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PC5 ClanKillers	Posted - 2007.03.13 16:49:00 - [61] Edited by: PC5 on 13/03/2007 16:55:38 Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. Their last action was a few days ago, when they sieged 2 pos's, only to find 3 days stront in each, and as the medium pos dropped into re-enforced, they all ran and hid to avoid a fight; eg, D2 arn't deploying capitals without superior numbers in every way shape and form by a 2:1 ratio. If this ratio isn't met, they log off. I can't say I'm impressed. I was impresed when Xelas member was beaging on local not to kill him while hes NPCing durning WAR. Please tell us what your alliance did in this war?
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.13 16:55:00 - [62] Originally by: Mynas Atoch lol They are virtual toys in a pretend spacepaceship video game .. we are playing with them and having a lot of laughs and fun. If I worried about the future every time I got a ship to 52% armor I'd never undock! Yes. When we shown up in PB - i saw your virtual toys under POS shield. Or staying 2cm outside POS shield. Indeed lol As for 9 bob dreds. Without doubt, they are all already replaced. This is just little slap in the face. Want to kill POS ? Remember, that you are not that uber, and get good support fleet. Even if you are fighting KOS
LeviUK hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.13 16:59:00 - [63] I and some RZR/MM/friends enjoyed a pretty good fight with a Xelas gang in UHKL-N last week (over midnight on 9th/10th) they certainly didn't run (~30 ships on either side), the battle seemed to go on for ages and was quite exhilarating. I do believe one Xelas ship survived and we lost 3 (according to full battle report on Razor killboard) but that's not the point.. I'm fairly sure all ~60 pilots there had a lot of fun for those relatively lag-free 20mins or so. That's the kind of fight I play Eve for.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:17:00 - [64] Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 13/03/2007 17:15:32 Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Mynas Atoch lol They are virtual toys in a pretend spacepaceship video game .. we are playing with them and having a lot of laughs and fun. If I worried about the future every time I got a ship to 52% armor I'd never undock! Yes. When we shown up in PB - i saw your virtual toys under POS shield. Or staying 2cm outside POS shield. Indeed lol And when did you last put one of your Motherships or your Titan into the thick of a fight where it went into armour? Your virtual spaceships spend more time virtually logged out waiting for the right moment to logonski or cyno in for a gank, than actually shooting stuff. Seems such a pity to spend so much time training a character and then have it sitting at the logon screen. One thing I can certainly predict .. there is zero risk of AAA losing a mothership or titan in combat. Myn
MynChu NicAtoch Atoch Family Holdings	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:18:00 - [65] Edited by: MynChu NicAtoch on 13/03/2007 17:14:52 oops
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:20:00 - [66] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Mynas Atoch lol They are virtual toys in a pretend spacepaceship video game .. we are playing with them and having a lot of laughs and fun. If I worried about the future every time I got a ship to 52% armor I'd never undock! Yes. When we shown up in PB - i saw your virtual toys under POS shield. Or staying 2cm outside POS shield. Indeed lol And when did you last put one of your Motherships or your Titan into the thick of a fight where it went into armour? Your virtual spaceships spend more time virtually logged out waiting for the right moment to logonski or cyno in for a gank, than actually shooting stuff. Seems such a pity to spend so much time training a character and then have it sitting at the logon screen. Myn And i`m still better than you, according to your killboard. So stfu, and don`t tell that you are bringing it. Against weak alliances - may be. Against people, who can kill your virtual toys - not.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:33:00 - [67] Edited by: Seleene on 13/03/2007 17:32:02 MC - STFU. ET - This will be my only comment on this: You say you wanted a straight up fight, yet you put a few of our POS into reinforced to draw us home. When the time came, you showed up to see over 30 capital ships waiting on you to hit the big red siege button with more arriving every hour. You wanted a fun fight but we had no other priorities than to simply stand our ground. We did so. No apologies that you did not get the fight you wanted or hoped for. You didn't win. You didn't lose. It was a stand-off, you eventually got bored and left. Either way, safe travels. o/ - Vid - 'Killing Mother'
