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Dungheap
Caldari Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.03.07 22:05:00 -
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150-170 in local. other players in local express bad lag as well. module delay ranging from 15 seconds up to/including total malfunction.
i'd advise against accepting missions in and around this system atm.
petitioning to have bounties removed from wallet and mission cancelled. wish me luck. feel free to quote if you have to petition a ship loss and server log strangely shows no problems.
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Teh Supah
Thorku
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Posted - 2007.03.08 10:01:00 -
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welcome to empire
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Dorque
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Posted - 2007.03.08 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dungheap 150-170 in local. other players in local express bad lag as well. module delay ranging from 15 seconds up to/including total malfunction.
i'd advise against accepting missions in and around this system atm.
petitioning to have bounties removed from wallet and mission cancelled. wish me luck. feel free to quote if you have to petition a ship loss and server log strangely shows no problems.
Kaunokka has been like that for almost a year iirc
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Ghan Tylous
Caldari The Graduates Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.08 10:08:00 -
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It have been said before, in other threads. Isenairos, Salia, Motsu. They all have heavy lag because CCP puts so many lvl 4 agents in these systems or because there are so many mission runners in these systems.
Until CCP moves those lvl 4 agents out of the area, you can find a low Q lvl 4 agent in different corp. Use agent finder. There are lots of other NPC corporations with good lvl 4 agents in systems there are pretty quiet, they are even high sec. --- It have always fallen to a few to sacrifice for the good of many |

Decrepid
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Posted - 2007.03.08 10:09:00 -
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Yup I agree it is indeed unplayable I am currently moving my base back to a lower ql lvl 4 agent started last nite shall fin tonite but i cant be bothered with a petition i will make up the loss in a couple of missions.
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Dammar
Amarr Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.03.08 10:27:00 -
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Do you have any idea how much of empire is empty?
I can sympathize with lag, but I just can't get over the above fact.
MOVE! Racial agents are not confined to their own regions, find them. They are out there.
It's pretty F'n sad if ccp have to actually change the game to get people to spread out. It takes away from the more important stuff they could be doing.
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Cyclops43
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Posted - 2007.03.08 12:20:00 -
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Edited by: Cyclops43 on 08/03/2007 12:16:43 What CCP really should do is remove the Quality of agents totally, and just leave the level. The payout for the mission etc. should then be based on your faction standing.
This would mean that players could use the level 4 agent they wanted to, not having to use the one with the highest Quality. I.e. level 4 mission running would be spread all over empire, not in a select few systems...
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Elain Reverse
Caldari Shokei
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Posted - 2007.03.08 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dammar Do you have any idea how much of empire is empty?
I can sympathize with lag, but I just can't get over the above fact.
MOVE! Racial agents are not confined to their own regions, find them. They are out there.
It's pretty F'n sad if ccp have to actually change the game to get people to spread out. It takes away from the more important stuff they could be doing.
Its not allways so easy find goot agent, For example most ppl do Caldari navy because they have plenty of agents for almost every type of missions.
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr Navy Runners
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Elain Reverse
Originally by: Dammar Do you have any idea how much of empire is empty?
I can sympathize with lag, but I just can't get over the above fact.
MOVE! Racial agents are not confined to their own regions, find them. They are out there.
It's pretty F'n sad if ccp have to actually change the game to get people to spread out. It takes away from the more important stuff they could be doing.
Its not allways so easy find goot agent, For example most ppl do Caldari navy because they have plenty of agents for almost every type of missions.
Not being able to find agents is not an excuse, there are plenty of tools and websites to locate agents. Having several agents in one system/station is a huge advantage though if you can't or don't want to do all missions, you can only decline a mission every 4-5(?) hours.
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F9OOEX
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:09:00 -
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Laggy saila .. CCP do nothing about it 
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Leandro Salazar
Bravehearts Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.08 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: Elain Reverse
Originally by: Dammar Do you have any idea how much of empire is empty?
I can sympathize with lag, but I just can't get over the above fact.
MOVE! Racial agents are not confined to their own regions, find them. They are out there.
It's pretty F'n sad if ccp have to actually change the game to get people to spread out. It takes away from the more important stuff they could be doing.
Its not allways so easy find goot agent, For example most ppl do Caldari navy because they have plenty of agents for almost every type of missions.
