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Mad Mackem
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:16:00 -
[121]
Sad, very sad indeed.
Regards
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sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:17:00 -
[122]
Originally by: arjun Edited by: arjun on 07/03/2007 00:11:21 woodlouse leave it be, they are all indoctrinated. no reasoning possible there.
sableeye, rise was the strongest party that could be found at the time to take the area over from the traitors in steelvipers. you were a total dissapointment however.
your sucess against outbreak was'nt much better now was it
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bigfatbird
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:20:00 -
[123]
Have fun while you die Youwhat!
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Father Weebles
North Face Force Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:20:00 -
[124]
is youwhat a bob pet now?
"Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
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Sathrai
No Quarter. C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:20:00 -
[125]
Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Acwron
Originally by: sableye [...]
I was in RISE and before than in deklien I know first hand how d2 backstabs and manipultes, why the hell do you think RISE left outer ring could not stand to be near d2 any longer, we all know you enginereed the youwhat/rise war to try weaken us both. [...]
errm how is anything you are saying in the intrest of D¦? Weaken Rise? Weaken YW? Yeah right... It's soo in D¦ intrest to weaken the alliances that hold a region D¦ just wasted 60billion on to secure it...
Next time take a step back before you buy into BoBs tinfoil propagenda.
the info was'nt from bob and the reason was you did'nt want anything around that could challenge you and you were ****ed at youwhat for leaving d2, I will admit I can'nt say 100% everything is true eve politics are not black and white and are hard to follow at best of times all I know is you turned an allaince of people who hated and fought bob for years into despising your entire allaince so much they'd actually switch sides and that was no small change. The youwhat change is even bigger than a rise switch to be honest and either BOB are truely the perfect mind controllers or perhaps you guys just did soemthing wrong in the way you go about politics...
By chance, are you perhaps posting using your IAC alt as opposed to your YouWhat character?
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Spacial Scientist
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:21:00 -
[126]
Muthsera > ok this is how it is. Muthsera > dianabolic contacted zinc 4 weeks ago when he heard we where in syndicate. Muthsera > they where anchius about youwhat joining d2 against them. so they hired us to keep them busy. Muthsera > and make it look innosent Muthsera > then when they where going to look and see if it was possible to hire youwhat later on to go up north. Muthsera > I can't obviusly confirm that. but thats what zinc tells me
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Blitz'Krieg
Caldari SkyMarshal Logistics
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:25:00 -
[127]
Even if the rumers are true that they were giving away your region i would not be suprised. If you dont come out in support then what do you expect?
Bottom line is there would be an abundance of new reions that are controlled by d2 you could move into and before you /activate toys out of pram module i would consider talking to them, negotiating like an entity (and a frickin adult) and not order the destruction of your aliance.
You think BoB will let you keep it or defend it even if they do win?
Tbh i think you guys need to sack your leaders and sort this out with d2.
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:25:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Spacial Scientist Muthsera > ok this is how it is. Muthsera > dianabolic contacted zinc 4 weeks ago when he heard we where in syndicate. Muthsera > they where anchius about youwhat joining d2 against them. so they hired us to keep them busy. Muthsera > and make it look innosent Muthsera > then when they where going to look and see if it was possible to hire youwhat later on to go up north. Muthsera > I can't obviusly confirm that. but thats what zinc tells me
That is no evidence, that is a joke.
I rly hope that this isnt all based on a simple chatlog in which the guy isnt even sure about the real facts.
This looks more like a BoB plot. A sad panda, who would fall for that. Again... --------------------------------
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sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:26:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Sathrai
Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Acwron
Originally by: sableye [...]
I was in RISE and before than in deklien I know first hand how d2 backstabs and manipultes, why the hell do you think RISE left outer ring could not stand to be near d2 any longer, we all know you enginereed the youwhat/rise war to try weaken us both. [...]
errm how is anything you are saying in the intrest of D¦? Weaken Rise? Weaken YW? Yeah right... It's soo in D¦ intrest to weaken the alliances that hold a region D¦ just wasted 60billion on to secure it...
