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Metacannibal Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:30:00 - [1] - youwhat will, due to d2 commitment and various merc contracts, go downhill fast, relocate to safe space and restrict themselves to raiding the soft rear of the d2 frontline - smash/rk will claim victory over ra by putting 2 towers somewhere into reinforced when ra wasnt home - bob/mc will stop using capitalships alone and will be forced to focus deployment again, due to their "slap in the face" experiences (bob in c3, mc: waagaa in the north where his aeon got shot to 52% armor, also the 2 carrierlosses, all just because of they were used***y) - the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) this behaviour can largely be attributed to their inherent character, being space renters and not space takers, if they had any ability to take or hold space, they would not go rent it. - as the combat approaches bob homespace, bob pilots are having less exhausting traveling to do, also, fuel jumping costs for the bob capitalfleets is going down alot, outweighting the loss of rental from slaves by far - various corps and alliances will bail from the war, especially those who thought fighting bob would work without having losses and sacrifice on your part - d2 in the north will destroy xelas since bob will be busy down south trying to get capitalshipkills versus RA/AAA/OHGOD, since that certainly ranks highest on the "who can force us to get insurance payouts" list. -mc, being deployed versus d2 in fountain will lose 1-2 motherships due to***y behaviour on euro tz, forums go "told ya" then, scenario a: every anti-bob alliance/corp has planned well, they should be able to deploy around bobspace for 1 year. once bob is forced to fight from npc stations AND lose more than 50 capitals per month for a prolonged time, first light at the tunnel can be seen. scenario b: highly naive corpdirectors and fleetcommaders assumed it would be an easy ride, not saving up for months of war, the war is over after some genius made some big mistake in a capital ship deployment, bob spy puts dictor bubble over coalition fleet, bob kill 60 dreads/capitals, laugh, win, collect rent from "new" lv
Fall Angelus Caldari Dignity Lost	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:33:00 - [2] heavily anti BOB post.
Tudor Minmatar Revolt	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:34:00 - [3] Please be nice - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Blue Stratos Amarr BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:38:00 - [4] Originally by: Metacannibal - youwhat will, due to d2 commitment and various merc contracts, go downhill fast, relocate to safe space and restrict themselves to raiding the soft rear of the d2 frontline - smash/rk will claim victory over ra by putting 2 towers somewhere into reinforced when ra wasnt home - bob/mc will stop using capitalships alone and will be forced to focus deployment again, due to their "slap in the face" experiences (bob in c3, mc: waagaa in the north where his aeon got shot to 52% armor, also the 2 carrierlosses, all just because of they were used***y) - the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) this behaviour can largely be attributed to their inherent character, being space renters and not space takers, if they had any ability to take or hold space, they would not go rent it. - as the combat approaches bob homespace, bob pilots are having less exhausting traveling to do, also, fuel jumping costs for the bob capitalfleets is going down alot, outweighting the loss of rental from slaves by far - various corps and alliances will bail from the war, especially those who thought fighting bob would work without having losses and sacrifice on your part - d2 in the north will destroy xelas since bob will be busy down south trying to get capitalshipkills versus RA/AAA/OHGOD, since that certainly ranks highest on the "who can force us to get insurance payouts" list. -mc, being deployed versus d2 in fountain will lose 1-2 motherships due to***y behaviour on euro tz, forums go "told ya" then, scenario a: every anti-bob alliance/corp has planned well, they should be able to deploy around bobspace for 1 year. once bob is forced to fight from npc stations AND lose more than 50 capitals per month for a prolonged time, first light at the tunnel can be seen. scenario b: highly naive corpdirectors and fleetcommaders assumed it would be an easy ride, not saving up for months of war, the war is over after some genius made some big mistake in a capital ship deployment, bob spy puts dictor bubble over coalition fleet, bob kill 60 dreads/capitals, laugh, win, collect rent from "new" lv You - No clue Just because u took a station they dont much care about doesnt make your corp/alliance major players
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:38:00 - [5] Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. Their last action was a few days ago, when they sieged 2 pos's, only to find 3 days stront in each, and as the medium pos dropped into re-enforced, they all ran and hid to avoid a fight; eg, D2 arn't deploying capitals without superior numbers in every way shape and form by a 2:1 ratio. If this ratio isn't met, they log off. I can't say I'm impressed. God I hope this is under 24kb
DK Metz Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:40:00 - [6] omfg a fun post. ________________________________ Radio for YOU Elder eve player. My mom met a jove!
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:51:00 - [7] Originally by: Blue Stratos Originally by: Metacannibal possible outcome of the war You - No clue Just because u took a station they dont much care about doesnt make your corp/alliance major players He never said anything about being major players in his post, and in comparison to a lot of other posts today, he had the spine to post with his main. Something which has become kinda rare these days. He's also giving 2 different scenarios where either BoB or the ebil coalition wins. NO post in this section is unbiased...like, you won't find a post from me supporting BoB But nothing should stop people who participate (!!!) in the war, aka not lame alts, to talk about what might or might not happen. At least he's not posting with a 1-man corp alt with a BoB signature _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
Backdoor Bandit Minmatar Gay Rights League	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:55:00 - [8] I predict a riot. Also, My TRIUMPHANT RETURN to Eve. Oh, and flames. I predict flames. That one's always a keeper. ----------- Post with your main or STFU!
NOObbody Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:56:00 - [9] Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 eg, D2 arn't deploying capitals without superior numbers in every way shape and form by a 2:1 ratio. . Sounds smart. --- I was sworn to absolute secrecy!
