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Shigsy
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.11 21:55:00 -
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Yada yada, I know im gonna get flamed, but here it goes anyway.
As you may know im in Privateers, (zomg you gank haulers and dont deserve loot), but loot stealing is a serious problem. We got into two nice mediumg sized engagements today, gf, and after each fight, we saw numerious wrecks being pillaged by noobs.
Worst of all, they don't even get flagged to us. Which basically means, fighting in empire literally sucks 
There needs to be a solution for this soon. It's VERY annoying and im sure alot of people will agree. 
Join "Turby" channel ingame and bring pie - Karass Sayfo |
Baleorg
Gallente
Guys of Sarcasm
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Posted - 2007.03.11 21:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Shigsy
There needs to be a solution for this soon.
there is... fit 1 salvager :-P
NEXT
BTW: A GOOD Cache-Cleaner |
Militis Kolosok
Caldari
Praetorian Black Guard
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:07:00 -
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Edited by: Militis Kolosok on 11/03/2007 22:03:52
Originally by: Baleorg
Originally by: Shigsy
There needs to be a solution for this soon.
there is... fit 1 salvager :-P
NEXT
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0703/crowfittings.jpg
:D (Yeah, it goes slow, kill me... I am redoing fittings once I get standard launcher IIs next week)
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Col'th
Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:10:00 -
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There is a simple solution. Dont fight in empire.
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evilwarrior
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: evilwarrior on 11/03/2007 22:08:47
all priverters are noobs anyway u deserve wat u get ,u should reap wat u sow so to speak.
get out of empire if u dont like it and fight someone worth fighting instead of trying to think ur something ur not!!!!shut whinging
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Jackal79
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: evilwarrior
Edited by: evilwarrior on 11/03/2007 22:08:47
u deserve wat u get ,u should reap wat u sow quote]
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DiuxDium
Loot
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: evilwarrior
Edited by: evilwarrior on 11/03/2007 22:08:47
all priverters are noobs anyway u deserve wat u get ,u should reap wat u sow so to speak.
get out of empire if u dont like it and fight someone worth fighting instead of trying to think ur something ur not!!!!shut whinging
Ohh man, this post has made me re-evaluate my life, I think i'm going to go join a 0.0 alliance so I can be another 'bee' in the ol' blob. Who needs fights? When I can listen to an idiot on TS scream at me about how our 450 man gang must go an defeat the enemies 500 man gang. Must be careful though! Because at any moment you can be DD'd in a moment of lag, with absolutly no way to defend your self!
It's like fun, without the fun.
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Shigsy
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: Baleorg
Originally by: Shigsy
There needs to be a solution for this soon.
there is... fit 1 salvager :-P
NEXT
By pillaging I meant stealing the loot. Not salvaging the wrecks
Join "Turby" channel ingame and bring pie - Karass Sayfo |
Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: evilwarrior
Edited by: evilwarrior on 11/03/2007 22:08:47
all priverters are noobs anyway u deserve wat u get ,u should reap wat u sow so to speak.
get out of empire if u dont like it and fight someone worth fighting instead of trying to think ur something ur not!!!!shut whinging
lol. Isn't there an English-only rule about posting on these forums?
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Originally by: Foopadoo
Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
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AvatarADV
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:31:00 -
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You wanna pick fights with people along a public highway, don't complain when someone else flies up and jacks their loot. ;p
I've actually made quite a few isk in this manner. Named MWDs, T2 drones, you name it. Loot, dock, wait 15 minutes while fiendishly cackling. Was actually Privateer loot a time or two, if I recall correctly.
Wait, wait, is someone from Privateers actually complaining about use of a valid game mechanic in an unfavorable fashion? Space calling the kettle black...
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Celeste Coeval
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Shigsy
Yada yada, I know im gonna get flamed, but here it goes anyway.
As you may know im in Privateers, (zomg you gank haulers and dont deserve loot), but loot stealing is a serious problem. We got into two nice mediumg sized engagements today, gf, and after each fight, we saw numerious wrecks being pillaged by noobs.
Worst of all, they don't even get flagged to us. Which basically means, fighting in empire literally sucks
There needs to be a solution for this soon. It's VERY annoying and im sure alot of people will agree.
I say pillage away. As the wreck isn't yours anyway it's the property of the person you killed.
"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor."
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Arokan Manturi
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: evilwarrior
Edited by: evilwarrior on 11/03/2007 22:08:47
all priverters are noobs anyway u deserve wat u get ,u should reap wat u sow so to speak.
get out of empire if u dont like it and fight someone worth fighting instead of trying to think ur something ur not!!!!shut whinging
I feel sorry for this guy... The force is weak with this one
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Brisi
Veto.
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:41:00 -
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I thought that people stealing loot was supposed to be flagged to the killer. When has this changed, or is my memory just talking jibberish to me again?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:42:00 -
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Kill rights are screwy in empire anyway.
Anyone considered to be invovled in combat in empire should be open to shoostings by anyone else involved in that combat.
Kill rights should propogate across the various gangs invovled.
Stealing from a wreck should mark you as a combatant, so anyone else involved in the shoostings can shoost you.
Basically, anyone who intentionally interacts with the combat in any way should have 0.0 mode switched on WRT/the other involved people.
That would be Win.
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If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |
Celeste Coeval
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:45:00 -
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Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 11/03/2007 22:41:37
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Kill rights are screwy in empire anyway.
Anyone considered to be invovled in combat in empire should be open to shoostings by anyone else involved in that combat.
Kill rights should propogate across the various gangs invovled.
