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Ealiom Blackhole Entry Point	Posted - 2007.03.05 10:44:00 - [1] Ive noticing an alarming increase in the amount of forum whining and attacks on CCP as of late. Last nights server hiccup was handled extremely well, Sharkbait posted updates on the situation and the problem was ultimately resolved. However I felt bad reading his final comment before he unlocked the thread. "unsticking and unlocking. flame away if you must" These guys must be under some serious pressure up there and the sheer amount of whining in the forums not to mention the hacker attacks must be causing more than a few sleepless nights. So with the forums full of negative threads i thought one positive thread wouldnt harm anyone. I have faith in CCP. I have faith in a developer who goes against current trends to develop a game 'we' want and I have faith that they will continue developing this game into something that shows everyone else just how to do it! I just hope they realise that not all pilots and not all forumites are whingers. Keep up the good work guys. If anyone agrees post a Ye! for all others please post in one of the other many moaning threads there are plenty of them. Have you seen Oveur lately the man doesnt look to well Executioner Model Blackbird Model
Splagada Minmatar Tides of Silence	Posted - 2007.03.05 10:46:00 - [2] if people didnt care they wouldnt yell a perfectly civil official board would prove the game sucks ------ Relaxed corp recruiting
SonOTassadar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.03.05 10:53:00 - [3] Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 05/03/2007 10:46:17 if people didnt care they wouldnt yell a perfectly civil official board would prove the game sucks Errr...no it wouldn't. Personally I think the general forums need to be a lot stricter about what you can post. People btch, pss, moan, flame, troll, etc. -- there are constructive and civil ways to share a complaint. ----- Griffin -- 100,000 ISK ECM - Multispectral Jammer Is -- 20,000 ISK Standard Missile Launcher Is -- 10,000 ISK War target sobbing over losing a fight in his T2 fitted Battleship -- priceless
Marshall Knight Ardent Industrial Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.03.05 10:54:00 - [4] I will second this they do a great job and yes there are problems due to the server hiccup yesterday i lost a domi and had no insurance money so cant replace it but was told hopefully after dt i will have the insurance money and if i dont i should contact them again yes it was annoying for me but hey its a game :) and people need to start treating it as such the developers do a great job under sometimes a lot of pressure keep up the good work guys and like the op said were not all whiners :) THis game is managed welll compared to some and i always see the same faces moaning on the forums which makes it look like the whole community is moaning theres 30k people who play this game but i only tend to see the same 20 or so posters moaning :)
Ealiom Blackhole Entry Point	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:00:00 - [5] Originally by: Splagada you cannot try to create passion on one side and prevent it on other side I'd whole heatedly agree with you if it werent for the lack of good response from the community. Whiners are generally a hundred times louder than anyone else and i understand there is no reason to post how happy you are. But lately it has been a joke and I can only imagine how much pressure these guys must be under. So I wanted to give them my support. Executioner Model Blackbird Model
Scilent Enigma Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:03:00 - [6] /Signed Indeed, my mind boggles at the thought of administering a database the size of EVEs. A lot of hard working and dedicated people working in CCP.
Stitcher Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:06:00 - [7] It saddened me on the "hiccup" thread to see that the fifth or sixth response from a player was somebody whining about how some two hundred BoB had managed to log in before he had, and intimating that this was somehow CCP's fault. People are taking this grudge more than a little too far, I think. ***
Kyo Makamoto	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:06:00 - [8] Yes, I agree - Sharkbait was very prompt with the info for the players. This does calm a lot of nerves especially for those of us in the middle of large battles when the server went down. Also props to the devs for getting it sorted out so quickly. But the many comments on TS/Vent in the various corp channels about the locked server and 8 BoB logged in FIXing things while the rest of us wait (even if good natured fun) shows what is on a lot of peoples minds at the present time.