Khorian Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:59:00 - [10] Comedy Gold thread.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
Omatje Minmatar Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:06:00 - [12] Edited by: Omatje on 13/03/2007 12:05:15 Quote: - the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) If you are referring to the Feyth market situation: Those are still leftovers from ASCN corps mostly (250 dictors for sale in J0- anyone?) got no cool sig
Masochistic Cannibal Amarr Ghosts Of Genesis	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:07:00 - [13] Originally by: Backdoor Bandit . Oh, and flames. I predict flames. That one's always a keeper. You give me flames in my trousers big boy blushes Cannibal I eat babies ! [Hauling services available~ Contact ingame]
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Science Alt	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:14:00 - [15] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Rutoo Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Metacannibal - smash/rk will claim victory over ra by putting 2 towers somewhere into reinforced when ra wasnt home we already got one done. :P _________________________________________________________ My Second EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
Topaz Skydiver Minmatar Narrative Freshfood	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:18:00 - [17] Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 13/03/2007 12:19:27 Originally by: Metacannibal then, scenario a: every anti-bob alliance/corp has planned well, they should be able to deploy around bobspace for 1 year. once bob is forced to fight from npc stations AND lose more than 50 capitals per month for a prolonged time, first light at the tunnel can be seen. Sound rediculous. Actually if I was pushed back to npc space and wanted to go on, I'd surely not take the capitals out week after week to try to conquer the same systems back again with bruteforce that I have already lost before and keep on losing capitals as long as the full coalition is at the door step. I'd attack the coalition, when and where they don't expect it and try to keep losses low. I'd try to break the morale of the coalition by not giving them any new successes and boring their blobs to death, until some leave and then strike again.
Rui Nosferatu FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:18:00 - [18] Edited by: Rui Nosferatu on 13/03/2007 12:19:24 My general predictions are that the south will continue its intense bloody fighting that has raged for quite a while. Everyone will loose lots of ships in lean mean pvp. The attrition rate of capital ships will be hideous. Logistics, industrial capacity and fat wallets will keep some alliances going to pursue strategic goals. And the will to get up again and carry on fighting after loosing systems. And in the north a farmer's prize pig will give birth to a dozen fine piglets that will have names like Sam, Jezebel and Miningwillwinwars.
Pesadel0 Vagabundos THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:20:00 - [19] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. It isn't? I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. well "nothing" is a step up from "bugger all" and I'm sure those npc ratters that keep getting caught dont see it as nothing. Same as when it happens to our guys, it has an effect Ganks squads have their purpose, its not all about fleet action. CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:28:00 - [21] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Lilan Kahn Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. well "nothing" is a step up from "bugger all" and I'm sure those npc ratters that keep getting caught dont see it as nothing. Same as when it happens to our guys, it has an effect Ganks squads have their purpose, its not all about fleet action. tbh xelas is sooo used to get ganked by verius peopel i doubt they give a flying ** abut 15 ships lost a day. Originally by:** Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Vasili Z Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:37:00 - [22] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. 15 ships a day Xelas, look out. ------- Someone from MC peer-pressured me to smoke pot, now I'm cool. Everything I say represents my corporation and their views.
Metacannibal Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:37:00 - [23] Originally by: Topaz Skydiver Sound rediculous. Actually if I was pushed back to npc space and wanted to go on, I'd surely not take the capitals out week after week to try to conquer the same systems back again with bruteforce that I have already lost before and keep on losing capitals as long as the full coalition is at the door step. I'd attack the coalition, when and where they don't expect it and try to keep losses low. I'd try to break the morale of the coalition by not giving them any new successes and boring their blobs to death, until some leave and then strike again. the number of capitalosses was just a wild number thrown around to emphasize that it will be a long walk to walk before bob corp/alliance is going to break a sweat iskwise over losses. a loooooong walk. your scenario is actually an alternation of the bob loss outcome. if bob is no longer the cool top dog in the game, a decent number of their "skilled pvp footsoldier" troops will consider this as a loss in ther e-peen contest. bob will either win or die, if bob as alliance has to resort to guerilla warfare it has sealed its own fate, they can only win in the offensive, even if that could accelerate their demise.
Cpt Psycho The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:42:00 - [24] Originally by: Pesadel0 Originally by: Lilan Kahn Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. It isn't? It's pretty much bugger all for an entire region in a day. And don't forget, Xelas has some strong friends fighting along side them now - (us of course) . Our roving gang yesterday destroyed more than 15 ships I would say in the 3 hours it was going around. I would suggest you guys greatly strengthen your gatecamps up or else they are just going to keep getting demolished by us everyday. Like I said in another thread, if you guys don't step it up a notch we may have to move our base of operations to the outer ring so we don't have to go 25+ jumps north of Fountain before we find any hostiles numbering more than 5-8. Heh. And this is my personal opinion of course, I'm not speaking for the alliance.
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Backdoor Bandit Also, My TRIUMPHANT RETURN to Eve. Your skills need some polishing, how could you miss this beauty - Originally by: Metacannibal - youwhat will....restrict themselves to raiding the soft rear
pshepherd Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:52:00 - [26] Originally by: Metacannibal the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) 1. We don't pay rent 2. No point in liquidating, we have plenty of capitals 3. We've just taken another station, so we're not planning on going anywhere
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:02:00 - [27] Originally by: Cpt Psycho [Like I said in another thread, if you guys don't step it up a notch we may have to move our base of operations to the outer ring so we don't have to go 25+ jumps north of Fountain before we find any hostiles numbering more than 5-8. Heh. And this is my personal opinion of course, I'm not speaking for the alliance. I said to Proxay " good fight", why do these threads so quickly turn into flame fests. Lets take this in game Cpt Psycho, you only have one D2 kill, I'm sure you would like to get some more, rather than talk about it. CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
Karunel Princeps Corp YouWhat	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:02:00 - [28] That was a well thought-out attemp at impartial reporting if I ever saw it. Wait. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:07:00 - [29] Well your thread title says it all this was a poor 'attempt'
maarud Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:10:00 - [30] I everytime someone thinks 9 dreads is alot to loose for bob and that it's now the end of them. Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member
Darth Sith Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:11:00 - [31] Originally by: Cpt Psycho I would suggest you guys greatly strengthen your gatecamps up or else they are just going to keep getting demolished by us everyday. Like I said in another thread, if you guys don't step it up a notch we may have to move our base of operations to the outer ring so we don't have to go 25+ jumps north of Fountain before we find any hostiles numbering more than 5-8. Heh. Oh really .. Then I guess that 7 kill for 0 loss spanking we layed on fatal in c-n yesterday was a figment of our imagination .. or maybe it was deja vu of the 17 kill for 3 loss we experienced in G95 the day before? BTW .. any clue on how many fighters we popped that day? I gave up counting on the fraps after a dozen ..
