbreak is talking about logoffski on the Forum ? yesterday 5 of Outbreaks logoff in out bubbelcamp ! you should realy shut up on the forum Heh owned, was bound to backfire no? Sure...not seen any proof yet. Anyone caught logging off in our corp will be punished as said, just mail our ceo. Will they get tortured with David Hasselhoff on TS ??? CYVOK > All you station jockies better get out their and start killing these idiots SirMolle 2006.12.13 12:18:00 I dont lie to my members ever. Theres your answer.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.04 19:05:00 - [89] I fully endorse this thread and the original post. Not only did it make me think, and chuckle, but it was at the fore of my mind one million kilometres from the Efa gate in 3-F today as I was killing the logged out AAA/RAT pod from the Crow we just killed in the dictor sphere there. Myn
Ace Frehley Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 19:37:00 - [90] Hey I¦m ace, I¦m naked atm, I¦m in AAA so i must log everytime I loose a ship Jesus stop throwing mud around, every allaince corp etc has loggers sadly. I¦m in a corp that hopefully kick loggers... and we in AAA... please explain that for me... Girljerms is more lethal then a fleet of 1000 Tempests Yeah I¦m nude, I¦m a swede and I¦m armed with bad jokes [url="http://www.

aimez Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.04 19:50:00 - [91] Originally by: Ace Frehley Hey I¦m ace, I¦m naked atm, I¦m in AAA so i must log everytime I loose a ship Jesus stop throwing mud around, every allaince corp etc has loggers sadly. I¦m in a corp that hopefully kick loggers... and we in AAA... please explain that for me... /me hugles ace, feel the lub
Zarrika Khan Caldari No Quarter. Academy	Posted - 2007.03.04 19:57:00 - [92] Originally by: FraXy Originally by: Sameth AFAIK, -A- dont log off in bubbles like this lame ass ****, they organise traps and log IN on people, there is a very big difference. Logging off to avoid dying is fairly lame, logging in to get into combat? Its polar opposites. Are we talking about the same AAA? Because the ones i`m familiar with got a gang killed in A2- inside a Large Bubble and 2-3 pilots logged off. Then continued logging on and off to "escape" being inside bubble. This is hands on experience among a lot of other incidents. Please look at personal ranks/alliance before pointing fingers on other people. I have witnessed this log off, log on, log off again done by -A- pilots at our old bubble camp as well in 9koe.. we immediately identified this as -A-'s Logoffski II which we believe requires that they train Logoffski to level 5, then Advanced Log In Traps 5 first before they can use the Tech II Logoffski to escape bubble camps this way.
Julia Girl	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:02:00 - [93] omg, AAA met an LV ship! holy god save their soul! AAA Fast CTRL+Q! CTRL+Q!!!!
Ventosus x13 Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:05:00 - [94] ive seen this from every alliance. and btw yesterday a Rage and Terror pilot tried to save his Machariel logging, but Flumz and the gang killed him anyways. Im speaking for myself and not for x13 or the alliance. ............... I will win Eve
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:07:00 - [95] Since we moved to delve, nearly every single person we've killed has logged out to save his pod. Every single -A- kill has done this, and every single bob pet has done this. Not sure if I've seen bob do it yet. Shamis
Ace Frehley Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:13:00 - [96] Originally by: aimez Originally by: Ace Frehley Hey I¦m ace, I¦m naked atm, I¦m in AAA so i must log everytime I loose a ship Jesus stop throwing mud around, every allaince corp etc has loggers sadly. I¦m in a corp that hopefully kick loggers... and we in AAA... please explain that for me... /me hugles ace, feel the lub Me huugs back... I need more huggs Girljerms is more lethal then a fleet of 1000 Tempests Yeah I¦m nude, I¦m a swede and I¦m armed with bad jokes [url="http://www.
