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Gaius Kador
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.06 17:48:00 -
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Hello Eddie, good to see you having fun! (you filthy subhuman) ;)
Keep the reports coming.
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Moonbeame
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:12:00 -
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Azathila
Fomus-Amarr Industrial
Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:18:00 -
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Well it has been a fun few weeks to say the least.
I have a knack to miss all the good fights though  .
I won't spoil the reason for the amount of Corp Hangars on that POS (spoils the epic stories when this is over  ), but you'll  for a long time when you do find out.
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Tharrn
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:18:00 -
[34]
 Originally by: Mah Kraah
i think to prevent ribble rabble discussions of we had this u had that etc and to clarifie balance in the engagement from the gate battle to the dread kill:
U'K
1 Dread, 6 Carriers, 11 BS, 2 CS,5 BC, 40 support. total, 64
Amarr coalition
5 carriers, 33 BS, 2 CS,17 BC, 33 support. total 90
this numbers are taken from killboard and it lists all ships involved in kill or loss mails .
deciding factor was the amarr coalition responded so fast.
it was planed to get the pos into siege and ours armed and ready bevore we have to face the full amarr wrath and than beeing able to do strikes and retreat to pos or fight with the support of the pos guns to get the upperhand.
cva and its allys where able to ralley a superior force and get it into the battleground system in less than 50 minutes after we started to operation and therefor spoiling our plan, 2 guns online only dont do the trick :-) , verry much respect for that
Just that it wasn't U'K vs Amarr Coalition but Freedom Coalition (for a lack of a better name) vs Amarr Coalition. Wasn't there IO, BoS et al around, too? Total numbers for both sides or U'K vs CVA only :P
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Winters Dawn
TW Industries
Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:22:00 -
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I am afraid that uk is a bit delusional. We use gatecamps sometimes to protect our miners and ratters from their gank squads. The Nos name may have been around for a bit but this is the third time NOS is being rebuilt. Neither of the leaders before left much to work with. As the new leader of NOS, I can assure you that if we ever decide to build a station we will not be stupid enough to store the materials in our space. Frankly, I dont think I want the hasssle of doing so anyway. I dont think we even have any corps left that was around with the first leaders. I was not. So do not confuse thier actions with ours. We had nothing to do with them or any thing they did.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
Originally by: Mah Kraah
i think to prevent ribble rabble discussions of we had this u had that etc and to clarifie balance in the engagement from the gate battle to the dread kill:
U'K
1 Dread, 6 Carriers, 11 BS, 2 CS,5 BC, 40 support. total, 64
Amarr coalition
5 carriers, 33 BS, 2 CS,17 BC, 33 support. total 90
this numbers are taken from killboard and it lists all ships involved in kill or loss mails .
deciding factor was the amarr coalition responded so fast.
it was planed to get the pos into siege and ours armed and ready bevore we have to face the full amarr wrath and than beeing able to do strikes and retreat to pos or fight with the support of the pos guns to get the upperhand.
cva and its allys where able to ralley a superior force and get it into the battleground system in less than 50 minutes after we started to operation and therefor spoiling our plan, 2 guns online only dont do the trick :-) , verry much respect for that
Just that it wasn't U'K vs Amarr Coalition but Freedom Coalition (for a lack of a better name) vs Amarr Coalition. Wasn't there IO, BoS et al around, too? Total numbers for both sides or U'K vs CVA only :P
Total Numbers for all involved in any incomming or outgoing kills on both the IO and UK killboards.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:32:00 -
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Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 06/03/2007 18:28:56
Originally by: Winters Dawn
I am afraid that uk is a bit delusional. We use gatecamps sometimes to protect our miners and ratters from their gank squads. The Nos name may have been around for a bit but this is the third time NOS is being rebuilt. Neither of the leaders before left much to work with. As the new leader of NOS, I can assure you that if we ever decide to build a station we will not be stupid enough to store the materials in our space. Frankly, I dont think I want the hasssle of doing so anyway. I dont think we even have any corps left that was around with the first leaders. I was not. So do not confuse thier actions with ours. We had nothing to do with them or any thing they did.
If no official announcements are made, how are we to know? I only ask because if it had become apparent that your leadership had changed again we would have probably had a go at diplomacy again.
Now this new information has come to light we may well have another go.
Secondly, having built an outpost I have to say you would be crazy NOT to store the low end minerals in a pos before deployment because freighters cannot drop cans and carriers/motherships filled with haulers are too small and the fuel costs would be crazy.
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Angry Dan
Caldari
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.06 18:43:00 -
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You got one bit of history wrong there.
