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Phoebus Athenian Gallente KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.17 04:59:00 - [421] Is only secondary to a lag-free smooth client.... get to work! Then you can see about new features :P ---
SiJira	Posted - 2007.04.17 05:26:00 - [422] So many of the current vessels would not be able to fly in atmosphere - including many frigates and interceptors.
Daro Con	Posted - 2007.07.10 19:22:00 - [423] Originally by: Roshan longshot When is this due out? I really need to know so I can cancel my accounts a month before. This is NOT what I play eve for. I want no part of it, nor will I come back to Eve after it comes out. Long time I been waiting for just the right thing to make Eve 'unfun' for me...and this is it. No you cant have my stuff isk or BPO's they all going to my friends. OMG Did you even read the hole thread Dude Walking in stations Is optional and you dont HAVE to take part in it
Deadeye Devie	Posted - 2007.07.17 18:44:00 - [424] oooookay, as someone who has come from Lineage 2, freelancer, fronteer elete, GW, Neverwinter nights and soooo many rpg and mmorpg based games in the past 5 years i have to say this WELL DONE CCP!!! to start with, over the past month or 2 i have been playing i have enjoyed every minute of the game and the depth and shere diversity of character creation i like, and now a addage of walking in a 3rd person view round stations....masterstroke! here is how i see things...and this is purely as a newb to eve. USAGE OF STATIONS- 1/the ability to meet other pilots and players rather than a mass of identical ships floating around in space...space for the work, station for interaction and unwinding. 2/ corp headquarters and recruiting...how many times have you seen cans at gates advertising clans recruiting? well heres the perfect add on outlet for it! just have rentable advertising spaces on boards around the station, and with corps hangers and such, theft should easily be stopped with more secured systems (fingwerprint id or retina locks for corpies only? thus avoiding using the ''it should be hackable!'' excuse) 3/possible combat could be eliminated, for example, like the current concord insta-pod situations in empire....u attack someone, a station security official tazers u instantly so that you are out cold, then perhaps thrown in the stations detention centre for a few minuted/hrs....giving the poor sap to recieve the assult time to undock, and get away, or get a few corpirs or a merc ready for the guy leaving. 4/ assassination or more covert ways of eliminating rival corpies or bountied players could easily be handled more...subtally...a few empty offices no taken yet by a corps could be used for example, making the game a little more reason for bounty hunters on stations and such...perhaps making 'panic buttons' rouynd the station for the odd unexpected and failed attempt, calling station police to that area, and arresting the individual, or chasing them off the station into the arms of concord!...it would dissuade players, whilst leaving the option for it to happen if done carefully and with forthought...and a manditory brig time penalty for ppl pressing and wasting time, eventually busting down thier station privilages to dock only, no contact with station population, unless standings drastically improve with the corp/faction owning station. that said, on to the other thoughts i have had. STATION GFX AND PHYSICS- 1/ the whole ''biiig windows, i wanna see ships in realtime'' problem...that can be sorted perhaps...and i dont know the ins and outs of the engine, a count of ships set to dock on local space, and a check on how many orbiting could be done automatically, and then in the station, as a SEPARATE instance, a ship matching the ships tuype is put in, in a preset path, showing it docking/orbiting/boosting away...thus still giving the feeling of the ships being there and ability to see whose coming n going? 2/bump mapping or whatever its called, well i would say thats needed, else everyone would be walking thropugh each other like ghosts, just make it as close to the body as possible, thus eliminating blocking doors...make characters able to push past crowds. 3/ more instances = less lag, less ppl in 1 area = less lag.....i would think CCP have thought ahead on this and a final note...all those who think that the whole idea of walking on a station is just eye candy and not needed.....perhaps not, perhaps so. If things are not added and if just more solar systems add, those players that have stuck by Eve for many years will just soon see it as the same old same old....this breathes new life into a game, a game that already has so much to offer. If its not for you, then its going to be optional, so dont worry, you wont need ever see any of it...but also think of the growth of playerbase of many newcommers joining....those who seem not to be interested in this
Barrick Stormsworn Minmatar CAD Inc. Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.17 18:51:00 - [425] Originally by: Daro Con OMG Did you even read the hole thread Dude Walking in stations Is optional and you dont HAVE to take part in it Holy necro, batman! Why don't we just chill and wait and see what happens... you know, when it gets here. THEN we can beat it like a dead horse. Bit preemptive to start now
