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Burn Monroe Suddenly Dreadnoughts BIack Tie Affairs 2	Posted - 2016.07.11 03:58:32 - [1] - Quote 1. Keep high sec territories the way they are. 2. Allow capture of null sec areas by a concord faction/corp. If they are captured, they become high sec. 3. Allow these areas to continue to expand outwards into null sec. This would implicitly create the most epic battles, because the null sec alliances would not stand for such shenanigans. You could create a new story-line, with new concord stations all around the edges of null sec, both in low sec and high sec locations. The story-line could go along the lines of concord being sick and tired of all the pirate factions bringing their criminal ways to high sec. Concord plans to turn all of null sec into high sec.
Noah Reese 12	Posted - 2016.07.11 04:27:40 - [2] - Quote No it would create massive stalemates just as the old north did back then and just as coalitions have been doing for a while now: massive areas where you never see any neutrals or reds. How would creating more high sec invoke MORE pvp?
Raiz Nhell Tactically Gifted Tactical Supremacy 523	Posted - 2016.07.11 04:35:09 - [3] - Quote Surely this would create more PVE.... And make 0.0 pvp non-existent as everyone fights against NPC's for their territory. This sounds like an idea made under the influence of bad chemicals There is no such thing as a fair fight... If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
Sustrai Aditua Intandofisa 359	Posted - 2016.07.11 04:58:09 - [4] - Quote Like the fella inferred, who would be your player opponent? If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
Carson O'Genick Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2016.07.11 06:58:43 - [5] - Quote Double the size of the universe and get rid of null / low-sec. Laughing manically, Carson inhales more toxic fumes as they leak into his pod
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 604	Posted - 2016.07.11 07:03:32 - [6] - Quote So you want highsec players to be able to go to null and capture a system and then if players try to capture it back, they get CONCORDED by NPCs (since NPC Corps can't be Wardecced)? That's some wacked up carebear thinking there. If you want to capture nullsec, go do it like everyone else and then hold it like everyone else. If you need the support of an invincible defence fleet to assist you, you don't deserve the space.
Linus Gorp Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker 302	Posted - 2016.07.11 09:17:47 - [7] - Quote OP would be better off playing World of Warcraft. When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Memphis Baas 1692	Posted - 2016.07.11 11:58:44 - [8] - Quote Counter-proposal: 1. Introduce citadels. 2. Let players fill high, low, and nullsec with citadels. 3. Remove NPC stations and extend the sov mechanics to apply to all space. => Epic battles (nullifying high-sec)
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 162	Posted - 2016.07.11 12:10:57 - [9] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Counter-proposal: 1. Introduce citadels. 2. Let players fill high, low, and nullsec with citadels. 3. Remove NPC stations and extend the sov mechanics to apply to all space. => Epic battles (nullifying high-sec) Even better, skip all that. Just remove all stations/citadels/poses. Eject everybody's ships into space. Also remove the ability to leave space by logging out. Fire concord and disband all npc factions (making everywhere unowned 0.0 space) Let the free-for-all commence.