Huzzah Fed used to run the QBL pocket as NBSI. We were jsut very lax about it. NOS had the same policy whilst I was there.
Well done on the write up. It makes a change to see a balanced, honest report form the leader of an alliance.
Founder member of the Huzzah Federation.Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Originally by: Butter Dog
Good Sportsmanship > Winning.
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Redwolf
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.06 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Gordo
The truth of the matter is that nobody can really remember anymore and most dont care.
I remember. I care only from the perspective that you are no longer strong enough to attack CVA so you choose to attack peacable nieghbours.
I can only agree with Equinox, a complete write up would sit better than meaningless and skewed stats. For instance, no mention of the 1-2bil of lost towers and pos mods?
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Gordo
Placeholder: Ushra'khan Loses Grip
Ive run out of time on my lunchbreak, so i'll post details of this later. Suffice to say though we lost the
system and the juicy POS is still standing.
Like I said to equinox, please read the full post before commenting. Prepare for the full section of that story after battlestar galactica finishes.
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Witch Doctor
Contraband Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.06 20:59:00 -
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It's nice to see that there's at least one war that shows class and style and doesn't degrade to yet another boring forum smackfest. I'm hoping CVA can live up to their reputation and match the class that U'K is showing. It's what sets both of your alliances apart here in the CoAD cesspool.
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Taurequis
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2007.03.06 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Witch Doctor
It's nice to see that there's at least one war that shows class and style and doesn't degrade to yet another boring forum smackfest. I'm hoping CVA can live up to their reputation and match the class that U'K is showing. It's what sets both of your alliances apart here in the CoAD cesspool.
Personally its not been that bad recently. Few bad apples on each side, but a hell of alot of decent posts ive been reading.
Taur
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Neesa Corrinne
Black Watch Legionnaires
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.06 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Azathila
Well it has been a fun few weeks to say the least.
I have a knack to miss all the good fights though .
I won't spoil the reason for the amount of Corp Hangars on that POS (spoils the epic stories when this is over ), but you'll for a long time when you do find out.
Some of us already know.
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ElHofi
Minmatar
the Organ Grinder and Company
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:01:00 -
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Nice writeup Eddie,
Good see you guys still holding on what you are doing.
Good Luck for you guys and keep up the good work.
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Aran Cole
Minmatar
The Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:54:00 -
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Can't wait for the writeup of the second part. Don't forget AM though, we had 7 or 8 pilots there  And I finally got my revenge on Jorund Bork for being one of the people on my first PVP death-mail 
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Brunswick2
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.07 01:41:00 -
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I'd like to say "Hi" to some of my old m8's from NOS, I miss some of ya
I wish you guys all the luck in the future.
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Avernus
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.07 02:01:00 -
[47]
Go UK!!
/looks at the Amarr guys in his corp...
What???
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Redwolf
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Eddie Gordo
Originally by: Eddie Gordo
Placeholder: Ushra'khan Loses Grip
Ive run out of time on my lunchbreak, so i'll post details of this later. Suffice to say though we lost the
system and the juicy POS is still standing.
Like I said to equinox, please read the full post before commenting. Prepare for the full section of that story after battlestar galactica finishes.
BSG finished ages ago, get a move on!
*sends for his slaver hounds*
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Canary Wharf
Solo for UNCLE
Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.03.07 08:56:00 -
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Edited by: Canary Wharf on 07/03/2007 08:53:41
Originally by: Eddie Gordo
Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 06/03/2007 18:46:46
Originally by: Winters Dawn
I am afraid that uk is a bit delusional. We use gatecamps sometimes to protect our miners and ratters from their gank squads. The Nos name may have been around for a bit but this is the third time NOS is being rebuilt. Neither of the leaders before left much to work with. As the new leader of NOS, I can assure you that if we ever decide to build a station we will not be stupid enough to store the materials in our space. Frankly, I dont think I want the hasssle of doing so anyway. I dont think we even have any corps left that was around with the first leaders. I was not. So do not confuse thier actions with ours. We had nothing to do with them or any thing they did.
If no official announcements are made, how are we to know? I only ask because if it had become apparent that your leadership had changed again we would have probably had a go at diplomacy.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=431596
There are a few UK comments in that thread as well.
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Eddie Gordo
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.07 09:15:00 -
[50]
Thats the thread I linked in the OP, the one where transendence breaks off ties with Ushra'khan and re-affirms support for the CVA.
I spoke with Winters Dawn last night and will do so again today.