Deadeye Devie	Posted - 2007.07.17 19:04:00 - [426] oops, will finish off this post...last bit ...those that dont seem to like this are also against it, in the majority, because they do not like such games as WoW and GW....well, i hate to say it but there a lot well known more than this game, a shame i know, i too do not like WoW. The thing is, for a game like this to continue and grow, you need players, and to keep players you need to give people what they need AND intice more players.....yes, many may come from the games you hate...think of it this way...its more fodder for your guns, and more corpies to defend you against, and help kill those you want dead just let them walk around the station, its optional after all, just stay in your ship and enjoy the game you have played for so long.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.07.17 20:02:00 - [427] Originally by: Deadeye Devie oops, will finish off this post...last bit ...those that dont seem to like this are also against it, in the majority, because they do not like such games as WoW and GW....well, i hate to say it but there a lot well known more than this game, a shame i know, i too do not like WoW. The thing is, for a game like this to continue and grow, you need players, and to keep players you need to give people what they need AND intice more players.....yes, many may come from the games you hate...think of it this way...its more fodder for your guns, and more corpies to defend you against, and help kill those you want dead just let them walk around the station, its optional after all, just stay in your ship and enjoy the game you have played for so long. that is exactly how it is going to be ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore miners ritually donate the ore to anyone wishing to take some
Dietes Marcellus	Posted - 2007.07.17 20:16:00 - [428] Walking in stations could either go really well or ruin the game I feel like.
Desiderious Gallente Setenta Corp Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.17 20:27:00 - [429] CANT WAIT ANOTHER SECOND! GAAHAHHHHH explodes ----------------------------- Oink ^OO^ Your sig is too large. Please resize it so that it fits within 400x120. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.17 20:40:00 - [430] Originally by: Sieges Have they decided/announced how you will control your character in the stations? Please keep it mouse-based... POINT AND CLICK MOVEMENT BAD! BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD there is a reason not a single one player game has ever been point and click movement based. I for one would not play eve if I had to get 5 feet form a door nd then wait for session change. BAH you lose, no no no no, I for am glad to hear manual movement is coming to eve.I didn't say jopysticks, I said manual movement. I want to pick my heading. wasd BETTER be the control. so.. just... ughhhh that would be liek laying zalda point and click, not good. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
The Ratfink Itto-Ryu Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.17 20:44:00 - [431] WANT NOW shakes fist
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.17 20:47:00 - [432] Originally by: Grendelsbane Originally by: Plasticine Perfection Edited by: Plasticine Perfection on 07/03/2007 21:56:18 Originally by: Pacala Not sure if you saw the two people in the beginning meeting and looking at the map. If we can have our corp meetings using EveVoice as opposed to TS or Vent as well as collaborate on maps and other things that would be fantastic. Think of the time savings for planning ops and fleet movements. I think it definitely adds to the immersion and functionality. Having said that, I'm probably gonna go through that undocking sequence only once. Maybe when I get a new ship, but definitely not every damn time when I dock to pick up a skill. Yeah I saw them looking at the map. Explain to me how that, admittedly nicely rendered, map was any more usful than the OLD map? And about corp meets etc, well, how exactly is all that wasted processing power on making you all look nice going to help the meeting? We're talking about walking in stations here, not eve-voice. Most of that vid was 2 people walking about in a station, not sharing a map interface. It was more Sims2 than GRAW. Gameplay >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fancy graphics. Game developers that forget that make games like Prey. Game companies that remember that make classics like Planescape: Torment. Yes, but fancy graphics do not neccessarily mean poor gameplay, either. If it were up to you back in the day, we'd probably all still be playing Pong and Asteroid. I can think off the top of my head any number of ways that this can be used as a tool to create more player interaction in EVE; for example, if this in the game, along with integrated voice... how about face to face meetings between leaders of different corps? You not only have speech at your disposal, but you could also easily have body language and other similar channels of communication. That would be a very powerful tool for negotiations and would, in my opinion, make the entire thing worth it. EVE is about more than flying around and blowing things up. the thing is that engine is running... what windows shader 2.5? fancy graphics? no, good art? hell yes. EvE is keep it very simple. they even said the new graphics would speed up peoples game expreince because it's less cluttered. Actually I'm a 3-D artist and 8000 polygons is quite simple. WoW characters run at 7000 for an example. SO it's not better graphics, it's just DAMN good art. ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.17 20:47:00 - [433] Originally by: The Ratfink WANT NOW shakes fist joins ratfink shaking fist or at least an update!! ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP
Perry Hope Gallente Isle of Hope II Corp	Posted - 2007.07.17 20:55:00 - [434] Hell yeah. Gimme more. PLEASE Hehe. Posted that on another thread here 8-)) Hopi Where is my Tech III Ice Harvester???