Ovno ConSyquence The Plebians	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:06:00 - [9] /signed CCP do a great job and i just wish all the whinners would stfu
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:13:00 - [10] Originally by: SonOTassadar Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 05/03/2007 10:46:17 if people didnt care they wouldnt yell a perfectly civil official board would prove the game sucks Errr...no it wouldn't. Personally I think the general forums need to be a lot stricter about what you can post. People btch, pss, moan, flame, troll, etc. -- there are constructive and civil ways to share a complaint. I agree. It is possible to show strong opinions without using bad language, general trolling and all-round flaming against the devs or against each other. I know lot of people care very much about this game. But think of this: would you really really really flame the people behind this fantastic game? Dont you think that your whining might put them off track instead of on track? Whining creates bad mood. and people in bad mood creates bad games. And when the game gets nerfed, the temper rises among the players. and then the devs get even more sour and nerfs everything! BUT! But if people from the start did give constructive arguments and encouragements, the devs might not get into bad mood, and while they are in the good mood they creates a even better game, which again makes us want to throw a firework to celebrate the devs instead of swinging the pitchforks and lightning the torches! just my 2 isk ofcource! Originally by: Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
Kihnada	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:15:00 - [11] Try playing games like WoW - where server hiccup means 8 hours up to 3 days offline. Or things like lag mean that after 3 or so weeks of yelling you get forum response like - We are aware of it. Not to mention Vanguard - where hicup means youre comp will probably blow up in youre face. Granted I am new to EVE, but been playing MMO for a while now. First impression of customer feedback was WOW - this is AWSOME ! As a noob - ofc noob chat what you strat using after tutorial and seeing and CCP employee in there taking care of noob questions, whole new ball game. Database error - and you see info about it in plain sight when loging in, a SHOCK. Ussualy companies just inform you servers are down, put fingers in theire ears and sing LALALLA- I CANT HEAR YOU !. All in all- Im new around here, but from what I see, customeres are pampered here far more then in other games ...
s4mp3r0r ZiTek Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:19:00 - [12] I actually feel they are handling the hardware issues better than a year or more ago. It's the other stuff i'm not pleased with. Quote: I wish i could tell you more but I was sworn to absolute secrecy!
Wild Rho Amarr Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:24:00 - [13] Have to agree with the OP. The attitudes from some of the people here recently have been a disgrace. It seems some people have forgotten that they can simply cancel their subs and walk away if they are really THAT bothered by everything. There's criticism and then there's just being out right obnoxious. More recently the latter seems to be becoming the norm.
Stitcher Caldari J.I.T. Enterprises Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:43:00 - [14] Originally by: Kihnada All in all- Im new around here, but from what I see, customeres are pampered here far more then in other games ... I think the term you're looking for is "spoiled rotten" ***
000Hunter000 Gallente Magners Marauders	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:45:00 - [15] Sometimes i get the feeling that only the whine threads get any response at all. Either from pro or anti whiners. if someone does post a serious question it gets snowed under and ends up 3 pages further in a matter of hours. I noticed i'm reading the general forum less and less (mebbe it is time ccp renamed it the general whine forum hehe ) Resized tag... again... hope this pleases the tag ninjas from ccp... again :p
Di Jiensai Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:49:00 - [16] Agreed, although, i'm running a little bit low on faith at the moment after loosing yet another ship to a nos domi. CCP Please, Please, with sugar on top, let me fly ships again without cap injectors. Just HATE it, if i HAVE to fit these suckers, but at the current state of PvP, its fit a Cap booster or die. i hate it. so, please do fix nos. P.S. Did i mention that i hate cap injectors? P.P.S and nos? P.P.P.S Please fix. P.P.P.P.S and good job in general, but please fix nos.
Pelsson Amarr Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.	Posted - 2007.03.05 11:58:00 - [17] they are doing a great job. I will buy each of them a beer downtown, IF they can warp scramble me at the clubs next weekend.
Nex Angelus Caldari Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Tre Kroner	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:01:00 - [18] I would have to agree with the OP. There's waaaaay to much whining on these forums.
Jastra Gallente Gallente Venture Inc	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:08:00 - [19] As with most online games, this game would be much better without the general discussion forum.