As for the bit of the story the CVA are all waiting for (the bit where we lose our pos) you will have to wait till lunch time, or possibly after 17:00 tonight. I'd like to say rl got in the way, in a sense it did. But the reality is I fell asleap during road wars... watching TV in bed 4tl.
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kincajou niten
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 09:30:00 -
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Nice write-up Eddie, and gives some light on the why you started that campaign! Looking for more. :-)
Regarding killboard stats - there will be always disagreements on the numbers and inaccuracy because of not all posted their kill/loss mails and there are multiple alliances taking part in the battle. Again, nice to know what you are thinking about the outcome of the initial battle/whole campaign, even if we do not agree with that. :-)
To public out there not in conflict: since CVA and U'K have mutual agreement on not using alts and spies versus each other, such posts give us insight on how our enemy operate. Always interesting. :-)
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.03.07 11:10:00 -
[52]
Nice writeup.
Will there be any predictions as to the future of this campaign?
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Cythrawl
Caldari
Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 11:28:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Avernus
Go UK!!
/looks at the Amarr guys in his corp...
What???
/applytinfoilhat
FIX IS BACKING UK! UK IS JOINING BOB/FIX IN TEH WAR!
/detachtinfoilhat
 Ok, I'm joking, but someone had to add a little crazy flamer to this post. It's looking too respectable. We as a forum community have an amount of decorum to keep up.
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Avernus
Gallente
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.07 11:38:00 -
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I honestly can't help it, CVA vs UK is the coolest ongoing war in Eve, and it's been going for over two years. I'm Intaki, ofc I have to back UK! 
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maihem
TBC
Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 13:16:00 -
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the CVA/UK conflict is the best rivalry in EVE, i truly hope that both sides can be kept out of the "bob war" that will be going on around and possibly even through their space in the near future. i also hope that neither side actually "wins" and is able to take the other out of the game because that would be the end of something that both side really are enjoying.
cheers to both of you.
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Tharrn
Amarr
Epitoth Fleetyards
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.03.07 13:22:00 -
[56]
No side can be taken out - the worst that could happen to one side would be to be forced back into Empire, and that would neither be the end of the world nor of the conflict. It would just add some interesting twist :P
Ceterum censeo 'Concordia' esse delendam.
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar
Freelance Unincorporated
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.03.07 13:47:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
Nice writeup.
Will there be any predictions as to the future of this campaign?
CVA space burns. Eddie gets the girl. Maggot has more paperwork to fill out. Zoolkhan keeps making bad poems and you're next.
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.03.07 13:54:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Darius Shakor
Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
Nice writeup.
Will there be any predictions as to the future of this campaign?
CVA space burns. Eddie gets the girl. Maggot has more paperwork to fill out. Zoolkhan keeps making bad poems and you're next.
Hehe. I'm flattered 
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Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 14:07:00 -
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The Siege of QBL (an 'unofficial' perspective)
The evening for Siobhan started as it had for pretty much the previous four days - located in Empire space near KBP-& harassing Imperial Order.
On this particular evening very few Imperial Order were around their usual stomping grounds so when reports came in of 2 x 20 strong pirate bands wandering around Amarrian 0.0 I had no hestitation in heading back down to Misaba.
The pirates turned out to be a group of approximately 20 or so SolarKillers and another group of around 20 AAA (my memory may be slightly at fault here). There was nothing strange about this as both groups do visit CVA space every now and again for a good old scrap.
Anyway we started forming a gang in Misaba to chase both groups out of our space. The AAA gang had by this time dissappeared but SolarKillers were in XR and looked like they were heading away from us. So we signalled full pursuit and chased them through XR, into X6 finally catching and ganking two of them in AY - the rest fled from our larger fleet. However, in the midst of jumping our fleet (numbering around 30 at this stage) into AY we suddenly came across a previously unreported Imperial Order gang.
Unfortunately, they were already in system when we arrived so they managed to get safe. We blocked the 3 exits out of the system and used a covert to hunt for them. We did actually get one of their safes and managed to drop a bubble on them but unfortunately not at the right spot so the majority of their fleet escaped.
Meanwhile we had received an unconfirmed report from a neutral that a '****load' of Ushra'khan were massing in 9UY. We actually dismissed this report as an exageration initially. However while we were camping IO we sent scouts out and about and one of them did actually discover a 40 strong Ushra'khan fleet and very shortly after NOS informed us that the Ushra'khan were attacking them in QBL.
Thanks to the pirate incursion and Imperial Order's early arrival (I believe Ushra'khan had been held up by an IAC fleet) we had by now already got a 40 strong fleet assembled. When word came through of the attack on NOS we decided to ignore the Imperial Order fleet and move back to refit to break the Ushra'khan siege on QBL.
