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Bienurdau Hywoaf
Minmatar Matari Holo News Network
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:20:00 -
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NIce pictures of the battle :)
I had gone up to Geminate to check out the story there, I guess this explains why I didn't find much....
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Seth Rock
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:21:00 -
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Good job guys keep it up
_________________________________________ Sig removed again as being inappropriate- Tirg Sig removed as it is inappropriate. -Conuion Meow ([email protected])
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Zhaine Cool stuff.
It must be said that no one, not BoB or anyone else, pulls off dread killing like the Russians.
Seige mode + logonski is a powerful combo!
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Kreul Intentions
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:22:00 -
[64]
Gentle reminder, continue to stay on topic, post with your mains and no trolling.
Thank you.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Wylker Before the "coalition" breaks their collectve arm patting themselves on the back. I look at the killmails and see a bunch of AAA cap ships. I thought AAA wern't part of the coalition? Or is this once again people with no teeth (IAC, KOS, etc) taking credit for the work of other alliances? KOS I hope you can defend your space when RA and -A- arnt there to do it for you. Or are you just their pets/slaves/random derogatory term you use to describe bob allys.
Er, good luck with your train and such. Let us know how it goes with the other 10 towers that are reinforced out there.
Don't confuse people being happy with people taking credit lest you find yourself having to chastise Xelas, FIX, RISE, MWD, executive outcomes, MC etc everytime they post in a thread about a BoB win in which they were either completely uninvolved or very minimally involved.
Well, heres the problem. The coalition keeps listing all these things that make BoB and allys bad people. Ie: bob is haxxor, bob is expansionist, bob abuses pets, bob pets can't defend themselves etc.
The bottom line is that the coalition has done EVERY SINGLE THING they accuse bob of doing, and in many cases have done more of it or have done it to a greater degree. RA has already completely betrayed SMASH (LV & -V- anyone?). RA is a known exploiter of complexes, you are allied with goons (i think thats a dead horse but can write 2 pages on it if you want), -A- is now defending coaltion space and they practically invented logoffski.
I do not mind anyone being congratulatory. What i mind is all the hypocricy and BS that spews out of peoples mouths non-stop when they simply choose to be ignorant of facts that are right in front of thier faces because the facts are inconvenient to their forum e-peen point. I don't think theres any illusion as to who I support in this conflict, but god at least I dont get on the forums and publicly expose my willing ignorance of reality.
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Shin Gor
Absolute Guardians
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:25:00 -
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Was it the first "capitals only" fight in EVE?
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Gamesguy
Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 12/03/2007 17:21:27 Edited by: Xeliya on 12/03/2007 17:19:39
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 12/03/2007 16:38:39 I can say nice attack, well thought out trap. And nice to see RA/AAA have the balls to jump their dreads in on people unlike the Northerners This is why BoB went after RA as they will put up a fight and one tough fight.
And please for the love of God stop posting facts if you weren't there and you don't have the details. I can tell you it was 9 Dreads lost for BoB and 1 AAA and 1 RA dread lost also BoB dreads were not officer fit but had Core hardeners cause well thats what drops in their 10/10 plexs and I wasn't even there . . .
So let me get this straight. BoB gets credit for "going after good fights" and losing 9 dreads but the north doesn't get credit for attacking BoB when they lose dreads? Extract your head from their collective ass.
The dreads were officer fitted. At least one had an officer cap recharger and everyone I have looked at had deadspace hardeners (although one strangely had deadspace passives ...). Every EVOL dread even had boosters in it.
Last time I checked there were no officer modded capital guns, siege modules, capital armor reps or drones so I am not exactly sure what an officer modded dread would have on it other than armor hardeners and *maybe* an officer sensor booster and cap mods.
Did you not read what I sad below or you need glasses? The odd very odd mod was officer but that does not mean their fleet was officer fit as some said and did I not say most of them were Core fitted which is dead space . . . And no the North doesn't get cred because you guys only attack when BoB isn't home and when BoB shows up you guys pull your caps back, when you stay and fight then you get cred.
There is this module called siege module, it activates something called siege mode, and once activated your dreads can no longer move.
You might want to look it up.
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DiuxDium
Loot Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:29:00 -
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I'm fairly certain everyone in this thread broke their clavicle.
It's ok, I'm a doctor. Line up and I can help. 
