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Lecram Xores Delta team Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.06 16:41:00 - [31] What's with the laugh at the end?? Retarded ... You get thrills because you killed some frigs and ruined a event, that's pirating? I repeat, retarded.
Kehmor Caldari The Movement	Posted - 2007.03.06 16:42:00 - [32] Edited by: Kehmor on 06/03/2007 16:38:43 Originally by: Dionisius Originally by: Kehmor Originally by: Verone Pretty much says it all for me. It's because of people like these that AURORA events also get set back or halted, that the ISD team organise. Idiots who want nothing more than to wreck an organised event that was created for the enjoyment of the community. Don't bother to try to talk to me about defining piracy, I've been pirating for 3 years now, and this is not piracy, it's plain out idiocy. This is deffinately piracy and can even be fit in with roleplay. Pirates destroying an organised event, looting it and using suprise to cause havoc. All this is there. The point? Publicity, when someone receives a comms invite from these guys in te future they will be struck with fear and more obliged to pay. As for Aurora events the reason they get et back or halted is they suck. When kehmor or viceroy or digitalcommunist hear about a haule travelling through space and are offered a chance to "escort" it their in game personalities would jump at this idea. If Aurora accomodated more for all sides of the game this wouldn't be a problem. When ISD make their events two sided (I.E. let the pirates join the other side, or they create pirate exclusive events I'll be more inclined not to grief them. Don't bother to try to talk to me about defining piracy, I've been pirating for 3 years now, and this is definately piracy, it's plain out hilarious. Just because an event "sucks" in your eyes, does not meen it sucks for others. Again wrecking an event is pure stupidity, not piracy. the event doesn't suck when i "wreck" it. Infact all I am doing is acting in character
Tecam Hund Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.03.06 18:37:00 - [33] EVE needs real villains. I'd say more, but Verone already did it.
Ki An Gallente The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:04:00 - [34] Pretty lame tbh. Nice music in the video though. /Ki Haven't got one yet? Beware: I'm a "viscous pirate"!
Rooker Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:35:00 - [35] Yarring? Where? All I saw was another carebear in a stabbed up battleship jumping T1-fitted T1 frigs. Look me up after they nerf that nanodomi. I'll give you a free box of Kleenex. -- Inertial Stabilizers and Nanofibers - The new Warp Core Stab. Carebears can PvP again \o/ --
Captain Jaikken	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:37:00 - [36] Originally by: Arekhon Originally by: Na'Thuul Edited by: Na''Thuul on 06/03/2007 07:06:58 You killed a few t1 frigs, I am very impressed no no no...you don't see it clearly my young grasshopper.. it is the spoiling of a frig tourny that is right up a pirates alley A pirate wouldn't give a rats ass about it since there was no real profit to be made in killing t1 frigs. What you mean is that it's right up an antisocial griefers alley...
Kehmor Caldari The Movement	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:40:00 - [37] Originally by: Captain Jaikken Originally by: Arekhon Originally by: Na'Thuul Edited by: Na''Thuul on 06/03/2007 07:06:58 You killed a few t1 frigs, I am very impressed no no no...you don't see it clearly my young grasshopper.. it is the spoiling of a frig tourny that is right up a pirates alley A pirate wouldn't give a rats ass about it since there was no real profit to be made in killing t1 frigs. What you mean is that it's right up an antisocial griefers alley... black beard wasn't always concerned about profit either, he often liked to make an impression.