Lady 1mileachminute	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:26:00 - [97] Edited by: Lady 1mileachminute on 04/03/2007 20:23:36 Originally by: Ace Frehley Originally by: aimez Originally by: Ace Frehley Hey I¦m ace, I¦m naked atm, I¦m in AAA so i must log everytime I loose a ship Jesus stop throwing mud around, every allaince corp etc has loggers sadly. I¦m in a corp that hopefully kick loggers... and we in AAA... please explain that for me... /me hugles ace, feel the lub Me huugs back... I need more huggs Are bullets oke to? :D How are you doing mate? Wups wrong char , aimez that is
Ace Frehley Minmatar Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:30:00 - [98] First i need to figure who¦s alt you are, but I give you my standard answear :p I¦m happy, I¦m nakkid, not drunk atm I¦m spamming corpchat and local with my usuall non importent annoncment, corpmates preys that is only 1 of me and of course, smacking every bob-member in local for beeing a cheater :D So it is pretty norma, and you? Girljerms is more lethal then a fleet of 1000 Tempests Yeah I¦m nude, I¦m a swede and I¦m armed with bad jokes [url="http://www.
Helina Malinos Caldari Euro Traders	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:54:00 - [99] Originally by: Seph Res after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoffski tactics of logoffski voltera: specially to mention: kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u? Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min. proof or stfu? [ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven). nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are.. LMAO a russian complaining about log off. STFU as you muppets use log in traps thats just as bad. LMAO at this tread
Helina Malinos Caldari Euro Traders	Posted - 2007.03.04 20:54:00 - [100] Originally by: Seph Res after 4 times now of getting angry i now form a post about the logoffski tactics of logoffski voltera: specially to mention: kallysto: logged off twice when engaged 1 time logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible..the ship he tried to safe was a thorax...so is the isk worth that shame on u? Toshiro: logged off in engagement just 30 mins ago, got scrambled and webbed and aggressed by me and still disappeared after 1 min. proof or stfu? [ 2007.03.04 10:37:59 ] (notify) You have started trying to warp scramble T0SHIR0 [DE1TA]<-LV->(Raven). nice tactics lv now it makes me clear what lousy pvpers u are.. LMAO a russian complaining about log off. STFU as you muppets use log in traps thats just as bad. LMAO at this tread

Sharken Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:10:00 - [101] Originally by: Evil Thug Stop whining. Logging off to save your ship is perfectly legal. Log Off -> Ship Saved -> Enemy inflicted less isk damage to you -> Good to you -> Bad to him.
Sharken Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:10:00 - [102] Originally by: Evil Thug Stop whining. Logging off to save your ship is perfectly legal. Log Off -> Ship Saved -> Enemy inflicted less isk damage to you -> Good to you -> Bad to him.
cptblood Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:24:00 - [103] Logging of during fights seems only to be common place in the south Tbh,Its a rare thing in the north,Just something I have noticed on my travels in eve. In the north the only alliance I could say I have seen log off during fights is FLA and even then its nothing even close to the amount of times I have seen alliance like LV RA AAA KOS and Goons.The worst offenders where ASCN by a long way , but i think we no longer need worry about them. My point is I think it comes down to each alliances view on lame tactics like this,some dont have a problem with it so it is a common thing.Others dislike like it so are less likely to logoff.
cptblood Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:24:00 - [104] Logging of during fights seems only to be common place in the south Tbh,Its a rare thing in the north,Just something I have noticed on my travels in eve. In the north the only alliance I could say I have seen log off during fights is FLA and even then its nothing even close to the amount of times I have seen alliance like LV RA AAA KOS and Goons.The worst offenders where ASCN by a long way , but i think we no longer need worry about them. My point is I think it comes down to each alliances view on lame tactics like this,some dont have a problem with it so it is a common thing.Others dislike like it so are less likely to logoff.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:27:00 - [105] Originally by: cptblood Logging of during fights seems only to be common place in the south Tbh,Its a rare thing in the north. That would be because you are all NAP'd and don't have each other to fight! Myn
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:27:00 - [106] Originally by: cptblood Logging of during fights seems only to be common place in the south Tbh,Its a rare thing in the north. That would be because you are all NAP'd and don't have each other to fight! Myn
Cassius Hawkeye Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:31:00 - [107] Edited by: Cassius Hawkeye on 04/03/2007 21:28:38 Originally by: cptblood Fights seems only to be common place in the south Tbh,Its a rare thing in the north Fixed for ya. :::edit::: Damnt Mynas!
