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Held der Finsternis Highsec Corporate Services 100	Posted - 2016.07.15 10:32:18 - [1] - Quote I've played eve for a long time. One day I "lost" 21 accounts in the best way ever. If you have to go, go out with a bang. Isk was handed over, people sang songs and were quite merry, even after handing over all their isk, spaceships, and clothing articles (in game). They even read speeches. The one that never got old was the Code. I loved hearing the Code in all sorts of funny accents. Then some carebear came along and complained loudly. And apparently carebears with pitchforks were scary or something. And then it seemed content creation started to die a quick death. I made some new accounts, excited to start fresh. But highsec was boring. I tried scamming carebears to fight Code, got around 10b or so, but I wanted to claw my eyes and ears out hanging out with carebears and talking with them. I felt my IQ dropped during every interaction. I sold some art. I can't draw, so while the isk was nice, people didn't like rockbob's delivered caricatures lol ganking was fun. And it still is surreal logging in, seeing people randomly start talking about your old character in Jita, want to say something, maybe slightly egg it on, and bite your tongue. You know, because you like playing and don't want to suddenly have to stop... lol but something was missing. The big scam. The seemingly overly complicated handing over of assets in the most complete way possible, in a way where people were laughing and singing as they do it. I missed that. So i started and I stopped. I made new characters, I stole some corps. and so on. Plexed a bunch of friends' accounts to try out the game. They thought eve sucked, so i wasted a lot of plex trying to bring in new players lol But anyway... I decide to scrap my new accounts and start fresh. I'm not sure how long I can reply here, but I'll do my best! so.... I'd greatly appreciate all of your ideas and thoughts. What would you like to see in highsec? Scam ideas, big initiatives, whatever. I'm thinking of starting fresh again, but this time putting some serious resources into making things bigger and better than ever. What would you like to see to save Eve from itself and the carebears? Give me your bucket list, and I'll do my best to make it happen. -your friend always Ero You can always find me on the forum section of Minerbumping.com :o)
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 16861	Posted - 2016.07.15 10:43:34 - [2] - Quote if you could rouse the bears into not being ****ing cowards to a man thatd be great. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Jean Luc Clermont Snuff Box Snuffed Out 1	Posted - 2016.07.15 10:52:44 - [3] - Quote one with a less inflated ego that doesn't need to claim to be awesome?
Chopper Rollins Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1424	Posted - 2016.07.15 13:05:30 - [4] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: What would you like to see in highsec? Hardly any characters over 6 months old? This would completely negate the need for narcissistic drama queens. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Paranoid Loyd 9234	Posted - 2016.07.15 13:52:55 - [5] - Quote You signed your post Ero? So you have been evading your ban with this character the whole time? Or are you some douche impersonating Ero? Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
Lady Ayeipsia Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 1134	Posted - 2016.07.15 13:56:49 - [6] - Quote I would say Crime and Punishment is that way >>.
Keebler Wizard Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2016.07.15 14:16:44 - [7] - Quote The ego is so huge here, I barely squeezed in to make this post. Nobody talks about you in jita. But it sounds like you should still be banned. And I doubt anyone will want to help, because after reading this it seems like youll be on to something new in a short few months.
March rabbit Mosquito squadron The-Culture 1826	Posted - 2016.07.15 14:22:59 - [8] - Quote Yeah, i agree. CCP banning Ero was the best high-sec content for quite long time. The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Soel Reit Dambusters 617 Sq 38	Posted - 2016.07.15 14:25:55 - [9] - Quote hello, who are you?
Sonya Corvinus Static-Noise Upholders 348	Posted - 2016.07.15 14:52:43 - [10] - Quote Who are you and why should we care? Most HS players (PvP and PvE-ers alike) are carebears. How exactly is scamming in HS (a 100% risk free playstyle) not being a carebear? Back to your question though. What does HS need? It needs...less HS. It needs people to risk leaving HS and go to LS/WHs, which are really the only places left in EVE with real risk.