space hobo Gallente DIE WITH HONOUR	Posted - 2007.03.06 19:51:00 - [38] Originally by: Lecram Xores What's with the laugh at the end?? Retarded ... You get thrills because you killed some frigs and ruined a event, that's pirating? I repeat, retarded. tell you what lecram record your self laughing and post it in this thread for every one to hear and we can debate who sounds more retarded ok ------------------- 400x120@24000 bytes Maximum please. - Acario Vito its not my fault that noobs PC's cant handle small image's - space hobo
Stakhanov Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.03.06 20:43:00 - [39] Originally by: Verone Edited by: Verone on 06/03/2007 12:54:02 Originally by: Zirth But this is simply unfair stupid griefing, you ruined a frig contest, your intentions weren't to gain profit from this, you simply wanted to ruin a contest and ruin people's day. Pretty much says it all for me. It's because of people like these that AURORA events also get set back or halted, that the ISD team organise. Idiots who want nothing more than to wreck an organised event that was created for the enjoyment of the community. Don't bother to try to talk to me about defining piracy, I've been pirating for 3 years now, and this is not piracy, it's plain out idiocy. You're not even an outlaw , what's your credibility as a pirate If Eve taught me something , it's that fundamentalist attitudes are rather pointless. It's bad enough to resist the pressure from metagaming , without having to stick to a rigid RP set or rules , let alone enforce it on other people of your trade. Piracy isn't all about ISK , or even gaining ISK from others. It's about letting your predatory instincts loose. Are cats to blame when they don't eat the mice they caught ? It is silly to pretend to have a "neutral" pirate character. Pirates are the bad guys. They enjoy nice loot from the wrecks of their victims , or the ISK they have extorted because they acquired it at another's expense. I'm not particulary flattered if I am given 1 million by some random generous / silly person , but receiving it from the helpless pilot under my crosshair makes my day. I am disappointed by how out of context organized events can be. It is up to them to catch up with the current shape of the Eve world , because surely it won't adapt to arbitrary roleplay guidelines. As for the frigate contest - how hard would it be to organize it in secure alliance space ? Lowsec is asking for trouble.
Liang Nuren AEGIS LEGION	Posted - 2007.03.06 21:27:00 - [40] As (some of) the pirates amongst us would say: "Yarr, welcome to lowsec! ;-P" Seriously, lowsec is lowsec. I've always found lowsec more dangerous than 0.0, by leaps and bounds.
Amberly Coteaz Amarr Null Horizon	Posted - 2007.03.06 22:19:00 - [41] Originally by: Rooker Yarring? Where? All I saw was another carebear in a stabbed up battleship jumping T1-fitted T1 frigs. Look me up after they nerf that nanodomi. I'll give you a free box of Kleenex.
FooB2 Caldari Northern Intelligence Artificial Intelligence.	Posted - 2007.03.06 22:23:00 - [42] Unfortunatley for Verone, i do have to disagree with him on crashing game events. although i'll try my best to actually make a constructive argument. Crashing events is perfectly fine, it allows for the roleplay side of things to be as dynamic as people expect from this game when they join. outcomes shouldn't be decided before the event has began, but moreso they should be "expected". For instance, in my section of low sec there are quite a few events in which an event corporation escorts a bestower through low sec and theres usually a group of people following it, RPing away and whatnot. now, im a pirate, and i dont personally care for roleplaying or roleplayers, and i choose to attack the event corporation and its cargo. I succeed in my task, i get a damn good fight out of it. When everyone goes home the story was that "while we were escorting the refugees, we were ambushed by a fleet of scoundrel pirates and the convoy was destroyed". It makes for a good event, and a good time. i didnt do it for the RP, i did it for the usual thrill of PVP, maybe a killmail or two and the possible contents of the bestower (like all real pirates) but everyone gets what they want out of it. However, there is a line. Theres a difference between crashing an event and taking two battleships into a player-organised frigate tournament and then claiming your "awesomeness" for it. I personally dont think you did it for the killmails, the thrill of PVP (pitting battleships against frigates pretty much proves this one) nor do i think you did it out of sheer grief, but simply so you could make the forum post you have done bragging about your "achievments". maybe you're looking for respect from pirates? you wont get it from me. and the chances are you wont get it from any other respected pirates either. I'm not saying i wouldnt have attacked the event, because i would have. but i most definatley would have done it for the thrill of PVP and taken in a ship or two that wouldve made it a challenge. probably a single assault frigate. and i most definatley wouldn't have posted my "awesomeness" for doing it. This is what we look like when you jump into our camp.