Cassius Hawkeye Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:31:00 - [108] Edited by: Cassius Hawkeye on 04/03/2007 21:28:38 Originally by: cptblood Fights seems only to be common place in the south Tbh,Its a rare thing in the north Fixed for ya. :::edit::: Damnt Mynas!
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:32:00 - [109] Originally by: RichThugster indeed AAA are slightly hypocritical, however AAA log off before a battle has began. these LV members have logged off specifically to save their ships. However to hear this from an AAA member is slightly amusing Actually they logged off all the time before a battle AND logged on all the time before a battle as well (logon traps etc)... This was RAT no AAA back then and they did it all the time. Do they do it still now? I dont know. Are they good at pvp? They are. Is this thread justified? No its not. Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.04 21:32:00 - [110] Originally by: RichThugster indeed AAA are slightly hypocritical, however AAA log off before a battle has began. these LV members have logged off specifically to save their ships. However to hear this from an AAA member is slightly amusing Actually they logged off all the time before a battle AND logged on all the time before a battle as well (logon traps etc)... This was RAT no AAA back then and they did it all the time. Do they do it still now? I dont know. Are they good at pvp? They are. Is this thread justified? No its not. Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.

TechnoMag Minmatar Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:03:00 - [111] Can Seph Res ask his coalition members how fleet comanders from RA / GS and other give the logoff command to an entire gang after they jump in a system with a large more camp??? U call Delta Team members lame for logging off in a raven or a thorax ... yeah its lame... yeah maybe they r noobs but i will not judge them when i saw this thing at my enemy's on a scale 10times much more. Just 3-4 days ago a gang of 7-8 people jumped in o-w and they all logged of when they saw our dictor pilot decloaking and putting a bubble on them and after that our fleet warping into gate ... they just logged of in cruiser's and 2 bs ... read again AN ENTIRE GANG OF 7 PEOPLE WHO COME TO US FOR PVP PURPOSE ... not one guy or 2 in travel mode or carebearing. i was fc for that lv gang, i had a covert who saw that gang jumping in a system near from dg/o-w and i sent a dictor cloaked on that gate ... theyr scout jumped, he saw the gate clear and others jumped and than a dictor uncloaked and deployed a bubble on them ... I dont have names for those people... and for a lot of time i stoped to retain those people... Delta team sent more than one hundred for this exploit in the last year and each time same response from gm's... we cant do nothing!!! And now u want to blame my own corpmates for using same tactics like u? btw check my signature (copied from EULA btw) and judge jv1 situation ... or other large engagements where our "honourable" enemy's took the system crashing the system! But those tactics are ok because is not LV ... So for once and for all .. that pilot and all LV pilots whos logging off r my alts .. so blame and shame me not entire alliance or an entire corp ... trow with all in me I dont care ... EULA 7. CONDUCT A. 1. You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System.
Firane 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.04 22:06:00 - [112] Edited by: Firane on 04/03/2007 22:04:54 Originally by: Ty'derian loooooooooooooool !! Outbreak is talking about logoffski on the Forum ? yesterday 5 of Outbreaks logoff in out bubbelcamp ! you should realy shut up on the forum Proof? -----
Voerung Gibson Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.03.04 23:26:00 - [113] Loggin in combat will most likely save your hide but not your honor. My respects goes to the pilots who fight, even if they are the underdogs. All you have in eve is the honor of your avatar, dont throw it away easilly.

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SNeAkYbRiT Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.05 00:23:00 - [115] So let me get this right....its ok to logoffski? Can someone please tell me whats the f**king point of playing the game if u are going to log everytime u see an enemy!!! I don't log if i encounter an enemy i either try and fight or run like hell. I think i got accussed of it once when i jumped into a system and lost connection and i did log in straight away dont know if this is classed as logoffski but i was mad as hell cos my isp was screwing up all the time, since then i have changed isp's and no more probs :) If logging is so cool why dont we all meet up in a system where we can all logoffski at the same time...dont know how the hell we'd figure who won but from what im reading we'd be all ubar at it. So why dont you all grow up and play the game, worse then a 10 year old who takes the football away cos u wouldnt pass it to him. Stand and fight or run like hell, don't ctrl q. We in black lance dont like it and if members where found doing it I'm sure our CEO would soon get rid of them. Since I've been with Black Lance ive never seen any of us log off at a camped gate, log off in bubbles....ive seen us run like hell a few times, but that can be as much fun as fighting sometimes. Yeah and BoB cheat but what the hell they need too. Hope to see ya soon, thats if ya dont logoffski on me :P NOTE: Above is my personal views, and not that of my corporation or alliance
Jonathan Peterbilt Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.03.05 00:47:00 - [116] Edited by: Jonathan Peterbilt on 05/03/2007 00:44:48 Originally by: n sx Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt Add every RA and Goon member to the list times 10...... Here's a vid for you too. EVE Offline by [TYC] End your point is .....? We all know who invented logoffski... Same people that saved your alliance and same people that made initial post. You are not saying they should be the only people allowed to exploit do you?