Omar Alharazaad Nefarious Porpoise 2939	Posted - 2016.07.15 14:58:04 - [11] - Quote What I would like to see is dynamic security statuses of systems dependent upon player interaction. Let the masses drive the sec status up and down. Let the masses determine the borders between high and low sec with their deeds. I'm sure in no way this could possibly be abused or manipulated... that bit is sarcasm, but necessary sarcasm. Of course it would be, and as it should be. If they really care they'll shape the world into the image they want. If not, it becomes something else. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Mortlake Devils Rejects 666 2334	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:02:18 - [12] - Quote I'd like to see more people smile. Father to a murdered son. Husband to a murdered wife. Truth be told, I've been pretty unlucky.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2645	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:20:41 - [13] - Quote I would really like to see you take over the ag and ag-intel channels and make something Code compliant out of them. This would greatly reduce the toxicity of the game and make Highsec a better place at the same time. It also has a great potential for some hilarious stories on minerbumping. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2645	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:21:39 - [14] - Quote I would really like to see you take over the ag and ag-intel channels and make something Code compliant out of them. This would greatly reduce the toxicity of the game and make Highsec a better place at the same time. It also has a great potential for some hilarious stories on minerbumping. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Doc Fury Furious Enterprises 8312	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:22:53 - [15] - Quote Whenever a Dev (or Devs) fark something up that gets pushed live in an expansion, they must play the "Running Man" using a toon with less than 1Mil SP, a T1 frigate, and no docking rights. An announcement is made to all players the day before the hunt begins. If they cannot stay alive for their usual 8-hour shift, they get demoted or fired depending on how long they last. Whoever lays the final blow gets a PLEX. Gÿ+ The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper: 'Hodor'.
Omar Alharazaad Nefarious Porpoise 2940	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:29:02 - [16] - Quote ^ can we have this? I like this. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 26322	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:38:20 - [17] - Quote Doc Fury wrote: Whenever a Dev (or Devs) fark something up that gets pushed live in an expansion, they must play the "Running Man" using a toon with less than 1Mil SP, a T1 frigate, and no docking rights. An announcement is made to all players the day before the hunt begins. If they cannot stay alive for their usual 8-hour shift, they get demoted or fired depending on how long they last. Whoever lays the final blow gets a PLEX. Several devs at Riot are giggling at this, because they think they're safe Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Sustrai Aditua Intandofisa 385	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:41:14 - [18] - Quote "CONTENT CREATION" LOL!! Gawd. WHEN will you give it a rest? Content creation. Some marketing geek grabs on that pair of words in hopes it would increase sales, when it's a pair of words that only makes sense to the ilk that plays for free....PLEXES instead of FLEXES. Content creation - military intelligence - bovine scatology I think if High Sec Sovereignty (Minmatar, Caldari, Amarr, Gallente) was enforced against criminals like the Caribbean was (French, English, Spanish, Dutch NAVIES), the bang bang shoot-em up, two-dimensional thinkers (if you call that "thinking" would flee to low sec and ply their trade on one another...content creation? Oh...but there's not enough of them, so they want game management to engineer the game in a way that forces the majority to play like THEY want to play....are we still beating this dead horse? OF COURSE! I still think it's hilarious the focus of the player base, all these killer clones, is on HIGH SEC. There was a time...when the real players played, the game was in NULL. Low was populated by gankers who couldn't make the grade. Now the fixation is on HIGH SEC??? Why don't y'all just surrender? Stop trying to characterize this heroically for your own benefit and call a diamond a diamond...a club a club? (One of those card thingies.) PVE players just want new missions. They have the present set memorized ad nauseum. (And save us from the mongoloids.) If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
Sonya Corvinus Static-Noise Upholders 352	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:51:28 - [19] - Quote Jean Luc Clermont wrote: one with a less inflated ego that doesn't need to claim to be awesome? In his defense, only people who can't actually DO anything need to thump their chests and brag about how great they are...
Jean Luc Clermont Snuff Box Snuffed Out 7	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:54:28 - [20] - Quote Soel Reit wrote: hello, who are you? who is Ero?