Trooper B99 Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:35:00 - [68] Quote: Against weak alliances - may be. Against people, who can kill your virtual toys - not. So thats what you think of the Northern alliances such as RAWR etc eh ET, weak? Apologies for putting words in your mouth, but the MC moms have seen plenty of frontline action against decent alliace forces, while that might not include -A- alliance battleship groups, thats not to say they are weak. . Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106 PvP Tournament Semi-Finalist - 2006 FanFest
MalaMo TMF	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:37:00 - [69] Originally by: Mynas Atoch And when did you last put one of your Motherships or your Titan into the thick of a fight where it went into armour? I hear problems with computers can be pretty nasty when you put you motherships in such situation... ------------- Don't drink and drive, logon to EVE and fly.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:39:00 - [70] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 13/03/2007 17:32:02 MC - STFU. /me suddenly finds logistics work he is supposed to be doing
Faceless Pokemon United Earth Directorate	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:43:00 - [71] Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. Their last action was a few days ago, when they sieged 2 pos's, only to find 3 days stront in each, and as the medium pos dropped into re-enforced, they all ran and hid to avoid a fight; eg, D2 arn't deploying capitals without superior numbers in every way shape and form by a 2:1 ratio. If this ratio isn't met, they log off. I can't say I'm impressed. Proxay, i am not sure whether you read my open letter or not. But this sort of thing is exactly what i was referring to. "Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all" Right.. because our members form a gang once every week max and even then we have 4-5 and rest external. Posting things like that perpetuates the problem. The enemy would have a hard time killing our pvp forces as we barely have any. your a senior member of alliance, please do something about it before we all just leave.
Opium	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:58:00 - [72] im not an alt. devs fix my profile.. shiva employ 12 months in game since beta. how did this post become about xelas?i will say one thing about the war. when we are fighting xelas we have won, you are last on the list . barley even on it,as a matter of fact u are on the last page of anything we have going on. or maybe youre first now.and alot of us are in this war to just fight,we have chosen this side because we want an evil empire to fight, bob has filled every all the requirements to fit the evil empire persona,and yes alot of us dont even want it to end we just want to fight,and to all m8;s in all norther coaltion ive fought with cheers , cheers guys its fun as can be,to fix andall of bobs pets : / welll u guys are not at all impressiveyou would all be gone except for bob, and props to bob we have been fighting eachother along time and always good fun and excellent tactics, mc to goodjob very professional and good fun... exuro whatever? u guys bleh last ones in to fight all in shiny hacs havnt even been in the fight a week, come by next weekk when ur all in crows and the next week when ur in ibis, we all brought 12 ships aday for a total of6 months then reserves will be ready,,, and props to coalition the only people who consitently jump intpo camped areas at a disadvantage and last ones to smack. who is fix? who is exuro whatever and mc ? thought they were bob anywways?and xelas u will be last ones stanbding on bobs side. because ur last on our list to even notice.
Black Atom Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:01:00 - [73] Edited by: Black Atom on 13/03/2007 17:58:45 Edited by: Black Atom on 13/03/2007 17:57:39 Originally by: Metacannibal - the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) this behaviour can largely be attributed to their inherent character, being space renters and not space takers, if they had any ability to take or hold space, they would not go rent it. What *****s me up about this statement is how you took VNG, you basically out spammed BoB POS's. Same with AZN, have you even put a POS into reinforced yet? When people are shooting at yours you guys are nowhere to be found. Doesn't bode well for your ability to hold space does it? And you should check transaction logs on all those items you're buying, you might see some framilar ex-ascn names.