In fact most people do Caldari Navy because it is the 'cool' thing if you are clueless, and because they lack the dedication/imagination to get said clue. And I bet it is a common misconception with the mindless Caldari cattle who run the navy missions that you can only get navy ship offers from the navy itself. Which is of course wrong. --------- There is no 'n' in turret There is no 'r' in faction There is no 'a' in Kestrel
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.08 14:41:00 -
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As I see it most long standing players still use those agents because Caldary Navy has the best set of farmable agents in high space.
No other race has a similar concentration of high quality/max level agents in a 2 jump range in the same corporation and with the most sought off fields of activity in high security space.
Hardly a surprise they are farmed, they are set for that.
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Dammar
Amarr Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.03.08 23:42:00 -
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Would've never guessed this was a 'caldari' issue.. 
Anyway, here's the scoop on the 'navies', they suck. Your selection of lvl 4 agents is PATHETIC compared to other corps, because most of them are in lowsec. At least that's the situation with the Amarr Navy, and if it's different with caldari then I want them nerfed into the dirt asap. (i.e. ALL lvl 4 navy agents moved to lowsec.)
As for having trouble finding agents...you well and truly suck if this is an issue.
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MuffinsRevenger
EmpiresMod
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Posted - 2007.03.08 23:58:00 -
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The node running saila/komo/motsu needs more juice, simple as that :) |

Kylar Renpurs
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Posted - 2007.03.09 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Dammar Do you have any idea how much of empire is empty? MOVE! Racial agents are not confined to their own regions, find them. They are out there.
It's pretty F'n sad if ccp have to actually change the game to get people to spread out. It takes away from the more important stuff they could be doing.
QFT.
Sick of people whining 'This system is laggy because everyone comes here for the ONE agent who is Q20 for this faction !11!11!!!!one'
If it's standing increase you're after, there's *more* than one lvl 4 agent who'll offer the *same* standing increase (or close to) in empty systems.
It's the same as Jita. People complain about privateers,,, well dont sell at Station 4-4 ffs. I just fly into any other station where theres,, one,, maybe two people,, outside them in jita, put my goods up for sale, and leave unmolested.
If the lag/griefers are causing too much grief,, sacrifice a tiny fraction of your precious isk per hour to go somewhere a lot more peaceful and free of trash, and stop bugging CCP about it
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GetergdeKaasboer
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Posted - 2007.03.09 01:10:00 -
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move to another agent.
obviously ppl gravitate to the high quality agents.
why complain..... move. i did and am quite happy with a IV - 17 agent in a 0.9 system.
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Bizazedo
Caldari TC Industrial
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Posted - 2007.03.09 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: GetergdeKaasboer move to another agent.
obviously ppl gravitate to the high quality agents.
why complain..... move. i did and am quite happy with a IV - 17 agent in a 0.9 system.
While I do agree that the smart people have moved to a different system by now............
It's still not acceptable to have a star system be unplayable due to lag.
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Asael
Caldari Nathlin Enterprises Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.09 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: Asael on 09/03/2007 08:23:44
Originally by: Ghan Tylous It have been said before, in other threads. Isenairos, Salia, Motsu. They all have heavy lag because CCP puts so many lvl 4 agents in these systems or because there are so many mission runners in these systems.
Until CCP moves those lvl 4 agents out of the area, you can find a low Q lvl 4 agent in different corp. Use agent finder. There are lots of other NPC corporations with good lvl 4 agents in systems there are pretty quiet, they are even high sec.
Or, by using the same link, find a agent having the same, if not better quality rating then agents in Santenpaa in quiet constellations. Oh, and dont mind your LP's. I managed to get up to 1 Mil of LP's in 2 months as a casual player in my area, 50% more then in Santenpaa in the same lenght of time  ______________________________
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Sinder Ohm
Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.09 09:24:00 -
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Edited by: Sinder Ohm on 09/03/2007 09:21:14
Originally by: Venkul Mul As I see it most long standing players still use those agents because Caldary Navy has the best set of farmable agents in high space.
HAHAHAHA I know something you dont I will give you a clue 11 jumps in a certain direction there is a much better caldari agent, which isnt part of the navy.
Originally by: Blind Man okies so liek when u warp in on them u shod target them... and stuff k.then u FIRE ZE MISSILES
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Great Artista
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.09 10:49:00 -
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Step away from the navy agents at once sir.
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Scordef
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Posted - 2007.03.09 11:08:00 -
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I started off working for Caldari Navy back when I was a noob. They were my first level 4 agents. I think I spent a total of about 2 days in Saila/Motsu before moving out.
I have been happily running missions for two level 3 and two level 4 agents for a different corp in a different system ever since. A system where 15-20 players is a busy night.
