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Cadela Fria Amarr Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.03.08 20:30:00 - [301] Originally by: Umit Davala Originally by: Cadela Fria You have to be the first good sport in arguments I've ever met in EVE...I don't know how to handle it! WHY MUST YOU BE A GOOD SPORT?!?! At least I don't smell of poo. (any better? ) Thank you! ^_^ I mean RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!! insert fist shaking here Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
Araxmas Black Lance Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.08 20:30:00 - [302] Quite alot of people are saying that this has no place in the eve universe or is pointless. But think about this, the amulation(sp?) project will likely grab a good amount of people to eve, which means more money. ergo more money ergo money to spend on staff and servers ergo less lag ergo more ingame stuff and such.. and so on. Also what you need to realise is that after this what else will there be, will there be atmospheric flight or abilities to mine planets and such. EvE is expanding like usual and anything to add immersion is good. Oh and saying that this will create more lag is stupid I mean come-on people this isn't SOE, it is pretty safe to assume that lag issue has been thought about and stations will run on a different server or some such techno stuff. -------- Robbie Rotten left me
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.08 20:35:00 - [303] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 08/03/2007 20:32:16 Originally by: Cadela Fria Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/03/2007 20:20:20 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Cadela Fria I've been in 1 single channel that had people RP'ing and for a minute I thought it looked promising...that is until nearly everyone, more or less all at once, started cybering. I've been RPing here for over three years, and haven't cybered once. Nor have most of the people with whom I RP. Perhaps you were looking in the wrong channels. My guess is that being able to walk around station won't stop people from cybering. People who use chat channels to cyber will do exactly the same sort of thing in a 3D environment. (damn you for adding extra stuff for me to comment on AFTER I quoted you shakes fist) All public RP channels are a load of dingo's kidneys. The interaction is poor, the creativity is shot and no one can seem to agree on what level to interact on in terms of medium, setting and so forth. If there are good RP channels, they're private or only for certainly people of certain organisations, which kinda leaves me back where I started As for people cybering, those will always be there, station walking or no station walking. The reason why I'm really excited about station walking is because it'll encourage the regular kind of serious RP, because now we have a common medium and tangible scenarie we can actively deal with. What I'm saying is, I don't want to get rid of people who cyber, by all means let 'em run wild. What I want is a better environment for Rp'ing. And my point is that there's already a decent RP culture in Eve if you know where to look for it. Yes, you often need to be in the right corp, but if you're a dedicated RPer this shouldn't be a problem. Just as the public RP channels in Eve tend to get spoilt by a certain section of the community, so will those same people interfere with attempts to RP while walking around stations. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.08 20:37:00 - [304] People seem to be worried that this is going to shift the focus of the game away from what it's really all about. Other people seem worried that all this effort is just for essentially useless eye candy. These arguments cancel each other out. It won't shift the focus because for now it is fairly shallow eye-candy, and it's good that it's shallow for now so that its future development is driven by the playerbase and doesn't shift the focus from the primary interests of the playerbase. - If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.08 20:38:00 - [305] Originally by: Rodj Blake Just as the public RP channels in Eve tend to get spoilt by a certain section of the community, so will those same people interfere with attempts to RP while walking around stations. Add in backstory where extended use of the pod can cause the pilots to go slightly insane when not in the pod. Sorted. - If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine.