Cpt Psycho The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:20:00 - [32] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar I said to Proxay " good fight", why do these threads so quickly turn into flame fests. Lets take this in game Cpt Psycho, you only have one D2 kill, I'm sure you would like to get some more, rather than talk about it. I'm not flaming, I'm trying to, ermm, get you guys motivated so that I can get some more kills in game or atleast good fights . No hard feelings. Out of all the other hostile alliances to us in and around Fountain you guys are definately the most willing to fight. I must give you props for that. When we get reports of a hostile gang around we always hope it is D2. Most others run even if they have a slight advantage. coughSpartacough (<-- Okay now that was borderline flaming ) And to the OP, that was a horrible write up.
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:23:00 - [33] i predict, that some ships will blow up in the 1st week.. more the second.. with the trend continuing through to the 4th week.. on the forum front.. i predict more "alternative views" about both sides.. lots of pointless threads.. with a fair amount of rattles and tinfoil hats.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
Karmic Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:33:00 - [34] Personally the OP wasnt worth the couple of brain cells I lost reading it. Bring it in game like RA/AAA/Goon/Hydra/Pure/D2 do and then just maybe you could make a comment on the subjects of why and how. - - - - - - - - -
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:53:00 - [35] My prediciton - I will lose my carrier within next 2 weeks due to not caring and jumping it on and fighting 40-90 hostiles at a time. BTW - Freelancer / D2 / Sparta / Friends - Thanks for the great fights past 2 or 3 weeks. Between the 30-50 man frig / bc squads vs my carrier, to the past 4 days of roaming in the North, I cant recall a time with so many kills / deaths and fun. I think a lot of you take this game way to serious. Its fun, have fun, kill stuff, lose stuff, kill more stuff. AXE - Where the men work hard and the girls want to play.
probablecause Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:00:00 - [36] Originally by: thoth foc i predict, that some ships will blow up in the 1st week.. more the second.. with the trend continuing through to the 4th week.. on the forum front.. i predict more "alternative views" about both sides.. lots of pointless threads.. with a fair amount of rattles and tinfoil hats.. I believe you are correct, sir! Maybe I'm just naive, but I'm getting pretty tired of being able to tell what someone will say before reading their post because of the alliance ticker. And the OP here, I think he's right about Outcome A or B, it'll go down like one of those two scenarios. If you flame me for being anti Band of people flying ships named [DEVS], because one of those outcomes is they lose, then look at the other option, which is they win. __________________ "Buttons are not toys"
Jotan Veer Wings of Turul Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:08:00 - [37] I predict I will run out of ammo and probes in the upcoming week(s) and will be forced to make an 80 jump roundtrip to restock..... Someone give me docking rights somewhere in the old ASCN area puh please.
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:15:00 - [38] Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 14:18:10 Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 14:16:40 Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 14:12:00 Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. Cheap gangs ftw; we took af's/intys i took a t1 fitted stabber, we killed 5 bs, 1 hulk, 1 bc and a ton of other things... We lost; 1 interdictor, my stabber and about 4-5 other ships...was fun, i had an eagle down to 5% structure as the order was given to withdraw. ( i went pop ). Good fun. edit: btw norman doesn't represent 15 different people, he is always there, and always has been. edit2: i stand by the bugger all comment. It is, really. edit3: get facts right. God I hope this is under 24kb
Mr Mozzie Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:19:00 - [39] I predict more contentless threads on coad.
Shamis Orzoz Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:22:00 - [40] My prediction: Snigg mining in delve due to complete boredom from the sudden lack of targets.
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:22:00 - [41] Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 13/03/2007 14:20:31 Originally by: Cpt Psycho It's pretty much bugger all for an entire region in a day. And don't forget, Xelas has some strong friends fighting along side them now - (us of course) . Mate can u try not to look like egotistical wearing our alliance tag? Thx. Fountain will be interesting if D2 come back. Your nano fleets are ineffective at causing any real damage though and are no doubt a bit of fun on your behalf, as are our roaming ops.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:22:00 - [42] Originally by: maarud I everytime someone thinks 9 dreads is alot to loose for bob and that it's now the end of them. You don't get it right? Its not about being a big loss , iys about BOB loosign a considerable capital battle while inflicting minimal damage to teh other side. That goea nto well with the" we a re the superior elite player" posture they try to impose. That is why people take this as a serious victory. ( dreads are not a heavy asset hit on any of the superpowers. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:36:00 - [43] Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 13/03/2007 14:36:51 Originally by: Metacannibal - ...mc will stop using capitalships alone and will be forced to focus deployment again, due to their "slap in the face" experiences (... waagaa in the north where his aeon got shot to 52% armor, also the 2 carrierlosses, all just because of they were used***y) ... -mc, being deployed versus d2 in fountain will lose 1-2 motherships due to***y behaviour on euro tz, forums go "told ya" lol They are virtual toys in a pretend spacepaceship video game .. we are playing with them and having a lot of laughs and fun. If I worried about the future every time I got a ship to 52% armor I'd never undock! Waagaa was only so stressed because he'd have to ask Seleene for the isk to buy the minerals to replace it! Its a game, and this war is the best thing that's happened to EVE since I've been playing. I predict we're all going to be depressed when it ends and refer back to it nostalgically for as long as the servers are up. Myn
Drag Queen Caldari The Merchant Marines Miners With Attitude	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:43:00 - [44] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: maarud I everytime someone thinks 9 dreads is alot to loose for bob and that it's now the end of them. You don't get it right? Its not about being a big loss , iys about BOB loosign a considerable capital battle while inflicting minimal damage to teh other side. That goea nto well with the" we a re the superior elite player" posture they try to impose. That is why people take this as a serious victory. ( dreads are not a heavy asset hit on any of the superpowers. To be honest the most interesting part of BoB losing 9 capital ships was the way it happened. Lets consider how BoB usually kill capital fleets and how this happened (my comments are based on what I read on killboards noton first hand knowledge): ++ When BoB attack a capital fleet they usually do it with a large fleet consisting mainly of Battleships (rarely do they take capitals into these battles unless there is a Titan involved) ++ The event yesterday was 9 BoB capitals against around 30 RA/AAA/Goon Capitals (based on other reports). My view on the facts as I know them is - BoB did amazingly well against 30 capitals (which included a Mothership and a Titan) don;t forget they took out 2 of those 30 capitals for a net loss of 7 capitals. Pretty impressive tbh.
