Use the bowhead.

Use the bowhead.

Raphael, you leave an impression that I have a problem with gankability of my ships. I don't. I have a problem with having to metagame in order to move an assembled ship.

Bowhead has is disavantages, like small cargo bay. Sometimes I need to transfer some normal cargo in addition to my ships, and a freighter or DST is more suitable. But then I have to go through the pointless process of giving my ship(s) to my alt, creating a courier contract, completing it and giving the ships back to my main. I don't see how the whole process would become more "safe" if it could be completed without those steps, only less tedious.

I don't see the point of assembled ships not being able to be put inside (ordinary) cargo bays when this obstacle can be removed by contracting your ship to your alt. Furthermore, having to place a ship inside a courier package is a pointless, annoying and time-consuming step that adds nothing of value to the gameplay. Therefore I think that ships should be able to be placed inside cargo bays, assuming same rules are followed as when placing them inside ship maintenance bays or courier contracts.

Metagaming

By that definition, using a courier package to bypass the restriction that prevents assembled ships from being placed inside cargo bays is metagaming. I fail to see the point of restrictions if they can be bypassed. Similarly, you can bypass the restriction of being unable to see market orders from another region by visiting Eve-Central, so I see no reason why market oders from entire New Eden couldn't be presented to us ingame (although that would likely require much more dev work than letting us put assembled ships in standard cargo bays). Those would be quality of life improvements, and the list could go on.

Well, it seems to me you just want things to be dumbed down so not as much work is required to complete your desired tasks.

Would you like autopilot to zero and for you tank modules to turn themselves on when you get targeted? Or maybe we should get rid of jump clone fatigue (we already did away with standing requirements)? Maybe if you buy something in your region that is cheaper in another region you can get a price match?

Seriously, there is a tool for the job you want. Use the tool don't be one.

Should we continue?

You can start by explaining to the class why the options that already exist to do exactly what you want aren't good enough.

Use a bowhead.

Hell, if you're moving small ****, use a DST.

Or eat the rig cost. They're cheap anyway.

Obviously you never use stuff like ingame autopilot route since that dumbs down the game. Instead you pick random system to jump into in hopes you will eventually reach your destination since that is the only proper hardcore way to move around. You also never use multibuy since that's another dumbing down of the game, as it removes all fun from fitting your ships. You even delete your boot.ini from time to time since it brings you back the memories of when EVE was MMO that only tough elitist boys played!

See, I can play the strawman game too. Should we continue?

They are good, I'm not disputing that. I'm debating the logic of the game not letting me put an assembled ship inside a cargo bay when I can avoid this obstacle by placing them inside a courier package.

...when I can avoid this obstacle by placing them inside a courier package.

They are good, I'm not disputing that. I'm debating the logic of the game not letting me put an assembled ship inside a cargo bay when I can avoid this obstacle by placing them inside a courier package.

So if you couldn't place the assembled ship inside a cargo bay inside a courier package you would be happy ?

Be careful what you wish for

If the game explicity tells me I'm not allowed to do something, and yet I found I way to do it, that's called an exploit. Yet CCP tolerates this exploit for some reason. If CCP doesn't consider it to be an exploit, then they shoudn't restrict us from doing that without having to create a courier contract. If it is - that's okay too. All I'm asking from CCP is to be consistent, instead of creating restrictions that can be bypassed in a way that doesn't makes anyone's game experience better.

Raphael, you leave an impression that I have a problem with gankability of my ships. I don't. I have a problem with having to metagame in order to move an assembled ship.

I second what the OP is going on about. If the game developers did not explicitly intend for something to be a certain way, it is by definition an exploit and should be removed.

If it isn't then it calls into question the competency and fairness of the developers. Either you do not allow any exploits, or you have to allow all of them.

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