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Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.07 14:53:00 - [61] Pretty accurate as always. Reasonings/motivation/explanation about the second two POS will be given tonight, but you seem to have hit the nail on the head. This was the first offensive POS attack we have tried against an equally powerful foe outside our own space and it presented a few new challenges. Hopefully next time we will overcome them Now Recruiting
Darius Shakor Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.07 17:43:00 - [62] Nice writeup Hardin. Someone had to do it eventually nudges Eddie Lazy bum. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal
Rustok HOW Industries New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.03.07 18:08:00 - [63] providence seems like fun again.
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.03.07 18:17:00 - [64] So Now that you've seen there's nothing worth it in QBL, are the attacks and POS spamming going to stop? Or has the ball been let go and it's just going to continue down the hill? Aindrias CEO FOAMI NOS
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.07 18:19:00 - [65] That will be up to your leadership when we next talk. Which will be soon. Now Recruiting
Johncrab Minmatar Typo Corp	Posted - 2007.03.07 18:27:00 - [66] UK is very cool indeed. Eddie Gordo and Maggot are very cool indeed. But... Originally by: Eddie Gordo ...Unfortunatly for Our glorious leader maggot his dread had accidently entered into another siege cycle, he was scrambled and could not move. The remnence of our fleet got into frigates with fighters assigned and tried in vein to save his ship, alas though it was not meant to be and his mighty Moros fell to the "cleansing Amarrian lasers" ... it seems like Maggot made a big mess with this one. The accident with the siege cycle is embarassing for a great leader. I know I would be ****ed. Anyway, wish the best of luck to UK. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.07 18:35:00 - [67] Originally by: Johncrab UK is very cool indeed. Eddie Gordo and Maggot are very cool indeed. But... Originally by: Eddie Gordo ...Unfortunatly for Our glorious leader maggot his dread had accidently entered into another siege cycle, he was scrambled and could not move. The remnence of our fleet got into frigates with fighters assigned and tried in vein to save his ship, alas though it was not meant to be and his mighty Moros fell to the "cleansing Amarrian lasers" ... it seems like Maggot made a big mess with this one. The accident with the siege cycle is embarassing for a great leader. I know I would be **ed. Anyway, wish the best of luck to UK. Maggot has corrected me on this. What actually happend was that because we didnt quite get the POS into reinforced mode, the single warp disruptor on it prevented him from jumping out with the rest of the fleet. As the hostile fleet came in, a couple of tackler inties engaged him. He killed one of them with small drones and activated siege mode again and promtly crashed. Given that we were in the process of losing the battle at the G7 gate I dont think it would have made too much difference, but he might have managed to score a couple of bs kills with his drones/weapons. I'm currently writting up the second half of the story now, made all the more difficult by the fact that hardin has already done such a good job :) Now Recruiting**
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.03.07 18:54:00 - [68] While I'm sure that discussion is needed between leadership, if your sole purpose to attacking the QBL and other areas was because of some build up you thought was happening and now you've discovered it isn't true, I guess I dunno what all the discussion is about unless there's more to it than that. Aindrias CEO FOAMI NOS
Vantras Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.07 19:13:00 - [69] Great posts on both sides. Well balanced battle report. Indeed the three year old war between the terrorists and the CVA is one of the great conflicts in EVE. It is a pleasure to be among the warriors that toil in service of the empire! Amarr Victor! (nice thread) Vantras
Serapis Aote Minmatar TBC Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.07 19:16:00 - [70] Originally by: Rustok providence seems like fun again. Providence is like a game within a game. GL to both sides, and much respect to both sides of this fight.
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.07 19:48:00 - [71] dev hax. dev hax. GM sniped me!! I posted the final bit of my story, and not only does it now not show up but my placeholder post is also gone!! Now Recruiting
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.07 19:51:00 - [72] Phew. Either i'm mentle or somebody nice just recovered it. It seems more likely that I have lost the plot. Now Recruiting
Davlin Lotze Raging Destruction The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.03.07 19:59:00 - [73] Originally by: Darius Shakor Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Nice writeup. Will there be any predictions as to the future of this campaign? CVA space burns. Eddie gets the girl. Maggot has more paperwork to fill out. Zoolkhan keeps making bad poems and you're next. Let me know when this comes out on DVD, I like the sound of it! Killboard
Maggot Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.07 22:07:00 - [74] Originally by: Johncrab UK is very cool indeed. Eddie Gordo and Maggot are very cool indeed. But... Originally by: Eddie Gordo ...Unfortunatly for Our glorious leader maggot his dread had accidently entered into another siege cycle, he was scrambled and could not move. The remnence of our fleet got into frigates with fighters assigned and tried in vein to save his ship, alas though it was not meant to be and his mighty Moros fell to the "cleansing Amarrian lasers" $ ... it seems like Maggot made a big mess with this one. The accident with the siege cycle is embarassing for a great leader. I know I would be ****ed. Anyway, wish the best of luck to UK. Someone had to stay behind and the fleet were busy at the gate. I thought what the hell and activated siege. At that point I already knew I was going to die, but had about 15 mins to contemplate my demise. The cva tacklers arrived when I was just coming out of ship and our warriors could have tried to save me. As the cva fleet was on me I activated siege again and my client froze instantly. I was only a little angry for the reason Eddie said, would have been nice to take a brace or two of battleships down before the ship went down.