Pat Bello FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 00:57:00 - [117] Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT So let me get this right....its ok to logoffski? Can someone please tell me whats the snip. Do not bypass the profanity filter - Valorem point of playing the game if u are going to log everytime u see an enemy!!! I don't log if i encounter an enemy i either try and fight or run like hell. I think i got accussed of it once when i jumped into a system and lost connection and i did log in straight away dont know if this is classed as logoffski but i was mad as hell cos my isp was screwing up all the time, since then i have changed isp's and no more probs :) If logging is so cool why dont we all meet up in a system where we can all logoffski at the same time...dont know how the hell we'd figure who won but from what im reading we'd be all ubar at it. So why dont you all grow up and play the game, worse then a 10 year old who takes the football away cos u wouldnt pass it to him. Stand and fight or run like hell, don't ctrl q. We in black lance dont like it and if members where found doing it I'm sure our CEO would soon get rid of them. Since I've been with Black Lance ive never seen any of us log off at a camped gate, log off in bubbles....ive seen us run like hell a few times, but that can be as much fun as fighting sometimes. snip Please do not post allegations of cheating on the forums - Valorem Hope to see ya soon, thats if ya dont logoffski on me :P then tell that to your alliance mates then
Centerfold Caldari Underworld	Posted - 2007.03.05 01:09:00 - [118] Originally by: SNeAkYbRiT So let me get this right....its ok to logoffski? Can someone please tell me whats the snip. Do not bypass the profanity filter - Valorem point of playing the game if u are going to log everytime u see an enemy!!! I don't log if i encounter an enemy i either try and fight or run like hell. I think i got accussed of it once when i jumped into a system and lost connection and i did log in straight away dont know if this is classed as logoffski but i was mad as hell cos my isp was screwing up all the time, since then i have changed isp's and no more probs :) If logging is so cool why dont we all meet up in a system where we can all logoffski at the same time...dont know how the hell we'd figure who won but from what im reading we'd be all ubar at it. So why dont you all grow up and play the game, worse then a 10 year old who takes the football away cos u wouldnt pass it to him. Stand and fight or run like hell, don't ctrl q. We in black lance dont like it and if members where found doing it I'm sure our CEO would soon get rid of them. Since I've been with Black Lance ive never seen any of us log off at a camped gate, log off in bubbles....ive seen us run like hell a few times, but that can be as much fun as fighting sometimes. snip Please do not post allegations of cheating on the forums - Valorem Hope to see ya soon, thats if ya dont logoffski on me :P Since it offends you so much, why are you in AAA? RAT invented logowski and bunch of other dirty tactics like log in trap and POS spamming. Maybe you need to clean up your own house before coming to the forums and crying about people fallowing in your alliance footsteps.
