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Lore Isander Caldari Sybrite Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.17 15:50:00 - [31] Dual Rep or Gankmega. ---
Kai Lae Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.17 20:13:00 - [32] Originally by: Lore Isander Dual Rep or Gankmega. Pretty much. The bonus means dual reps are the best solution on this ship. If you want moar alfa, use a mega, as the extra low allows more MFS to obliterate the enemy before he knows what has happened to him. Raptor and Ares Fix
Welture	Posted - 2007.06.17 20:16:00 - [33] if your looking for a single rep fit on hyp then dmg fit is probably the way to go seeing as your not aiming to take advantage of the rep bonus so fit neutrons + 3 mag stabs + 1 large rep and the rest just basic stuff and tank and the rigs can be watever tbh
Vasiliyan The Flying Swan	Posted - 2007.06.18 09:53:00 - [34] Originally by: babo apparently rails will be used more in fleet after tuesday Why? I'm not seeing any obvious references to them in the huge patch notes.
kill0rbunny Alpha-Hirogen Phoenix Allianz	Posted - 2007.06.18 10:21:00 - [35] Edited by: kill0rbunny on 18/06/2007 10:20:31 Edited by: kill0rbunny on 18/06/2007 10:20:19 Originally by: Grekken Why dont many people use Rails for pvp ? Have you ever done real pvp? Rail Mega is maybe the most used ship in fleet warfare. I pew therefore I am.
Jin Entres Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.18 10:34:00 - [36] Originally by: Kai Lae Originally by: Lore Isander Dual Rep or Gankmega. Pretty much. The bonus means dual reps are the best solution on this ship. If you want moar alfa, use a mega, as the extra low allows more MFS to obliterate the enemy before he knows what has happened to him. With a full rack of blasters dual reps are unsustainable, and moreso if you're nossed (which you really have to assume when designing setups these days). Using no reps at all is just wasting the bonus so it's better to use a mega because an extra low vs mid and more tracking is better than one hardpoint. But single repper can be good, and with rigs actually almost reach the performance of dual reppers as mounted on ships without the bonus (or rigs). With a slot saved you can also push for more damage, which makes for a rather balanced and capable setup. Here's the setup I use. DPS is approximately 1138 (w/ Void) when drones are included; repper does 127 hp/s which with average resistances can sustain 402.5 raw DPS. The target painter can be switched for ECCM, TC or another web depending on need. ---
NWA	Posted - 2007.06.29 17:54:00 - [37] im a fan of te setup above, but lately ive been toying with this one and it seems to be working well. high: 8x electron blaster II's mid: 1x MWD 1x web 1x warp disrupter 1x heavy cap injector 1x target painter (in gang)/ tracking comp (solo) low: 2x Large Armor Rep II's 1x DCU 1x armor kinetic hardener II 1x armor Thermic Hardener II 1x armor explosive Hardener II
Tvaishk Suzuki	Posted - 2007.07.04 12:29:00 - [38] I've read the thred on this and I know I'm nothig of an exspert and have done very little pvp but I'm thinking what about only fitting 6 blasters and then adding two heavy nos that would help with runing the dule reps and counter some of the nosing you'd be getting from a nos domi ect. as for the other fittings I'n not realy sure at all, my fittings at present have only realy been for mission running so feture cap rechargers and hardeners. anyway anyone have thought on this idea?
Billy Hardcore	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:15:00 - [39] For solo, NOS is the way to easy victory. Outtank their damage, drain their cap, win. Be sure to fit a skirt on.