Daald Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:43:00 - [45] Hey hey. You KNOW that Waagaa is a nooblar Ever since he left us our mining output has been suffering We know why you recruited him. It had to do a lot with the fact that he has Astrogeology 5. -----------------------------
EVIL SYNNs Minmatar Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:54:00 - [46] The only thing for sure - more pew pew! "War Its Fantastic" - and in Fountain, Cloud Ring and slightly further a field the war is being fought with very very little smack and alot of respect. To those who say people only fight in 2:1 ratio's I just wish we had the 2 - until then... Its still a fight! Game is still on, and I think only pawns have been lost so far (no disrespect to anyone), and even if I did have ISK left, I wouldn't bet on who the winner will be! But I'll bet I'll still be fighting come 2008, then I JUST HAVE TO RAT!!!! You may be a King or little street sweeper, but sooner or later, you'll dance with the Rapier, yeah
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 14:55:00 - [47] Originally by: Daald Hey hey. You KNOW that Waagaa is a nooblar Ever since he left us our mining output has been suffering We know why you recruited him. It had to do a lot with the fact that he has Astrogeology 5. You don't know the half of it, mate. He trained mining drones V so he could launch 25 T2 mining drones to increase the output of the Aeon when tanking with it on mining ops. If one could put rigs on a mothership, guess which one he'd go for! Myn
Asero Lilium Venture Initiative	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:04:00 - [48] Edited by: Asero on 13/03/2007 15:03:13 Alright. Here are.... "Realistic" predictions. - North West Front. D2 will hammer on YouWhat for another several weeks to take XZH. Unreinforced from fountain forces, YouWhat will eventually be beaten back, but without a force to supplement them. (live in their stations) Holding their space will be difficult. This process will take 2-3 weeks at best, longer depending on how much of the BOB fountain forces move up to assist YouWhat. - North Front. Venal, Branch, Tribute, Deklien, etc. lots of evil rats will die, and the belts will be emptied. - North East Front. Mc is attacking (Pure?) and will probably put enough pressure on them to force PURE out of the Querious coalition to defend their territory. MC without assistance will be unable to defeat Pure on their territory. The Capital stuff listed before seemed like smack so i'll ignore it. - East Front. SmaskKill will defend their territory versus the Reds with success for several weeks. It will be a general stalemate situation. Unless Goons or TCF gets involved no progress will be made. Since Goons have shown an interesting amount of honor in the whole dispute thus far i doubt they will. - East/South Front. Last LV station will fall within a week. LV will hemmorage a few more corps, and then regroup in NPC and empire space. Goons and TCF will consolidate their territorial gains and build their wallets for a few weeks before becomeing heavily involved in the Southern Front. Curse will likely loose another corp or two before it hardens up and becomes a smaller yet more dedicated alliance. - South Front. BOB will likely loose another station or two. There are two many x-ascn stations and x-ascn alliances down there for BOB to hold them all effectively. especially considering the lax sov holding measures that have been taken thus far. This will likely emerge as the pre-eminant battlefield of the war. BOB will likely not loose anything in Paragon Soul or the southern feyth were the (corm?) alliance still holds strong, but northern feyth is anyones guess. South Western Front - The northern coalition and pandemic legion will continue to raid and plunder BOB's sovereign space, hurting them to the maximum degree that raids can. If the northern coalition goes into sov attack against FIX, BOB or MC will likely be rerouted to assist. FIX, will continue to hold out well as long as the fighting stay out of the capital ground. West. Fountain, Delve and Period Basis are all being raided but will likely see no conflicts.
Zrevak Ashek Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:09:00 - [49] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: maarud I everytime someone thinks 9 dreads is alot to loose for bob and that it's now the end of them. You don't get it right? Its not about being a big loss , its about BOB loosing a considerable capital battle while inflicting minimal damage to teh other side. That goes into well with the" we are the superior elite player" posture they try to impose. That is why people take this as a serious victory. ( dreads are not a heavy asset hit on any of the superpowers. QFT! Maarud obviously is'nt too bright and seem to totally fail to see the consequnses of loosing a capital ship battle in this way. Now BOB knows their capitals can and most likely will be killed whenever they try to siege systems in regions close to AAA and RA.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:12:00 - [50] With a mining drone link in gang and 25 harvies, it outmines, outtanks and outhauls a Hulk! What more can a man wish for? I don't even want to know how much it outmines a Hulk by if it's got 3 mining drone rigs, oh yummie! - -
Daald Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:16:00 - [51] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr With a mining drone link in gang and 25 harvies, it outmines, outtanks and outhauls a Hulk! What more can a man wish for? I don't even want to know how much it outmines a Hulk by if it's got 3 mining drone rigs, oh yummie! Hey, with the latest battle report I was actually surprised that you had fighters out. I thought for sure that you were account sharing with someone more PvP oriented. -----------------------------
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:22:00 - [52] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr With a mining drone link in gang and 25 harvies, it outmines, outtanks and outhauls a Hulk! What more can a man wish for? I don't even want to know how much it outmines a Hulk by if it's got 3 mining drone rigs, oh yummie! Who needs ORE capitals eh?!
Shinjuro Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:24:00 - [53] This thread delivers. Nice unbiased post. But I agree with a lot of it. If MC lose 2 moms.. I will just.. did you know that eve was spelled with 2 e's?
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:28:00 - [54] It would be interesting to see if the "Anything to rat and mine in peace" line of thinking holds true at the end of the day.