This process took approximately 30 minutes to reform a fleet to break into QBL. We also notified our friends in PIE, Aegis Militia and VV who sent some pilots down to Misaba to join our fleet.
We proceeeded to move down to QBL arring there less than an hour after the initial attack report. We then had to decide whether to risk a jump into a prepared bubble camp with long range snipers and approximately 70 hostiles in system.
As Eddie pointed out however a lot of UK's more experienced BS pilots were actually flying Dreads on this occasion and therefore we felt that with superior numbers and more heavy support we could force the camp despite jumping into a prepared position with serious lag.
Anyway, the decison was taken and our fleet started to jump in. Intially the 'campers' in QBL had the advantage as many of our ships auto warped away from the fight or suffered long loading screens. Indeed we also cynoed in a number of carriers to the fight yet some of these didn't fire a single shot in anger due to lag.
As the fight went the CVA/NOS/Amarr forces started to get into the fight and the relatively small UK sniper force was forced off the gate - leaving their close range support trapped in their own bubble to die at the hands of the Amarrian forces. As mentioned elsewhere we destroyed approximately 50 Ushra'khan/Imperial Order ships in this engagement losing approximately 15/20 ourselves.
With entrance forced we then proceeded to warp to the POS being attacked by the Ushra'khan dread fleet.
Unfortunately for us all had disengaged siege mode with the exception of Maggot's Moros which was swiftly dispatched - He did take a CVA Inty down with him however 
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Hardin
Amarr
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 14:44:00 -
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(Part Two)
With the immediate danger to the NOS POS relieved we then turned to assaulting the large Minmatar tower that Ushra'khan had errected.
Fortunately the speed of our response meant that it wasn't quite the Deathstar it was obviously meant to have been. Only two gun turrets were online (easily tankable by BS) however it did have an absolute stack of hardeners.
Nevertheless the CVA fleet succeeded in putting the POS into reinforced.
We wrongly assumed that after their beating on the gate, the loss of their Dread and their POS being put into reinforced that Ushra'khan would call off their large scale assault on the system. As a result we stood down our forces temporarily.
Ushra'khan and Imperial Order took advantage of this to construct a second large POS in the system and this time did succeed in arming it properly. This was clearly part of a more long term objective.
The next day CVA and friends gathered a strong fleet and succeeded in locking down the system. The large number of Ushra'khan carriers and other pilots in the system was a clear indication that they were going to try and cause mayhem as we attacked their POS.
However, we did not give Ushra'khan any clear opportunity to attack our Dreads without suffering horrendous casualties themselves. The reinforced (almost gunless) tower went down and we decided to hit the second large Minmatar POS (also heavily tanked). After a long slog this tower was also put in reinforced despite occasional Ushra'khan fighter attacks on CVA/NOS forces.
Again we assumed that thiswould be the end of the Ushra'khan/Imperial Order assault but once again they surprised us by constructing yet another large Minmatar POS in the system when we stood down.
The second large tower came out of reinforced at a godawful early time on a Saturday morning. We are sure the Minmatar's did this purposely to deny us much sleep. Nevertheless CVA and allies gathered an impressive fleet for that time of day and destroyed the POS - before attacking the new tower.
As before we suceeded in putting the tower into reinforced whilst denying the Minmatars with the opportunity to make a serious assault on our sieging Dreads.
Approximately nine hours later this third tower came out of reinforced in what was peak hours for both CVA and Ushra'khan. The Minmatars once again had a large number of pilots in the system but once again the number of combined allied forces meant that any serious assault on our forces was highly likely to fail with substantial losses.
As Ushra'khan capital ships started cynoing out of the third POS we knew that victory was finally ours and the siege of QBL was lifted (for now).
From the initial assault on a Thursday evening to the final destruction of the third large Minmatar tower on Saturday evening this was one of the most fun and intense periods of my EVE life so far.
Certainly the whole thing hinged on the fact that we were able to respond so quickly and were able to break the Minmatar camp before they had a chance to really entrench in the system and that was due to two main factors.
- Bad luck for the Minnies in being held up by IAC
- Good luck for us in having a fleet ready for action thanks to AAA and Solarkillers
I do have to say however that attacking POSes has to be one of the most mind numbingly boring things to do in EVE - especially super hardened POSes.
All in all the Ushra'khan siege was great fun from my perspective and it certainly lifted things from the usual anti-pirate level of activity. I am sure we will have to return the favour at some stage.
Amarr Victor...
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