Verone Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.03.06 23:15:00 - [43] Originally by: Stakhanov Originally by: Verone Edited by: Verone on 06/03/2007 12:54:02 Originally by: Zirth But this is simply unfair stupid griefing, you ruined a frig contest, your intentions weren't to gain profit from this, you simply wanted to ruin a contest and ruin people's day. Pretty much says it all for me. It's because of people like these that AURORA events also get set back or halted, that the ISD team organise. Idiots who want nothing more than to wreck an organised event that was created for the enjoyment of the community. Don't bother to try to talk to me about defining piracy, I've been pirating for 3 years now, and this is not piracy, it's plain out idiocy. You're not even an outlaw , what's your credibility as a pirate You're not up to date on current events, you might want to play the game and check up on what people are doing before you actively try and flame them on the forums. Originally by: Dionisius Just because an event "sucks" in your eyes, does not meen it sucks for others. Again wrecking an event is pure stupidity, not piracy. Exactly. Destroying an event in character would be a valid reason if there was profit for a pirate to be gained, or if there were in character motivations, for example a merc contract aganist a faction, or a caldari loyalist corp attempting to flatten a gurista raiding party. Disruption of a player event like this, then posting with this attitude on the forums (i.e. omgOLoLoLOLoL We R TEH WREk EVENTZ AND KILl TEH NUBZ) is plain out disrupting an event, for no intention in character, and simply to grief the people taking part. No excuse, and no "omg, i'm a pirate in character" crap holds water. NEWEST MOVIE : VETO FOR HIRE
Dark Flare Caldari Corpus PCG	Posted - 2007.03.07 01:49:00 - [44] Er, why the hell is everyone at each others throats? This is a game. And, to be honest, it was quite funny what he did, and it WAS piracy. Bit of a rash decision by the guy to say he's never going to run a frig tourney again though, it's not the end of the world. Just be more careful who you let in next time. And perhaps gang warp everyone back out when someone starts hitting the defense ships? Dark Flare - Corpus PCG
Sun Win Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.03.07 02:07:00 - [45] They should hire Veto to run protection for the next one. New to Eve? Learn to Fly - join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Amberly Coteaz Amarr Null Horizon	Posted - 2007.03.07 09:33:00 - [46] Originally by: Dark Flare Er, why the hell is everyone at each others throats? This is a game. And, to be honest, it was quite funny what he did, and it WAS piracy. Bit of a rash decision by the guy to say he's never going to run a frig tourney again though, it's not the end of the world. Just be more careful who you let in next time. And perhaps gang warp everyone back out when someone starts hitting the defense ships? The guy runs frigate contests in low-sec all the time. Generally they are great fun and even when the odd pirate scans us down and jumps in. Although I think this is the first time someone has jumped in a nanoBS killing as much as possible, just in order to fraps it jump on the forums and scream "Hey! I R Eve's most awsomist pirate. Come help me stroke my epeen lol." I see through the OP's disguse Oh and smartbombs ftw
Drasked North Face Force	Posted - 2007.03.07 15:10:00 - [47] Did the pirates in question had fun doing this?? if so... EVERYONE STFU?
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2007.03.07 15:25:00 - [48] You forgot the most important details: how much profit you made? Would reckon both RL and in-game piracy is mostly defined through their desire to get profit/loot through violent means. At least I hope the main goal and motivation was your own benefit, instead of the magnitude of how much grief you can cause to others. -Lasse
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.03.07 15:48:00 - [49] Originally by: Haitchi Allamut What exactly is the difference between wrecking an event and killing a miningop? If you REALLY think about it, not much. tbh that's just silly. For a start frig events take a fair bit of planning and don't happen very often. u can go mining at any time at all. also ppl don't mine because they actually enjoy it (or at least i hope they don't) they do it to make money. the tourny is actually fun to take part it. i don't blame you for doing this and don't think it was wrong of you as u can do what u want tbh. But i have some issues about taking enjoyment from it. i would think ppl would show a little but of respect for organised events. meh. but if u enjoyed it then i guess it's ok. DE
Verillion Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.07 16:13:00 - [50] Edited by: Verillion on 07/03/2007 16:10:57 Edited by: Verillion on 07/03/2007 16:10:43 Originally by: Drasked Did the pirates in question had fun doing this?? if so... EVERYONE STFU? QFT. The majority of this thread is bashing the OP because people are sayings it's wrong and not pirate-like to smash up some T1 frigs in a stupid contest. If it was in my neck of the woods, I don't care what ships they were in, I'd try to kill them all. Everyone that's mad about the OP doing this, why not war dec them, or go to their space and kill them? Pirates are notorious for doing these kinds of things, and this action states clearly that those that define themselves as pirates, and as such THEY ENJOY KILLING PEOPLE. If that offends you, go take it out on them, not on the forums. Congrats to the OP, loved the video! Die frigs die! For all the people crying in this thread, eve-mail Heywood Jablomie, he'll send some cheese for your whine! "Upon reaching the age of maturity you will fall into a life of petty crime, meet a drug addict *** *** Tree being, beat her up to make up for your own inadequacies as a person!