Xeliya Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.05 01:22:00 - [119] Edited by: Xeliya on 05/03/2007 01:23:07 Originally by: Kusotarre Originally by: Marneous Calgar Also - RA and Goon do it all the time, RZR also do it - we've been camping a RZR nano gang thats been logged off in a dead end system for the last 10 hours and they just log in an alt when they get agro so they cant be probed. Stop whining and play like everyone else does, you cant expect one Alliance to not use the tactic if everyone else uses it. Get rid of your double standards. Two things: First, Logging off after jumping into a dead end system, when all other gates were camped with 3 carriers, a dread, and approx 12 battleships (to our support heavy gang of 14), is entirely different than logging out after jumping into a bubble - something none of us have ever done. Second, Your cloaker you had in this dead end system, at least the one I saw (Thys) is possibly the most incompetent cloaker I've ever witnessed. I was in my sleipnir, at a planet, for at least 20 minutes. He used a fathom probe, couldn't find me. Tried the fathom again, didn't find me. He then used a snoop probe, destroyed it, and cloaked. I assume he found me. I waited another 5 minutes, no one came in, and our chance to escape came along, so I left system. Nice try, but no. Uh we told him not to goto you because for all we know it can be a log in trap. Mainly Nano Gang+Logging = Lame so we didn't put it past you that there was a good chance of a lame login trap. We play on our terms not terms of someone fit to run. ----------
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.05 01:46:00 - [120] As lame as logoffski is, CCP has fully endorsed it by doing nothing about it for over a year.

Ernest Graefenberg Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 01:59:00 - [121] Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 05/03/2007 01:24:48 Uh we told him not to goto you because for all we know it can be a log in trap. Mainly Nano Gang+Logging = Lame so we didn't put it past you that there was a good chance of a lame login trap. We play on our terms not the terms of someone fit to run. You probed him out for the sole purpose of being afraid ? Well, that certainly makes alot of sense. I'm also still trying to figure out this 'nanogang with 1400 Tempests' thing. Or was it the fact that our tacklers did not fail ? I mean jesus, you lost a fight although you had us 3:1 outnumbered in everything under the sun - cool, it happens, kudos for bringing it. Was good times. But what's up with the massive denial ? Jumping into a deadend, warping off the gate to make sure everything is cricket in case you would have wanted to actually chase, then logging without aggression is no arcane or secret mechanic. Making excuses isn't improving your teamwork or morale. It's just making you more bitter and incompetent.
Xeliya Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.05 02:42:00 - [122] Edited by: Xeliya on 05/03/2007 02:42:56 Edited by: Xeliya on 05/03/2007 02:40:24 Originally by: Ernest Graefenberg Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 05/03/2007 01:24:48 Uh we told him not to goto you because for all we know it can be a log in trap. Mainly Nano Gang+Logging = Lame so we didn't put it past you that there was a good chance of a lame login trap. We play on our terms not the terms of someone fit to run. You probed him out for the sole purpose of being afraid ? Well, that certainly makes alot of sense. I'm also still trying to figure out this 'nanogang with 1400 Tempests' thing. Or was it the fact that our tacklers did not fail ? I mean jesus, you lost a fight although you had us 3:1 outnumbered in everything under the sun - cool, it happens, kudos for bringing it. Was good times. But what's up with the massive denial ? Jumping into a deadend, warping off the gate to make sure everything is cricket in case you would have wanted to actually chase, then logging without aggression is no arcane or secret mechanic. Making excuses isn't improving your teamwork or morale. It's just making you more bitter and incompetent. Uh actually its more like we won, RAZOR didn't lose much but all your friends lost pretty much ever ship and nicely fitted too unlike the few kills you guys got on us. The ones who died on our side deserved it as they were told to warp out long before you guys were on top of them. And our scout can do what he wants he probed ya's to give us an option if we wanted it but we decided no. How if not jumping into a possible login trap being afraid? It's called playing smart. We were sniper fit and 90% of you gang was close range nano other then 2 Tempest's which is why you guys couldn't get out of the system. And actually it was even numbers till a gang that happen to be passing by showed up when you guys were trying to get out of the system. Either way e-peen arguments are lame, we did our goal of messing up as much of you guys as we could and as a bonus had ya log in a dead end system for some to come out 1 at a time and bit the dust. ----------
Dao 2 Suicidal-Kushan-Pirates	Posted - 2007.03.05 03:10:00 - [123] yeah i think log on and log off tactics are lame and all and i agree its pretty sad that lv do it but honestly AAA look in the mirror ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Vandervecken Smith Athanasius Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.05 03:42:00 - [124] Originally by: Sharken Originally by: Evil Thug Stop whining. Logging off to save your ship is perfectly legal. Log Off -> Ship Saved -> Enemy inflicted less isk damage to you -> Good to you -> Bad to him. Look, you can say a lot of things about ET, but he is consistent. While random -A- members whine about other people logging off, ET sees it how it is. He's made it very clear in the past that if it can be done, and doesn't breach the EULA, there's nothing wrong with doing it. That's his position, and you've got to respect that.