Jean Luc Clermont Snuff Box Snuffed Out 8	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:56:01 - [21] - Quote Sonya Corvinus wrote: Jean Luc Clermont wrote: one with a less inflated ego that doesn't need to claim to be awesome? In his defense, only people who can't actually DO anything need to thump their chests and brag about how great they are... not really sure how that statement is "defending" him... and yes.. i know i double posted, I R Forum Fail
Sonya Corvinus Static-Noise Upholders 354	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:58:17 - [22] - Quote Jean Luc Clermont wrote: not really sure how that statement is "defending" him... and yes.. i know i double posted, I R Forum Fail I was hoping my sarcasm was obvious. Threads like this make me cringe. OP had 15 minutes of fame years ago and still thinks it's relevant/can't let it go.
Jean Luc Clermont Snuff Box Snuffed Out 8	Posted - 2016.07.15 15:59:46 - [23] - Quote Sonya Corvinus wrote: Jean Luc Clermont wrote: not really sure how that statement is "defending" him... and yes.. i know i double posted, I R Forum Fail I was hoping my sarcasm was obvious. Threads like this make me cringe. OP had 15 minutes of fame years ago and still thinks it's relevant/can't let it go. Oh... sorry... I my sarcasm radar is failing me today... But really, who the **** is this guy?
Sonya Corvinus Static-Noise Upholders 354	Posted - 2016.07.15 16:05:10 - [24] - Quote Jean Luc Clermont wrote: Oh... sorry... I my sarcasm radar is failing me today... But really, who the **** is this guy? If he is who he claims to be, a guy who got his kicks trolling/messing with people IRL instead of keeping it in game and got banned for it.
Eli Stan Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 549	Posted - 2016.07.15 16:07:15 - [25] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: What would you like to see in highsec? I want to be able to fight in highsec without CONCORD interfering. I want all ships fitted with offensive modules or drones to be exempt from CONCORD or other NPC protection, including mine. I want to take a fleet into a citadel-bashing fleet and wreck them, or be wrecked by them, without bothering with war decs or anybody going criminal. Otherwise defenseless mining, industrial and transport ships, as well as defenseless combat ships, are the only ones that should ever get CONCORD spawns when shot. Ganking ships, Incursion ships, and security mission ships all should only have themselves and other players as protection. In other words, for combat ships highsec should be like NPC null except without bubbles or cynos. In lore terms, CONCORD and NPCs tell us players they're busy dealing with drifters and we should HTFU and protect ourselves if we want to fly with weapons.
Jean Luc Clermont Snuff Box Snuffed Out 8	Posted - 2016.07.15 16:29:26 - [26] - Quote Eli Stan wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: What would you like to see in highsec? I want to be able to fight in highsec without CONCORD interfering. I want all ships fitted with offensive modules or drones to be exempt from CONCORD or other NPC protection, including mine. I want to take a fleet into a citadel-bashing fleet and wreck them, or be wrecked by them, without bothering with war decs or anybody going criminal. Otherwise defenseless mining, industrial and transport ships, as well as defenseless combat ships, are the only ones that should ever get CONCORD spawns when shot. Ganking ships, Incursion ships, and security mission ships all should only have themselves and other players as protection. In other words, for combat ships highsec should be like NPC null except without bubbles or cynos. In lore terms, CONCORD and NPCs tell us players they're busy dealing with drifters and we should HTFU and protect ourselves if we want to fly with weapons. Dude... two words Low and Sec
Brokk Witgenstein Extreme Agony The Wraithguard. 394	Posted - 2016.07.15 17:24:20 - [27] - Quote Why I'd like to see is a cargo hauling service where (1) escorts and intel are provided like a caravan, (2) you actually earn a buck. Unfortunately, lacking (1) nobody pays for transport leading to (2) and no pay (2) leads back to square (1). Furthermore, Ganking is the only thing making (1) a necessity but they're so uncommon and they only have a 30 sec window at most to prevent this from happening- making the threat level practically negligible. Blanket wardecs on the other hand prevent (1) from happening in-corp until said cargo running corp reaches sufficient mass to actually deal with them. For these reasons, haulers stay in NPC corps ensuring (2) does not happen. That's a pity, really.