So... Quit whining about Motsu/Saila being unplayable and move the **** out.
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.03.09 13:13:00 -
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If you are looking for reasonable alternatives then Gekutami (for Caldary) is also quite reasonable system. Granted, agent consentration is a lot lower in there, but if you are willing to take most missions coming your way then it's better than Motsu. L4Q18 (int sec) and L4Q12 (intelligence) agents from combat divisions in there. Also system security of 0.7 gives you a lot better results than 0.9.
For LP farming Hentogaira has also pretty good agent L4Q17 in sec 0.6, altho in there you might get ocasionaly missions in adjacent low sec and then have either to decline them or risk you butt out there.
But yeah, none of them are caldary navy ones. Hentogaira one is Ishukone and Gekutami was Hyasoda I belive.
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Kaptein Trefot
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Posted - 2007.03.09 13:38:00 -
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Edited by: Kaptein Trefot on 09/03/2007 13:39:54 I think every faction has a corp with a leve IV q18 encounter agent (best agent in high sec) in a 0.5 system and that caldari agent is at least in a lag free system.
Tbh its rather scary to see all the ppl who are stupid enough to stay in lag hell when those systems don’t even have the best agents available. But then again that stupidity deserves every bit of lag they get so just keep it as it is CCP! 
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Roy Gordon
Caldari The Star Wolves
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Posted - 2007.03.09 13:41:00 -
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To be honest I know of two lvl 4 agents whose base quality is 18 amd 17 respectively, one of which is in a 0.3 system and another in a 0.7 system, both agents who have hardly any mission runners using them at present. There are agents out there if your willing to look for them. That which does not kill us makes us stronger. The Universe is ruled by three basic principles- Matter, Energy and Enlightened Self-Interest! |

Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.03.09 18:57:00 -
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There are multiple reasons to want to run missions in what have become mission hubs.
1. Multiple level 3/4 agents in one station/system. This is extremely important as you never know when you'll get two missions in a row you need to turn down. You don't want to have to quit playing for 4 hours when this happens.
2. Access to modules/ships/etc. Jita exists for a reason, people like being able to go to 1 spot to get everything. The same applies to mission runners... they like to be able to buy their ammo and mods in their missioning system. Traders like it too as they can make good money marking up items in these systems to keep all the mission runners supplied. It works well for both groups. If everyone spread out across high sec then traders would go out of business and it would force even MORE traffic to Jita as there wouldn't be secondary hubs anymore. Small hubs are very useful for everyone.
3. Access to help on hard missions. I often see people asking in local for people to help out on tougher missions. If there was 5-6 people in your system you'd never get help, but with 100+ people you'll often find someone.
4. Fraternization. Lots of people like to chat while missioning but they havn't yet found a corp they would like to join. So you talk in local while missioning. This is how a lot of people meet each other and decide which corp they wish to join.
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Tran Duma
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Posted - 2007.03.09 23:23:00 -
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Edited by: Tran Duma on 09/03/2007 23:20:35
Maybe caldari needs more space in empire ,since eve is almost 90% caldari. Since there arn`t much amarr in eve maybe ccp can turn amarr agents into caldari agents and there space also. Seems fair to me.It`s not the gamer that have to pay in lagg.CCP did make caldari uber not the gamer.
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Dammar
Amarr Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.03.10 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tran Duma Edited by: Tran Duma on 09/03/2007 23:20:35
Maybe caldari needs more space in empire ,since eve is almost 90% caldari. Since there arn`t much amarr in eve maybe ccp can turn amarr agents into caldari agents and there space also. Seems fair to me.It`s not the gamer that have to pay in lagg.CCP did make caldari uber not the gamer.
There is already caldari agents all over amarr space genius.
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Tran Duma
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Posted - 2007.03.10 13:38:00 -
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??? Not caldari navy,thats where the most are working for ,we need to take Amarr space.Those caldari agents in amarr space are amarr pets.Lets the faction wars beginn.
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Hephaesteus
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.03.11 10:13:00 -
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This is to all the players doing missions in the Motsu, Saila area stay there, because you are better off!!! Some players are trying to mislead you by saying other systems are better for missions, they're not. I mean come on whats more important lots of people to talk to or no lag. Eve is a multiplayer game, so stay in Motsu, Saila and interact. 
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Karann
Minmatar Locus Solus
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Posted - 2007.03.11 11:21:00 -
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how hard can it be? check faction, look at corps, check location, check map? maybe jump in a fast ship and go take a look.
job done.
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