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FarScape III
Legion Federation
Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:10:00 -
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Edited by: FarScape III on 13/03/2007 08:03:04
What the hay CCP! Now I gotta quit my corp because of a .08 standing. Because they are trying to get an 8.0 average with this particulr corp.
Their trying to get jump clones and they got over 100 people.
CCP because of your stupid game mechanics larg corps can't get jump clone or they have to not have an awsome person like me in their corp.
By the way this new corp I'm in is realy awsome, to bad I'll have to likely quit because of this.
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Ductoris
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:16:00 -
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Isn't there a corp that will let you buy jump clones with them?
If so offer to pay for him to use their service.
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Sheriff Jones
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:17:00 -
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Why do i remember the name FArscape from way back when...ahyhoop.
If it's a corp you WANT, really want to stay in. Start grinding.
If it's a good corp, a friendly one, they'll help you out. Grinding NPC standing with an "overpower" crew can be fun.
Try to see if you could, if not allready have you do(yodayada), get some social skills. It helps more then you know.
I guess...umm...that's it really. I'd personally hate being in a corp that would kick me for that, but then again, i wouldn't want to be a part of any corp that would have me as a member 
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FarScape III
Legion Federation
Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Why do i remember the name FArscape from way back when...ahyhoop.
If it's a corp you WANT, really want to stay in. Start grinding.
If it's a good corp, a friendly one, they'll help you out. Grinding NPC standing with an "overpower" crew can be fun.
Try to see if you could, if not allready have you do(yodayada), get some social skills. It helps more then you know.
I guess...umm...that's it really. I'd personally hate being in a corp that would kick me for that, but then again, i wouldn't want to be a part of any corp that would have me as a member
Thanks but I do have the social skills like Connection 4 but it does not show up in that list were all the corp members who have any standing good or bad are averaged out.
In that list your real score shows up
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Katrynna Zain
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:30:00 -
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theres really few options for this.
as mentioned above.
1.start grinding if you really want to stay with this corp.
better yet start grinding with they guys that are trying to get that standing up. youll be much closer to that 8.0 by the time they're done that its more likely they will help you finsh up yours.
2.look into one of those jumpclone corps that you pay to join get your jumpclones and rejoin your corp. although this option is something you'll need to discuss with your corpmates. as for it to work on the corp everyone in the corp needs to do it to bypass the need for standing.
3. find another corp. probably the easiest option. although you could run into the same problom.
goodluck
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Sheriff Jones
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: FarScape III
Thanks but I do have the social skills like Connection 4 but it does not show up in that list were all the corp members who have any standing good or bad are averaged out.
In that list your real score shows up
Ah, sorry about that then. Thought that effected it 
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FarScape III
Legion Federation
Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ductoris
Isn't there a corp that will let you buy jump clones with them?
If so offer to pay for him to use their service.
If he wants his corp to have jump clones with one particular corp he is just gonna have to not have anyone with average low standings like under 1.0 join the corp OR he could just by those jump clones him self, I'm not doing all that. Who would?
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Korizan
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:32:00 -
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Edited by: Korizan on 13/03/2007 06:32:23
Not sure who else is doing it but I will offer my corps jump clone abilities.
You can join and get a clone and leave NP.
Please contact:
Korizan @ OORT CLOUD INDUSTRIES.
Easy enough to find a station near your location and rent a office so your whole corp can rotate through if need be.
Price : negotiable
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FarScape III
Legion Federation
Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:38:00 -
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Edited by: FarScape III on 13/03/2007 06:35:55
Originally by: Katrynna Zain
theres really few options for this.
as mentioned above.
1.start grinding if you really want to stay with this corp.
better yet start grinding with they guys that are trying to get that standing up. youll be much closer to that 8.0 by the time they're done that its more likely they will help you finsh up yours.
2.look into one of those jumpclone corps that you pay to join get your jumpclones and rejoin your corp. although this option is something you'll need to discuss with your corpmates. as for it to work on the corp everyone in the corp needs to do it to bypass the need for standing.