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:04:00 - [74] I love how Koroshiya (ASCN) is posting about the ability to hold space. Lol. GF last night in AZN btw Meta, sorry we ruined your station camping :) See you soon! -Wylker
Kelron Neesna Diligent Souls	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:05:00 - [75] Edited by: Kelron Neesna on 13/03/2007 18:06:12 Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. Their last action was a few days ago, when they sieged 2 pos's, only to find 3 days stront in each, and as the medium pos dropped into re-enforced, they all ran and hid to avoid a fight; eg, D2 arn't deploying capitals without superior numbers in every way shape and form by a 2:1 ratio. If this ratio isn't met, they log off. I can't say I'm impressed. Proxay, i am not sure whether you read my open letter or not. But this sort of thing is exactly what i was referring to. "Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all" Right.. because our members form a gang once every week max and even then we have 4-5 and rest external. Posting things like that perpetuates the problem. The enemy would have a hard time killing our pvp forces as we barely have any. your a senior member of alliance, please do something about it before we all just leave. It's not Xelas' fault that you can't ask for a roaming gang to join in their intelligence channels. I've been snooping on them for a couple weeks, and it seems there's always at least 2 gangs roaming through fountain at all times. There's even been Frig gank squads running up as far as Venal. You just need to be vocal and ask to be included. (and can someone translate Opium's post so that it's actually legible, please?)
Faceless Pokemon United Earth Directorate	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:19:00 - [76] Originally by: Kelron Neesna It's not Xelas' fault that you can't ask for a roaming gang to join in their intelligence channels. I've been snooping on them for a couple weeks, and it seems there's always at least 2 gangs roaming through fountain at all times. There's even been Frig gank squads running up as far as Venal. You just need to be vocal and ask to be included. (and can someone translate Opium's post so that it's actually legible, please?) snooping on them in inteligence channels and actually being in the alliance are two different things. These small gangs you refer to are normally made up of the same 5-6 people who do all the effort and pvp. Our alliance has normal active size of around 70-80 online, 5-6 isnt acceptable. I am not trying to sound negative but it is the reality of the situation. Hopefully reading through all this will help us get our act together.
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:30:00 - [77] Originally by: Wylker I love how Koroshiya (ASCN) is posting about the ability to hold space. Lol. GF last night in AZN btw Meta, sorry we ruined your station camping :) See you soon! ASCN is dead! DEAD!!! Just because some of us are ex-ASCN doesn't mean we are dead people (aka a dead alliance). Otherwise you have to call the MC "ASCN" too because if I remember correctly Waagaa, Spacebar and a few others are ex-ASCN too. And, OMFG I can't believe it, even BoB has ex-ASCN on board...hi Crohnx _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
Metacannibal Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:39:00 - [78] Edited by: Metacannibal on 13/03/2007 18:36:44 Originally by: Black Atom ... words ... Originally by: Wylker ... words... my posting was in no way related to what me or my corp are doing in feythabolis. the whole "white flag corp" posting is not even an attack on the corps, its simply that i do think it would be an illusion for the entities present that they are themselves able to withstand an assault of those that took LV down, assuming they attack those spacepets in feyth/eso/paragon. same would most certainly go for us here and our north feyth attack, if bob wasnt busy somewhere else, with their "more capital ships than we have characters in corp -9", we would be in deep trouble in vngj/azn regarding last night in azn, well, i was kind of chasing an itty5 in a nearby system with my alt, sometimes youre lucky, sometimes youre dont and dont see local spiking ;) good that all but one laser blew up, crap loot for you guys! edit: it is kind of encouraging to read the bitter taste to some of the alts postings here, it makes me wonder how the forums would be if some certain alliance leader didnt put his forumsquad on the short leash
Puncher hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:55:00 - [79] I predict: PAIN hirr Morsus Mihi
crice Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.13 19:00:00 - [80] If you really want to be somebody.... Posting here with one sided spew like this confirms you are a nobody. Keep trying... crice