Kunming adeptus gattacus Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.07.09 13:06:00 - [40] Originally by: Bazman A Single repper really doesn't cut it in PVP today. Dual reps will give you the repping power needed to survive a gank squad long enough to jump through a gate and the like. I'm fielding this setup atm: 8 x Neutron II's Shadow Serp AB, Fleeting Web, Warp Disrupter II, Heavy Cap Booster II, Sensor Booster II 2 x Large Rep II, 2 x EANM II, DC II, Mag Stab II 3 x Grid Rigs. 4 x Ogre II's. Does good damage at good range, and tanks as good as most Ion setups. CPU screws with this setup though, its like a giant pillbox in space, mowing down anything that gets in its way. Far too slow though. Because of the CPU limitations, i might be forced to adapt an Ion setup of some sort. I just don't like not having an MWD. Looks very similar to my setup. You dont need an MWD when u can reach 30km ranges with Null ammo, I sometimes even fit a falloff rig, nice in gangs where reaching ur target with guns rather than engines is a big advantage. Also 4 EC-900 or EV-900 drones, or even better 5 EC-600 + 5 EV-600 will help you more than the slight DPS increase from 4 Ogre IIs... but who am I telling that I really wished the hyperion didnt have such a limiting bonus. I hate that armor rep bonus with a passion; a mass reduction or falloff bonus would have made it a real blasterboat instead of an armor tanking boat with blasters!.. same goes for brutix btw. Quote: READ THIS NEXT PART CAREFULLY AS IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND POSTING A REPLY WITHOUT READING IT MAY RESULT IN YOU LOOKING STUPID.
Arial Stargazer The Evil Pirates	Posted - 2007.10.16 13:17:00 - [41] I just got this ship WTF am i supposed to do with it? Gallentes answer to a blasterboat..... errrm that's the mega isn't it. Anyways the 5 mid slots are nice and it allows you to fit 2 cap injectors to fuel your dual LAR's. 7x Ion Blaster Cannon II [Caldari Navy Antimatter] 1x X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator 1x Warp Disrupter II 1x Medium Cap Injector II 1x Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I 1x 100 MWD 1x Kinetic Hardner II 1x Thermal Hardner II 1x Explosive Hardner II 1x DC II 2x Large Armor Repairer II Rigs 1x Explosive resistance 2x Armour repair speed II (from 12 seconds down to 8 seconds for a LAR cycle) I know i've dropped a gun but that was nessary for the 2nd LAR. You could always replace it with a MAR and maybe get that 8th Ion II on back on there but this is a TANK setup. I wanted to go for instant repping and something a bit different with the rigs and I have BS 5 so I get plenty of repair amount already, its just more about managing your cap then. Oh yeah stick as many cap 800's in your cargo hold as poss they are your life blood when flying this hyp. I cant even be asked to talk drones, meh 4 heavies only. I went 5*medium ECM & 5 Hammerhead II's.
mentalmonkey Gallente	Posted - 2007.10.16 17:50:00 - [42] I was thinking about buying one of these, after looking at a few fits for the hype I was wondering about single LAR tank with rigs for rep speed and amount rather than cap, im still not convinced so think i will have to leave it for a while.
Niffetin Gallente CONsordium Infinate	Posted - 2007.10.16 17:54:00 - [43] Originally by: Mighty Baz Edited by: Mighty Baz on 13/03/2007 08:58:54 Highs: 8x neutron II's (void) Mids: 1x MWD II 1x 90% web (in small gang - trackin comp II) 1x 20km Scrambler (in small gamg - tracking comp II) 1x med Cap incjector (2x 400) 1x Magnetometric ECCM (or a sensor booster) Lows: 1x LAR II 1x EANM II's 1x Damage Control II 3x Mag-stab II's Rigs: 3 x Auxilary Nano Pump I's Drones: 10x Medium valkyrie II dmg modyfier 8,78, rof 4,7, repair 1700/11.25s DPS 895 (void L) without drons !!! drons to kill drons, ceptors, cruisers, HACs, recons etc classic dmg short dealer with good enough repair bonus (like a 2x LAR II) Damage mod 8.78? Surgical Strike lvl 1? Large Spec lvl 1? BS lvl 1? Whatcha smoking? 10.2x here (give or take 0.1x) with Surgical V, BS IV and Large Spec III. Oh and 3 Mag Stabs. --- [WTS] Void L / Armageddon / Myrmidon / Antimatter XL / Mobile Large Warp Disruptor I
bldyannoyed Un4seen Development	Posted - 2007.10.16 18:18:00 - [44] Although I'm still not convinced this ship is ever any better than a Megathron when it comes to blasting here is the setup i fit ( needs 3% turret cpu reduction to fit ) 8x Ion II Quad Lif MWD, J5b webber, x5 scram, 2x Medium Electrochem Injector w/ 800's 2x LAR II, 2x EANMII, DCU II, MFS II 2x Aux Nano Pump, Anti Explosive Pump Doesnt require expensive ACR's to fit, and there are hundreds of cpu implants on the market for about 2 mill each. 80/67/67/65 resists, about 800 dps depending on drones and skillls. The cap will hold as long as you have injector charges, which is all any dual rep tank on any pvp ship these days can hope for. And running dual LAR II with bs 5 and the 2 rigs means it boosts over 3000 armor every 11.25 secs.