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.17 23:19:00 - [435] Its kinda a cool idea, but As I pointed out in another thread about this, theres an article that has a CCP dude saying ambulation will need Vista. In the same thread, a guy posted a link to an article where another guy from CCP says that you WONT need Vista... Make up yer minds guys... Vista or no Vista? And i think its pretty funny that the RP guys are talking this up so much when there isnt even a public RP channel IN this game... And the RP community is so "huge" that you have to search out the right ppl to talk to to be let into this "huge community". Ive been actively trying to get into this community for some time now as I like to RP, and this is supposedly a mmoRPg, and no luck so far... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Admus Mobius Construct Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.07.18 01:01:00 - [436] Man, I've been waiting for months for any sort of update or blog on this. Come on, come on! ---------------------------------------------------------- "Villains always have antidotes. They're funny that way."
Mica Swanhaven	Posted - 2007.07.18 01:02:00 - [437] CAN:T wait mUch..loooooonger a>KH/'
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 03:18:00 - [438] Originally by: Richard Aiel Make up yer minds guys... Vista or no Vista? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Deadeye Devie	Posted - 2007.07.18 04:01:00 - [439] i dont think it will just be rp it will add to, it will also add to the moments when ur bored n jus chatting to random ppl....seeing an avatar instead of a generic ship like 1000 others takes away the personallity of the player behind it....this is why we take time to craft those little portraits.... also i think the best use of station based activity is to make corp advertising in station. i do hope they use the new environment for this, as it will make it much easier to get your corperations name out there and get known. perhaps having the 'billboards' in jita space cost the most to rent due to the highest ammount of traffic?
Pasha Cracken Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.07.18 04:15:00 - [440] I think ccp should fix the current bugs and issues currently in the game before adding more stuff in, It will just cause more problems.
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 04:23:00 - [441] Originally by: Pasha ***en I think ccp should fix the current bugs and issues currently in the game before adding more stuff in, It will just cause more problems. Yeah its a nice sentiment but they wont >.< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Mr Greetings	Posted - 2007.07.18 04:23:00 - [442] Edited by: Mr Greetings on 18/07/2007 04:22:58 Originally by: Pasha ***en I think ccp should fix the current bugs and issues currently in the game before adding more stuff in, It will just cause more problems. THE PEOPLE THAT WORK ON WALKING DON'T FIX BUGS! THE ARTIST DON'T PROGRAM! god damn it, you people are dense. or at aren't aware of how game programing and game art are different. this is the world of darkness team. THIS IS SO STUPID. bah I'm done. I would try to educate you one by one but your so ignorant I bet you wouldn't listen anyways.
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 04:28:00 - [443] Originally by: Mr Greetings Edited by: Mr Greetings on 18/07/2007 04:22:58 Originally by: Pasha ***en I think ccp should fix the current bugs and issues currently in the game before adding more stuff in, It will just cause more problems. THE PEOPLE THAT WORK ON WALKING DON'T FIX BUGS! THE ARTIST DON'T PROGRAM! god damn it, you people are dense. or at aren't aware of how game programing and game art are different. this is the world of darkness team. THIS IS SO STUPID. bah I'm done. I would try to educate you one by one but your so ignorant I bet you wouldn't listen anyways. lol nope i didnt listen, but I DID report for trolling >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Mr Greetings	Posted - 2007.07.18 04:31:00 - [444] Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Mr Greetings Edited by: Mr Greetings on 18/07/2007 04:22:58 Originally by: Pasha ***en I think ccp should fix the current bugs and issues currently in the game before adding more stuff in, It will just cause more problems. THE PEOPLE THAT WORK ON WALKING DON'T FIX BUGS! THE ARTIST DON'T PROGRAM! god damn it, you people are dense. or at aren't aware of how game programing and game art are different. this is the world of darkness team. THIS IS SO STUPID. bah I'm done. I would try to educate you one by one but your so ignorant I bet you wouldn't listen anyways. lol nope i didnt listen, but I DID report for trolling trolling sure call it that if you want. I'm just sick of people asking artist to fix bugs. your post felt like a troll and thus I have reported you as well.