Johncrab Minmatar Typo Corp	Posted - 2007.03.07 22:23:00 - [75] Sorry, didn't mean to flame, i'm on your side after all :) In the end just wanted to explore a part of the engagement that was left "hanging" and seemed important to me.
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2007.03.08 02:46:00 - [76] Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 08/03/2007 02:46:16 Excellent write ups Eddie and Hardin....It is nice to know the bigger picture....I also liked the video footage - and the music! Just to add - I was proud to fight with CVA and NOS and must give credit UK in the effectiveness of their operation which cost me my ship. Although I do sympathise with the plight of Minmatar slaves, I will continue to support CVA as long as they promote 'safe' patrolled 0.0 space for small corporations and individuals. I strongly believe in CVA's very forward thinking concept of opening 0.0 space to be properly utilized for mutual gain. Good luck to both sides, Vyk. (minus 1 Megathron ) - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always skint! Please read my ideas
Neesa Corrinne Black Watch Legionnaires Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.08 02:51:00 - [77] Edited by: Neesa Corrinne on 08/03/2007 02:51:22 Originally by: Aindrias While I'm sure that discussion is needed between leadership, if your sole purpose to attacking the QBL and other areas was because of some build up you thought was happening and now you've discovered it isn't true, I guess I dunno what all the discussion is about unless there's more to it than that. This sounds like a very thinly veiled "Are you going to stop shooting us any time soon?" plea. No. Neesa Corrinne
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.03.08 04:26:00 - [78] Edited by: Aindrias on 08/03/2007 04:33:39 Originally by: Neesa Corrinne Edited by: Neesa Corrinne on 08/03/2007 02:51:22 Originally by: Aindrias While I'm sure that discussion is needed between leadership, if your sole purpose to attacking the QBL and other areas was because of some build up you thought was happening and now you've discovered it isn't true, I guess I dunno what all the discussion is about unless there's more to it than that. This sounds like a very thinly veiled "Are you going to stop shooting us any time soon?" plea. No. Neesa Corrinne Actually it was a poke through the thin veil covering the real reason to attack, I'm enjoying myself actually. I guess I know what I'm dealing with in UK, few NOSers will ever trust you Neesa, not for a minute, since you betrayed NOS. Not to mention the now two corps (Privateers and Repo Industries) that have war dec'd us conveinantly when the UK/IO aggression started and have been seen working directly together in G7AQ. I just find the reasoning suspect, "Uh oh, they might make cap ship or a station like all the other alliances, we need to go and attack..." Not ask... but ATTACK, and then POS spam after you figured out there's nothing there, your Reasons to attack are a little shaky. I know this is a PvP game, but CVA and UK are Roleplaying alliances, which is cool, so you'd think you'd need more than "It's a PvP game" to go to war.
Neesa Corrinne Black Watch Legionnaires Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.08 05:46:00 - [79] I don't want and/or need NOS trust. I want to see NOS crumble into dust and fade away like a burnt out phoenix... as is deserving of anyone who befriends slave traders. My friends are here now.
kashkaisha Minmatar Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.03.08 06:50:00 - [80] Gj Ushra'Khan protecting the world from the ebil priests
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.03.08 06:51:00 - [81] Originally by: Neesa Corrinne I don't want and/or need NOS trust. I want to see NOS crumble into dust and fade away like a burnt out phoenix... as is deserving of anyone who befriends slave traders. My friends are here now. Nice reply, and IO/UK are using Merc corps that use the "War Dec" Trick. Fun Fun. I was wondering if your next post could.. you know... address the issues I raised instead of.. you know... not addressing anything? 2007.03.08 05:15 Fate. has declared war on Novus Ordos Seclorum. Fighting can legally occur between those involved. 2007.03.08 05:15 The war between Fate. and Novus Ordos Seclorum is coming to an end. Fate. has retracted the war against Novus Ordos Seclorum. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours.