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12567	Posted - 2016.07.15 17:50:54 - [28] - Quote I am Ero(itcally charged) Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Eli Stan Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 549	Posted - 2016.07.15 18:22:07 - [29] - Quote Jean Luc Clermont wrote: Eli Stan wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: What would you like to see in highsec? I want to be able to fight in highsec without CONCORD interfering. I want all ships fitted with offensive modules or drones to be exempt from CONCORD or other NPC protection, including mine. I want to take a fleet into a citadel-bashing fleet and wreck them, or be wrecked by them, without bothering with war decs or anybody going criminal. Otherwise defenseless mining, industrial and transport ships, as well as defenseless combat ships, are the only ones that should ever get CONCORD spawns when shot. Ganking ships, Incursion ships, and security mission ships all should only have themselves and other players as protection. In other words, for combat ships highsec should be like NPC null except without bubbles or cynos. In lore terms, CONCORD and NPCs tell us players they're busy dealing with drifters and we should HTFU and protect ourselves if we want to fly with weapons. Dude... two words Low and Sec I fight in lowsec fairly often. I want to fight in highsec too, against other combat ships.
March rabbit Mosquito squadron The-Culture 1827	Posted - 2016.07.15 21:50:41 - [30] - Quote you want to fight? Just do it. The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2645	Posted - 2016.07.15 22:07:13 - [31] - Quote Sonya Corvinus wrote: If he is who he claims to be, a guy who got his kicks trolling/messing with people IRL instead of keeping it in game and got banned for it. Maybe you should really read up on the stuff you are commenting about. Not sure why you think this had something to do with RL. He got one of those famous blank reason bans which you get if some dude at CCP has a personal problem with you or if they just want you gone and there is no real reason like an actual TOS/EULA violation (which they would obviously cite instead of just not telling you why you got banned). the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
March rabbit Mosquito squadron The-Culture 1827	Posted - 2016.07.15 22:20:13 - [32] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Sonya Corvinus wrote: If he is who he claims to be, a guy who got his kicks trolling/messing with people IRL instead of keeping it in game and got banned for it. Maybe you should really read up on the stuff you are commenting about. Not sure why you think this had something to do with RL. You wouldn't believe but every character in this game is controlled by real person. Scary i know The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Sonya Corvinus Static-Noise Upholders 361	Posted - 2016.07.15 22:31:20 - [33] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Maybe you should really read up on the stuff you are commenting about. Not sure why you think this had something to do with RL. He got one of those famous blank reason bans which you get if some dude at CCP has a personal problem with you or if they just want you gone and there is no real reason like an actual TOS/EULA violation (which they would obviously cite instead of just not telling you why you got banned). Appreciate the salt, code salt is best salt. Anything in comms that has nothing to do with the game (ie, any bonus room, really) is just children acting like 12 year olds. Keep it in game please. That being said, I'm proud of you for writing something new instead of copy/pasting the same four messages you post here. Way to go! Plz though, I do love the salt. Keep it coming.
Kaldi Tsukaya Deveron Shipyards and Technology 263	Posted - 2016.07.16 00:35:08 - [34] - Quote Origami. Little spaceship origami.
Galaxy Pig New Order Logistics CODE. 1052	Posted - 2016.07.16 00:45:00 - [35] - Quote No matter what's going on here, I love this thread. Nice post OP! As for content ideas... pudding? Can we do pudding? *Highsec is owned by players now.* Systems 0.5-1.0 are New Order Territory. All miners and other residents of Highsec must obey The Code. Mining without a permit is dangerous and harmful to the EVE community. See www.MinerBumping.com
Empire Raider Spicy Onion Rings 0	Posted - 2016.07.16 01:30:47 - [36] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: You signed your post Ero? So you have been evading your ban with this character the whole time? Or are you some douche impersonating Ero? Right? And the funny part is that he is either getting banned for evading his ban or for impersonating another player. RIP another troll who didn't read the EULA
Caco De'mon New Order Logistics CODE. 0	Posted - 2016.07.16 01:43:55 - [37] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: What would you like to see to save Eve from itself and the carebears? A 5th empire...Hub, enforced borders,citizenship, etc...