Next time take a step back before you buy into BoBs tinfoil propagenda.
the info was'nt from bob and the reason was you did'nt want anything around that could challenge you and you were ****ed at youwhat for leaving d2, I will admit I can'nt say 100% everything is true eve politics are not black and white and are hard to follow at best of times all I know is you turned an allaince of people who hated and fought bob for years into despising your entire allaince so much they'd actually switch sides and that was no small change. The youwhat change is even bigger than a rise switch to be honest and either BOB are truely the perfect mind controllers or perhaps you guys just did soemthing wrong in the way you go about politics...
By chance, are you perhaps posting using your IAC alt as opposed to your YouWhat character?
I am ceo of principle of motion in IAC so no alt, I do respect all our current allies in fight against bob including d2 but I do undertsand why many turn against them. I am just offering up what alot in my corp think and feel we were there in RISE as it happend I was there in NFC as it happend although i agree that was amorew differnt situation NFC felt sold out by d2, I was there in NORAD while we always got cold shoulder from d2 I was there in RISE when they started shooting at us without warning.
So anyway now I will fight siode by side with d2 and I wish them well in here current struggle I am just glad I won'nt have to live anywhere near them for sake of my corp.
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Acwron
Minmatar Cataclysm Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:26:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Acwron on 07/03/2007 00:23:41
Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Acwron [...]
the info was'nt from bob and the reason was you did'nt want anything around that could challenge you and you were ****ed at youwhat for leaving d2, [...]
D¦ saw Rise and YW as a threat? Why should we? If we would have seen you as such we wouldn't have given you the region in the first place. Did you see that you reasoning is totally borked? Well of course you can not because that would mean that Rise's political decisions of the last months was based on false assumptions and that can't be true. Or can it?
PS: i've always been wondering what Rise has been smoking. I guess now I know.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:28:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Falryx Welcome to the side of the righteous, guys.
*vurp*
Excuse me, I just threw up a little in my mouth.
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Arlenna Molatov
Caldari The 59th Parallel
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:30:00 -
[132]
Ahh....Bob have their "slaves" at it looks like D2 have thier "slaves" too. So what again was the difference between D2 and BOB?
Oh wait,...nothing.
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Chaser Wolf
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:32:00 -
[133]
The more the targets the more fun.
Good Luck
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:33:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Turkantho Edited by: Turkantho on 06/03/2007 23:23:14 woody forget it, you can't reason with them, he in their world we'ree the evil backstabbers since we didn't hand over cloud ring once we took it from the goons but gave it to RISE instead...
@youwhat and well judging from your killboard and loocking at your perfomances against enemies such as Cruel Intentions: GOOD LUCK you will need it
edit: it's late and my typing skills suck atm live with it
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sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:35:00 -
[135]
Edited by: sableye on 07/03/2007 00:32:52
Originally by: Acwron Edited by: Acwron on 07/03/2007 00:23:41
Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Acwron [...]
the info was'nt from bob and the reason was you did'nt want anything around that could challenge you and you were ****ed at youwhat for leaving d2, [...]
D¦ saw Rise and YW as a threat? Why should we? If we would have seen you as such we wouldn't have given you the region in the first place. Did you see that you reasoning is totally borked? Well of course you can not because that would mean that Rise's political decisions of the last months was based on false assumptions and that can't be true. Or can it?
PS: i've always been wondering what Rise has been smoking. I guess now I know.
because if youwhat and rise allied agsint you we would be another power block that could perhaps rival your own in north east, please remmber it does'nt take a whole alliance to think this it generally takes only 1 person in power to make decisions that affect the course of events in the eve universe. I also admit the whole thing could have been a bob plot and false information but bob never made d2 shoot rise now did it.