Julien Derida Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:34:00 - [55] The OP just *****s me up. If you seriously think we've ever come close to losing a mom, let alone two - then you just don't understand how moms work. ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
Daald Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:42:00 - [56] Originally by: Julien Derida If you seriously think we've ever come close to losing a mom You put Waagaa in one right? Point proven -----------------------------
Julien Derida Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:43:00 - [57] Originally by: Daald Originally by: Julien Derida If you seriously think we've ever come close to losing a mom You put Waagaa in one right? Point proven We put Waagaa in one because every other ship is too easy to lose ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
Dragerest Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 15:58:00 - [58] this thread needs more cake
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 16:12:00 - [59] Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr With a mining drone link in gang and 25 harvies, it outmines, outtanks and outhauls a Hulk! What more can a man wish for? I don't even want to know how much it outmines a Hulk by if it's got 3 mining drone rigs, oh yummie! One day my friend you're gonna jump into a HUGE hostile fleet...and realize that you have nothing but harvies on board _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 16:37:00 - [60] Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Their last action was a few days ago, when they sieged 2 pos's, only to find 3 days stront in each, and as the medium pos dropped into re-enforced, they all ran and hid to avoid a fight; Quote: And thats what you going to get. You will find towers you put up pounded into reinforced and then destroyed systematically. By the time you form up to defend them we will be gone. We will hit you, then leave. Over and over and over again. Your industrial POS's will be destroyed, your battle POS's will be destroyed. We will destroy your miners, your haulers, your NPC'ing ships and your combat ships. All the while watching you run around like a chicken with its head cut off. Trying to form up some sort of defense before we melt away. Get used to it.
PC5 ClanKillers	Posted - 2007.03.13 16:49:00 - [61] Edited by: PC5 on 13/03/2007 16:55:38 Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. Their last action was a few days ago, when they sieged 2 pos's, only to find 3 days stront in each, and as the medium pos dropped into re-enforced, they all ran and hid to avoid a fight; eg, D2 arn't deploying capitals without superior numbers in every way shape and form by a 2:1 ratio. If this ratio isn't met, they log off. I can't say I'm impressed. I was impresed when Xelas member was beaging on local not to kill him while hes NPCing durning WAR. Please tell us what your alliance did in this war?
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.13 16:55:00 - [62] Originally by: Mynas Atoch lol They are virtual toys in a pretend spacepaceship video game .. we are playing with them and having a lot of laughs and fun. If I worried about the future every time I got a ship to 52% armor I'd never undock! Yes. When we shown up in PB - i saw your virtual toys under POS shield. Or staying 2cm outside POS shield. Indeed lol As for 9 bob dreds. Without doubt, they are all already replaced. This is just little slap in the face. Want to kill POS ? Remember, that you are not that uber, and get good support fleet. Even if you are fighting KOS
LeviUK hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.13 16:59:00 - [63] I and some RZR/MM/friends enjoyed a pretty good fight with a Xelas gang in UHKL-N last week (over midnight on 9th/10th) they certainly didn't run (~30 ships on either side), the battle seemed to go on for ages and was quite exhilarating. I do believe one Xelas ship survived and we lost 3 (according to full battle report on Razor killboard) but that's not the point.. I'm fairly sure all ~60 pilots there had a lot of fun for those relatively lag-free 20mins or so. That's the kind of fight I play Eve for.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:17:00 - [64] Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 13/03/2007 17:15:32 Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Mynas Atoch lol They are virtual toys in a pretend spacepaceship video game .. we are playing with them and having a lot of laughs and fun. If I worried about the future every time I got a ship to 52% armor I'd never undock! Yes. When we shown up in PB - i saw your virtual toys under POS shield. Or staying 2cm outside POS shield. Indeed lol And when did you last put one of your Motherships or your Titan into the thick of a fight where it went into armour? Your virtual spaceships spend more time virtually logged out waiting for the right moment to logonski or cyno in for a gank, than actually shooting stuff. Seems such a pity to spend so much time training a character and then have it sitting at the logon screen. One thing I can certainly predict .. there is zero risk of AAA losing a mothership or titan in combat. Myn
MynChu NicAtoch Atoch Family Holdings	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:18:00 - [65] Edited by: MynChu NicAtoch on 13/03/2007 17:14:52 oops
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:20:00 - [66] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Evil Thug Originally by: Mynas Atoch lol They are virtual toys in a pretend spacepaceship video game .. we are playing with them and having a lot of laughs and fun. If I worried about the future every time I got a ship to 52% armor I'd never undock! Yes. When we shown up in PB - i saw your virtual toys under POS shield. Or staying 2cm outside POS shield. Indeed lol And when did you last put one of your Motherships or your Titan into the thick of a fight where it went into armour? Your virtual spaceships spend more time virtually logged out waiting for the right moment to logonski or cyno in for a gank, than actually shooting stuff. Seems such a pity to spend so much time training a character and then have it sitting at the logon screen. Myn And i`m still better than you, according to your killboard. So stfu, and don`t tell that you are bringing it. Against weak alliances - may be. Against people, who can kill your virtual toys - not.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:33:00 - [67] Edited by: Seleene on 13/03/2007 17:32:02 MC - STFU. ET - This will be my only comment on this: You say you wanted a straight up fight, yet you put a few of our POS into reinforced to draw us home. When the time came, you showed up to see over 30 capital ships waiting on you to hit the big red siege button with more arriving every hour. You wanted a fun fight but we had no other priorities than to simply stand our ground. We did so. No apologies that you did not get the fight you wanted or hoped for. You didn't win. You didn't lose. It was a stand-off, you eventually got bored and left. Either way, safe travels. o/ - Vid - 'Killing Mother'
Trooper B99 Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:35:00 - [68] Quote: Against weak alliances - may be. Against people, who can kill your virtual toys - not. So thats what you think of the Northern alliances such as RAWR etc eh ET, weak? Apologies for putting words in your mouth, but the MC moms have seen plenty of frontline action against decent alliace forces, while that might not include -A- alliance battleship groups, thats not to say they are weak. . Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106 PvP Tournament Semi-Finalist - 2006 FanFest
MalaMo TMF	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:37:00 - [69] Originally by: Mynas Atoch And when did you last put one of your Motherships or your Titan into the thick of a fight where it went into armour? I hear problems with computers can be pretty nasty when you put you motherships in such situation... ------------- Don't drink and drive, logon to EVE and fly.