3. find another corp. probably the easiest option. although you could run into the same problom.
goodluck
I would grind it out with this person but since standings don't get split, that kinda sucks for one of us.
I'm just going to quit and make sure the next corp I try to join does not want to try and get a 100 + corp to have an 8.0 average with an NPC corp.
there are other people they are going to have to boot out too, is every one with a standing sapposed to go crazy grinding with an NPC corp they have no intrest in?
Screw it I'm quiting.
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FarScape III
Legion Federation
Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan
Edited by: Korizan on 13/03/2007 06:32:23
Not sure who else is doing it but I will offer my corps jump clone abilities.
You can join and get a clone and leave NP.
Please contact:
Korizan @ OORT CLOUD INDUSTRIES.
Easy enough to find a station near your location and rent a office so your whole corp can rotate through if need be.
Price : negotiable
Well that's cool, maybe if this new corp I'm in did something like that instead of pushing some HUGE grind, they would not have to refrain from inviting some good people into their corp and they would not have to have to boot them out if they don't get an 8.0 either.
What if he got the 8.0 and then someone is hired on accident that lowers their average? this guy gets booted out again? Because they all of a sudden cant get jump clones any more for the corp?
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BentMyWookie
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Posted - 2007.03.13 06:45:00 -
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Tell the leadership in your corp that it'd be a lot easier for everyone involved to just have the two or three players with the highest standing to the NPC corp to form an alt corp (only costs like 1 mil isk or so). Then anyone who needs a jump clone can hop out of the original corp and into the alt corp for a day or two to create the jump clone, then go back.
Trying to maintain high corp standing to an NPC corp with your actual corporation of 100-200 players would be an uphill battle with new people always joining - and what if you need to relocate your corp HQ, or CCP sends your NPC corp somewhere else during a patch? Then you're screwed.
Your corp's leadership is a little inexperienced. They're trying to do something good for their corp (provide jump clones) but they're going about it all wrong.
-Wookie
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FarScape III
Legion Federation
Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.13 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: BentMyWookie
Tell the leadership in your corp that it'd be a lot easier for everyone involved to just have the two or three players with the highest standing to the NPC corp to form an alt corp (only costs like 1 mil isk or so). Then anyone who needs a jump clone can hop out of the original corp and into the alt corp for a day or two to create the jump clone, then go back.
-Wookie
I'm not sure they would want to do that if those guys would have to stay in the other corp
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Shakka Zulu
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Posted - 2007.03.13 07:55:00 -
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So please QUIT.
Your only friend is the STANDING.
Bye bye.
Bansai Bansai Bansai
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FarScape III
Legion Federation
Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.13 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Shakka Zulu
So please QUIT.
Your only friend is the STANDING.
Bye bye.
Bansai Bansai Bansai
I did but it says you have to wait 23 more hours after getting rid of your roles. Stupid huh?
But yeah I'm going to quit tomorrow 23 hours from now lol.
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MattSB
Rage of Angels
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.03.13 08:15:00 -
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Sucks a bit but meh, anyway:
1) I thought they changed it so only personal standings was required for jumpcloens and corp level standings were not, a patch or so ago ?
2) Why not just go to EC-P8R and use the jumpclone service D2 provides there (as an anouncment was made saying no standings are required) yeh it's a dangerous system but all you need is to be in frigs and to put through a alt shuttle to check for any bubbles and you would be fine, would only need to do it once okay well twice once you jump to the clone then to get back to empire. That jumpclone then is available all the time and can be moved to any station you want.
My 2 cents
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Marine HK4861
Caldari
Seoltachd
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Posted - 2007.03.13 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: MattSB
Sucks a bit but meh, anyway:
1) I thought they changed it so only personal standings was required for jumpcloens and corp level standings were not, a patch or so ago ?
They changed it from needing both at 8.0 to only one at 8.0.