Centerfold Caldari Underworld	Posted - 2007.03.05 03:49:00 - [125] Originally by: Vandervecken Smith Originally by: Sharken Originally by: Evil Thug Stop whining. Logging off to save your ship is perfectly legal. Log Off -> Ship Saved -> Enemy inflicted less isk damage to you -> Good to you -> Bad to him. Look, you can say a lot of things about ET, but he is consistent. While random -A- members whine about other people logging off, ET sees it how it is. He's made it very clear in the past that if it can be done, and doesn't breach the EULA, there's nothing wrong with doing it. That's his position, and you've got to respect that. That's fine and dandy, but then he should tell his noob alliance m8s to STFU about it when others do it to them.
Anderson Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.05 03:54:00 - [126] oh FFS stop the whining please? Go play eve! Seriously, ccp should just shut off the Eve-O forums for the length of the war. oy. You guys whine more than kindergartners and about stupider things than spitting on the playground.
Apple Boy Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 05:02:00 - [127] Originally by: Djerin Originally by: Seph Res logged off with aggro and disappeared 1 min after from scanner...no idea how this is possible.. I've seen this a couple of time too. It's a petitionable exploit. They are not exactly logging of but having a second computer in character selection screen. When they need to bolt they just hit "enter the game" on one of those characters. Don't know if it is the same character you need to login but the ship of the formerly logged in will instantly disappear. File a petition. Don't whine about it on forums. don't know if this was posted earlier as I didn't read through all 4 pages, but if you log off or get disconnected while scrammed, you don't warp off, you'll login right in the battle. I know, my wireless connection dropped once in a fight. Then again, I logged in as soon as it came back and finished the guy off
Kusotarre Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 06:23:00 - [128] Originally by: Xeliya Uh actually its more like we won, RAZOR didn't lose much but all your friends lost pretty much ever ship and nicely fitted too unlike the few kills you guys got on us. The ones who died on our side deserved it as they were told to warp out long before you guys were on top of them. The guys of yours who died couldn't warp out because they were inside dictor bubbles. I'm sure your corpmates appreciate being called morons, though, when it was your terrible "everyone get to gate at random ranges!" fleetcommanding tactics that let us not lose a single ship outside of your hilarious 13 hour gate camp. Originally by: Xeliya And our scout can do what he wants he probed ya's to give us an option if we wanted it but we decided no. How if not jumping into a possible login trap being afraid? It's called playing smart. We were sniper fit and 90% of you gang was close range nano other then 2 Tempest's which is why you guys couldn't get out of the system. So to recap: Fleeing while outnumbered = lame and exploit and omfgfail, but not engaging due to the mere possibility of facing at most a force half your size is smart? Thanks for the clarification. As for our fleet composition, you are, sadly for us, wrong. If we were in a fleet of nanoships, we'd likely have performed better and been able to escape after. As it was, though, we had 4 or 5 long range BS, 2 nanophoons (1 of which a ghettophoon), a nanosleipnir, waaaay too many short range, slow battlecruisers who didn't get to do anything the whole time, and 2 dictors and I think 1 or 2 ceptors. Originally by: Xeliya And actually it was even numbers till a gang that happen to be passing by showed up when you guys were trying to get out of the system. It was not ever even numbers. We were managing to keep you separated fairly well across the 80au warps, but that's not our fault. Originally by: Xeliya Either way e-peen arguments are lame, we did our goal of messing up as much of you guys as we could and as a bonus had ya log in a dead end system for some to come out 1 at a time and bit the dust. This is the best part of your post. AFAIK, you didn't actually kill any of us until hour nine of your gatecamp. At hour four, I was logged in (laughing at aforementioned cloaker), and got a buddy in a phoon to come help by distracting you guys off the gate. He killed an NPCing raven 50au from your gate camp, and you didn't leave to help. We then killed two of your inties (apparently the only ships you put T2 on, oddly), and when you left two of us escaped the deadend. Then we roamed around, and while you sat on gate till hours after DT, we killed ships with a combined worth of at least triple what our entire fleet was composed of. Honestly, joking and taunting aside, here's what I think of the long gate camp you guys pulled. It ws kinda boring, yeah. I logged off, played some Supreme Commander, logged back on, you were still there, I logged on an alt and NPCed a bit, played some more SupCom. Camping gates is often a necessity, but it's pretty boring (for the people camping, not for the people logged off and doing other things) just to kill some guys who made you upset. Of course, do whatever you will. Maybe you were having beers and laughs over TS, I dunno. It's just more like mining than PVP, IMO. It's sad the there was no smacktalk at all in local, but it cropped up here. I won't post anymore.