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 19:16:00 - [81] Well this thread has drifted away from the OP...and thats a good thing, even from my biased view...I found it somewhat...er ..biased. To the bickering in thread: We all accuse each other of docking when outnumbered or running from a bigger gang, well tbh, its not a bad idea I do laugh when people say you had balls to jump in and fight, when in reality the scout totally messed up and counted command ships as cruisers and forgot to add BS to his overview. Half the time we camp people in station, they are not even there...they probably watching a movie, or out having a beer somewhere...while we orbit bubbles feeling uber When I log in..I log in to fight, personaly I love this war Fights everywhere, what more could you ask for. And yes Proxay, you did put the eagle in structure, he was on fire when he warped out. As for your cheap ships, yeah they were T1 frig cruisers (2 flycatcher died btw ) but they were very nicely fitted. Every tin I opened had those lovely T2 minie guns T2 gyrostabs etc yummy. Better fitted than most frig swarms, so respect to your pilots. Anyway..long post later...I hope our enemies are enjoying the combat as much as us o7
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.03.13 20:56:00 - [82] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Well this thread has drifted away from the OP...and thats a good thing, even from my biased view...I found it somewhat...er ..biased. To the bickering in thread: We all accuse each other of docking when outnumbered or running from a bigger gang, well tbh, its not a bad idea I do laugh when people say you had balls to jump in and fight, when in reality the scout totally messed up and counted command ships as cruisers and forgot to add BS to his overview. Half the time we camp people in station, they are not even there...they probably watching a movie, or out having a beer somewhere...while we orbit bubbles feeling uber When I log in..I log in to fight, personaly I love this war Fights everywhere, what more could you ask for. And yes Proxay, you did put the eagle in structure, he was on fire when he warped out. As for your cheap ships, yeah they were T1 frig cruisers (2 flycatcher died btw ) but they were very nicely fitted. Every tin I opened had those lovely T2 minie guns T2 gyrostabs etc yummy. Better fitted than most frig swarms, so respect to your pilots. Anyway..long post later...I hope our enemies are enjoying the combat as much as us o7 I could be misunderstanding this but if your saying the scout and the loss of the flycatchers and almost killed eagle is the same battle you are mistaken bad. We knew what you had on the other side 100%. We were in your space for 4hrs, killing some, running from others (yes I admit I am not afraid to run when outgunned and stuff). We found your camp, i decided screw it, why not. Jumped in popped your drake a few smaller ships, we lost a lot more, including my flycatcher. I had fun, was worth it and would do it again 5 times. And this is just 1 of 4 gangs I have lead into your space. Total damage (which tbh really dont effect d2) was over 8bil isk this weekend we caused with t2 frigs. We killed one Nano Phoon worth well over 1bil isk, killed 1 hulk, and then multiple other ships. Does this mean we are uber, heck no. But we had FUN. AXE - Where the men work hard and the girls want to play.
Kelron Neesna Diligent Souls	Posted - 2007.03.13 21:17:00 - [83] Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: Kelron Neesna It's not Xelas' fault that you can't ask for a roaming gang to join in their intelligence channels. I've been snooping on them for a couple weeks, and it seems there's always at least 2 gangs roaming through fountain at all times. There's even been Frig gank squads running up as far as Venal. You just need to be vocal and ask to be included. (and can someone translate Opium's post so that it's actually legible, please?) snooping on them in inteligence channels and actually being in the alliance are two different things. These small gangs you refer to are normally made up of the same 5-6 people who do all the effort and pvp. Our alliance has normal active size of around 70-80 online, 5-6 isnt acceptable. I am not trying to sound negative but it is the reality of the situation. Hopefully reading through all this will help us get our act together. If you don't like it, leave. There's nothing keeping you in your perceived situation. Perhaps if you paid more attention, you'd know that there are more than 5 Xelas in those groups. You really need to stop posting on the Eve-O forums about this stuff before you find yourself out of your Corporation for posting this stuff here. If you don't know the alliance forums, I'm sure someone in your alliance channel can point you in the right direction.
Akov Stohs Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 21:30:00 - [84] Edited by: Akov Stohs on 13/03/2007 21:27:51 Nvm - staying out of this
Ewa Quillam Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.03.13 21:54:00 - [85] Originally by: Drag Queen ... My view on the facts as I know them is - BoB did amazingly well against 30 capitals (which included a Mothership and a Titan) don;t forget they took out 2 of those 30 capitals for a net loss of 7 capitals. Pretty impressive tbh. I have to burst your little bubble. They've lost 9 faction (some say officer) fitted dreads and destroyed 2 ordinaryly fitted ones. Some might even estimate their loss at 45 bil, but lets turn it down to 30 bil, making like 3.3 bil per dread . RA/-A- lost 2 dreads worth lets say 2.5 bil each. So, the efficiency is 5/30 = 16,6%, pretty low. So, yeah, war is about managing your ressources right, doing a lot of damage for minimal losses and that's what BoB does too and they usually chest beat themselves with that (hence their toll of BS destroyed and lost on their KB), but BoB screwed this time, square and fare, no need to turn it any other way around. They got trapped and had no choice than to take with them as many as they could.