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.08 08:02:00 - [82] I think fate were in privateers, and I also think you have been declared war on by privateers. Privateers have a lot of corps comming and going, and when a corp leaves they are at war with you for a 24hr period. This is why you get a war dec from them and then a retraction. We have also had a war with the privateers. We dont right now but I think its just because they forgot to pay the bill. Now Recruiting
Maggot Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.08 08:06:00 - [83] The only contract UK has ever paid to Mercenaries was during the pirate siege of 9UY eight months ago for Capital ship assistance. Privateers are hostile to U'K. If you have real evidence of any U'K working with pirates then please feel free to present it to me via mail so it can be dealt with,
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.08 10:31:00 - [84] Originally by: Aindrias Originally by: Neesa Corrinne I don't want and/or need NOS trust. I want to see NOS crumble into dust and fade away like a burnt out phoenix... as is deserving of anyone who befriends slave traders. My friends are here now. Nice reply, and IO/UK are using Merc corps that use the "War Dec" Trick. Fun Fun. I was wondering if your next post could.. you know... address the issues I raised instead of.. you know... not addressing anything? 2007.03.08 05:15 Fate. has declared war on Novus Ordos Seclorum. Fighting can legally occur between those involved. 2007.03.08 05:15 The war between Fate. and Novus Ordos Seclorum is coming to an end. Fate. has retracted the war against Novus Ordos Seclorum. The war will be declared as being over after approximately 24 hours. Aindrias, I suggest you accept that Ushra'khan have decided to eliminate (or at least make their life difficult) for NOS. I wouldn't worry too much about this - see it as a learning opportunity. CVA has after all been fighting them for 3.5 years on and off - its good practice and an opportunity to recruit some pilots who like to shoot things. However, as far as I know the only time Ushra'khan had dealings with Mercs was when ISS hired MC to help defend 9UY. As for Privateers they dec everyone - indeed CVA has now had 3/4 wars with them and I know Ushra'khan are also fighting them now too - so I imagine their war dec is coincidental. Repo Industries do seem to be getting involved but that may have more to do with Imperial Order (or their own agenda) than Ushra'khan. ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607 AMARR VICTOR
Darius Shakor Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.08 12:09:00 - [85] Originally by: Aindrias I just find the reasoning suspect, "Uh oh, they might make cap ship or a station like all the other alliances, we need to go and attack..." Not ask... but ATTACK, and then POS spam after you figured out there's nothing there, your Reasons to attack are a little shaky. I know this is a PvP game, but CVA and UK are Roleplaying alliances, which is cool, so you'd think you'd need more than "It's a PvP game" to go to war. You have it a little backwards there so let me clear it up for you since I am in command of the intel gathering wing that picked that system. We noticed an increase in bubble camps in that system suddenly when our raiding parties passed through. We checked your POS in the systems in the area and found what we see to be an abnormally high number of hangars in one of your pos. We assume a stockpile for cap ship production or outpost construction. We attack to stop you from doing whatever it was you were doing with those hangars. At the very least it looked like a tasty supply base. All of that means it is a valid target. You speak as though we have been neutral all the while and were looking for a reason to open hostilities. We have been hostile since the first word of your assistance to the CVA reached our ears. Your people have raided our space in the past with the CVA in joint gangs and you have helped them defend their space from us. Now you think we should have asked if you were building anything? And if not then we have no reason to attack? Seriously now... No one ever askes an enemy to reveal a potentially juicy target like an outpost stockpile because we would not get an honest answer if it was and tip our hand to an attack. And just because that was not the case after the fact doesn't mean we should not have attacked anyway. You are, as I said, an enemy and friend of an enemy. Any attack is justified so it is not like we broke some unwritten rule. Hope that clears up the real reason why we attacked. Not just because we were bored and looking for something to do and cooked up false reasons to take down a POS of yours. We have reason enough given your hostile status. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal
Aindrias Amarr Fomus-Amarr Industrial Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:05:00 - [86] Originally by: Maggot The only contract UK has ever paid to Mercenaries was during the pirate siege of 9UY eight months ago for Capital ship assistance. Privateers are hostile to U'K. If you have real evidence of any U'K working with pirates then please feel free to present it to me via mail so it can be dealt with, You can take my word or not, but last night a group of 10 - 12 Repo Industries and U'K including Neesa Corrine were in the QBL/S9X area trying to bait us. You can ask Winters Dawn too, she was there. This maybe IO hiring them, I did say "IO/UK" in previous posts. I should have gotten screen shots. I was aware of Privateers War Dec'ing nearly everyone, not aware of FATE's circumstances. I stand so corrected It's fine if they want to attack because we're in it with CVA, which