You can use your personal standing to get jump clones or you can use your corp's standing to get jump clones.
To the OP: suggest to your leadership that one person runs missions exclusively for a NPC corp that nobody else has worked for and ban everybody else from working for that corp.
The corp standing will then reflect that single player's standing. Once his standing hits 8.0 and the corp standing has adjusted to 8.0, then everybody can install jump clones with that npc corp.
Just make sure that:
1)the npc corp has medical facilities and
2)nobody else has standing or works for that corp. To check, look up your corp standings, right click on the corp, show composition. Anybody with standing will show up on the list and how much they're contributing to the corp average.
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.13 09:43:00 -
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go to P8R, dock, install clone, run :)
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Jacinta Bracken
Total Mayhem.
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Posted - 2007.03.13 09:53:00 -
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Can I have your stuff? (someone had to say it)
It seems to me though that you're quiting eve because the corp you are in atm are t**ts and as far as I'm aware that's not CCP's fault; there is nothing really wrong with the jump clone game mechanic as far as I can see. Stop being such a drama queen.
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Malcanis
Galactech Industries Ltd.
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jacinta Bracken
Can I have your stuff? (someone had to say it)
It seems to me though that you're quiting eve because the corp you are in atm are t**ts and as far as I'm aware that's not CCP's fault; there is nothing really wrong with the jump clone game mechanic as far as I can see. Stop being such a drama queen.
"Now I gotta quit my corp "
Reading = win
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Awox
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:11:00 -
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Harden the **** up and find a corp with 0.0 friends.
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Drexciyian
Blackdog Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:40:00 -
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Didnt D2 open up EC-P station to everyone? gi there and buy jump clones, maybe if its a 100 people they'll do your corp a deal
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Roshan longshot
Gallente
Ordos Humanitas
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ductoris
Isn't there a corp that will let you buy jump clones with them?
If so offer to pay for him to use their service.
You did'nt read OP did you?
His Corp needs a +8.0 standing ON AVERAGE to get jump clones installed. OP has a 0.8 standing..he is drawing the rest of his corp average down.
This faction thing all well and good serves no purpose in Eve at this time. I waited to see what would happen, and so far not ****. Now all the hoop is for WIS and it appears faction warfare has gone out the window.
CCP disable factions untill they are NEEDED in game and not *soon*.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box.
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FarScape III
Legion Federation
Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.13 10:58:00 -
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Edited by: FarScape III on 13/03/2007 10:57:00
Originally by: Jacinta Bracken
Can I have your stuff? (someone had to say it)
It seems to me though that you're quiting eve because the corp you are in atm are t**ts and as far as I'm aware that's not CCP's fault; there is nothing really wrong with the jump clone game mechanic as far as I can see. Stop being such a drama queen.
Are you crazy, I'm not quiting EVE, I'm just having to quit the corp I just got into because my one standing with an NPC corp is lowering the average, so I have to quit to not mess up their average for that NPC corp.
The sucky thing is I was not told this when I joined up with them.
So now I'm just going to go back to my old corp with me being the only one in it, woooopeee!
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Roshan longshot
Gallente
Ordos Humanitas
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.13 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jacinta Bracken
Can I have your stuff? (someone had to say it)
It seems to me though that you're quiting eve because the corp you are in atm are t**ts and as far as I'm aware that's not CCP's fault; there is nothing really wrong with the jump clone game mechanic as far as I can see. Stop being such a drama queen.
You Cant read either....Factions DONT WORK! Faction Warfare has not been activated yet! So his 0.8 draws the average of his corp down. And his corp in hole cannot get jump clone access at this station.
Free-form Professions, ensure no limetations on professions. Be a trader, fighter, industialist, researcher, hunter pirate or mixture of them all.
[i]As read from the original box.
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Wulfstan
Caldari
The Sweeney
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Posted - 2007.03.13 11:04:00 -
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Sorry to hear your situation mate.
I've got to say I think this is a bit broken, because of the way null standing versus low standings works.
