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Mastin Dragonfly Amarr Navy Runners	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:34:00 - [31] Originally by: Kaptein Trefot Edited by: Kaptein Trefot on 09/03/2007 13:39:54 I think every faction has a corp with a leve IV q18 encounter agent (best agent in high sec) in a 0.5 system and that caldari agent is at least in a lag free system. Tbh its rather scary to see all the ppl who are stupid enough to stay in lag hell when those systems donÆt even have the best agents available. But then again that stupidity deserves every bit of lag they get so just keep it as it is CCP! This is not true unfortunately, high sec lvl 4 combat agents are quite unevenly spread across the factions. Gallante has the worst set.
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.11 11:59:00 - [32] Originally by: Dammar Originally by: Tran Duma Edited by: Tran Duma on 09/03/2007 23:20:35 Maybe caldari needs more space in empire ,since eve is almost 90% caldari. Since there arn`t much amarr in eve maybe ccp can turn amarr agents into caldari agents and there space also. Seems fair to me.It`s not the gamer that have to pay in lagg.CCP did make caldari uber not the gamer. There is already caldari agents all over amarr space genius. And Gallente space, and half of the Gallente COSMOS are CAldari too!
El Sevillano	Posted - 2007.03.11 19:42:00 - [33] Needed to move agents once a week. CCP should dev a system to do it.
Drizzet	Posted - 2007.03.12 12:04:00 - [34] Edited by: Drizzet on 12/03/2007 12:02:02 Ok read this whole thread and had to say a few things. First of stop telling the people that are in salia they are dumb and what not they paid their 16 bucks a month or whatever to be able to play where ever they like without lag. Which brings me to point two I or any other mission runner should not have to move because of a lag issue ccp should have to fix it and make game play nominal no matter what that is what we pay for. My last yes there is alot of misconceptions about caldari navy and where the navy issue ships come from big deal I think its realy sad that you guys sit on here and bash people because they make a mistake this issue is not about if they chose the agent they chose for the right reason or not its about the people running missions in that area not being able to carry on their day to day eve lives because the server can not handle the load. Lastly please check my info before you call me a noob or some other dumb crap and think out what you say.
Ghan Tylous Caldari The Graduates Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.12 15:13:00 - [35] Originally by: Drizzet Edited by: Drizzet on 12/03/2007 12:02:02 Ok read this whole thread and had to say a few things. First of stop telling the people that are in salia they are dumb and what not they paid their 16 bucks a month or whatever to be able to play where ever they like without lag. Which brings me to point two I or any other mission runner should not have to move because of a lag issue ccp should have to fix it and make game play nominal no matter what that is what we pay for. My last yes there is alot of misconceptions about caldari navy and where the navy issue ships come from big deal I think its realy sad that you guys sit on here and bash people because they make a mistake this issue is not about if they chose the agent they chose for the right reason or not its about the people running missions in that area not being able to carry on their day to day eve lives because the server can not handle the load. Lastly please check my info before you call me a noob or some other dumb crap and think out what you say. I understand, but when people come on the forums and complain about lag, then they should expect to get flamed or told that they should just then move out of the system, where the lag is. Also that some people come on the forum, complain that they lost a ship due to lag. They should then expect to get flamed also and told "Well there is 150 people in local and you blame CCP, because you didn't thought about that so many people in local, all running missions causes lag". Don't complain over lag when you know that 150 people in local causes lag. Use your common sense. You can just move to a other lvl 4 agent in a less populated system. --- It have always fallen to a few to sacrifice for the good of many
bolo young	Posted - 2007.03.12 17:37:00 - [36] omg guys, almost 30k peeps playing the same server at the same time!! a wee bit of lag is goin to happen, yes you pay reall money to play a game meny hours a week which wont ever be completed.. sorry if you want to Bth about lag, go play css like all the other kids you haxor's wow!! Originally by: Drizzet Edited by: Drizzet on 12/03/2007 12:02:02 Ok read this whole thread and had to say a few things. First of stop telling the people that are in salia they are dumb and what not they paid their 16 bucks a month or whatever to be able to play where ever they like without lag. Which brings me to point two I or any other mission runner should not have to move because of a lag issue ccp should have to fix it and make game play nominal no matter what that is what we pay for. My last yes there is alot of misconceptions about caldari navy and where the navy issue ships come from big deal I think its realy sad that you guys sit on here and bash people because they make a mistake this issue is not about if they chose the agent they chose for the right reason or not its about the people running missions in that area not being able to carry on their day to day eve lives because the server can not handle the load. Lastly please check my info before you call me a noob or some other dumb crap and think out what you say. okay as i said at the top you pay for eve to be part of eve yes no lag would be nice but then again.. i get very small amounts of lag and i do missions go in to fleet battles look at the sun, play with exoit dancers.. try if your getting bad lag turn some of the options off, or even god forbid upgrade your pc, i know it says min requirments here but come on.. and this is not a dig at you but this whole topic.. and befor you complain that this is a alt and what not like 12yo's my other char name is hereward rowland please if i have said anything you disagree pls dont hesertait to keep it to your self and stop whining over a bit of lag becouse 30k + peeps are on the same server..