Cadela Fria Amarr Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.03.08 20:46:00 - [306] Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/03/2007 20:46:36 Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 08/03/2007 20:32:16 Originally by: Cadela Fria Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/03/2007 20:20:20 Originally by: Rodj Blake Originally by: Cadela Fria I've been in 1 single channel that had people RP'ing and for a minute I thought it looked promising...that is until nearly everyone, more or less all at once, started cybering. I've been RPing here for over three years, and haven't cybered once. Nor have most of the people with whom I RP. Perhaps you were looking in the wrong channels. My guess is that being able to walk around station won't stop people from cybering. People who use chat channels to cyber will do exactly the same sort of thing in a 3D environment. (damn you for adding extra stuff for me to comment on AFTER I quoted you shakes fist) All public RP channels are a load of dingo's kidneys. The interaction is poor, the creativity is shot and no one can seem to agree on what level to interact on in terms of medium, setting and so forth. If there are good RP channels, they're private or only for certainly people of certain organisations, which kinda leaves me back where I started As for people cybering, those will always be there, station walking or no station walking. The reason why I'm really excited about station walking is because it'll encourage the regular kind of serious RP, because now we have a common medium and tangible scenarie we can actively deal with. What I'm saying is, I don't want to get rid of people who cyber, by all means let 'em run wild. What I want is a better environment for Rp'ing. And my point is that there's already a decent RP culture in Eve if you know where to look for it. Yes, you often need to be in the right corp, but if you're a dedicated RPer this shouldn't be a problem. Just as the public RP channels in Eve tend to get spoilt by a certain section of the community, so will those same people interfere with attempts to RP while walking around stations. Okay, so we agree on the overall picture of this situation. Now MY point is that aside from the RP forum (Intergalactic Summit), I'd like a more public RP culture that encourages more people to actively Rp. Sure there might be a good Rp culture already, but I haven't ever seen it - Only barely in a channel for a corp the is/was (I think it died) called Ordo Quaesitoris, by a guy called Sepherim. At best we were 4 people tops in that channel at maximum peak, I'm sorry but thats not my idea of a healthy RP Culture. I know tons of good rp'ers out there in EVE who aren't because they've gotten discouraged so many times like me by corps who claim to be RP, but then it turns out that their idea of "rp" happens in a seperate channel that isn't corp chat, where hardly anyone ever goes or uses. If thats not the case, they Rp in the corp forums and so on. I might be an old IRC nut whos spent many a hours rp'ing in a non-graphical environment and most certainly also a UO nut (I run my own UO RP server), so I'm used to very active, live and creative rp'ing. I don't know, I'd just like a more openly available Rp culture, rather then it being an exclusive society where you're forced to join a specific corp/alliance to participate. Bottom line: Sorry, but forgotten corp rp channels that no one ever uses, forum posts and people who speak funny in corp chat, is just not good enough for me. Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
Shalia Ripper Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.08 22:06:00 - [307] Originally by: Iomar Uisdean Edited by: Iomar Uisdean on 08/03/2007 20:27:12 Folks, lighten up. Please, it's a game, it's supposed to be fun. Couple comments (and please, for the love of Jebus don't take me seriously). 1. Showers real close to the hangars. Some of us have been pod bound for many months, others for years. We stink. Maybe a Barber close by might not be a terrible idea also. 2. Pants!! Do we get pants? I have only ever seen my Avatar from about the rib cage up. How can I be sure he even owns pants? 2a. Don't make the pants bpo's ultra rare and allow some folks to create a pants cartel. 2b. Don't just give pants bpo's to BoB either. 3. I will actually look forward to being station camped once this is implemented. 4. Will we be able to view in our hangars where all our crap is stored? What about the livestock? The bedlam that ensued when we threw 300 marines into the same bin with 30 exotic dancers? Will we finally be able to have a use for Janitors? And what exactly is Kull's DNA.....or maybe I'd rather not know? I just hope i don't get ganked int he shower....I really don't need any more useless DNA samples. Pants? Hell....how do you know if you even have legs? I like that this is optional. Just like mining. I tried mining, it sucked, and I moved on to other things. But I have a feeling I will like this. And A LOT of people should have read the dev blog first, it would have eliminated 90% of the ass-hattery in this thread.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.08 22:07:00 - [308] Speaking of which, will we actually get hats to wear on our asses? - If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine.
Shalia Ripper Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.08 22:09:00 - [309] Originally by: Crumplecorn Speaking of which, will we actually get hats to wear on our asses? Asshats will be standard issue for Amarr and Gallente.
PKlavins Caldari 3rdlane Industries Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.03.08 22:29:00 - [310] is this gonna go the way of planetary landing? i.e. one vid, then no news for 2 years? i hope not...this is awesome http://paklavins.deviantart.com/ first -eris
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.03.08 22:37:00 - [311] Problem with RP in eve is people constantly forgetting that they're in a pod, submerged in goo and communicating via quantum transmission of binary data. Not in a tavern sharing a pint of ale. "Greetings! What ho?" Ugh. - - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - or automatic signatures - - - - - - - - "186,282 miles per second; It's not just a good idea, it's the law."
Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics All the things she said	Posted - 2007.03.08 22:58:00 - [312] Two words. How/much. If there creating an engine from scratch, id be suprised if it were free... Feel free to suprise me otherwise though, that boardroom with the map above the table was rather impressive ______
Cadela Fria Amarr Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.03.08 23:02:00 - [313] Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/03/2007 22:59:47 Originally by: Frug Problem with RP in eve is people constantly forgetting that they're in a pod, submerged in goo and communicating via quantum transmission of binary data. Not in a tavern sharing a pint of ale. "Greetings! What ho?" Ugh. Thats the problem...roleplayers can't agree on what medium they're communicating on. Some roleplay that they're actually outside their pod, communicating over regular FTL comm consoles. This works, because ships are still built the same way, but are adapted to pod technology, meaning ships most likely still have their conventional design. This idea however, gets boring real fast. Some roleplay that they activate a hologram transciever and via rendering devices at the places they send the signal, they intereact with each other by appearing as if they are really there in person - Thus making it so you can do this regardless of what you're doing. This is by far the best idea I've come across so far that works somewhat for me and keeps me relatively entertained with the few people who also practice it. Some roleplay that they're in bars or some such, even when not even in the same solar system or even docked in a station (these are USUALLY the bad rp'ers..note: usually. Because it's a bad idea, it makes no sense and many a times these are the places im talking about that explode in an inferno of teenage hormones and much cybering follows) Some use the various channels as the actual medium, in terms that they are FTL text comm devices and such they only talk with each other. Meaning the actual game UI is their medium for rp'ing. This idea also works and is more or less flawless, but quite frankly, it's boring as hell. The list continues, but people can't agree on it and actually make something work. Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
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JaxxFunk Minmatar Macabre Votum Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.08 23:23:00 - [315] ^ omg Back to the topic though, walking in stations has so much potential. Looking forward to it You aint seen me...right
RaWBLooD	Posted - 2007.03.09 00:17:00 - [316] Originally by: ghosttr Edited by: ghosttr on 08/03/2007 11:33:27 Edited by: ghosttr on 08/03/2007 11:31:09 Awesome CCP, now if you could only fix the drone regions Now if i get popped by a pirate and he docks in the same station I can run over and **** in his fuel tank. Also was wondering if we will get to see jove, and all of the small critters in eve, such as long-limb roes and fedos, and some other things such as exotic dancers. It would also be cool if you could see into a clone vat bay, or labs, or watch your ammo being produced. Or sell drugs in station not on the market, and walk around and have meetings and such aboard a ship. Or transport other pilots in your ship. the market is already secretive enough that contraband can be listed through it, why would there be a station not on the market ?!
ZaKma Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.09 00:34:00 - [317] Do we get emotions? Like /spank!
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.03.09 00:51:00 - [318] /me imagines the ammount of exotic dancers he has..ow yeh! _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Solitaire Guillaume Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.09 00:53:00 - [319] Edited by: Solitaire Guillaume on 09/03/2007 00:53:55 Originally by: Crumplecorn People seem to be worried that this is going to shift the focus of the game away from what it's really all about. Other people seem worried that all this effort is just for essentially useless eye candy. These arguments cancel each other out. It won't shift the focus because for now it is fairly shallow eye-candy, and it's good that it's shallow for now so that its future development is driven by the playerbase and doesn't shift the focus from the primary interests of the playerbase. In my interview with Magnus earlier today he made it very clear that the Ambulation Project is not being developed in order to draw people out of their ships and into 3D chat rooms. Kieron confirmed that the interior station activities will be on separate hardware so that the nodes handling what's happening outside will NOT be affected. This is already how it's working in-dev and will be carried over to the game. I'll have my article with photos written soon enough and will link it in the forums --- Todd C. I Feel Renewed Already
FireWynd Caldari BloodBath 'N Beyond	Posted - 2007.03.09 01:53:00 - [320] Wow that is amazing! It brings back so many Earth and Beyond memories! I really cant wait for this to come out, its going to give EVE so much more life. Go devs go!!!