Founder Meo Gallente Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.13 22:13:00 - [86] Originally by: Metacannibal- the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) this behaviour can largely be attributed to their inherent character, being space renters and not space takers, if they had any ability to take or hold space, they would not go rent it. [/quote I take offence to that as a Bob pet we've already takin a station so nah :P and i havnt seen nor heard any moves to pull out or liquidating assets where in for the long haul just like ragoon and bob
Faceless Pokemon United Earth Directorate	Posted - 2007.03.14 00:12:00 - [87] Originally by: Kelron Neesna If you don't like it, leave. There's nothing keeping you in your perceived situation. Perhaps if you paid more attention, you'd know that there are more than 5 Xelas in those groups. You really need to stop posting on the Eve-O forums about this stuff before you find yourself out of your Corporation for posting this stuff here. If you don't know the alliance forums, I'm sure someone in your alliance channel can point you in the right direction. 4-5 may have been a slight underexageration, but it isnt far from the truth. It is a small handful out of 700+ pilots who do all the work. And the reason i do not leave is because my friends are in this alliance and i like the area, i post these things so they will do something about it. Posting what i have to say on the internal forums would either get my banned or make bad blood towards my corp by the rest of the alliance and they still would not listen as others have done this already. A large amount of my fellow alliance members who have seen my post agree with it. Also, to those that laughed at the idea of Xelas having 2 dreads.. show me an example of a time when we have fielded any in a significant number. In reality it is actually less than this because the alliance simply does not field them anymore, only carriers. The alliance has quite a few dread pilots but very few with actual dreadnaught ships to use and these are individual owned. There is no alliance capital fleet and barely any system at all for organising those who do have them.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.14 00:35:00 - [88] Originally by: DeathGrip Does this mean we are uber, heck no. But we had FUN. That is the whole point Do you think that when local jumped by 40 and we are suddenly stuck in a dictor bubble our hearts did not race Was great, but I had an even sweeter battle in Jan with a few good pilots today, that really made me sweat Was best little gang fight this year I have been in, and the little gank engagements that we have, may not change the outcome of the war, but my god it's fun And Death, we just played with your carrier in PNQ, I know you said a few things in local, but no-one in our gang responded ( someone else said a couple of really smacky things..but he logged when fighting started so he dont count ). This is fun, and I bet you had a little rush yourself docking that thing when it was falling apart Leave the smack to the smacktards. See you soon mate
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.03.14 01:03:00 - [89] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: DeathGrip Does this mean we are uber, heck no. But we had FUN. That is the whole point Do you think that when local jumped by 40 and we are suddenly stuck in a dictor bubble our hearts did not race Was great, but I had an even sweeter battle in Jan with a few good pilots today, that really made me sweat Was best little gang fight this year I have been in, and the little gank engagements that we have, may not change the outcome of the war, but my god it's fun And Death, we just played with your carrier in PNQ, I know you said a few things in local, but no-one in our gang responded ( someone else said a couple of really smacky things..but he logged when fighting started so he dont count ). This is fun, and I bet you had a little rush yourself docking that thing when it was falling apart Leave the smack to the smacktards. See you soon mate You said it mate. And yep everytime i undock my heart rush's waiting for the dreads, waiting to see what kinda damage i can tank, waiting for that one bump that knocks me to far ( a few were close ). AXE - Where the men work hard and the girls want to play.
Helen STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 01:05:00 - [90] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. Quite a feat to get 15 kills a day off Xelas when they love to logoff/dock/play hide the sausage in a pos.

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