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 12/03/2007 17:21:27 Edited by: Xeliya on 12/03/2007 17:19:39
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 12/03/2007 16:38:39 I can say nice attack, well thought out trap. And nice to see RA/AAA have the balls to jump their dreads in on people unlike the Northerners This is why BoB went after RA as they will put up a fight and one tough fight.
And please for the love of God stop posting facts if you weren't there and you don't have the details. I can tell you it was 9 Dreads lost for BoB and 1 AAA and 1 RA dread lost also BoB dreads were not officer fit but had Core hardeners cause well thats what drops in their 10/10 plexs and I wasn't even there . . .
So let me get this straight. BoB gets credit for "going after good fights" and losing 9 dreads but the north doesn't get credit for attacking BoB when they lose dreads? Extract your head from their collective ass.
The dreads were officer fitted. At least one had an officer cap recharger and everyone I have looked at had deadspace hardeners (although one strangely had deadspace passives ...). Every EVOL dread even had boosters in it.
Last time I checked there were no officer modded capital guns, siege modules, capital armor reps or drones so I am not exactly sure what an officer modded dread would have on it other than armor hardeners and *maybe* an officer sensor booster and cap mods.
Did you not read what I sad below or you need glasses? The odd very odd mod was officer but that does not mean their fleet was officer fit as some said and did I not say most of them were Core fitted which is dead space . . . And no the North doesn't get cred because you guys only attack when BoB isn't home and when BoB shows up you guys pull your caps back, when you stay and fight then you get cred.
So a uniform fitting of deadspace modules that are collectively worth a great many unfitted dreads is not significant?
You are giving BoB credit for doing exactly what the northern alliances that lost dreads did and for which you refuse to even acknowledge them; they got outnumbered in capital ships and losts a bunch of their own. Your distinction is non-existant. BoB would have pulled out if they had known what was ready to hit them. They lost them attacking someone else's space just like the people you refuse to acknowledge.
In any case, whether or not you choose to be even handed does not concern me. It only concerns me that everyone notivce how obviously non-sensical the sorts of posts that try to differentiatevirtually identical losses and explain away the presence of many billions of isk of modules as if they were simply not there.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:34:00 -
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Baun, just take it for what it is.
9 Dreads killed.
No point debating if the mods make it "close to 30 in value" or what each dread had fitted.
Im quiet sure the same pilots will be in new dreads within a day or less so dunno why u worry about it. BoB lost for the first time a bigger amount of dreads, well done RA but it wont mystically solve all problems or win the war for the coalition. Remember BoB fielded on one occasion ~ 60 capitals. Im confident they wont be in frigs 2morrow.
Give it a rest already.
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Orree
Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya Edited by: Xeliya on 12/03/2007 16:38:39 I can say nice attack, well thought out trap. And nice to see RA/AAA have the balls to jump their dreads in on people unlike the Northerners This is why BoB went after RA as they will put up a fight and one tough fight.
And please for the love of God stop posting facts if you weren't there and you don't have the details. I can tell you it was 9 Dreads lost for BoB and 1 AAA and 1 RA dread lost also BoB dreads were not officer fit but had Core hardeners cause well thats what drops in their 10/10 plexs and I wasn't even there . . .
Tell me, because I've never been in this sort of...errr...err...position...
...is it fun taking potshots at the Northern Alliances while hiding behind BoB's apron, knowing that any ONE of the alliances arrayed against BoB could wipe the floor with you at any time?
I'd feel pretty cheap and lame, if it were me...but then again, it never will be me.
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R0ot
InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:40:00 -
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Thats impressive lads, this has been an eventful weekend anyway. Hopefully not much smack and a battle report would be alot nicer than a thread title saying "BoB lost 9 dreads!!!11one!!eleven" but impressive again as i've said. 
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 12/03/2007 17:41:46
Originally by: Kcel Chim Baun, just take it for what it is.
9 Dreads killed.
No point debating if the mods make it "close to 30 in value" or what each dread had fitted.
I am taking it for what it is. Just like the northern dread losses havent killed the north, these losses won't kill BoB.
What they had fitted does matter, but its not a humongous deal. If you look at my first post, Focht, I brought it up because I was honestly a bit dumbfounded that BoB would fit modules worth 50-100% (or more in some cases) of the ships cost that only make them ~10% more effective and will virtually never save you on ships that cannot move. I could go on for a long time about why I think this is stupid and I am sure some people disagree, but the general wisdom of the fitting was my point (or attempted point), not its value.