Stealing from a wreck should mark you as a combatant, so anyone else involved in the shoostings can shoost you.
Basically, anyone who intentionally interacts with the combat in any way should have 0.0 mode switched on WRT/the other involved people.
That would be Win.
A wreck is post combat. But i do agree with making any wrecks the property of the person who laid the last blow and the poor sod that bought it.
btw crumplecorn I <3 your posts
"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor."
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Marlenus
Ironfleet Towing And Salvage
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:45:00 -
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"Pillaging" the loot from the wreck is indeed a form of salvage in its ancient and generic sense. Salvagers traditionally haven't worried too much about who might claim ownership of a thing; if they find something adrift, they take it home.
Plus, in this game, it's a LOT of fun.
Having been an aggressive salvager since the days when missioners left canstellations at all the stargates, I don't see this as a problem of any kind.
Pillage on!
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Celeste Coeval
Edited by: Celeste Coeval on 11/03/2007 22:41:37
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Kill rights are screwy in empire anyway.
Anyone considered to be invovled in combat in empire should be open to shoostings by anyone else involved in that combat.
Kill rights should propogate across the various gangs invovled.
Stealing from a wreck should mark you as a combatant, so anyone else involved in the shoostings can shoost you.
Basically, anyone who intentionally interacts with the combat in any way should have 0.0 mode switched on WRT/the other involved people.
That would be Win.
A wreck is post combat. But i do agree with making any wrecks the property of the person who laid the last blow and the poor sod that bought it.
A wreck isn't post combat if you steal from it while the blasterthron that *made* it is still sitting next to it  
But seriously, something like, you steal from the wreck and the owner and the guy who kill the owner and their respective gangs can shoot you, and if they do so you and your entire gang can shoot them and the appropriate gang.
Kill rights probably shouldn't go past the system however, otherwise you'll be able to hide a gang out of sight and then get them to agro an Ibis and then jump in and kill them.
Originally by: Celeste Coeval
btw crumplecorn I <3 your posts
<3
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If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |
Shigsy
Caldari
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.11 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Brisi
I thought that people stealing loot was supposed to be flagged to the killer. When has this changed, or is my memory just talking jibberish to me again?
With the new wreck system, the person who dies owns the wreck. So basically the person who steals the loot, the pod can shoot them for 15 minutes which is very useful 
Join "Turby" channel ingame and bring pie - Karass Sayfo |
mephistophelian
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:12:00 -
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i went through i little of my time in game looting these wrecks in a destroyer with salvagers.
but unfortunately privateers got wise to this and would target and shoot the wrecks so noone got it. |
Andriela
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shigsy
There needs to be a solution for this soon. It's VERY annoying and im sure alot of people will agree.
I have only one word for you, but I will get warned if I will use it, coward privater.
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Le Skunk
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:22:00 -
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The 'fair' option would be for both the alliance whos kills the ship, and the alliance whos ship it was to be able to take from the can without being flagged.
SKUNK
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Lowanaera
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:23:00 -
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Considering how any time someone goes pop in Amarr, 2 seconds later there are multiple Privateers diving on the wrecks to empty them, I find this whine hilarious.
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Orion Eridanus
Death's Shadow
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:25:00 -
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I like Crumplecorns solution where it affect all gangs involved including the looters gang, limits the ability of the others to ambush you with a superior force and grief, and can lead to some nice fights
WANTED: Someone to go to Jita with me. This is not a joke. Eve mail me PO BOX *snip* Ashela, Genesis. You'll get paid after we get back. Must bring own ship. Safety not guaranteed. I have only done t |
heheheh
Singularity.
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:26:00 -
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while i fully support the privateers,
Crying because someone beats you to the loot in empire is a tad ironic, if you dont want people scooping your loot then dont fight where its busy, simple as.
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente
Anqara Expeditions
The OSS
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:36:00 -
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So...People are trying to take from you what you have rightfully stolen.
Maybe you should arrange a mental contest (you know, goblets, poison, that sort of thing) to conclude such matters.
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Dez Affinity
Caldari
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:41:00 -
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If someone shoots you IRL, they don't get all your assets. Therefore they do not gain any more claim to the wrecks than the guy sat next to you.
It's fair game, you shoot outside a densely populated station, you should expect this.
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Shigsy
Yada yada, I know im gonna get flamed, but here it goes anyway.
As you may know im in Privateers, (zomg you gank haulers and dont deserve loot), but loot stealing is a serious problem. We got into two nice mediumg sized engagements today, gf, and after each fight, we saw numerious wrecks being pillaged by noobs.
Worst of all, they don't even get flagged to us. Which basically means, fighting in empire literally sucks
There needs to be a solution for this soon. It's VERY annoying and im sure alot of people will agree.
So basically...you're whining about loot being stolen...like when miners whined about ore being stolen...but...you think you deserve the loot in the ship...um...
/me looks around for a potential threat
Boo hoo?
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Celeste Coeval
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Sphynx Stormlord
So...People are trying to take from you what you have rightfully stolen.
Maybe you should arrange a mental contest (you know, goblets, poison, that sort of thing) to conclude such matters.
"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor."
-Albert Einstein |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.11 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dez Affinity
If someone shoots you IRL, they don't get all your assets.
This man speaks the truth.
Or something.
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If you go into your options menu, there's a difficulty slider. Put that all the way over to the easiest setting and you'll be fine. |
Kumu Honua
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Posted - 2007.03.12 00:40:00 -
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I loot wrecks.
Doesn't matter who owns it. I'll loot it. Gotta clear the space lanes of debris.
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