Sivlar Sylvannathas Gallente Placid Reborn	Posted - 2007.11.12 07:15:00 - [45] Edited by: Sivlar Sylvannathas on 12/11/2007 07:17:52 Not sure what I am doing wrong, but I just cannot seem to fit 8x ions with 2x LAR II's like most are suggesting. Ship runs out of cpu real fast, not having problems on grid though. I can seem to do a 4x ionII, 4x electron II with 2x LAR II without going over on cpu grid. http://www.placidreborn.net
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.11.12 09:13:00 - [46] If T2 Rigs were cheaper this is a nice fit. 8x Neutron Blasters T2. Void and null for all round gankage 1x Mwd T2 1x Fleeting web 1x Faint Warp 1x Heavy Electrochemical Cap Booster 1x Med T2 Cap Booster 1x Accomm Repper 2x Eanm T2 1x IFFA1 2x Mag Stabs T2 To get this to fit you need A T2 Ancillary Current Router which costs more than 2 Hyperions put together 2x ANP for a repping boost If you can afford it or build your own rigs this is a great fit. The 5th mid gives a lot of versatility drop the med cap booster fit a t2 repper and go for something else in the 5th mid. 4 heavy ecm drones
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.12 10:19:00 - [47] I am still trainign for Gallente ships, But my vision of how will i setup my future hyperion is somethign around this 2 LAR II 1 MAG Stab II 2 EANM II 1 DC II H-Cap Booster II Fleet Web MWD II 1 Sensor Boosters 1 Scramble (not enough cpu for T2) 6 ION II 2 NEutron II 1 Anciliary rig 2 Auxiliar pumps. Fit with a PG implant. A bit over 1k dps and tanks near 800 dps on average. But hyperion is a tricky ship. Only 6 low slots make it have the same gank/tank issues of the tempest. I personnaly woudl love Hyp and mega to switch layouts, Mkign mega the best sniper and hyperion the best blaster. As of now you need to put some moeny for faction stuff to make it GOOD. Replace The tank for Ammar navy (repairer and EANM) and you can upgrade 1 more gun and fit better tackling gear. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Athryn	Posted - 2007.11.12 12:39:00 - [48] El Torrent, if you want to use a Hype its greatest advantage is to tank and tank good that it does well and with sufficient dps to break any tank. with AWU 5, and armor comps L4 kin, therm L5 em, exp I get 80 em 80 exp, 74 kin, 74 therm 7 Tech 2 Ions, 1 Med. Dim. Nos MWD, T2 Heavy Cap Booster, WEB, 24 km Scram, ECCM Magnetometric 2 LAR T2, DCU T2, Exp. Hardener T2, 2 EANM T2 Rigs: Exp, Kin, Therm -15 cap booster 800s in cargo hold -with BS 5 Reppers do 1100 each Had a run in with an abbadon gave him a run for his money tanked his guns and more I only had to burst my second repper every so often, in gangs this is a solid set up it will run for a long time with 15 cap boosters in your hold you can out last almost any ship out there while still dishing out good dps.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.11.12 15:16:00 - [49] Originally by: Athryn El Torrent, if you want to use a Hype its greatest advantage is to tank and tank good that it does well and with sufficient dps to break any tank. with AWU 5, and armor comps L4 kin, therm L5 em, exp I get 80 em 80 exp, 74 kin, 74 therm 7 Tech 2 Ions, 1 Med. Dim. Nos MWD, T2 Heavy Cap Booster, WEB, 24 km Scram, ECCM Magnetometric 2 LAR T2, DCU T2, Exp. Hardener T2, 2 EANM T2 Rigs: Exp, Kin, Therm -15 cap booster 800s in cargo hold -with BS 5 Reppers do 1100 each Had a run in with an abbadon gave him a run for his money tanked his guns and more I only had to burst my second repper every so often, in gangs this is a solid set up it will run for a long time with 15 cap boosters in your hold you can out last almost any ship out there while still dishing out good dps. well the bad side is , THIS setup does NOT have enough DPS to break a heavy tank. Anything like a Maelstrom,Typhoon etc will tank you forever. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Sivlar Sylvannathas Gallente Placid Reborn Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.11.12 19:09:00 - [50] I've played with different configs all morning and this is the best I could come up with. I still don't know how you guys are doing 2x LAR II's with 8x Ion II's. CPU grid gets eaten up by the time I put on the 4th Ion II. I have AWU 4 trained up, but that only helps power grid needs. I also have that -3% turret cpu need implant. For extra power I can always slap on a Aux Current Router Rig or two, but CPU is what is killing me. Here is what I got, if anyone can give me some suggestions it would be greatly appriciated. 4x Ion Blaster Cannon II [Void] 4x Electron Blaster Cannon II [Void] 1x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor 1x Fleeting Warp Scrambler 1x F-90 Position Sensor Subroutines 1x Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I [800] 1x 100 MWD II 2x EANM II 1x DCU II 1x Mag Stab II 2x Large Armor Repairer II Rigs 1x Nano Pump Drones 5x Valkrie II's 5x Vespa EC-600's
Naviset	Posted - 2007.11.12 19:15:00 - [51] Please go run yalls numbers again using a Megathron. Using a hyperion is totally pointless for most of these setups when a thron tanks just as well with the same amount of damage in most cases for 50mil isk difference. Hyperion: 5 slot tank it or use a Mega!
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2007.11.12 20:29:00 - [52] Originally by: Naviset Please go run yalls numbers again using a Megathron. Using a hyperion is totally pointless for most of these setups when a thron tanks just as well with the same amount of damage in most cases for 50mil isk difference. Hyperion: 5 slot tank it or use a Mega! LOL. You guys should really watch my vids, and note my setups in them. These days a Hype is superior to a Mega (using really maxed out fits). I have maxed skills for both Hype and Mega, and the best of all associated implants etc. Single rep Ion Hype will outlast a Neutron Blasterthron. Besides, a Neutron Blasterthron has to use faction just to get stuff to fit (1-2 CPU left over max, even with faction), while the Hype can fit everything easily, using bog standard T2. Don't even need to use an IFFA or best named 20km scram. Dual LAR Neutron Hypes are ridiculous, as that setup is totally unsustainable with a large cap injector. Even with two medium injectors, you're STILL going to cap out very fast. The best Hype setup IMO is a combo plate/rep setup with Ion IIs, as it gives you the best combination of DPS, tank, and cap efficiency. There will always be fights where the target can tank your peak DPS 100%, and this happens more often than not, so the days of solo killing with blaster ships are pretty much over, if it's a fair fight that is (evenly skilled players with correctly fit ships). Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Antodias North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.02.06 23:58:00 - [53] Having been a Thron pilot for ages, decided to start messing about with Hyperion setups on SiSi. Tried some setups from here but so far best one was this: 8x Ion Blaster Cannon II Named MWD, X5, Warp Disruptor II, Heavy Cap Booster II, whatever you want in here (usually TD for me) 2x LAR II, DCU II, 3x hardeners Rigs: EM (for the upcoming change), Explosive and Thermic pump 4x Ogre IIs I personally begrudge not having a magstab on a blasterboat, but it seems to still have a good damage output and tanks quite well. Resists are about ~75% average. Now the cap is on a knife edge, but to be honest I don't find it any different from virtually any thron setup. In fact if anything a little more cap stable. Still, I'll have to take this setup out in the real server to see how it copes. ------------------------------------ Politically Correct since 2007. No really.