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.07.18 04:32:00 - [445] Originally by: Mr Greetings Originally by: Richard Aiel Originally by: Mr Greetings Edited by: Mr Greetings on 18/07/2007 04:22:58 Originally by: Pasha ***en I think ccp should fix the current bugs and issues currently in the game before adding more stuff in, It will just cause more problems. THE PEOPLE THAT WORK ON WALKING DON'T FIX BUGS! THE ARTIST DON'T PROGRAM! god damn it, you people are dense. or at aren't aware of how game programing and game art are different. this is the world of darkness team. THIS IS SO STUPID. bah I'm done. I would try to educate you one by one but your so ignorant I bet you wouldn't listen anyways. lol nope i didnt listen, but I DID report for trolling trolling sure call it that if you want. I'm just sick of people asking artist to fix bugs. your post felt like a troll and thus I have reported you as well. yay maybe I can get my 1 month ban! And YOUR post felt like a troll so I reported you again! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I can come up with good ideas too! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=548436&page=2
Hiesi Cryo Crypt inc.	Posted - 2007.07.18 04:33:00 - [446] I dont think people are asking the artists to fix stuff. I think it's more, how about instead of hiring the artists for new content get some additional programmers or whatever is needed to fix the current issues.
Mr Greetings	Posted - 2007.07.18 04:39:00 - [447] Originally by: Hiesi I dont think people are asking the artists to fix stuff. I think it's more, how about instead of hiring the artists for new content get some additional programmers or whatever is needed to fix the current issues. Alright fair enough. But part of the deal with buying whitewolf was making the world of darkness game. Also they have been releasing a new patch with bug fixes, 2 so far. and they are releasing trinity 2.0, I mean they are completely rebuilding the client. Rev three will most likely be a whole new 800 mb download. They are working on so much with the new client so give them some respect guys. and like I said the walking is a test for the world of darkness game. which I'm sure will have it's own bugs that will take forever to fix.
Yougot Fubarred	Posted - 2007.07.18 06:15:00 - [448] Edited by: Yougot Fubarred on 18/07/2007 06:18:35 Originally by: Mr Greetings Originally by: Hiesi I dont think people are asking the artists to fix stuff. I think it's more, how about instead of hiring the artists for new content get some additional programmers or whatever is needed to fix the current issues. Alright fair enough. But part of the deal with buying whitewolf was making the world of darkness game. Also they have been releasing a new patch with bug fixes, 2 so far. and they are releasing trinity 2.0, I mean they are completely rebuilding the client. Rev three will most likely be a whole new 800 mb download. They are working on so much with the new client so give them some respect guys. and like I said the walking is a test for the world of darkness game. which I'm sure will have it's own bugs that will take forever to fix. Yes, they are continuing to assign ppl (including programmers as I assume that the artists ARENT the only ones working on this stuff) to things OTHER than fixing the NUMEROUS bugs that NEED TO BE FIXED in this game. These bugs should be fixed BEFORE new content is added that will cause MORE bugs And to be honest, yay world of darkness... but that game is 5 or 6 YEARS down the line. EVE IS NOW And EVE is making MONEY for CCP NOW... therefore EVE should be the priority not WoD. WoD shouldnt even BE in this conversation. If CCP couldnt handle maintaining EVE AND building this new game they NEVER should have taken on this White Wolf garbage. And yes, FIXING bugs that should already have been fixed, I do include as "maintaining" EVE.
Igus Green Gecko Inc. Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.18 06:25:00 - [449] This does look really cool, but unless CCP fixes their lag issues none of it will matter. The game freezing up for 10-15 seconds when ever it does a server db read is not a good thing. -- Uhg, I think I need a flux capacitor
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.07.18 06:40:00 - [450] Originally by: Igus This does look really cool, but unless CCP fixes their lag issues none of it will matter. The game freezing up for 10-15 seconds when ever it does a server db read is not a good thing. trinity 2.0 ----------------------------------- I'm working my way through college target CCP

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