Ikvar The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.03.07 17:40:00 - [51] I do love a good spot of greifing and anything that is bad for EVE Radio is great in my opinion, so well done! Oh and don't listen to all these pansies talking about how awful you are, destroying something that someone has worked hard to organize and that people want to enjoy, just for the sake of destroying it is ***** awesome and I salute you for doing so! Originally by:** Rekindle I was in an empire system when they used their grief tactics to explode everything I own.
DJKarma Eve Radio Corporation Eve Radio Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.07 19:30:00 - [52] The purpose of the frig fight was to apportion some money to a lucky winner in a more interesting manner than pulling a name out of a hat. Someone gets to earn their prize instead of just sitting tight and hoping they're lucky. As for taking huge security to guard against this sort of thing, I'd like to negotiate the cessation of hostilities against Port Reality. I cannot simply call up a bunch of battleships to guard a frigate fight. It's difficult enough to get all the contestants together, on time, scanned for banned equipment, while running a show. Infiltrating that really isn't an accomplishment. If I somehow managed to put a tonne of battleships on guard, after a week of having sufficient protection, pirates would simply get a bigger fleet. The more big juicy ships you put into protecting it, the more pirates will want to take it out. It really doesn't matter, guys. Frigate fights aren't viable, so lotteries it is.
Galkchak	Posted - 2007.03.07 19:47:00 - [53] and with one pointless gank, another in game event is consigned to the history books as "Too attractive to gankbears"
chiefyuk Amarr Soar Angelic	Posted - 2007.03.07 19:58:00 - [54] i fail to see the "die with honour" part of this.. P.s As a pirate im against this kind of action. And you listen to the station that organised it, tut tut tut ------------------------------------------------ You can kill the protester but you cant kill the protest ------------------------------------------------
Sadao Minmatar Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.03.07 20:40:00 - [55] I am with Verone on this one. You came across as silly Counter strike source players with aimbots and wall hacks to me. Pathetic
Kehmor Caldari The Movement	Posted - 2007.03.07 21:26:00 - [56] Edited by: Kehmor on 07/03/2007 21:24:08 Originally by: Verone Exactly. Destroying an event in character would be a valid reason if there was profit for a pirate to be gained, or if there were in character motivations, for example a merc contract aganist a faction, or a caldari loyalist corp attempting to flatten a gurista raiding party. Disruption of a player event like this, then posting with this attitude on the forums (i.e. omgOLoLoLOLoL We R TEH WREk EVENTZ AND KILl TEH NUBZ) is plain out disrupting an event, for no intention in character, and simply to grief the people taking part. No excuse, and no "omg, i'm a pirate in character" crap holds water. In a way everyone is roleplaying in eve at all times. These guys are merely roleplaying blood thirsty dread pirates willing to go to all lengths to make a name for themselves. You roleplay a horny man with pink hair who spouts a lot of crap from his mouth. I know which I think is cooler.
Nidhoggur The Movement	Posted - 2007.03.07 21:41:00 - [57] Edited by: Nidhoggur on 07/03/2007 21:39:23 So, you needed 2 Battleships to do what another pilot can do in a frigate? Noobs.
Verone Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.03.07 23:08:00 - [58] Originally by: Kehmor You roleplay a horny man with pink hair who spouts a lot of crap from his mouth. I know which I think is cooler. I expected more of a flaming from you, your standards are slipping. NEWEST MOVIE : VETO FOR HIRE
Dr Slice OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.07 23:13:00 - [59] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Kehmor You roleplay a horny man with pink hair who spouts a lot of crap from his mouth. I know which I think is cooler. I expected more of a flaming from you, your standards are slipping. It seems to me Verone, that your heart has grown soft over the years. Do you recall the ingame funeral that took place in WoW over a player that died IRL? A PvP gang appeared and killed the participants of the ceremony. There was public outrage and forum wars for months after this incident. I imagine you would be one of the ones protesting against such an incident. Personally, I applauded it.
Scoundrelus The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.07 23:25:00 - [60] Originally by: Zirth snip Please don't flame. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) Baahahahaha, Zirth got moderated! You suck loser! Ninja vanish! poof

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