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Zoltaris
COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.13 12:29:00 -
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Edited by: Zoltaris on 13/03/2007 12:26:01
War Dec costs should be exponential, 1st war costing 50m / week, 2nd war costing 100m / week, 3rd war costing 200m / week, etc...
That would prevent abuses from the war dec system -----
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2007.03.13 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Blue Stratos So u think just because you want empire to be a *safe haven* for your alliance *mission running alts* that the average corp including mine should pay massive fee's to war dec arragont alliances in eve so you *are happy*
I don't think so... It's no ISK sink, they invented the empire war dec for a reason, and if these so called *0.0 alliances* should be free and safe in empire when **** hits the fan?
Explain to me the logic behind that?
first of all, i get the idea that empire was SUPPOSED to be a safe haven (of sorts).. otherwise, why even put concord there? in my opinion, the war dec was a means for corps to settle domestic disputes between corps running into issues with each other.
personally, i think the system is fine.. i think privateers are just abusing this system.
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Kruugore
Minmatar Vigilant Justice
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Posted - 2007.03.13 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: mamolian Myself and a few of the corpies were discussing Privateers war bill costs.. they must be massive at the moment?
Heard rumors they are going for a goal of 100 war decs very soon? Anyone from privateers care to comment on just exactly how much its costing a week ?
Also considering this is a massive ISK sink for CCP, maybe Privateers are actually helping the economy (curbing inflation) in a way the ISK sink that POS was never able to achieve? 
It's actually not an isk sink at all.
It causes inflation due to insurance.
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gazarsgo
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.03.13 15:23:00 -
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this belongs in market discussion imo.
1billion isk is about 50 hours of "honest work" -- lvl4s, 0.0 ratting, high-end mining. Easily doable in a month for a regular player, easily doable in 2-3 months by a casual.
5bil/week doesn't make a dent in the eve economy though. the best isk sinks in the game currently are capital ship bpos, and even those dont do much since only the biggest alliances need 4 of them...
check out the mineral market sometime...it moves several billions worth per DAY...
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Rylet VanDorn
Caldari Pastafarians Novus Ordos Seclorum
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Posted - 2007.03.13 19:25:00 -
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Seriously though, does anyone else think the whole privateer alliance is going to log in one day, realize that all their wars are expiring, and then see that the billions of isk they sent to keep the wars going is gone?
It reeks of a scam, Innominate style.
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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 05:43:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 15/03/2007 05:39:57
Originally by: Rylet VanDorn Seriously though, does anyone else think the whole privateer alliance is going to log in one day, realize that all their wars are expiring, and then see that the billions of isk they sent to keep the wars going is gone?
It reeks of a scam, Innominate style.
Well assuming our member corps logged in and saw some evil ceo had booted us all out, they would have all lost 50-100million per corp (avg war dec fee)- annoying, yes - but a drop in the ocean for them.
This would assume of course they all pay for their wars on the same day of the week - which they dont. As soon as Mondays wars were not paid for, the corps who pay tues -sunday wouldnt pay.
So whilst a hesit could take place it would be a pretty damn rubbish one.
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JMcClane
Gallente Righteous Choirboys Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.15 11:28:00 -
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I'll put it shortly, someone already partially covered this.
War Dec -> 50 million per week per corp.
Fitting for good Tech II Ship / Mission running ship-> 50-100 million
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The Comatorium
Unscoped Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 17:46:00 -
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LOL!
always loved McClane's simple mind
A + B = C
War decs arent a problem for Privateers... it's an exploitable ressource and i'm sure there will be a way to counter any nerf made for them and they will still make profit out of war decs.
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Nyana
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Posted - 2007.04.23 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: The Comatorium LOL!
always loved McClane's simple mind
A + B = C
War decs arent a problem for Privateers... it's an exploitable ressource and i'm sure there will be a way to counter any nerf made for them and they will still make profit out of war decs.
Necro!! 
Anyway, for the current price they're paying I believe they can afford 10-11 wars with the new system.
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Le Skunk
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.23 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Le Skunk on 23/04/2007 18:03:19 Yeah Necro allert!
This is so old it was back when JMcalne was the 'good' mclane. Not the 'evil' mclane 
but thanks for the good wishes from the necro :)
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Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.23 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Major Stuart
Originally by: mamolian
Also considering this is a massive ISK sink for CCP, maybe Privateers are actually helping the economy (curbing inflation) in a way the ISK sink that POS was never able to achieve? 
Like i heard a privateer say in jita were helping the economy by keeping the need for ships and equipment up 
TO a certain extent, they're absolutely right.
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Suboran
Gallente Sphinx Inc Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.04.23 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Janu Hull
Originally by: Major Stuart
Originally by: mamolian
Also considering this is a massive ISK sink for CCP, maybe Privateers are actually helping the economy (curbing inflation) in a way the ISK sink that POS was never able to achieve? 
Like i heard a privateer say in jita were helping the economy by keeping the need for ships and equipment up 
TO a certain extent, they're absolutely right.
at the same time they were keeping the jita population down.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.23 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Zoltaris Edited by: Zoltaris on 13/03/2007 12:26:01
War Dec costs should be exponential, 1st war costing 50m / week, 2nd war costing 100m / week, 3rd war costing 200m / week, etc...
That would prevent abuses from the war dec system
jsut before you renew you cancel the war the redec it. You pay 50mill per week again.
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Mandrain
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.31 12:36:00 -
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Edited by: Mandrain on 31/10/2007 12:36:46 new system hurts ^) i'm vote for old system:)
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.31 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mandrain Edited by: Mandrain on 31/10/2007 12:36:46 new system hurts ^) i'm vote for old system:)
thanks for the update on this thread
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Corwain
Gallente Down In Flames
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:12:00 -
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2nd in a necro --
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Audri Fisher This is why war dec cost need to go up. It is a great isk sink.
4 million per week is pocket change. I wouldn't even bend over to pick up 4 million ISK if I saw it laying on the ground. They really should up the corp to corp war dec cost.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rhaegor Stormborn
Originally by: Audri Fisher This is why war dec cost need to go up. It is a great isk sink.
4 million per week is pocket change. I wouldn't even bend over to pick up 4 million ISK if I saw it laying on the ground. They really should up the corp to corp war dec cost.
is that seriously all it is?
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Big Zulu
Minmatar Iron Eagles
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:45:00 -
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Necroooo! _________
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Janjan Jansen
Amarr Primal Element Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Big Zulu Necroooo!
/signed QFT
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Metalstein
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.10.31 13:58:00 -
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Enzo Florinteen
Gallente The 13th Armored Headhunters
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Posted - 2007.10.31 15:47:00 -
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Oh I get it now.. it has something to do with halloween and the dead right right??!?!! 
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Frogsley
Puddings Corporation
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Posted - 2007.10.31 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: Frogsley on 31/10/2007 15:53:01
Mamolian was single-handedly responsible for the downfall of the Privateers. True Story.
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Wesley Baird
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.10.31 15:53:00 -
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Way too many necros today....where are the admins!?!?!
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Lobo13
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.10.31 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Baird Way too many necros today....where are the admins!?!?!
It's Halloween silly!!11!!11
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