Sustrai Aditua Intandofisa 391	Posted - 2016.07.16 10:26:30 - [38] - Quote content creation...hooboy, youkillme...players playing a game "creating content". The "playing devs". Oh my. Youkillme. If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.
Hengle Teron Order In Disorder Curatores Veritatis Alliance 60009	Posted - 2016.07.16 17:55:23 - [39] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Sonya Corvinus wrote: If he is who he claims to be, a guy who got his kicks trolling/messing with people IRL instead of keeping it in game and got banned for it. Maybe you should really read up on the stuff you are commenting about. Not sure why you think this had something to do with RL. He got one of those famous blank reason bans which you get if some dude at CCP has a personal problem with you or if they just want you gone and there is no real reason like an actual TOS/EULA violation (which they would obviously cite instead of just not telling you why you got banned). Yep, looking to break a guy mentally into quitting your "minigame" after you scammed all his ingame assets is obviously still part of the "ingame".
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2647	Posted - 2016.07.16 21:15:59 - [40] - Quote Hengle Teron wrote: Yep, looking to break a guy mentally into quitting your "minigame" after you scammed all his ingame assets is obviously still part of the "ingame". Sounds pretty ingame to me, since they scammed him for ingame assets and they made a great effort to keep everything ingame. Not sure what you mean by "break a guy", they simply requested that he sings songs to get his stuff back. Does not sound too serious if you ask me. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014

Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 12587	Posted - 2016.07.16 21:26:12 - [41] - Quote Eli Stan wrote: I want to be able to fight in highsec without CONCORD interfering. I want all ships fitted with offensive modules or drones to be exempt from CONCORD or other NPC protection, including mine. I want to take a fleet into a citadel-bashing fleet and wreck them, or be wrecked by them, without bothering with war decs or anybody going criminal. Otherwise defenseless mining, industrial and transport ships, as well as defenseless combat ships, are the only ones that should ever get CONCORD spawns when shot. Ganking ships, Incursion ships, and security mission ships all should only have themselves and other players as protection. In other words, for combat ships highsec should be like NPC null except without bubbles or cynos. In lore terms, CONCORD and NPCs tell us players they're busy dealing with drifters and we should HTFU and protect ourselves if we want to fly with weapons. Hey...you're an NPC. Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi . Bumble's Space Log
Frostys Virpio Yet another corpdot. 2965	Posted - 2016.07.16 21:54:36 - [42] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Hengle Teron wrote: Yep, looking to break a guy mentally into quitting your "minigame" after you scammed all his ingame assets is obviously still part of the "ingame". Sounds pretty ingame to me, since they scammed him for ingame assets and they made a great effort to keep everything ingame. Not sure what you mean by "break a guy", they simply requested that he sings songs to get his stuff back. Does not sound too serious if you ask me. I will accept that this is "in game" as soon as you demonstrate in game how a character can sing. If you can't, then obviously it was out of game.
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 2647	Posted - 2016.07.16 22:25:17 - [43] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Hengle Teron wrote: Yep, looking to break a guy mentally into quitting your "minigame" after you scammed all his ingame assets is obviously still part of the "ingame". Sounds pretty ingame to me, since they scammed him for ingame assets and they made a great effort to keep everything ingame. Not sure what you mean by "break a guy", they simply requested that he sings songs to get his stuff back. Does not sound too serious if you ask me. I will accept that this is "in game" as soon as you demonstrate in game how a character can sing. If you can't, then obviously it was out of game. You join a channel where EVE voice is activated and start singing the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
perpetua Isimazu Perkone Caldari State 1	Posted - 2016.07.16 22:47:16 - [44] - Quote Why do some folk just automatically assume that high sec dwellers want or need content creation? Why do some folk insist that carebears 'need' to leave high sec and go to low/null/whs? This game is supposed to be a sandbox, where folk get to choose what they'd like to try and do, not some exercise in bashing round pegs into square holes. Bashing pegs into holes is an entirely different kind of game to Eve.... and one aimed at infants.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 16878	Posted - 2016.07.16 22:58:58 - [45] - Quote perpetua Isimazu wrote: Why do some folk just automatically assume that high sec dwellers want or need content creation? Why do some folk insist that carebears 'need' to leave high sec and go to low/null/whs? This game is supposed to be a sandbox, where folk get to choose what they'd like to try and do, not some exercise in bashing round pegs into square holes. Bashing pegs into holes is an entirely different kind of game to Eve.... and one aimed at infants. its a sand box, ill bash round pegs into square holes if i damn well please and if you have a problem with that ill hit you with my big safety mallet till you cry its op. this being an sandbox and all its on you to stop me. Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Chewytowel Haklar Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 217	Posted - 2016.07.17 02:58:02 - [46] - Quote I think the game is as good as the people you meet in it. If you meet the wrong people it sucks, but when you meet the right ones the sparks begin to fly. The problem is finding those people to make content with, and most of them likely don't give a damn about these forums or even reddit.