Zangief Suikoi Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.05 06:33:00 - [129] Kettle Pot Black
Dao 2 Suicidal-Kushan-Pirates	Posted - 2007.03.05 06:35:00 - [130] Originally by: Anderson oh FFS stop the whining please? Go play eve! Seriously, ccp should just shut off the Eve-O forums for the length of the war. oy. You guys whine more than kindergartners and about stupider things than spitting on the playground. ffs ur whining urself idiot, i ain't part o this war so don't think im bein a ***** against yer side but ffs if u dont want to see it, guess what DON'T FREAKIN READ IT christ whats wrong with u heres a past example that fits in with u Someone told me the song was to loud on his computer now what else could i say then? "I don't know what to tell you other then to turn it down :\|" and u no what, that solved everything. yeah thats how stupid ur whining is ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal

Dao 2 Suicidal-Kushan-Pirates	Posted - 2007.03.05 06:36:00 - [131] Originally by: Zangief Suikoi Kettle Pot Black exactly :\| ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Xeliya Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.05 06:48:00 - [132] Originally by: Kusotarre Originally by: Xeliya Uh actually its more like we won, RAZOR didn't lose much but all your friends lost pretty much ever ship and nicely fitted too unlike the few kills you guys got on us. The ones who died on our side deserved it as they were told to warp out long before you guys were on top of them. The guys of yours who died couldn't warp out because they were inside dictor bubbles. I'm sure your corpmates appreciate being called morons, though, when it was your terrible "everyone get to gate at random ranges!" fleetcommanding tactics that let us not lose a single ship outside of your hilarious 13 hour gate camp. They were told to warp down to the main fleet but did not listen, and this was before you were on top of them, I also did not call them morons nor would I call any of them that ever. They have little experience and the best experience is the harshest (losing their ships). And ya we didn't get any RAZOR ships in the gate camp because any that came though could do 5km/s or more and get back to the gate. As I said you friends have a very different story. And as I said this argument is pointless, talking sense into people who fly 90% nano ships is hard. There should have been no smack here till out scout was made fun of. He did what he was suppose to, give us options. ----------
nickycakes Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.05 07:07:00 - [133] and the award for thread irony of the year goes to... Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 10:24:00 - [134] Originally by: Seph Res some stuff Your alliance was founded by a corp that wrote the book on logging off dude, its called 'logoffski' for a reason you know. Thank you for cheering me up tho dude! Eve vs WoW
Masochistic Cannibal Amarr 3M Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.05 10:42:00 - [135] Originally by: nickycakes and the award for thread irony of the year goes to... Ummm two wrongs dont make a right.... If the Op or his whole damn alliance logs off on a daily basis to avoid death doesn't make it "ok" Cannibal I eat babies ! [Hauling services available~ Contact ingame]
TheArchJudge Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.05 10:51:00 - [136] Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal Originally by: nickycakes and the award for thread irony of the year goes to... Ummm two wrongs dont make a right.... If the Op or his whole damn alliance logs off on a daily basis to avoid death doesn't make it "ok" Cannibal No one says it is ok, LV will continue to add members that do this to the hall of shame. OP tryed to flame an entire alliance and he got shown the mirror. Simply smacktacular

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:39:00 - [137] Click. This is not the place to discuss logging off and the thread only serves as a flaimbait. CCP have stated it not against the rules at the moment, but they are going to do something to resolve it. Untill then im afraid its goign to remain a legitamte tactic. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us \| Wikipedia Entry They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long



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