Barrogh Habalu Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 1131	Posted - 2016.07.11 13:52:59 - [10] - Quote I mean, c'mon, OP can't be serious. Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Neph Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate 360	Posted - 2016.07.11 14:51:08 - [11] - Quote Dirty Forum Alt wrote: Memphis Baas wrote: Counter-proposal: 1. Introduce citadels. 2. Let players fill high, low, and nullsec with citadels. 3. Remove NPC stations and extend the sov mechanics to apply to all space. => Epic battles (nullifying high-sec) Even better, skip all that. Just remove all stations/citadels/poses. Eject everybody's ships into space. Also remove the ability to leave space by logging out. Fire concord and disband all npc factions (making everywhere unowned 0.0 space) Let the free-for-all commence. Yes, sir, the capsuleers want us to blow up all our stations and abandon the cluster to them... yes, they've asked this of all the four empires... no, sir, I'm not making things up... ~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~ GÇ£Sitasutone nabeliwatsa-shogi; Otre Jaitovalte hessami-ettogi useuus sufat. Eika, hakkit garuketsi.GÇ¥ -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 163	Posted - 2016.07.11 14:59:37 - [12] - Quote Neph wrote: Dirty Forum Alt wrote: Memphis Baas wrote: Counter-proposal: 1. Introduce citadels. 2. Let players fill high, low, and nullsec with citadels. 3. Remove NPC stations and extend the sov mechanics to apply to all space. => Epic battles (nullifying high-sec) Even better, skip all that. Just remove all stations/citadels/poses. Eject everybody's ships into space. Also remove the ability to leave space by logging out. Fire concord and disband all npc factions (making everywhere unowned 0.0 space) Let the free-for-all commence. Yes, sir, the capsuleers want us to blow up all our stations and abandon the cluster to them... yes, they've asked this of all the four empires... no, sir, I'm not making things up... Not just the main 4 - All of them. Even the pirate ones.
Vincent Athena V.I.C.E. 3893	Posted - 2016.07.11 15:25:50 - [13] - Quote Ive been trying to see if there is any way to make this viable. The only thing I've thought of: Any null alliance can invite (pay?) concord to patrol their territory. Doing so effectively turns their territory into high sec, in that gank type attacks get a concord response. A wardec still turns off concord. You want to take that territory back, kick out concord? War dec the holders, take their systems. Concord will not stop you if that wardec is in place. I cannot see this has a good thing for all of null. But it might be interesting for some of null. A new dynamic, something different to shake things up. Maybe it would require new regions to avoid upsetting current alliances. Know a Frozen fan? Check this out Frozen fanfiction
Titti Sabezan SYNDIC Unlimited 15	Posted - 2016.07.11 16:19:54 - [14] - Quote Burn Monroe wrote: 1. Keep high sec territories the way they are. 2. Allow capture of null sec areas by a concord faction/corp. If they are captured, they become high sec. 3. Allow these areas to continue to expand outwards into null sec. This would implicitly create the most epic battles, because the null sec alliances would not stand for such shenanigans. You could create a new story-line, with new concord stations all around the edges of null sec, both in low sec and high sec locations. The story-line could go along the lines of concord being sick and tired of all the pirate factions bringing their criminal ways to high sec. Concord plans to turn all of null sec into high sec. 1. End hi-sec outside of starter systems, and Imperial home systems. 2. Make all trade-hubs null-sec 3. Set NPC stations so that they will fire upon criminal flags and prevent docking by suspects until the timer (if any) runs out. 4. Restore Daily Opportunities, but include PVP kills, and scale the rewards according to the class of ship killed. Just 4 thoughts (from a carebear)
Sonya Corvinus Grant Village 318	Posted - 2016.07.11 16:31:15 - [15] - Quote I'm just going to assume this is a troll thread and move on.
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 165	Posted - 2016.07.11 17:43:06 - [16] - Quote Sonya Corvinus wrote: I'm just going to assume this is a troll thread and move on. After posting to make sure we knew you were here...
John Volan Volan Enterprises 23	Posted - 2016.07.11 18:08:42 - [17] - Quote I think you have your heart in the right place but adding more of high sec, the area that is designed to restrict pvp by it's very nature, in order to increase pvp doesn't make any sense to me. If you really want to see more pvp you'd have to shake up the status quo and I think at this point in the game that means changing the landscape itself. I seem to recall years ago a preview of player-made stargates and I don't know whatever happened to them but that is something which would certainly shake things up: changing the value of entire constellations because players decided to build something. Or destroy something.