They could have all had the absolute best gear on and this result would have been either identical or nearly identical. Furthermore, had they not been jumped in on the POS they were shooting would be just as dead had they fitted t2 gear. That was my point, not that this was the end of BoB because they were using 64% hardeners.
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Give it a rest already.
The people you should be telling to give it a rest, Focht, are the people who post non sensical garbage about how BoB valiantly looked for a good fight by attacking a virtually empty system and then courageously died after getting quite outnumbered and yet how other alliances that did exactly the same thing were cowardly and crap.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:46:00 -
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i agree those ppl should stfu aswell.
As i said its rather simple. BoB went to pwn a Pos and instead got pwned by a surprise attack.
As for the hardeners im also agreeing with you. I dont see a point in fitting this kind of stuff, neither do i see a point in flying faction bs or pimped crows for fleetbattles. Just that some ppl are rich and dont give a damn if they lose "x millions" extra. Their game, their money really.
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Fuglife
STK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:46:00 -
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Never argue with baun. I learnt that the hard way :(
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Alski
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: IHurricane Edited by: IHurricane on 12/03/2007 16:02:29 Here is a SS of the battlefield, Linky
thats very nice but ummm... should all those channels at the bottom of the screeny really be all exposed like that?  -
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Ty'derian
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:50:00 -
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FAST BOB !!! TO THE FORUMALTMOBILE !!!
its realy realy poor that you guys only post with your second accounts. like wilker...
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Xeliya
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Xeliya on 12/03/2007 17:50:59
Originally by: Baun So a uniform fitting of deadspace modules that are collectively worth a great many unfitted dreads is not significant?
You are giving BoB credit for doing exactly what the northern alliances that lost dreads did and for which you refuse to even acknowledge them; they got outnumbered in capital ships and losts a bunch of their own. Your distinction is non-existant. BoB would have pulled out if they had known what was ready to hit them. They lost them attacking someone else's space just like the people you refuse to acknowledge.
In any case, whether or not you choose to be even handed does not concern me. It only concerns me that everyone notivce how obviously non-sensical the sorts of posts that try to differentiatevirtually identical losses and explain away the presence of many billions of isk of modules as if they were simply not there.
Where did I say the dead space mods are worth nothing? Stop trying to twist what I said which was their fleet was not officer fit other then the very odd mod, don't think thats hard to comprehend ya.
And how are they doing what North did, they declared war on an Enemy who was at home and attacking them head on. I doubt they will quit and pull back like some over a few dread losses. Only reason they will pull back is if you guys start to spam POS's again.
Originally by: Gamesguy There is this module called siege module, it activates something called siege mode, and once activated your dreads can no longer move.
You might want to look it up.
Ya I know what it is and they all stayed for the fight as some could have got out of siege in that time, unlike Razor/Iron who left MM dreads to die in Querious when you guys were jumped.
And they didn't jump any of the dreads out they could have, seeing how RA/AAA probably didn't jump in till a few min into the cycle and knowing the fight would last more then 10min or should have with those fittings.
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The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:52:00 -
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Nice job RA and AAA.
It's never nice to lose so much cap ships and once, but as long as the coaltition is already falling a part* don't think BOB will have much headaches about it.
*RA turning on there bleus, Tri and YW getting out of the northen coaltition, the north as an whole retreating to CR instead of fighting in Fountain. AAA stoping the attack on mc, the northern coalition not getting anything done in Q.
"It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you." |

Jita TradeAlt
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:57:00 -
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*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
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Lasakywa
Caldari Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:57:00 -
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OMG tell me there is a vidTo !
Great job Guys 
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.12 17:58:00 -
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Originally by: Xeliya
And how are they doing what North did, they declared war on an Enemy who was at home and attacking them head on. I doubt they will quit and pull back like some over a few dread losses. Only reason they will pull back is if you guys start to spam POS's again.
Erm, they went on the "offensive" to reclaim a system that their enemies had sovreignty in. The system was virtually empty, they deployed dreads, sieged and then got mauled by a larger force that cynoed on top of them.
That would E X A C T L Y what happened when D2 lost dreads to BoB and when the northern coalition lost dreads to BoB.