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:39:00 - [70] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 13/03/2007 17:32:02 MC - STFU. /me suddenly finds logistics work he is supposed to be doing
Faceless Pokemon United Earth Directorate	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:43:00 - [71] Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. Their last action was a few days ago, when they sieged 2 pos's, only to find 3 days stront in each, and as the medium pos dropped into re-enforced, they all ran and hid to avoid a fight; eg, D2 arn't deploying capitals without superior numbers in every way shape and form by a 2:1 ratio. If this ratio isn't met, they log off. I can't say I'm impressed. Proxay, i am not sure whether you read my open letter or not. But this sort of thing is exactly what i was referring to. "Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all" Right.. because our members form a gang once every week max and even then we have 4-5 and rest external. Posting things like that perpetuates the problem. The enemy would have a hard time killing our pvp forces as we barely have any. your a senior member of alliance, please do something about it before we all just leave.
Opium	Posted - 2007.03.13 17:58:00 - [72] im not an alt. devs fix my profile.. shiva employ 12 months in game since beta. how did this post become about xelas?i will say one thing about the war. when we are fighting xelas we have won, you are last on the list . barley even on it,as a matter of fact u are on the last page of anything we have going on. or maybe youre first now.and alot of us are in this war to just fight,we have chosen this side because we want an evil empire to fight, bob has filled every all the requirements to fit the evil empire persona,and yes alot of us dont even want it to end we just want to fight,and to all m8;s in all norther coaltion ive fought with cheers , cheers guys its fun as can be,to fix andall of bobs pets : / welll u guys are not at all impressiveyou would all be gone except for bob, and props to bob we have been fighting eachother along time and always good fun and excellent tactics, mc to goodjob very professional and good fun... exuro whatever? u guys bleh last ones in to fight all in shiny hacs havnt even been in the fight a week, come by next weekk when ur all in crows and the next week when ur in ibis, we all brought 12 ships aday for a total of6 months then reserves will be ready,,, and props to coalition the only people who consitently jump intpo camped areas at a disadvantage and last ones to smack. who is fix? who is exuro whatever and mc ? thought they were bob anywways?and xelas u will be last ones stanbding on bobs side. because ur last on our list to even notice.
Black Atom Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:01:00 - [73] Edited by: Black Atom on 13/03/2007 17:58:45 Edited by: Black Atom on 13/03/2007 17:57:39 Originally by: Metacannibal - the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) this behaviour can largely be attributed to their inherent character, being space renters and not space takers, if they had any ability to take or hold space, they would not go rent it. What *****s me up about this statement is how you took VNG, you basically out spammed BoB POS's. Same with AZN, have you even put a POS into reinforced yet? When people are shooting at yours you guys are nowhere to be found. Doesn't bode well for your ability to hold space does it? And you should check transaction logs on all those items you're buying, you might see some framilar ex-ascn names.
Wylker Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:04:00 - [74] I love how Koroshiya (ASCN) is posting about the ability to hold space. Lol. GF last night in AZN btw Meta, sorry we ruined your station camping :) See you soon! -Wylker
Kelron Neesna Diligent Souls	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:05:00 - [75] Edited by: Kelron Neesna on 13/03/2007 18:06:12 Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. Their last action was a few days ago, when they sieged 2 pos's, only to find 3 days stront in each, and as the medium pos dropped into re-enforced, they all ran and hid to avoid a fight; eg, D2 arn't deploying capitals without superior numbers in every way shape and form by a 2:1 ratio. If this ratio isn't met, they log off. I can't say I'm impressed. Proxay, i am not sure whether you read my open letter or not. But this sort of thing is exactly what i was referring to. "Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all" Right.. because our members form a gang once every week max and even then we have 4-5 and rest external. Posting things like that perpetuates the problem. The enemy would have a hard time killing our pvp forces as we barely have any. your a senior member of alliance, please do something about it before we all just leave. It's not Xelas' fault that you can't ask for a roaming gang to join in their intelligence channels. I've been snooping on them for a couple weeks, and it seems there's always at least 2 gangs roaming through fountain at all times. There's even been Frig gank squads running up as far as Venal. You just need to be vocal and ask to be included. (and can someone translate Opium's post so that it's actually legible, please?)
Faceless Pokemon United Earth Directorate	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:19:00 - [76] Originally by: Kelron Neesna It's not Xelas' fault that you can't ask for a roaming gang to join in their intelligence channels. I've been snooping on them for a couple weeks, and it seems there's always at least 2 gangs roaming through fountain at all times. There's even been Frig gank squads running up as far as Venal. You just need to be vocal and ask to be included. (and can someone translate Opium's post so that it's actually legible, please?) snooping on them in inteligence channels and actually being in the alliance are two different things. These small gangs you refer to are normally made up of the same 5-6 people who do all the effort and pvp. Our alliance has normal active size of around 70-80 online, 5-6 isnt acceptable. I am not trying to sound negative but it is the reality of the situation. Hopefully reading through all this will help us get our act together.