we were sorta forced into because as it was said.. UK Gank squads were running through our space, it felt natural to assist CVA in their operations.... and imagine that... put up a bubble around a pocket... an easily defensible area where we like to mine, rat etc. The WMD Bush Defense doesn't work though. "We're attacking because they can WMD us... oh wait.. nothing is there... That's ok we'll continue on anyways..." CVA has rarely asked for help because they'd rather do their own thing. We're friendly to them because they don't run gank squads through our space like U'K/IO has. I'm sure they want NOS around because we don't run gank squads into their space like U'K does. Now that U'K has taken more interest in NOS space, CVA doesn't want them on that doorstep and has stepped up it's assistance to NOS and visa versa, which is much appreciated. I get the reasoning now why U'K has taken an interest in NOS space. It would strategic in their war against CVA and they think because we booted Neesa out that we're she's been spreading misinformation about our relationship with CVA. Just no one is really admiting to saying that until now. THanks! Aindrias
Eddie Gordo Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.08 17:17:00 - [87] Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 08/03/2007 17:16:36 We arent using a WMD bush defence. We attacked you before the POS incident, and after my conversation with winters dawn we will continue to do so afterwards. It wasent the reason for the war, just the battle. The fact that the POS didnt contain an outpost or a super capital kinda sucks from our point of view, but we did at least have some fun in our first offensive POS strike. Really, the only thing thats changed is the need to strike that particular Large POS as priority #1 is no longer there. Now Recruiting
Deren Thaldrel Minmatar Black Watch Legionnaires Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.08 23:17:00 - [88] Originally by: Aindrias You can take my word or not, but last night a group of 10 - 12 Repo Industries and U'K including Neesa Corrine were in the QBL/S9X area trying to bait us. You can ask Winters Dawn too, she was there. This maybe IO hiring them, I did say "IO/UK" in previous posts. I should have gotten screen shots. It shouldn't be necessary, but I will clear this up. Several times when my mates in [BWL], surely you are familiar with Calypso's Wrath, Neesa and others, have gone NOS farming we have encountered Repo Industries swarming through at the same time. While they seem nice enough people they do seem to make it difficult to chain NOS spawns. On none of the operations I have participated on have we worked with Repo Industries, which I define as sharing any substantial intel or sharing gangs with them, so I think this is more coincidence than anything else. They are in your space, we are in your space, shrug It happens. Originally by: Aindrias I get the reasoning now why U'K has taken an interest in NOS space. It would strategic in their war against CVA and they think because we booted Neesa out that we're she's been spreading misinformation about our relationship with CVA. Just no one is really admiting to saying that until now. THanks! Aindrias Well several things regarding this. I think you are severely overstating Neesa's influence in UK :) lol While Neesa has an undoubtedly sexy avatar she is not in a position of leadership within [BWL] or [UNITY]. She is a respected and valued member of our corporation and the alliance we call home, but she doesn't dictate policy (and to my knowlege) has not been involved planning of this particular series of operations or the general activities against NOS. Several members of [BWL] knew Neesa quite well when she was in NOS as she spent a lot of time with us in Molden Heath hunting mutual enemies. She's a fantastic asset to our corp,a great friend, and a great pilot to boot. Its not surprising you're bitter over her leaving your alliance, any alliance should be so lucky to have members as skilled and dedicated as her. Sincerely, Deren Thaldrel Black Watch Legionnaires
Dragutinovic Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels	Posted - 2007.03.08 23:27:00 - [89] When i was still on my main in KIA n the best contract ever . Why ? No smack etc just playing EvE , altho there was a fight against you etc GL to you guys actually teh very best , a prime example ;) _____________ Im back !
Calypso's Wrath Caldari Black Watch Legionnaires Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.03.08 23:36:00 - [90] Edited by: Calypso''s Wrath on 08/03/2007 23:33:54 Last night Neesa, myself and 2 others made a foray into NOS space. After we were there for about 45 mins trying our hardest to find a decent NOS spawn that was not a frigate, shuttle, POD (I mean come on guys) we came across a raven with a pretty flippin mean tank. He stuck around, but when his tank died he did what was smart and jetted through the gate. OK good for him, GF all around. About 15 mins later, yes a group Repo Industries types showed up. They were looking for a fight too. I had a covo window open to their Commander and UK SET OFF TO DO THEIR OWN THING. I do not join mixed gangs. Plain and simple. When that cva vulture came through (The one with the UNGODLY tank) yes we came the 3 jumps to help allies. Either way, I enjoy fighting NOS. They donÆt quote scripture to me and limited smack. I like they way they are adapting to our raids, its making things more interesting. You guys almost got me with a 14 man gang the other night, almost uncloaked me by about 150m. Either way I sincerely hope that UK command does not work out +ve standings with you guys.

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