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And they didn't jump the dreads out they could, they stayed in siege mode
What are you talking about? Are you saying that the dreads were not warp scrambled (remember that the attacking fleet had carriers too) and that the BoB FC decided to just stay in and die because he felt like it? If BoB could have gotten out and lost even two fewer dreads they would have done it and they would have been right to do it (probably one fewer if you want to compare isk value of what they killed to one of their own dreads).
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Originally by: Gamesguy There is this module called siege module, it activates something called siege mode, and once activated your dreads can no longer move.
You might want to look it up.
Ya I know what it is and they all stayed for the fight as some could have got out of siege in that time, unlike Razor/Iron who left MM dreads to die in Querious when you guys were jumped.
Yep I am sure that BoB voluntary left dreads on grid that had no hope of surviving just because they could. This would clearly be the sort of tactical acumen that has made BoB powerful.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Tomic
Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:00:00 -
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Originally by: Swirlar Edited by: Swirlar on 12/03/2007 17:14:55 Edited by: Swirlar on 12/03/2007 17:11:23 Sounds Familiar.
The Lagg-ganski. They did the same thing to LV in dg-, then again in JV1V a month or so ago. LV lost 12 dreads first time out. Hey Devs, wake up. RA keeps doing this and winning due to their manipulation of lag in battle. How many petitions does the entire Eve-community have to send you to get you to pay attention and do something about it? Apparently several hundred aren't enough. The situation: we all get lag, but RA is able to recover from it much faster than anyone else. The CCP solution: see no evil, taste no evil, hear no evil being done.
If RA/Goons want to pat themselves on the back for wins like this, they prove they are shameless.
Strange....when ASCN fought BOB there was tons of lag and BOB managed to recover much better than ASCN. We petitioned it then, and nothing happened. Guess if both sides are playing the lag game and not getting banned its up to them to be the "best" at that game. But do not believe for one minute that BOB are innocent in this lag-tactic.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Swirlar The Lagg-ganski. They did the same thing to LV in dg-, then again in JV1V a month or so ago. LV lost 12 dreads first time out. Hey Devs, wake up. RA keeps doing this and winning due to their manipulation of lag in battle.
Ah - ha.
But if BoB kills 50+ BS and loosing only 1 or 2 and the killed people report heavy lag and waking up in station before they could do anything then they are 'whiners' and BoB won because of their superious tactics and fighting abilities?
If BoB killed several D2 dreads in Fountain because of lag then the D2 of course were n00bs and BoB had so much superiour battle abilities? But if BoB looses some dreads due to lag it is because the 'others' cheated and exploited? When Iron/MM looses ships then it is of course due to their inability and not the lag?
Sounds somehow ridicoulus. Also... if there was such horrible lag for BoB how did they manage to kill two capital ships then? No, your assumptions don't make sense here.
Grats to RA to this work. Laying smoke screens that their cap fleet is far away fighting some former allies, luring BoB to attack this pos. Nice trap, well executed. BoB won't do the same mistake twice.
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Jane Spondogolo
NoobWaffe
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Swirlar Edited by: Swirlar on 12/03/2007 17:14:55 Edited by: Swirlar on 12/03/2007 17:11:23 Sounds Familiar.
The Lagg-ganski. They did the same thing to LV in dg-, then again in JV1V a month or so ago. LV lost 12 dreads first time out. Hey Devs, wake up. RA keeps doing this and winning due to their manipulation of lag in battle. How many petitions does the entire Eve-community have to send you to get you to pay attention and do something about it? Apparently several hundred aren't enough. The situation: we all get lag, but RA is able to recover from it much faster than anyone else. The CCP solution: see no evil, taste no evil, hear no evil being done.
If RA/Goons want to pat themselves on the back for wins like this, they prove they are shameless.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner here!
Did it eeever dawn on you for a second that maybe... just maybe.... that RA after 3 years of total war might actually be rather good at this game?
And quick hint: Stop presuming to speak for "the entire eve community". 
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Wylker
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Wylker Before the "coalition" breaks their collectve arm patting themselves on the back. I look at the killmails and see a bunch of AAA cap ships. I thought AAA wern't part of the coalition? Or is this once again people with no teeth (IAC, KOS, etc) taking credit for the work of other alliances? KOS I hope you can defend your space when RA and -A- arnt there to do it for you. Or are you just their pets/slaves/random derogatory term you use to describe bob allys.
Er, good luck with your train and such. Let us know how it goes with the other 10 towers that are reinforced out there.
