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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2016.07.29 14:23:31 -
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Hi,
The contract changes on Singularity are now ready for public testing. Please help us out and test your use cases for contracts and make sure that everything works as expected! A devblog is currently being written, but here are the main changes:
Contracts in Citadels
- All normal functionality of contracts should also work in Citadels
- Accepting contracts in Citadels is on your own risk regarding docking access (see also next section) - there are appropriate warning messages displayed
- Contract search: Contracts in Citadels without docking access are hidden by default (through the "exclude unreachable" filter)
- Citadel explosion (+unanchoring): Active item exchange and auction contracts are being canceled, content moved to asset safety. The destination of courier contracts in progress is being moved to default asset safety location (except wormholes).
Planned, but not available yet
- Notifications for canceled / modified contracts: Should be done next week
- Ability to finish a contract from outside a citadel without docking access: Will very likely be added in a follow-up patch
Other related changes
- It is now possible to search for Citadels (only citadels with docking access will be returned)
- All citadels were renamed to include the system name
- Increased contract limitations: Max contract size to 1,200,000m3, max item stacks from 200 to 500, max ISK value to 10 trillion
Known issues:
- Missing text in popup for naming a Citadel the same as an existing Citadel
- The default "Exclude unreachable" option is not properly displayed as checked
- Unable to create a contract from the 1st division of a corp office in a citadel
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2016.07.29 16:14:35 -
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Sandor Neko wrote:helana Tsero wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:Hi, Other related changes
- All citadels were renamed to include the system name
Why ? Will just look stupid... alot of corps like their creative citadel names. Why are you ruining it ? Because without that you write freeport in target citadel name and you get hundreds of results. Equivalent with other names too. There are not a lot of creative people around.
Yeah, this was mostly done to allow for searching for citadels consistently, but it also solves other problems and edge-cases (like some players being "too" creative with naming).
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2016.07.29 16:39:33 -
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Scotsman Howard wrote:I agree with the 200 number. I am not sure where the 2000 came from. 1 item is a stack by itself. You can also ship hundreds of thousands of trit in one stack, so the 2000 number makes no sense.
The 2000 limit is for the total amount of item stacks, including items within containers. I am personally a bit concerned about increasing this limit, as it would affect server and client performance.
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2016.07.29 17:18:34 -
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Messenger Of Truth wrote:I was hoping we'd see more flexibility with contract length. Speed of delivery is sometimes really important. The increased size limit is sensible, given the changes to freighters. Regarding contract length changes: It is not in this package, but we have also not decided against adding more options in the future. I think it would be best to post a good suggestion into the devblog thread, as soon as the devblog is out.
@Wibla: I am sure that it would not kill the server, but it would affect the performance negatively (I made some measurements already). Is there any specific reason, why you would like an increase in this limit?
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2016.07.29 17:31:28 -
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Lillian Dekar wrote:Can't you currently get around this anyway by putting the stacks into a container and contracting the container? Exactly in this case the 2000 item limit applies (and not the 200 item limit, which was now increased to 500 items)
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2016.07.29 17:34:14 -
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Lillian Dekar wrote:Winter Archipelago wrote:Will revoking access to a Citadel after the contract has been accepted trigger the change to the Asset Safety location? If not, it's going to be pretty easy to set up contracts to a Citadel you control, then revoke access once the contract has been accepted. Hauler Beware at a minimal risk to the scammer in this case, especially when a single scam will pay for the cost of an Astrahus. the "Ability to finish a contract from outside a citadel without docking access: Will very likely be added in a follow-up patch" would help with this... Exactly this. For now it is your own risk to accept a courier contract to a citadel, if you are not sure that your access will not be removed.
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2016.07.29 18:48:57 -
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"able to set destination to a citadel from saved bookmarks" - I'll investigate after the weekend
Assets API: I'll ask around after the weekend, but this is not really for my team and I am not sure what is possible there.
Grookshank wrote:Can we get some info on contract taxes and broker fees? They seem to be the same on SiSi right now. Nothing changed regarding taxes and broker fees (everything goes to NPCs).
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2016.07.29 22:36:41 -
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@Andrew Xadi: We did not change anything for Outposts so far (as far as I know), and it is not really a priority. Sorry.
Eonan Dmalum wrote:Couple of things.
1. Remote contracting of assets within citadels does not work, is this intended?
2. Contract copying does not auto-split stacked items, is this intended?
Thanks! ad 1) The right-click menu option is still missing in many cases - this is not intended and should be fixed soon. You should be able to remote-contract through manually selecting the citadel in the 2nd step of contract creation.
ad 2) I'll need to look into this, probably not intended.
If something works in stations (on TQ), then it should also work in Citadels (on Sisi). Feel free to send bug reports in those cases (F12 - Report Bug).
@Zetadelta333: Remote delivery *should* work the same as in stations, as far as I know.
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2016.07.30 22:20:02 -
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Bienator II wrote:would increasing the max stack limit for the station hangar cause problems too? I don't know how its calculated but i am in one station at around 900 stacks and i can't repackage stuff anymore. Happens almost every time i move.
The limit for item stacks in a station hangar is at 1000 (but including the ship hangar) and it is there for performance reasons. There are still a few methods for going a bit above this limit (for example through contracts), but having too many items in one location slows down both the server and the client.
Blacksmoke16: Not planned yet, but this might be a nice improvement.
Bella Mingo: For now at least it will be completely your risk if you want to accept courier contracts, while you are not in the pickup location. A cooldown for docking rights is probably not doable, as it might lead to other abuse cases. Immediate asset safety might be an interesting option to discuss for the future, but it might also be problematic (for example as the plastic wrap is just a normal item in the item hangar).
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2016.07.31 16:27:31 -
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Sootsia wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:Hi,
Increased contract limitations: Max contract size to 1,200,000m3, max item stacks from 200 to 500, max ISK value to 10 trillion If something works in stations (on TQ), then it should also work in Citadels (on Sisi). Feel free to send bug reports in those cases (F12 - Report Bug).
Not sure If I am understanding this correctly, whereas one can contract capitals in a station, I think the numbers given by CCP Habakuk prevents one from doing so in a citadel, let alone what one would presume to be able to do in a Keepstar, contracting of Titans and Supers.
Oh, the max contract size is only for courier contracts - other contracts have no limited volume (as far as I know). I clarified this now also in the original post.
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CCP Habakuk
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Posted - 2016.08.02 19:26:53 -
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King Creator wrote:Any progress on the API thing? I discussed it with the relevant team and they will look further into it. It seems like it should be possible, but we cannot promise anything yet - and there is for sure no eta for it.
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