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 421	Posted - 2016.07.11 18:34:43 - [18] - Quote I get what the OP was trying to say but it missed the point of how that HiSec transition would have to work. It couldn't be instant. Now, what you can say is that System Security increases for null sec systems aren't fast enough. Non-sov systems that are quiet and start getting their status increased (faster than currently) could theoretically get the attention of an Empire that is nearby. Thus the Empire could expand to start claiming those more attractive zones and capture them, go up through LoSec to HiSec over the course of a long time. Call it Incursion on a REAL EFFECTS scale. You'd also have to have mechanisms to allow players to target Lo/HiSec systems and start to destabilize them. Jita comes to mind. It has so much ship violence in it that it should actually be a LoSec system by now and headed to Null. I mean Concord is spending a fortune on patrolling Jita, you'd think they'd want to start cutting their losses. Perhaps War Deccing an Empire or something like that could be done to take down HiSec systems. Thus you have a reality based concept of systems gaining and losing ground. Carebears would need a mechanism to defend their spaces as well, so, maybe it's okay to open up on someone with a negative security status and not get Concorded yourself. Thus the rabble rousers get pointed out and you can toast them freely in HiSec. In LoSec, Concord would only care near gates/stations so the systems are already PvP friendly. However, the concept of Carebears gate camping HiSec gates becomes amusing. It would definitely toss the status quo for a loop. Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game -- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 165	Posted - 2016.07.11 18:41:56 - [19] - Quote You know I suspect some of the largest 0.0 entities would actually endorse this idea if it was fair and enabled them to finally conquer low-sec and eventually high-sec by beating the threatened incursions back. Still PvE not PvP though.
malcovas Henderson THoF 454	Posted - 2016.07.11 19:48:40 - [20] - Quote On the turn around. Let players take hi sec. Once a pos or citadel is placed in hi sec. Sec status starts to deteriorate overtime. If players want to remain hi sec they have to war Dec the Corp with pos or citadel to remove it. Once it gets to low sec status then free for all ensues. No pos or citadel and the sec status increases.
Pandora Carrollon Kingsman Tailors 423	Posted - 2016.07.11 20:02:49 - [21] - Quote Dirty Forum Alt wrote: You know I suspect some of the largest 0.0 entities would actually endorse this idea if it was fair and enabled them to finally conquer low-sec and eventually high-sec by beating the threatened incursions back. Still PvE not PvP though. Secret is, it's all PvP, there is no PvE... (But I get that you are talking about EVE PvE) and you still wouldn't be up against the Empires alone. Players with established bases and Concord protection to lose out on would likely assist the Empire forces. If the game introduced something like a "Letter of Marque" system for the Lo/HiSec players and got deputized to fight other players trying to take the systems, then it's back to ship to ship PvP and that's the OP's goal. If done right, a system could be devised to use what currently exists but is somewhat broken, to do this kind of slower 'migration' of power bases. Be Positive GÇó Change yourself first, New Eden will come later GÇó EVE is Awesome GÇó CCP isn't the enemy GÇó Players are people too GÇó Where're the clothing blueprints GÇó Yeah, I'm still learning this game -- Pandora's Rules to EVE by
Neph Crimson Serpent Syndicate Heiian Conglomerate 362	Posted - 2016.07.11 20:49:21 - [22] - Quote Roll it into a new missions system: "Go hunt down and destroy 5 members of Pandemic Horde..." ~ Gariushi YC110 // Midular YC115 // Yanala YC115 ~ GÇ£Sitasutone nabeliwatsa-shogi; Otre Jaitovalte hessami-ettogi useuus sufat. Eika, hakkit garuketsi.GÇ¥ -Yakiya Tovil-Toba-taisoka
Dirty Forum Alt Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 166	Posted - 2016.07.11 20:53:13 - [23] - Quote Neph wrote: Roll it into a new missions system: "Go hunt down and destroy 5 members of Pandemic Horde..." I support this product and/or service.
Burn Monroe Suddenly Dreadnoughts BIack Tie Affairs 3	Posted - 2016.07.19 07:17:53 - [24] - Quote Shae Tadaruwa wrote: So you want highsec players to be able to go to null and capture a system and then if players try to capture it back, they get CONCORDED by NPCs (since NPC Corps can't be Wardecced)? That's some wacked up carebear thinking there. If you want to capture nullsec, go do it like everyone else and then hold it like everyone else. If you need the support of an invincible defence fleet to assist you, you don't deserve the space. Well, that's quite the narrow minded view there. How about they setup a mechanic that null sec corps can shoot those in the concord faction? Problem solved.
