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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2016.08.03 15:55:47 -
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Can we please get it so that reducing the price on an existing market order requires more than a .01 isk change? Its toally stupid because you get the same benefit as a .01 change to appear as cheapest by sorting as you do by 1000 isk.
Make people actually undercut not just play a childish micromanagement game for no reason.
Make it a percentage like idk 5% of the original value or something.
Make my time managing orders worthwhile. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2016.08.03 16:06:14 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:for no reason. There is a reason economics man. Please take a class or two on the subject before you continue to whine about things.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.08.03 16:12:00 -
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Quote:Can we please get it so that reducing the price on an existing market order requires more than a .01 isk change? Under what circumstances would somebody modify their own order by only 0.01 ISK? If they're already the cheapest, no need to modify. If they're not the cheapest, a 0.01 ISK change won't make them the cheapest. |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
101
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Posted - 2016.08.03 16:24:56 -
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Eli Stan wrote:Quote:Can we please get it so that reducing the price on an existing market order requires more than a .01 isk change? Under what circumstances would somebody modify their own order by only 0.01 ISK? If they're already the cheapest, no need to modify. If they're not the cheapest, a 0.01 ISK change won't make them the cheapest. undercutting by .01 to be cheapest is a load of crap. |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
101
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Posted - 2016.08.03 16:25:42 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:for no reason. There is a reason economics man. Please take a class or two on the subject before you continue to whine about things. How about you read what I said. |
KaarBaak
Squirrel Team
390
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Posted - 2016.08.03 16:42:05 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote: Make my time managing orders worthwhile.
Wait...have I been playing "Brigadine Ferathine Online" this whole time I thought I was playing "EvE Online?"
I have NOT been playing as if the entire game revolves around one animated virtual representation of a game player.
How have I made it this far??
KB
Dum Spiro Spero
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Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
382
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Posted - 2016.08.03 16:45:43 -
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Hello William?
Why do people post the same topic 20 times after it gets locked? It is just going to get locked *again*... |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
101
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Posted - 2016.08.03 17:02:10 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Hello William?Why do people post the same topic 20 times after it gets locked? It is just going to get locked *again*... Oh right...just forum trolls... Move along. How on earth is this trolling? Secondly, I haven't ever seen that thread before.
This is a legitimate issue that affects the economy. Nowhere am I trying to create an 'emotional' response. I am trying to point out the logical issue.
lets say they 1 isk =1 penny. You don't see Walmart undercutting people by one-hundredth(.01) of a penny do you? Not to mention one hundredth of a penny doesn't exist. Does any currency on earth work like that?
Requiring undercutting to be more than one-hundredth of a minimum unit helps the economy. Its not nonsense. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2016.08.03 17:06:12 -
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Eli Stan wrote:Quote:Can we please get it so that reducing the price on an existing market order requires more than a .01 isk change? Under what circumstances would somebody modify their own order by only 0.01 ISK? If they're already the cheapest, no need to modify. If they're not the cheapest, a 0.01 ISK change won't make them the cheapest.
He is right.
You're not asking CCP to prevent each of us from changing our own orders by 0.01 ISK, you're asking CCP to prevent each of us from underbidding YOU by 0.01 ISK.
You fail to understand the market. You're not competing with bots who spam 0.01 isk, you're competing with 30,000 veterans, and we're all outbidding each other, and you. |
Memphis Baas
1874
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Posted - 2016.08.03 17:10:44 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:You don't see Walmart undercutting people by one-hundredth(.01)
Walmart undercuts Target, Best-Buy, and any and all smaller mom-and-pop shops by 0.01 Dollars (1 cent) ALL the TIME. They undercut by the smallest possible amount of currency that exists. Everybody in RL does this.
You are not forced to go shop at Walmart any more than you are forced to shop at Jita. As a matter of fact, the citadels they've put up around Jita are there specifically for that, to avoid the Walmart price. And taxes.
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.08.03 17:33:36 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote: lets say they 1 isk =1 penny. You don't see Walmart undercutting people by one-hundredth(.01) of a penny do you? Not to mention one hundredth of a penny doesn't exist. Does any currency on earth work like that?