Corwain Gallente Blue.	Posted - 2008.02.07 03:29:00 - [54] Edited by: Corwain on 07/02/2008 03:30:40 Swear to god this is on my Hype right now and is not stolen from Bellum Eternus! ;-) 8x Ion II 100mn MWD II, Heavy Cap Booster II w/ 800s, 20km scram, 2x x5 Webs LAR II, 2x EANM II, 1x DC II, 1600mm plate, Magstab II 1x Rep amount rig, 2x Armor amount rigs 4x Ogre II EDIT: Max skills gives you about 1000dps, 20k armor buffer, and 112 hp/s armor regen. --
El Torrent Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2008.02.07 06:32:00 - [55] Originally by: Antodias Having been a Thron pilot for ages, decided to start messing about with Hyperion setups on SiSi. Tried some setups from here but so far best one was this: 8x Ion Blaster Cannon II Named MWD, X5, Warp Disruptor II, Heavy Cap Booster II, whatever you want in here (usually TD for me) 2x LAR II, DCU II, 3x hardeners Rigs: EM (for the upcoming change), Explosive and Thermic pump 4x Ogre IIs I personally begrudge not having a magstab on a blasterboat, but it seems to still have a good damage output and tanks quite well. Resists are about ~75% average. Now the cap is on a knife edge, but to be honest I don't find it any different from virtually any thron setup. In fact if anything a little more cap stable. Still, I'll have to take this setup out in the real server to see how it copes. How did you manage to fit this. Did they Boost Hyperion Powergrid on SiSi? --
Bellum Eternus Gallente Death of Virtue Sex Panthers	Posted - 2008.02.07 07:37:00 - [56] Originally by: Corwain Edited by: Corwain on 07/02/2008 03:30:40 Swear to god this is on my Hype right now and is not stolen from Bellum Eternus! ;-) 8x Ion II 100mn MWD II, Heavy Cap Booster II w/ 800s, 20km scram, 2x x5 Webs LAR II, 2x EANM II, 1x DC II, 1600mm plate, Magstab II 1x Rep amount rig, 2x Armor amount rigs 4x Ogre II EDIT: Max skills gives you about 1000dps, 20k armor buffer, and 112 hp/s armor regen. Joo stold mah setupz! Lol. Similar, but not exactly the same. I think the Trimarks would be good if you don't have slaves. Heck, might even be better than rep amount/cycle time rigs even with slaves. It's pretty close to what I use though. Bellum Eternus [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y [Vid] L E G E N D A R Y I I
Antodias North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2008.02.07 13:21:00 - [57] Originally by: El Torrent How did you manage to fit this. Did they Boost Hyperion Powergrid on SiSi? My bad, I'm used to writing out same blaster racks. It was actually 4x Ion and 4x Electron. ------------------------------------ Politically Correct since 2007. No really.
Irish Whiskey Caldari Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2008.02.07 15:15:00 - [58] 8x Modal mega electron particle accelerators 2x heavy electrochem injectors 1x warp disruptor ii 2x webifiers (drone control) or 1x web and 1x multispec o' doom 2x eanm ii 1x dc ii 3x large armor rep ii 1x nanobot accelerator 2x aux nano pump 5x Valkyrie ii My skills fit, 19606/19687 PG. Only 500 DPS, but nothing breaks the tank. Most of the time I dont even have to turn on the third rep, much less pulsing the second one. A lot of times I will let my armor go down to 1/3rd before I kick on the second and third reps, hoping my opponent would have turned on overheating to try and finish me off. Dual web and valks chew up any drone sent after you. Multispec o doom has hit twice or even three times in a fight, but dont count on it.

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