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Acwron
Minmatar Cataclysm Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Acwron on 07/03/2007 00:34:19
Originally by: sableye
Originally by: Acwron [...]
because if youwhat and rise allied agsint you we would be another power block that could perhaps rival your own in north east, please remmber it does'nt take a whole allaince to think this it generally take sonly 1 person in power to make decisions that affect the course of events in the eve universe. I also admit the whole thing could have been a bob plot and flase information but bob never made d2 shoot rise now did it.
I'm awestruck. Rise definitly delivers the most amazing fairytales.
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Vyndicator
Amarr 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:38:00 -
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Wow, this thread is having lots of words said.
Lemme just say, I understand what YouWhat went through, I understand D2s position on it aswell but I can step back from the sideline and view it from there.
D2 and YouWhat had a rift and they have been very seperate entities since, I don't think it was every expected that they would be best friends again. Both sides have done things that are wrong to the other and now they've finally come to a standpoint where they will be actively shooting each other.
Looking back at the things both sides have done to each other I do have to say that D2 has done worse things than YouWhat, you napped the goons, which is a complete betrayal of what you were. Any ground which you think you have on saying that someone else has done something bad to you...just think back to that.
All said and done, good luck YouWhat, it's ganna be a tough role but then again so was getting Cloud Ring back.
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Blitz'Krieg
Caldari SkyMarshal Logistics
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:38:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Blitz''Krieg on 07/03/2007 00:34:38
Originally by: sableye
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I was wondering, wtf is this guy drunk or something and then i saw the alliance ticker .... ah
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welsh wizard
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:38:00 -
[139]
Burn with the rest of the turncoats.
gl though.
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: sableye because if youwhat and rise allied agsint you we would be another power block that could perhaps rival your own in north east, please remmber it does'nt take a whole allaince to think this it generally take sonly 1 person in power to make decisions that affect the course of events in the eve universe.
Please Sableye, you cant honestly believe that...
D2 is sometimes arrogant - yes. And thats why the bolded sentence is absolute nonsense.
Trust me... --------------------------------
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DeadDuck
Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: DeadDuck on 07/03/2007 00:37:09
Originally by: Vasili Z
Judging by what YOU'VE done on the D2 killboard, I'm guessing you won't be there anyways.
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Murukan
Minmatar Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Turkantho Edited by: Turkantho on 06/03/2007 23:23:14 woody forget it, you can't reason with them, he in their world we'ree the evil backstabbers since we didn't hand over cloud ring once we took it from the goons but gave it to RISE instead...
@youwhat and well judging from your killboard and loocking at your perfomances against enemies such as Cruel Intentions: GOOD LUCK you will need it
edit: it's late and my typing skills suck atm live with it
CI is populated by TC, NSN, and SAS i believe. So it would not be surprising that they rack up a nasty kill/death ratio against any alliance
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Cmd Woodlouse
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Vyndicator Looking back at the things both sides have done to each other I do have to say that D2 has done worse things than YouWhat, you napped the goons, which is a complete betrayal of what you were.
And napping BoB is better?
I dont get it --------------------------------
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Dakaris Zulu
Red 42 CORE.
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:42:00 -
[144]
Hey youwhat, when the north kicks your ass..
can I have your stuff???
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:44:00 -
[145]
Originally by: sableye perhaps you guys just did soemthing wrong in the way you go about politics...
This quote strikes to the heart of why the D2 led coalition is doomed to failure. BoB has always been up front about their aims, their goals, and their tactics. They have not changed their stance or their identity a single time in their history. D2 on the other hand, is trying to pretend that they are some deserving entity that holds the moral high ground. D2 claims that when people join bob, they are brainwashed or stupid, and when people join D2 they are trying to strike down evil. In reality, D2 is just a wannabe Bob. They want to rent space, play a part in galactic politics, and even now they are adopting many of the tactics and forum baiting that they claim to decry against when someone they are fighting does it.