I have two supermarkets near me. Tesco sell diesel at 108.99p per litre and Asda sells at 108.98p per litre. Granted I don't get my diesel at either because supermarket fuel fucks your filters but just saying. |
Paranoid Loyd
9345
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Posted - 2016.08.03 17:41:50 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:for no reason. There is a reason economics man. Please take a class or two on the subject before you continue to whine about things. How about you read what I said. I did, how about you take a few classes like I said so we can avoid these idiotic self serving posts.
Fix the Prospect! New Server Hardware!
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics CODE.
504
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Posted - 2016.08.03 17:51:35 -
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Whatever's ravaging this place must be contagious. ISDs should lock down the forums and bring in the hazmat team. |
Bobb Bobbington
Bros Before Holes The Devils' Rejects
336
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Posted - 2016.08.03 18:08:06 -
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:Whatever's ravaging this place must be contagious. ISDs should lock down the forums and bring in the hazmat team.
Somewhere, in a CDC control room... *alarms wailing in the background*
"Sir! Another outbreak of stupidity is spreading! It somehow escaped our previous containment attempt!"
"I want two teams on site now!
"Specialists report a minimal likelyhood that standard containment procedures will remain effective. It's just spread too far! There's only one way to ensure it doesn't make it to the general populace."
"Predicted damage?"
"The Eve Online forums"
"... Prep the missiles"
This is a signature.
It has a 25m signature.
No it's not a cosmic signature.
Probably.
Btw my corp's recruiting.
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
557
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Posted - 2016.08.03 18:10:18 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Requiring undercutting to be more than one-hundredth of a minimum unit helps the economy. Why would you say such a claim? Support your statement.
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Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
385
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Posted - 2016.08.03 18:15:50 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:lets say they 1 isk =1 penny. You don't see Walmart undercutting people by one-hundredth(.01) of a penny do you? Not to mention one hundredth of a penny doesn't exist. Does any currency on earth work like that?
Requiring undercutting to be more than one-hundredth of a minimum unit helps the economy. Its not nonsense. I tell you what...
Lets *NOT* say 1 isk = 1 penny.
Lets say 1 isk = 100 million billion Dollars (I'm guessing you are American by your use of penny - if not use your own large-money units please).
Now when they undercut you by 0.01 isk they are actually undercutting you by 1 million billion Dollars.
Problem solved. |
Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2016.08.03 18:31:47 -
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I demand recompensation for clicking this thread and replying in it. Send me 0.1 ISK.
x 1 000 000 times
Try to make your time worthwile this time.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story. =ƒτς
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him.
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Bishop Bob
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
20
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Posted - 2016.08.03 19:08:02 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Eli Stan wrote:Quote:Can we please get it so that reducing the price on an existing market order requires more than a .01 isk change? Under what circumstances would somebody modify their own order by only 0.01 ISK? If they're already the cheapest, no need to modify. If they're not the cheapest, a 0.01 ISK change won't make them the cheapest. undercutting by .01 to be cheapest is a load of crap.
Undercutting by the minimum amount possible is market economics.
Posting uneducated comments on forums is a load of crap, though.
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Serene Repose
2584
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Posted - 2016.08.03 19:16:11 -
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MARKET BOTS MARKET BOTS MARKET BOTS MARKET BOTS MARKET BOTS
Don't let 'em tell you any differ'nt.
We must accommodate the idiocracy.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2016.08.03 19:25:29 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote: You don't see Walmart undercutting people by one-hundredth(.01) of a penny do you? Yes, every day (in Asda, a Walmart company); all of the large chains do it.
Quote:Not to mention one hundredth of a penny doesn't exist. Tell that to the banks, they're sat on millions of fractions of a penny. Fractions of a penny crops up in film too, in Superman 3 Richard Prior hacks an accounts system to put all of the fractions of a cent into his wage cheque; Office Space features somebody doing exactly the same.
Quote:Does any currency on earth work like that? Does any currency not work like that?
Quote:Requiring undercutting to be more than one-hundredth of a minimum unit helps the economy. Its not nonsense. You're wrong, it is nonsense.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1162
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Posted - 2016.08.03 19:27:00 -
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what would stop me from splitting my order into 2 batches? I price one under the lowest at .01. And hour later, I under cut the lowest with the 2nd stack by .01 and cancel the first stack or wait on it till it comes back around. The point is, there are simple ways around your suggested improvement. You either need to develop it further otherwise implementing such an idea would waste resources from CCP that can be circumvented with a simple work around. |
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale Black Marker
340
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Posted - 2016.08.03 19:56:49 -
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OP, can I have your SP?