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:30:00 - [77] Originally by: Wylker I love how Koroshiya (ASCN) is posting about the ability to hold space. Lol. GF last night in AZN btw Meta, sorry we ruined your station camping :) See you soon! ASCN is dead! DEAD!!! Just because some of us are ex-ASCN doesn't mean we are dead people (aka a dead alliance). Otherwise you have to call the MC "ASCN" too because if I remember correctly Waagaa, Spacebar and a few others are ex-ASCN too. And, OMFG I can't believe it, even BoB has ex-ASCN on board...hi Crohnx _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
Metacannibal Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:39:00 - [78] Edited by: Metacannibal on 13/03/2007 18:36:44 Originally by: Black Atom ... words ... Originally by: Wylker ... words... my posting was in no way related to what me or my corp are doing in feythabolis. the whole "white flag corp" posting is not even an attack on the corps, its simply that i do think it would be an illusion for the entities present that they are themselves able to withstand an assault of those that took LV down, assuming they attack those spacepets in feyth/eso/paragon. same would most certainly go for us here and our north feyth attack, if bob wasnt busy somewhere else, with their "more capital ships than we have characters in corp -9", we would be in deep trouble in vngj/azn regarding last night in azn, well, i was kind of chasing an itty5 in a nearby system with my alt, sometimes youre lucky, sometimes youre dont and dont see local spiking ;) good that all but one laser blew up, crap loot for you guys! edit: it is kind of encouraging to read the bitter taste to some of the alts postings here, it makes me wonder how the forums would be if some certain alliance leader didnt put his forumsquad on the short leash
Puncher hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.13 18:55:00 - [79] I predict: PAIN hirr Morsus Mihi
crice Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.13 19:00:00 - [80] If you really want to be somebody.... Posting here with one sided spew like this confirms you are a nobody. Keep trying... crice
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 19:16:00 - [81] Well this thread has drifted away from the OP...and thats a good thing, even from my biased view...I found it somewhat...er ..biased. To the bickering in thread: We all accuse each other of docking when outnumbered or running from a bigger gang, well tbh, its not a bad idea I do laugh when people say you had balls to jump in and fight, when in reality the scout totally messed up and counted command ships as cruisers and forgot to add BS to his overview. Half the time we camp people in station, they are not even there...they probably watching a movie, or out having a beer somewhere...while we orbit bubbles feeling uber When I log in..I log in to fight, personaly I love this war Fights everywhere, what more could you ask for. And yes Proxay, you did put the eagle in structure, he was on fire when he warped out. As for your cheap ships, yeah they were T1 frig cruisers (2 flycatcher died btw ) but they were very nicely fitted. Every tin I opened had those lovely T2 minie guns T2 gyrostabs etc yummy. Better fitted than most frig swarms, so respect to your pilots. Anyway..long post later...I hope our enemies are enjoying the combat as much as us o7
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.03.13 20:56:00 - [82] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Well this thread has drifted away from the OP...and thats a good thing, even from my biased view...I found it somewhat...er ..biased. To the bickering in thread: We all accuse each other of docking when outnumbered or running from a bigger gang, well tbh, its not a bad idea I do laugh when people say you had balls to jump in and fight, when in reality the scout totally messed up and counted command ships as cruisers and forgot to add BS to his overview. Half the time we camp people in station, they are not even there...they probably watching a movie, or out having a beer somewhere...while we orbit bubbles feeling uber When I log in..I log in to fight, personaly I love this war Fights everywhere, what more could you ask for. And yes Proxay, you did put the eagle in structure, he was on fire when he warped out. As for your cheap ships, yeah they were T1 frig cruisers (2 flycatcher died btw ) but they were very nicely fitted. Every tin I opened had those lovely T2 minie guns T2 gyrostabs etc yummy. Better fitted than most frig swarms, so respect to your pilots. Anyway..long post later...I hope our enemies are enjoying the combat as much as us o7 I could be misunderstanding this but if your saying the scout and the loss of the flycatchers and almost killed eagle is the same battle you are mistaken bad. We knew what you had on the other side 100%. We were in your space for 4hrs, killing some, running from others (yes I admit I am not afraid to run when outgunned and stuff). We found your camp, i decided screw it, why not. Jumped in popped your drake a few smaller ships, we lost a lot more, including my flycatcher. I had fun, was worth it and would do it again 5 times. And this is just 1 of 4 gangs I have lead into your space. Total damage (which tbh really dont effect d2) was over 8bil isk this weekend we caused with t2 frigs. We killed one Nano Phoon worth well over 1bil isk, killed 1 hulk, and then multiple other ships. Does this mean we are uber, heck no. But we had FUN. AXE - Where the men work hard and the girls want to play.
Kelron Neesna Diligent Souls	Posted - 2007.03.13 21:17:00 - [83] Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: Kelron Neesna It's not Xelas' fault that you can't ask for a roaming gang to join in their intelligence channels. I've been snooping on them for a couple weeks, and it seems there's always at least 2 gangs roaming through fountain at all times. There's even been Frig gank squads running up as far as Venal. You just need to be vocal and ask to be included. (and can someone translate Opium's post so that it's actually legible, please?) snooping on them in inteligence channels and actually being in the alliance are two different things. These small gangs you refer to are normally made up of the same 5-6 people who do all the effort and pvp. Our alliance has normal active size of around 70-80 online, 5-6 isnt acceptable. I am not trying to sound negative but it is the reality of the situation. Hopefully reading through all this will help us get our act together. If you don't like it, leave. There's nothing keeping you in your perceived situation. Perhaps if you paid more attention, you'd know that there are more than 5 Xelas in those groups. You really need to stop posting on the Eve-O forums about this stuff before you find yourself out of your Corporation for posting this stuff here. If you don't know the alliance forums, I'm sure someone in your alliance channel can point you in the right direction.
Akov Stohs Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 21:30:00 - [84] Edited by: Akov Stohs on 13/03/2007 21:27:51 Nvm - staying out of this
Ewa Quillam Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.03.13 21:54:00 - [85] Originally by: Drag Queen ... My view on the facts as I know them is - BoB did amazingly well against 30 capitals (which included a Mothership and a Titan) don;t forget they took out 2 of those 30 capitals for a net loss of 7 capitals. Pretty impressive tbh. I have to burst your little bubble. They've lost 9 faction (some say officer) fitted dreads and destroyed 2 ordinaryly fitted ones. Some might even estimate their loss at 45 bil, but lets turn it down to 30 bil, making like 3.3 bil per dread . RA/-A- lost 2 dreads worth lets say 2.5 bil each. So, the efficiency is 5/30 = 16,6%, pretty low. So, yeah, war is about managing your ressources right, doing a lot of damage for minimal losses and that's what BoB does too and they usually chest beat themselves with that (hence their toll of BS destroyed and lost on their KB), but BoB screwed this time, square and fare, no need to turn it any other way around. They got trapped and had no choice than to take with them as many as they could.