GetergdeKaasboer	Posted - 2007.03.12 18:41:00 - [37] Originally by: Bizazedo Originally by: GetergdeKaasboer move to another agent. obviously ppl gravitate to the high quality agents. why complain..... move. i did and am quite happy with a IV - 17 agent in a 0.9 system. While I do agree that the smart people have moved to a different system by now............ It's still not acceptable to have a star system be unplayable due to lag. Try Blob warfare, where every system becomes lagg unplayable...
GetergdeKaasboer	Posted - 2007.03.12 18:52:00 - [38] Originally by: Shadarle There are multiple reasons to want to run missions in what have become mission hubs. 1. Multiple level 3/4 agents. 2. Access to modules/ships/etc. 3. Access to help on hard missions. 4. Fraternization. 1) - map space there are other agents within range of a good agent (quality isnt everything) 2) - is this really why u choose a mission system? i make a mission kit and go to the agent system. i dont need to buy stuff every mission. 3) - have to agree this is useful having helped out ppl in missions before and miners with rats 4) - frankly checking local in a populous system is LAGG city when the chat is updating, which can get me killed in a lvl 4. and i dont really have the time nor the inclination to chat while blowing stuff up. 5) not brought up - this entire thread assumes ppl only do combat missions ????
CPR FRY	Posted - 2007.03.15 10:51:00 - [39] CCP should fix this issue. I am a paying customer, and i choose where I can play not CCp telling me to moved somewhere else where theres no lag. If not, they should tell people before they sign up that they can only play in the certain area of eve because of the lag. So what happened in a few months when more people sign up? Move again?? thats just stupid..
Buddhabytes Caldari Intel 7	Posted - 2007.03.15 11:08:00 - [40] In agrement That this area needs more resources but I don't belive anyone has made mention of the fleets of Isk sellers currently working these systems missions!!! Funny how they all seem to have simular names to macro/slave labour/ Isk selling minner scum! Anyone with any ideas on harrassing/ganking these mission Isk sellers plz give us a shout. Sorting out these scum should help reduce lag.
Mastin Dragonfly Amarr Navy Runners	Posted - 2007.03.15 11:20:00 - [41] Originally by: CPR FRY CCP should fix this issue. I am a paying customer, and i choose where I can play not CCp telling me to moved somewhere else where theres no lag. If not, they should tell people before they sign up that they can only play in the certain area of eve because of the lag. So what happened in a few months when more people sign up? Move again?? thats just stupid.. Or, you could like accept the reality that technology is not yet at the point that we could have 300 ppl in one system without any lag without paying an unreasonable amount of money just to serve some lazy bums who are too stupid to move over a few systems where there is no problem.
Andrue Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.15 11:22:00 - [42] Edited by: Andrue on 15/03/2007 11:24:17 Originally by: Drizzet Edited by: Drizzet on 12/03/2007 12:02:02 Ok read this whole thread and had to say a few things. First of stop telling the people that are in salia they are dumb and what not they paid their 16 bucks a month or whatever to be able to play where ever they like without lag. Which brings me to point two I or any other mission runner should not have to move because of a lag issue ccp should have to fix it and make game play nominal no matter what that is what we pay for. My last yes there is alot of misconceptions about caldari navy and where the navy issue ships come from big deal I think its realy sad that you guys sit on here and bash people because they make a mistake this issue is not about if they chose the agent they chose for the right reason or not its about the people running missions in that area not being able to carry on their day to day eve lives because the server can not handle the load. Lastly please check my info before you call me a noob or some other dumb crap and think out what you say. Firstly, please use paragraphs (ie;more than one). Secondly while you are essentially correct the point of the OP's post is that he has a problem and wants a solution. Moving to a different agent is a solution. It may not be the solution that the OP wants but that's life. It's very rare to get the perfect solution to a problem and most of the time you have to compromise. In this particular case it doesn't really make any difference what quality agent you are running (at least not when we're talking about the 'top few agents'). People need to get away from this idea of speed advancement mattering. In games like Eve that have no levels and no end game it doesn't matter. In fact for PvE players all that happens if you advance quickly is that you get your toys more quickly then you quit out of boredom. -- (Battle hardened industrialist) [Brackley, UK] Please don't read this signature.
Mabari	Posted - 2007.03.15 13:01:00 - [43] Edited by: Tran Duma on 09/03/2007 23:20:35 Maybe caldari needs more space in empire ,since eve is almost 90% caldari. Since there arn`t much amarr in eve maybe ccp can turn amarr agents into caldari agents and there space also. Seems fair to me.It`s not the gamer that have to pay in lagg.CCP did make caldari uber not the gamer. migth be better to tune down the rewards for caldari agents and tune up rewards for others then. greets Mabari
Kery Nysell Caldari Nysell Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.15 13:34:00 - [44] Originally by: El Sevillano Needed to move agents once a week. CCP should dev a system to do it. And then we would have the logistical nightmare of finding our agent (gone with his total of LPs) where he has moved, and moving our ships and ammo and modules to the new location ? No thanks, that would be another not-needed annoying timesink.

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