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7617	Posted - 2016.07.17 03:41:21 - [47] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Hengle Teron wrote: Yep, looking to break a guy mentally into quitting your "minigame" after you scammed all his ingame assets is obviously still part of the "ingame". Sounds pretty ingame to me, since they scammed him for ingame assets and they made a great effort to keep everything ingame. Not sure what you mean by "break a guy", they simply requested that he sings songs to get his stuff back. Does not sound too serious if you ask me. I will accept that this is "in game" as soon as you demonstrate in game how a character can sing. If you can't, then obviously it was out of game. Is this about singing ransoms again? I don't know why I have to keep posting this. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Frostys Virpio Yet another corpdot. 2965	Posted - 2016.07.17 05:09:47 - [48] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Hengle Teron wrote: Yep, looking to break a guy mentally into quitting your "minigame" after you scammed all his ingame assets is obviously still part of the "ingame". Sounds pretty ingame to me, since they scammed him for ingame assets and they made a great effort to keep everything ingame. Not sure what you mean by "break a guy", they simply requested that he sings songs to get his stuff back. Does not sound too serious if you ask me. I will accept that this is "in game" as soon as you demonstrate in game how a character can sing. If you can't, then obviously it was out of game. Is this about singing ransoms again? I don't know why I have to keep posting this. Your entire argument is someone didn't care about having to do something so it must always be ok. This is a flawed argument and also entirely miss the point I was making about it being out of game... I'm sorry you had to link something irrelevant I guess...
Remiel Pollard Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 7617	Posted - 2016.07.17 05:30:11 - [49] - Quote Frostys Virpio wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: Frostys Virpio wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Hengle Teron wrote: Yep, looking to break a guy mentally into quitting your "minigame" after you scammed all his ingame assets is obviously still part of the "ingame". Sounds pretty ingame to me, since they scammed him for ingame assets and they made a great effort to keep everything ingame. Not sure what you mean by "break a guy", they simply requested that he sings songs to get his stuff back. Does not sound too serious if you ask me. I will accept that this is "in game" as soon as you demonstrate in game how a character can sing. If you can't, then obviously it was out of game. Is this about singing ransoms again? I don't know why I have to keep posting this. Your entire argument is someone didn't care about having to do something so it must always be ok. This is a flawed argument and also entirely miss the point I was making about it being out of game... I'm sorry you had to link something irrelevant I guess... Except it's not irrelevant. It's CCP's direct endorsement of singing ransoms. Here's the thing, you get an option, no one's forcing you to do it. You don't have to get your stuff back, or save your ship, or whatever. That's entirely your choice. At the end of the day, you've already lost it anyway, and the singing ransom is merely an option you're given to get it back. There are any number of uncomfortable situations that players can be forced into in this game by simple virtue of it being the single-shard sandbox that it is. Is discomfort, or "I'm not okay with that", a reason to make it not allowed? No, of course not, or ganking would be banned. The singing ransom is no exception, and this isn't the only example of CCP stating in no uncertain terms that singing ransoms are fine. Your personal problem with that is the only thing not relevant here. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
ISD Max Trix ISD Community Communications Liaisons 282	Posted - 2016.07.17 14:26:37 - [50] - Quote This thread has gone crazy. There is no discussion of what is a bannable offense permitted in the forums. Thread closed. ISD Max Trix Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department *I do not respond to Evemails.*



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