Founder Meo Gallente Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.13 22:13:00 - [86] Originally by: Metacannibal- the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) this behaviour can largely be attributed to their inherent character, being space renters and not space takers, if they had any ability to take or hold space, they would not go rent it. [/quote I take offence to that as a Bob pet we've already takin a station so nah :P and i havnt seen nor heard any moves to pull out or liquidating assets where in for the long haul just like ragoon and bob
Faceless Pokemon United Earth Directorate	Posted - 2007.03.14 00:12:00 - [87] Originally by: Kelron Neesna If you don't like it, leave. There's nothing keeping you in your perceived situation. Perhaps if you paid more attention, you'd know that there are more than 5 Xelas in those groups. You really need to stop posting on the Eve-O forums about this stuff before you find yourself out of your Corporation for posting this stuff here. If you don't know the alliance forums, I'm sure someone in your alliance channel can point you in the right direction. 4-5 may have been a slight underexageration, but it isnt far from the truth. It is a small handful out of 700+ pilots who do all the work. And the reason i do not leave is because my friends are in this alliance and i like the area, i post these things so they will do something about it. Posting what i have to say on the internal forums would either get my banned or make bad blood towards my corp by the rest of the alliance and they still would not listen as others have done this already. A large amount of my fellow alliance members who have seen my post agree with it. Also, to those that laughed at the idea of Xelas having 2 dreads.. show me an example of a time when we have fielded any in a significant number. In reality it is actually less than this because the alliance simply does not field them anymore, only carriers. The alliance has quite a few dread pilots but very few with actual dreadnaught ships to use and these are individual owned. There is no alliance capital fleet and barely any system at all for organising those who do have them.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.14 00:35:00 - [88] Originally by: DeathGrip Does this mean we are uber, heck no. But we had FUN. That is the whole point Do you think that when local jumped by 40 and we are suddenly stuck in a dictor bubble our hearts did not race Was great, but I had an even sweeter battle in Jan with a few good pilots today, that really made me sweat Was best little gang fight this year I have been in, and the little gank engagements that we have, may not change the outcome of the war, but my god it's fun And Death, we just played with your carrier in PNQ, I know you said a few things in local, but no-one in our gang responded ( someone else said a couple of really smacky things..but he logged when fighting started so he dont count ). This is fun, and I bet you had a little rush yourself docking that thing when it was falling apart Leave the smack to the smacktards. See you soon mate
DeathGrip Amarr Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.03.14 01:03:00 - [89] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: DeathGrip Does this mean we are uber, heck no. But we had FUN. That is the whole point Do you think that when local jumped by 40 and we are suddenly stuck in a dictor bubble our hearts did not race Was great, but I had an even sweeter battle in Jan with a few good pilots today, that really made me sweat Was best little gang fight this year I have been in, and the little gank engagements that we have, may not change the outcome of the war, but my god it's fun And Death, we just played with your carrier in PNQ, I know you said a few things in local, but no-one in our gang responded ( someone else said a couple of really smacky things..but he logged when fighting started so he dont count ). This is fun, and I bet you had a little rush yourself docking that thing when it was falling apart Leave the smack to the smacktards. See you soon mate You said it mate. And yep everytime i undock my heart rush's waiting for the dreads, waiting to see what kinda damage i can tank, waiting for that one bump that knocks me to far ( a few were close ). AXE - Where the men work hard and the girls want to play.
Helen STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 01:05:00 - [90] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. Quite a feat to get 15 kills a day off Xelas when they love to logoff/dock/play hide the sausage in a pos.
Cpt Psycho The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 01:09:00 - [91] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar I do laugh when people say you had balls to jump in and fight, when in reality the scout totally messed up and counted command ships as cruisers and forgot to add BS to his overview. Half the time we camp people in station, they are not even there...they probably watching a movie, or out having a beer somewhere...while we orbit bubbles feeling uber ROFL. That's pretty darn funny. I'm starting to like you guys more and more. Cheers to more good fights and hopefully low amounts of boring POS warfare.
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 04:54:00 - [92] Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. Their last action was a few days ago, when they sieged 2 pos's, only to find 3 days stront in each, and as the medium pos dropped into re-enforced, they all ran and hid to avoid a fight; eg, D2 arn't deploying capitals without superior numbers in every way shape and form by a 2:1 ratio. If this ratio isn't met, they log off. I can't say I'm impressed. Those POS's have now been destroyed within 20 mins of coming out of reinforced. Your 60 man fleet was 3 jumps away, then turned tail and ran. I can't say I'm impressed.
Xeliya Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.14 05:08:00 - [93] Edited by: Xeliya on 14/03/2007 05:07:27 Edited by: Xeliya on 14/03/2007 05:05:04 Originally by: Ewa Quillam I have to burst your little bubble. They've lost 9 faction (some say officer) fitted dreads and destroyed 2 ordinaryly fitted ones. Some might even estimate their loss at 45 bil, but lets turn it down to 30 bil, making like 3.3 bil per dread . RA/-A- lost 2 dreads worth lets say 2.5 bil each. So, the efficiency is 5/30 = 16,6%, pretty low. So, yeah, war is about managing your ressources right, doing a lot of damage for minimal losses and that's what BoB does too and they usually chest beat themselves with that (hence their toll of BS destroyed and lost on their KB), but BoB screwed this time, square and fare, no need to turn it any other way around. They got trapped and had no choice than to take with them as many as they could. Umm AAA was fit just like BoB's were. They did damn good considering they were long range fit, AAA/RA was close range. BoB screwed up huge, they didn't go in attack formation with the dreads around the POS like you would normally see fromt them. If they had they probably would have done ALOT more damage if not won due to RA/AAA with close range fit not being able to move to the next target. You are also forgetting the fact that 3 dreads can probably insta pop another dread or get damn close to it were 9 cannot, if you lose 3 by the time you kill 1 you will have a lot less damage and take much longer to kill the next where RA/AAA losing a few would not affect their damage output in a major way.
Chuck Dawg Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 07:49:00 - [94] Originally by: Rui Nosferatu Edited by: Rui Nosferatu on 13/03/2007 12:19:24 And in the north a farmer's prize pig will give birth to a dozen fine piglets that will have names like Sam, Jezebel and Miningwillwinwars. Wow I didnt know the dead could talk...

Ivan Kirilenkov Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.03.14 09:55:00 - [95] Locking this thread. It's decending into flaming various entities, and it's gone way off the topic. There are other threads to discuss the different conflicts going on. forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website


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