And a lot of that problem, IMO, has to do with the transition between your standard MMO and "Create your own content". I think people feel lost when they start Eve. Like "what am i suppose to do" because they honestly arent use to thinking for themselves in a video game. They are use to being told what to do next.

The players could help with that transition sure. But i think CCP should also focus on "weening" new players off the standard MMO mentality by starting them out with some direction and then decreasing that direction over time/progress. Until they learn how to play in the sandbox and entertain themselves.

Opportunities and career agents are a start, but their needs to be more really and those options need to be more obvious.

It's actually quite coincidental that you should bring this up now, while I'm actually on SWTOR myself and just got done with a very long conversation with a whole bunch of people in DK chat about the difference between a PVP focused game, and a PVE one, with many an EVE player happy to chime in about the game being one of the best PVP experiences that they have had. Not a little ironic though that the conversation was brought about by someone bragging about how 'hot ****' they are at PVP in SWTOR.

Anyway, I can say from my experience that your assertion is untrue. I have lots of conversations about EVE while playing other online games of many varieties. Please try a new premise instead of this demonstrably false one if you want to convince me that EVE's image is the problem.

And of course you have a source on this load of bollux people say in this forum but ... fail to attribute. Waiting patiently. Thank you very much!

It feels like you are very dogmatic about that.
What if they are wrong. Maybe not entirely, but the situation is more complex and their conclusions are slightly off.
Dogmata are bad.
Issue is only they can do research (even when that are only poor attempts) because only they have the data.

The girl on the last picture in pretty but where are results of this 'science'? You know: numbers like they provided on two other pictures?

I'm sure if they have nice numbers they would show it? But they didn't?
Instead they made pretty wide conclusion which would be happily accepted by players on Fan-Fest. PR you know....

It would be really interesting to see real data they have collected.

Well.... If you really want to evade this question.... Then you CAN use maneuvers like that.

But 'NO U' does not make YOUR story more clean and trustworthy. And yes, it's YOUR story because YOU repeat it in every thread. YOU gave these 3 pictures so i would like YOU to tell ME why there are no any real results provided on 3rd picture. You believe to this story so either you have proofs or it's your bias.

And about 'CCP are lying'.... I'm pretty sure YOU know how to take their words spoken on Fan Fest.

A scam you are still paying for. That would make CCP scammers, but would make you a ________. Fill in your own blanks.

Elite, No Man's Sky, STO etc, if you don't like one space game find another.

I do understand where you are coming from. I just disagree.

Obviously it's all a matter of degree. If EVE game play was replaced by multiplayer Tetris, then EVE indeed would have died even if that game was still called EVE and made by CCP. However, there is typically a narrowness and one-sidedness to these definitions. Frankly, it's a lot like talking about pop music. A lot of people have the opinion that "pop music was great in the decade when I was a young adult, but since then it has gone downhill and the stuff young people listen to today is just garbage." And measured by the standards of the decade when they were young adults, they are quite reasonable in their assessment. But that does not make current pop music actually garbage (or more garbage than most pop music always is). Just different. Evolved, or if you want to be less friendly, mutated. In particular, it is still pop music.

EVE cannot be strictly held to whatever the first generations of pilots really enjoyed. Anachronism does not pay server bills. It could have been the case that freezing EVE as kind of living museum, enjoyed largely by the same group of people as in the beginning, pays off. Just like there are radio stations that have only 80s/90s music on their rotation. But apparently this is not the case, or at least not the case enough. EVE seems to be slowly fading, and CCP cannot really be blamed for trying to stop that by changing EVE away from certain ideals once held by most of its players.

My point has not been "outlaw gankers", or whatever. My point has been that most people most of the time do not pew-pew in EVE. And that it would be worthwhile for CCP to invest significant time and resources into improving and polishing the parts of the game in which player (for better or worse) do spend most of their online time. The attitude that all but the pew-pew can be quite Spartan and lacklustre because it "just doesn't count" is in my opinion mistaken. That may have been the attitude of the people that played the early versions, but I don't think that it is the attitude of people coming in now. And if CCP needs them, then it has to adapt EVE accordingly. Sooner rather than later.

You see this is why a little knowledge on gaming trends will help you form a better argument. Gaming trends tell you people don't want to play with or against hordes of other people. The trends tell you people want to play in groups of 5 - 10 people max and solo. People want specific roles and responsibilities within the gaming experiences. By my account CCP aren't taking any of this into account and keep pushing a game to be played in massive groups. a prime example of this is the typical hero bait whilst a fleet waits for a snag. This is why the game isn't engaging and isn't pulling players. Its dull and predictable.