Where "I don't know you at all, never met you, never seen you", is counted above "Hi, I know you, you've done a few low level missions for me."
It actually works in my favour, but it doesn't seem right.
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FarScape III
Legion Federation
Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.13 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Roshan longshot
Originally by: Ductoris
Isn't there a corp that will let you buy jump clones with them?
If so offer to pay for him to use their service.
You did'nt read OP did you?
His Corp needs a +8.0 standing ON AVERAGE to get jump clones installed. OP has a 0.8 standing..he is drawing the rest of his corp average down.
This faction thing all well and good serves no purpose in Eve at this time. I waited to see what would happen, and so far not ****. Now all the hoop is for WIS and it appears faction warfare has gone out the window.
CCP disable factions untill they are NEEDED in game and not *soon*.
A agree, I mean you can't even hire a person you realy like into your corp because they happend to do a couple of missions for your JUMP Clone NPC corp?
I would hope this Factional Warfare bull fixes this stuff.
What the heck, it is stupid to try to have a NPC corp for jump clones for your whole corp when you are not able to invite anyone the has a low standing with them. That is just lame, I wish CCP would read this but hell they won't.
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FarScape III
Legion Federation
Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.13 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: FarScape III on 13/03/2007 11:12:38
Originally by: Wulfstan
Sorry to hear your situation mate.
Thanks but the sad thing is that this efects every one, someone could look at your standing and not except you and you might never realy know why. Or however one would want to describe the bull of this siduation.
Originally by: Wulfstan
I've got to say I think this is a bit broken, because of the way null standing versus low standings works.
Where "I don't know you at all, never met you, never seen you", is counted above "Hi, I know you, you've done a few low level missions for me."
It actually works in my favour, but it doesn't seem right.
It is stupid to actualy be worse off because you are in good standings with NPC Corps but have like a .08.
What are we sapposed to do, only work for one corp, that is boring and dose not happen anyways.
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FalconHawk
Amarr
Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.03.13 12:03:00 -
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and jump clones is only 8.0 with a corp  the prob realy starts when u want to set up a high sec pos with a corp with more than 20 members, they all need to grind their mains and alt to get a high standing
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Wulfstan
Caldari
The Sweeney
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Posted - 2007.03.13 12:18:00 -
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How's this for a plan to put to your corp directors?
Get everyone to list what positive corp standings they have with ALL NPC corps. Get someone to set them out in a table (Excel or summat) with names down one side and corps along the top. (You have corp forums?)
Then pick a really obscureNPC corp that no-one has used and no-one has standings with, then ONE person in the corp grinds standings with that NPC corp.
That saves any players in your corp from getting kicked, but you'd need to make sure no new members are taken on if they have any standings at all with that NPC corp, or they will get kicked until they are 8.0+
Seems a real shame to retroactively kick current members.
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.13 12:54:00 -
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This is a somewhat silly thing for your corp to do IMO...
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Dunedon
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Posted - 2007.03.13 13:23:00 -
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Of course the corp could also just encourage it's members to get to 8.0 standing with the NPC corp by themselves (where connections does count) ... and then the people that wanted jump clones could have them, they'd just have to work for them.
You don't NEED a corp rating of 8.0, just a personal one .... unlike having a high-sec POS where it has to be corp rating *grumble*grumble*
- Dunedon
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Benco97
Gallente
Multiverse Corporation
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Posted - 2007.03.13 13:27:00 -
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It's great, No NPC groups like me much but i've got jumpclones ^^
Hooray for being able to ride on the back of other people's work 
Seriously though, you know... you don't get jumpclones and suddenly win the game or something.. they just help you move (or if you're some sort of ***** let you protect implants)
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.13 13:27:00 -
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Screw them. Any corp that A) would kick you out over something like this and B) is dumb enough to embark on getting 8.0 NPC corp standings with over 100 members isn't worth being in.