Of course, this is the nature of Eve and even more so the CAOD forums. The alliances that are beginning to turn against D2, and those that openly admit they would never want to be friends with D2 (Hi IAC), are showing you that not only do you NOT ride the high horse, but that you are even more flawed than your opponents, because of the utter amount of BS that spews from your ideology. At the end of the day, you are trying to hide your true selves, and your mistakes will bite you in the rear. Try looking in the mirror before you find yourself surrounded on all sides.
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Chewan Mesa
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:48:00 -
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Omg in on page 5!
Good luck guys, was fun fighting you in CR, and I'm sure you'll have a great time down south :)
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sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.07 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: sableye because if youwhat and rise allied agsint you we would be another power block that could perhaps rival your own in north east, please remmber it does'nt take a whole allaince to think this it generally take sonly 1 person in power to make decisions that affect the course of events in the eve universe.
Please Sableye, you cant honestly believe that...
D2 is sometimes arrogant - yes. And thats why the bolded sentence is absolute nonsense.
Trust me...
well to be fair my corp came to RISE after reforming from NFC war I have little idea of the polotics before we joined RISE we were x norad pilots which is why we joined, we never liked the way you treated NFC during the war but we decided your were the strongest thing next to bob and the best chance of defeating bob was staying allied with you (hell it still might be) and overall I kid myself into thinking your actiosn during NFC war were ok, I mean staying out of war between us and iron was ok I can live with thatbut you give them a base in fade in which to launch attacks we never had that luxery kind of same during cloud ring wars youwhat could replensih in fade why we were fighting you even supposdly supplied both of these sides with stuff and yes I know you supplying youwhat with assets does not ring well with you wanting to see both of us gone but it does when you relaise youwhat and rise would have been at war for months we outnumbered them greatly but they had advantage of skill the only reason war lasted so shortly was outbreak and your allies in RISE leaving as soon as they left you napped them but came to shoot your old allies?
anyway I'll give up chatting now, I already admit I don'nt know truth 100% I have been playing eve for 3 years and I know all you ever get is half truths everyone has an angenda including the people that convinced RISE to leave Outer Ring all I personally care about now is a swift d2 victory as thats what suits me and my corp best does'nt mean I have to like you much, oh and I don;nt think you ever meant to **** people off either it what comes from being a super power in eve everyone hates you and questions your every move its natural.
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sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.07 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Wylker
Originally by: sableye perhaps you guys just did soemthing wrong in the way you go about politics...
Of course, this is the nature of Eve and even more so the CAOD forums. The alliances that are beginning to turn against D2, and those that openly admit they would never want to be friends with D2 (Hi IAC)
now I do not speak for IAC lol and don'nt try to make out I do I speak for one corp and myself that does not equel a whole lot, I speak from my experiences last few months that are meangingless to most IAC and I have not once tried to turn anyone iac against d2, IAC leadership see d2 as great allies and while I may have my differnces with d2 personally does'nt mean I won'nt follow my allaince policies and d2 are'nt exactly the worst allies out there either espially as a southern entity.
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Vyndicator
Amarr 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.07 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse
Originally by: Vyndicator Looking back at the things both sides have done to each other I do have to say that D2 has done worse things than YouWhat, you napped the goons, which is a complete betrayal of what you were.
And napping BoB is better?
I dont get it
Yes actually it is. Bob have always been a good opponent and have always been there, sure they're a pain in the ass, but the reasons for being hostile to them were good solid reasons for fun where you could respect them. I cant say the same about goons, goons were the opposite and a reason why so many people hate(D) them was because the way they played the game and the bad things they brought to it.
So IMO naping bob isn't as bad as naping. And just a FYI, you NAPed the goons before they went on the side of Bob, you hardly put them in a position where they wanted to follow your lead, you made the first move they are only dancing to the tune that is played.
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nickycakes
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.03.07 01:03:00 -
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awesome
Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
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