When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
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Gadget Helmsdottir
Gadget's Workshop
307
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Posted - 2016.08.03 19:57:09 -
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Sweetie...
The reason that see bids under yours that are only .01 ISK difference is because that is the minimum possible. If ISK were measured out to .000000001 then that's the difference you would see.
In the same vein, if CCP decided that the minimum amount for any transaction (as in that's the smallest number you can put in the box) would be 500 ISK, then the next order under yours would be 500 ISK less.
Stay more vigilant on your orders...
--Gadget
Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
101
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Posted - 2016.08.03 21:56:23 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:You don't see Walmart undercutting people by one-hundredth(.01) Walmart undercuts Target, Best-Buy, and any and all smaller mom-and-pop shops by 0.01 Dollars (1 cent) ALL the TIME. They undercut by the smallest possible amount of currency that exists. Everybody in RL does this. You are not forced to go shop at Walmart any more than you are forced to shop at Jita. As a matter of fact, the citadels they've put up around Jita are there specifically for that, to avoid the Walmart price. And taxes. But do they undercut by .01 of a cent? |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
101
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Posted - 2016.08.03 21:57:44 -
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Bishop Bob wrote:Brigadine Ferathine wrote:Eli Stan wrote:Quote:Can we please get it so that reducing the price on an existing market order requires more than a .01 isk change? Under what circumstances would somebody modify their own order by only 0.01 ISK? If they're already the cheapest, no need to modify. If they're not the cheapest, a 0.01 ISK change won't make them the cheapest. undercutting by .01 to be cheapest is a load of crap. Undercutting by the minimum amount possible is market economics. Posting uneducated comments on forums is a load of crap, though. I am talking about raising the minimum. |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
101
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Posted - 2016.08.03 21:59:10 -
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Serene Repose wrote:MARKET BOTS MARKET BOTS MARKET BOTS MARKET BOTS MARKET BOTS
Don't let 'em tell you any differ'nt. I know thank you. |
Dirty Forum Alt
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
389
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Posted - 2016.08.03 22:03:38 -
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Brigadine Ferathine wrote:But do they undercut by .01 of a cent? Do they put prices on things in cents? Or do they have a "dollar" amount, and then a "decimal point", and then the number of "cents"?
When you see $0.01 - do you think that is 0.01 "Dollars", or 0.01 "Cents"?
You seem to have issues with even the most basic rudiments of currency....so I think you should just give up on understanding this stuff before your brain overheats.
Also see my previous post - I already solved your "problem". |
Memphis Baas
1876
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Posted - 2016.08.03 22:06:26 -
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Why are you equating 1 ISK with 1 cent?
1 ISK is clearly equivalent to 1 of any currency, from dollar to euro to chickens. "Cent" by very definition of the word means 0.01 of whatever the currency is. Walmart's currency is the dollar, not the cent, and so they undercut by 0.01 of 1 dollar.
And you're talking about changing the minimum. We think that's stupid, and thus no change is required to the game.
So if this thread is going to turn into a vote thread with no actual discussion or valid logical arguments, then you say "yes" the rest of us say "no", and CCP can go about continuing with the game as it is, and ignore you. |
Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
101
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Posted - 2016.08.03 22:07:42 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Why are you equating 1 ISK with 1 cent?
1 ISK is clearly equivalent to 1 of any currency, from dollar to euro to chickens. "Cent" by very definition of the word means 0.01 of whatever the currency is. Walmart's currency is the dollar, not the cent, and so they undercut by 0.01 of 1 dollar.
And you're talking about changing the minimum. We think that's stupid, and thus no change is required to the game.
So if this thread is going to turn into a vote thread with no actual discussion or valid logical arguments, then you say "yes" the rest of us say "no", and CCP can go about continuing with the game as it is, and ignore you. because it is the smallest unit of a currency. |
Memphis Baas
1876
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Posted - 2016.08.03 22:10:04 -
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0.01 isk = smallest possible increment in the ISK currency. 1 cent = smallest possible coin in the dollar currency.
So 0.01 isk can be equated to 1 cent, and 1 ISK can be equated to 1 dollar. |
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