Burn Monroe Suddenly Dreadnoughts BIack Tie Affairs 3	Posted - 2016.07.19 07:19:11 - [25] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Counter-proposal: 1. Introduce citadels. 2. Let players fill high, low, and nullsec with citadels. 3. Remove NPC stations and extend the sov mechanics to apply to all space. => Epic battles (nullifying high-sec) I suspect that doing so, would slowly erode new players joining. High-sec is important for newbs.
Burn Monroe Suddenly Dreadnoughts BIack Tie Affairs 3	Posted - 2016.07.19 07:20:38 - [26] - Quote Vincent Athena wrote: Ive been trying to see if there is any way to make this viable. The only thing I've thought of: Any null alliance can invite (pay?) concord to patrol their territory. Doing so effectively turns their territory into high sec, in that gank type attacks get a concord response. A wardec still turns off concord. You want to take that territory back, kick out concord? War dec the holders, take their systems. Concord will not stop you if that wardec is in place. I cannot see this has a good thing for all of null. But it might be interesting for some of null. A new dynamic, something different to shake things up. Maybe it would require new regions to avoid upsetting current alliances. Exactly, I was thinking parts of null could be that way, maybe several systems into null.
Burn Monroe Suddenly Dreadnoughts BIack Tie Affairs 3	Posted - 2016.07.19 07:23:40 - [27] - Quote Dirty Forum Alt wrote: You know I suspect some of the largest 0.0 entities would actually endorse this idea if it was fair and enabled them to finally conquer low-sec and eventually high-sec by beating the threatened incursions back. Still PvE not PvP though. Yeah, that might work, allowing conquering of low/high. I think a fair amount of high sec needs to remain though, for newbs coming in. If they are blown up left and right, they probably wouldn't stay. When I started, I didn't mind the occasional destruction, as I was learning. But if it just kept happening, preventing me from learning the game, I probably wouldn't have found it fun. Being destroyed now doesn't bother me.
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7635	Posted - 2016.07.19 07:31:47 - [28] - Quote If you create a mechanic by which nul-sec can become high, then for the sake of balance, the mechanic must also allow high to become nul. You cannot have your cake, and eat it too. In case anyone is confused by the cake adage, it simply refers to eating a cake, but still having the cake on your plate. I know, it used to confuse me too. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Shae Tadaruwa Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 615	Posted - 2016.07.19 07:49:26 - [29] - Quote Burn Monroe wrote: Shae Tadaruwa wrote: So you want highsec players to be able to go to null and capture a system and then if players try to capture it back, they get CONCORDED by NPCs (since NPC Corps can't be Wardecced)? That's some wacked up carebear thinking there. If you want to capture nullsec, go do it like everyone else and then hold it like everyone else. If you need the support of an invincible defence fleet to assist you, you don't deserve the space. Well, that's quite the narrow minded view there. How about they setup a mechanic that null sec corps can shoot those in the concord faction? Problem solved. You can't shoot CONCORD. How simple is that to understand. If you make systems highsec, they are protected by CONCORD and NPC Corps (even if you can shoot players in those corps) can't be wardecced, so CONCORD will respond. I guess at least narrow minded is better than no mind at all. Go back to the playpen OP. You're carebear fantasies have no place here.
Mephiztopheleze Laphroaig Inc. 800	Posted - 2016.07.19 08:46:35 - [30] - Quote Memphis Baas wrote: Counter-proposal: 1. Introduce citadels. 2. Let players fill high, low, and nullsec with citadels. 3. Remove NPC stations and extend the sov mechanics to apply to all space. => Epic battles (nullifying high-sec) counter proposal ammendment: For the next eight years, every year, security status of all systems decreases by 0.05 to a minimum of -1.0. Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura

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