Don't confuse people being happy with people taking credit lest you find yourself having to chastise Xelas, FIX, RISE, MWD, executive outcomes, MC etc everytime they post in a thread about a BoB win in which they were either completely uninvolved or very minimally involved.
Well, heres the problem. The coalition keeps listing all these things that make BoB and allys bad people. Ie: bob is haxxor, bob is expansionist, bob abuses pets, bob pets can't defend themselves etc.
The bottom line is that the coalition has done EVERY SINGLE THING they accuse bob of doing, and in many cases have done more of it or have done it to a greater degree. RA has already completely betrayed SMASH (LV & -V- anyone?). RA is a known exploiter of complexes, you are allied with goons (i think thats a dead horse but can write 2 pages on it if you want), -A- is now defending coaltion space and they practically invented logoffski.
I do not mind anyone being congratulatory. What i mind is all the hypocricy and BS that spews out of peoples mouths non-stop when they simply choose to be ignorant of facts that are right in front of thier faces because the facts are inconvenient to their forum e-peen point. I don't think theres any illusion as to who I support in this conflict, but god at least I dont get on the forums and publicly expose my willing ignorance of reality.
I recon I'm a haxxor, cheatxxor, xploitxxor just because I'm allied with Goons. You're so smart to tell this to me, I've almost forgotten the devil was indeed a nice and fun person. Your point is pathetic tbh. "RA & friends exploit the game, are loggonski, laggers (...), exploiters, cheaters, (...) betrayers, they eat babies, (...) and can't type english !oneone".
COME ON.
We are not the nice guys. You are not the nice guys. I guess that if you had choose our side, the bad guys in your mouth would be Bob & co. That is not true.
I don't see why Bob would have to win with dirty tactics and we would have to say "hey, we are Knigths of Honnor of Prideness and Glory, we don't play that.".
Dirty tactics vs dirty tactics. Welcome to Eve PvP. -----
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Love DNGD
Dark Nebula Gallente Division Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim Baun, just take it for what it is.
9 Dreads killed.
No point debating if the mods make it "close to 30 in value" or what each dread had fitted.
Im quiet sure the same pilots will be in new dreads within a day or less so dunno why u worry about it. BoB lost for the first time a bigger amount of dreads, well done RA but it wont mystically solve all problems or win the war for the coalition. Remember BoB fielded on one occasion ~ 60 capitals. Im confident they wont be in frigs 2morrow.
Give it a rest already.
Well presented, seems The Five still has more sence than 90% of the eve-o forum crew [don tinfoil hat]
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Xeliya
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Xeliya on 12/03/2007 18:09:24
Originally by: Baun Erm, they went on the "offensive" to reclaim a system that their enemies had sovreignty in. The system was virtually empty, they deployed dreads, sieged and then got mauled by a larger force that cynoed on top of them.
Umm C3- was never BoB's it was ISS who surrendured. So ya they are on the offensive.
Originally by: Baun What are you talking about? Are you saying that the dreads were not warp scrambled (remember that the attacking fleet had carriers too) and that the BoB FC decided to just stay in and die because he felt like it? If BoB could have gotten out and lost even two fewer dreads they would have done it and they would have been right to do it (probably one fewer if you want to compare isk value of what they killed to one of their own dreads).
Read the report only support was BoB's They didn't bring support so BoB wouldn't be tipped off. Also to cyno out right when they exit siege mod is not hard as you cannot scram a dread till it leave siege and you don't know when that is unless they start moving.
Originally by: Baun Yep I am sure that BoB voluntary left dreads on grid that had no hope of surviving just because they could. This would clearly be the sort of tactical acumen that has made BoB powerful.
As said before BoB declared war for a fight, anyone in the south will tell you fighting is what we do and I'm glad its back on fire again because after the ASCN war it sucked.
To POS spam and only attack systems when you know you wont get attacked to say you have won is not our thing. If BoB tryed to jump out they may have still lost all 9 and not get a kill. RA/AAA just had the advantage of getting on top of BoB with close range fit. As I said a well executed plan on their behalf.
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Entilzah Valen
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:15:00 -
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About time.  __________________________
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MacDuncan
Minmatar Unknown Society
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Posted - 2007.03.12 18:22:00 -
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Just a side note: Looking @the KM's i realise it seems to be that some BoB-Dread pilots are using the "new combat boosters" (in cargo), especially the Revelation pilots...impressive...just on a side note... --
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