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incist
Gallente
NALOH
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Posted - 2007.03.13 14:12:00 -
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CCP recently changed it where you dont need Corp AND personal standing, just one or the other. If someone in the corp has a 8.0 personal standing but the corp doesnt, that person can still get jump clones.
So tell them to go try once they get over 8.0, and then you pay me 1 billion isk!
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Ravenal
The Fated
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Posted - 2007.03.13 14:51:00 -
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more accurately:
- if you have 8.0 standing towards an npc corp that has cloning facilities YOU can install jump clones in those stations
- if your corp has an average 8.0 standing towards an npc corp that has cloning facilities EVERY MEMBER in the corp can install jump clones in those stations EVEN though they do not have 8.0 standings themselves.
noteworthy item, corp average standings does not include social skills but trying to install jump clones from personal standings does include social skills.
so, tell your silly ceos that they are wrong, they are playing by old game mechanics.
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Krulla
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.13 15:03:00 -
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If this is a corp that will kick members for not having 8.0 standings with some empire, this is a corp you do not want to be in.
They're asshats. Move on and find a better corp.
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Drykor
Minmatar
Stormriders
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2007.03.13 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Patch86
Screw them. Any corp that A) would kick you out over something like this and B) is dumb enough to embark on getting 8.0 NPC corp standings with over 100 members isn't worth being in.
Signed
What a bunch of *censored*. You'll find better corporations who care for their members practically everywhere
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Loyal Servant
Caldari
The Short Bus Squad
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.03.13 16:42:00 -
[38]
We have the same rules.
We have an 8.0 standing with several NPC corps, and we have access to cloning facilities at stations that belong to alliances that are friends with us.
But, the rule with the NPC standings are... you run missions for them, shoot them, or do anything to degrade the standings = kick.
REGARDLESS of the fact we can install clones in stations belonging to alliance friends or not.
I understand the rule, so .... he has to quit.
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.13 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Splagada on 13/03/2007 18:05:17
i dont get all that fuss for npc standings for jumpclones?
what is the advantage?
dock in outpost A, install clone. move, jumpclone
install clone, move, jumpclone
install clone, move, jumpclone
install clone, move, jumpclone
install clone, move, jumpclone
done, 5 jumpclones?
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Argenton Sayvers
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Posted - 2007.03.13 20:33:00 -
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CCP encouraging alts and alt corps - whats new? Empire POS are especially fun ... sounds really impossible to get until you realize that you only need to grind the standings on one alt.
Anyway, ISS used to offer jumpclone services, and it looks like d2 made them aviable as well. Get them one jump from Torrinos, move them to desired locations, never look back. I dont know a way to lose jumpclones, so the only reason to get NPC standings is that you are in a corp full of slave / snake addicts who are afraid to get killed on first run into ec-.
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Kruugore
Minmatar
Vigilant Justice
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Posted - 2007.03.13 20:39:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Kruugore on 13/03/2007 20:38:27
n/m apparently it was changed hehe
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.03.13 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 13/03/2007 20:36:44
That's a bad move from the corp's side. And an unecesary one too. I'm sure somebody on that corp already has the 8.0 with somebody. All they needed to do is this:
1) The guy with 8.0+ makes an alt corp.
2) Make one storyline and wait for corp standings to rise.
3) Anybody interested in a jumpclone, join alt corp and create jump-clone(s) before down-time.
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.13 20:42:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Soporo on 13/03/2007 20:40:28
Out of curiosity, what is the corps big focus, whats their thang?
Are they somehow trying to get ready for Factional Warfare, or lowsec missioning or rp'ers or what?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.03.13 21:30:00 -
[44]
This is why missions should be removed from the game.
Or at least uncoupled from standings.
I mean, ffs, CCP try to say this is a PvP focused game and yet for any number of people to get direct access to these services requires them *all* to go through a huge grind in the most non-PvP part of the game.
I must bookmark this thread so the next time mission runners say we should just leave them in peace as their gameplay doesn't affect anyone else, I can point them to it.
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