Ealiom Blackhole Entry Point	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:09:00 - [20] @Nex Angelus My god man I almost had a fit trying to pronounce your corporation. Thanks for the posts guys, tis a good thing to show CCP our support. There should be some type of Dev relief fund. Something stressed Devs can dip into to find some solace. Like a player funded beer tank. I fear though after the last few months it would be bled dry in minutes. Executioner Model Blackbird Model
Gilbert Drillerson DarkStar 1 Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:09:00 - [21] CCP definetely deserves a lot of praise for eve, not only for comming up with the concept originally but also for the implementation and for the first couple of years. I have been playing eve for a little over three years and I have to say that I am not 100% happy with the way the game has taken in the last year or so. Mainly I think CCP could have handled a number of growth related issues better: Petition response times have risen from days to months A lot of gameplay related tuning have been done to help server performance and stability, I especially HATE the huge leadership nerf that happend with Kali, basically HUGE impact gameplay wise and no impact to server stability... quite the opposite. Same can be said about contracts replacing Escrow, in some respects an improvement but at the cost of overview, I can no longer find anything or go shopping for fun. Kali content was cut back to VERY little compared to what was planned, the patch was a stability disaster and many VERY old bugs was left in game while new ones was introduced. I could go on but i guess most of us knows all this anyway :) I LOVE Eve and CCP, I spend my hard earned cash on more accounts than i care to admit and I will probably continue to do so.... but I do hope CCP will find their way again... as it is right now I feel a little abandoned to be honest. Dont get mad - Get even
Joebarchuck	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:19:00 - [22] CCP is handling many issues well but for sure some problems are rising and recurring. Also, many parts of the game is getting old and no matter how much I like Eve, I will quit is new graphics are not coming this year. We also need a lot of new options, features, mods, etc... So, thank you CCP for the great game but get back to work.
Nero Ya'ng Caldari YaFa Empires	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:33:00 - [23] This Game Rocks !!!! i really love the game. Islanders rock :P
Redbad Minmatar Be Inspired Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:34:00 - [24] I wholeheartidly agree with you Ealiom! A lot of posting on these forums is way out of ordinairy communication civil people would do in their normal lives (at least in my surroundings). CCP/ISD has my blessings to go a bit more "Paladin" on these threads. join us today!
Inquisitor Berthez Arcana Imperii Ltd. The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.03.05 12:55:00 - [25] I love this game and I really hate to see things I love get screwed up so badly so regularly. I will give CCP a break when they give us a break. No sooner, no later. .
CaptianBlack Minmatar Nightmare Holdings Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 13:00:00 - [26] there are some things i dislike about the game. there are some things i love about the game. but the whining as almost comming across now as personal attacks,but i've been playing for over 3yrs now,so CCP must be doing something right to keep myself and over 100k others playing... if you don't like what there doing, then voice your opinion on the forums, but try to do it in a constructive manner. remember, manners cost nothing. i used to read the forums everyday, catching up on all the latest news and info, now i hardly read them at all.. what's that old saying: you can please all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but never all of the people all of the time... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/c/capblak.htm
Urias Donnan	Posted - 2007.03.05 13:01:00 - [27] I love this game really. No one is forcing no one to play, so if you think something sucks, then quit. Oh, wait, you can't cause you are addicted. So, stop whineing about the game. Only thing that I don't like about CCP ppl is wrong informing. If you can't fix it till 15.00 or something, then say it's gonna be back in 15.00, not 12,20, then 12.35, then 13.30... Yes, I am addicted and I wanna play this great game.
Philip Jones Gallente Crystal Ship	Posted - 2007.03.05 13:02:00 - [28] I also have faith in CCP and the brilliant game they have produced. The game will be constantly in development and therefore there will always be a problems as they seek to make the game better/ add more content to the game. All i would like to see though is realistic estimates for when the server will be up and ready. Ladt night was another example, as is today. Why say 'See you in 20 minutes', if that is not a reasonable response time for the server to be up? I would rather them say 2 hours, or 3 hours etc. This would give themselves more time and less pressure they put on themselves; and leave me managing my time better than coming back to seee if the server is up. This is not a whine. All companies must give themselves a realistic time plan to do something in and this would stop more whines about people not having a longer skill on, etc....
Heliocon	Posted - 2007.03.05 13:35:00 - [29] Amen to this I love eve its a great and unique game. Really the customer support and stuff is pretty good I havent waited any longer then 3-4 days for any petition info ect. Whinning and trolling wont help here it only discourages people we shoudl all keep a positive civil and helpful attitude and if we do that things will get done. Show me another game with the scope complexity excitment and fun of eve and I will love you so far I have found non. Keep up the work devs!!! PS great thread OP.
Alski Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.05 13:51:00 - [30] /signed @ the OP. i'm getting sick of all the whineing, it used to be amuseing but now its just getting boreing. -

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