Grant Smith Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.03.09 02:27:00 - [321] Yup, this is gonna be awesome! Gonna keep so many people ingame just for this. G o> INFOD Director.
Slaider Kaizo Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.03.09 02:57:00 - [322] I do not know if I should laugh, cry, cheer or puke......but WOW~
Abrah	Posted - 2007.03.09 03:16:00 - [323] You ppl are missing the bug picture ! This walk in station thing totaly sucks and ill tell you why and you will agree ! Stop crying about lag , tehnology is improving at a fast rate more high teck stuff are more accesible ccp will eventualy have the funds and the hardware to maintain large scale gaming. Anyway ... why this thing sucks 2001: some dude starts creating a game called eve 2003: eve gets realesed ok we have mining , building ships , rats and pvp 2004: we get missions , t2 stuff ,more skills, plexes , bla bla bla 2005: structures , regions to conquer 0.0 gets much more intresting etc 2006: many awsome ships like carriers new t2 ships more skills and stuff 2007: we get even more skills and more stuff finnaly contracts etc until the end of the year lets hope we get the faction warefare the audio stuff and whatever else they promisd now it gets intresting , technolgy advances very fast these days graphics and animations and gameplay in games generly its going very fast very far so now we go faster and further 2008-2009: we walk around in station great animated and ouer characters have all kind of reactions to envoierment . 2009: new stuff who knows skills ships etc 2010: finnaly we can fight in stations and this takes eve to a totaly new stage 2011: tones of new contenent arives for in-station battle like guns armor vehicles etc 2012: more stuff for space play ..ships skills who knows what 2013-2014 : been now 10 years since eve got realised and technology improved alot we finnaly have planetary interaction and we can dock on planets and build farms , weapon factorys , mines and of cource siege them distroy them etc etc etc _______________ and now why is all that bad ? .... we will not have a real life !!!!!!
Athelstan Zeniya Gallente SUN INDUSTRIES PTY LtD The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.03.09 03:24:00 - [324] Originally by: Abrah You ppl are missing the bug picture ! This walk in station thing totaly sucks and ill tell you why and you will agree ! I do not agree.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.03.09 03:33:00 - [325] Originally by: Cadela Fria Thats the problem...roleplayers can't agree on what medium they're communicating on. Voice communications from one ship to another directly from their brains. This is never stated, but it is the only thing which fits with all the backstory. In-game, instead of voice channels we have chat channels. That is the only difference from how it actually works in the backstory. (Our portraits are even mentioned in one EON chronicle) But, then, roleplayers, meh, can they even tell Intakis from Elves? - If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine.
Abrah	Posted - 2007.03.09 03:34:00 - [326] Ok now to get more serios on the topic... We are witnesing the most important event humans ever witnessed i am not talking about eve i am talking about the internet , it changed and is changeing the way we live , on the entertaiment part comes games ... most important mmos wich are loved by milions if not billions of people , whell in the entertaiment part eve is one of the games that is developing future entertaiment and no matter how small we are like just a mission runner or a small miner we all play ouer part in this grand brach of future industry. so come on guys lets give a hand and encourage ccp to develop the game to it's maximum potential even in it's risking to lose but think what it can gain in the long run... today we walk in a station.. tommorow we build a base on a planet or who knows maybie atmosphere on unlivebale planets. with every one posting here something even if its flame even if its 3 letters like omg they are making the topic bigger more harder for ccp to ignore so tell youre corp m8s and in local to come on this topic and encourage ccp to do a great job or to critisize . ... 6 am here im jus rabbling BS or i have a point ?
qui arthell	Posted - 2007.03.09 05:21:00 - [327]
Lorieen	Posted - 2007.03.09 05:27:00 - [328] Most important question is will we be able to blob inside of station?
mafesto Minmatar Luna Tech Manufacturing Industries	Posted - 2007.03.09 05:41:00 - [329] I have a ton of friends who will be playing once we have avatars that can walk around I can't wait....thank you CCP!!!!!
Shalia Ripper Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.09 06:48:00 - [330] Originally by: Lorieen Most important question is will we be able to blob inside of station? Two words..... PUB CRAWL!

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