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Metacannibal Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:30:00 - [1] - youwhat will, due to d2 commitment and various merc contracts, go downhill fast, relocate to safe space and restrict themselves to raiding the soft rear of the d2 frontline - smash/rk will claim victory over ra by putting 2 towers somewhere into reinforced when ra wasnt home - bob/mc will stop using capitalships alone and will be forced to focus deployment again, due to their "slap in the face" experiences (bob in c3, mc: waagaa in the north where his aeon got shot to 52% armor, also the 2 carrierlosses, all just because of they were used***y) - the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) this behaviour can largely be attributed to their inherent character, being space renters and not space takers, if they had any ability to take or hold space, they would not go rent it. - as the combat approaches bob homespace, bob pilots are having less exhausting traveling to do, also, fuel jumping costs for the bob capitalfleets is going down alot, outweighting the loss of rental from slaves by far - various corps and alliances will bail from the war, especially those who thought fighting bob would work without having losses and sacrifice on your part - d2 in the north will destroy xelas since bob will be busy down south trying to get capitalshipkills versus RA/AAA/OHGOD, since that certainly ranks highest on the "who can force us to get insurance payouts" list. -mc, being deployed versus d2 in fountain will lose 1-2 motherships due to***y behaviour on euro tz, forums go "told ya" then, scenario a: every anti-bob alliance/corp has planned well, they should be able to deploy around bobspace for 1 year. once bob is forced to fight from npc stations AND lose more than 50 capitals per month for a prolonged time, first light at the tunnel can be seen. scenario b: highly naive corpdirectors and fleetcommaders assumed it would be an easy ride, not saving up for months of war, the war is over after some genius made some big mistake in a capital ship deployment, bob spy puts dictor bubble over coalition fleet, bob kill 60 dreads/capitals, laugh, win, collect rent from "new" lv
Fall Angelus Caldari Dignity Lost	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:33:00 - [2] heavily anti BOB post.
Tudor Minmatar Revolt	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:34:00 - [3] Please be nice - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Blue Stratos Amarr BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:38:00 - [4] Originally by: Metacannibal - youwhat will, due to d2 commitment and various merc contracts, go downhill fast, relocate to safe space and restrict themselves to raiding the soft rear of the d2 frontline - smash/rk will claim victory over ra by putting 2 towers somewhere into reinforced when ra wasnt home - bob/mc will stop using capitalships alone and will be forced to focus deployment again, due to their "slap in the face" experiences (bob in c3, mc: waagaa in the north where his aeon got shot to 52% armor, also the 2 carrierlosses, all just because of they were used***y) - the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) this behaviour can largely be attributed to their inherent character, being space renters and not space takers, if they had any ability to take or hold space, they would not go rent it. - as the combat approaches bob homespace, bob pilots are having less exhausting traveling to do, also, fuel jumping costs for the bob capitalfleets is going down alot, outweighting the loss of rental from slaves by far - various corps and alliances will bail from the war, especially those who thought fighting bob would work without having losses and sacrifice on your part - d2 in the north will destroy xelas since bob will be busy down south trying to get capitalshipkills versus RA/AAA/OHGOD, since that certainly ranks highest on the "who can force us to get insurance payouts" list. -mc, being deployed versus d2 in fountain will lose 1-2 motherships due to***y behaviour on euro tz, forums go "told ya" then, scenario a: every anti-bob alliance/corp has planned well, they should be able to deploy around bobspace for 1 year. once bob is forced to fight from npc stations AND lose more than 50 capitals per month for a prolonged time, first light at the tunnel can be seen. scenario b: highly naive corpdirectors and fleetcommaders assumed it would be an easy ride, not saving up for months of war, the war is over after some genius made some big mistake in a capital ship deployment, bob spy puts dictor bubble over coalition fleet, bob kill 60 dreads/capitals, laugh, win, collect rent from "new" lv You - No clue Just because u took a station they dont much care about doesnt make your corp/alliance major players
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:38:00 - [5] Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. Their last action was a few days ago, when they sieged 2 pos's, only to find 3 days stront in each, and as the medium pos dropped into re-enforced, they all ran and hid to avoid a fight; eg, D2 arn't deploying capitals without superior numbers in every way shape and form by a 2:1 ratio. If this ratio isn't met, they log off. I can't say I'm impressed. God I hope this is under 24kb
DK Metz Amarr Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:40:00 - [6] omfg a fun post. ________________________________ Radio for YOU Elder eve player. My mom met a jove!
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:51:00 - [7] Originally by: Blue Stratos Originally by: Metacannibal possible outcome of the war You - No clue Just because u took a station they dont much care about doesnt make your corp/alliance major players He never said anything about being major players in his post, and in comparison to a lot of other posts today, he had the spine to post with his main. Something which has become kinda rare these days. He's also giving 2 different scenarios where either BoB or the ebil coalition wins. NO post in this section is unbiased...like, you won't find a post from me supporting BoB But nothing should stop people who participate (!!!) in the war, aka not lame alts, to talk about what might or might not happen. At least he's not posting with a 1-man corp alt with a BoB signature _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
Backdoor Bandit Minmatar Gay Rights League	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:55:00 - [8] I predict a riot. Also, My TRIUMPHANT RETURN to Eve. Oh, and flames. I predict flames. That one's always a keeper. ----------- Post with your main or STFU!
NOObbody Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:56:00 - [9] Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 eg, D2 arn't deploying capitals without superior numbers in every way shape and form by a 2:1 ratio. . Sounds smart. --- I was sworn to absolute secrecy!
Khorian Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.03.13 11:59:00 - [10] Comedy Gold thread.

Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
Omatje Minmatar Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:06:00 - [12] Edited by: Omatje on 13/03/2007 12:05:15 Quote: - the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) If you are referring to the Feyth market situation: Those are still leftovers from ASCN corps mostly (250 dictors for sale in J0- anyone?) got no cool sig
Masochistic Cannibal Amarr Ghosts Of Genesis	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:07:00 - [13] Originally by: Backdoor Bandit . Oh, and flames. I predict flames. That one's always a keeper. You give me flames in my trousers big boy blushes Cannibal I eat babies ! [Hauling services available~ Contact ingame]
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Science Alt	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:14:00 - [15] snip Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Kreul Intentions ([email protected])
Rutoo Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:17:00 - [16] Originally by: Metacannibal - smash/rk will claim victory over ra by putting 2 towers somewhere into reinforced when ra wasnt home we already got one done. :P _________________________________________________________ My Second EvE Video Club Seals Not Sandwichs
Topaz Skydiver Minmatar Narrative Freshfood	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:18:00 - [17] Edited by: Topaz Skydiver on 13/03/2007 12:19:27 Originally by: Metacannibal then, scenario a: every anti-bob alliance/corp has planned well, they should be able to deploy around bobspace for 1 year. once bob is forced to fight from npc stations AND lose more than 50 capitals per month for a prolonged time, first light at the tunnel can be seen. Sound rediculous. Actually if I was pushed back to npc space and wanted to go on, I'd surely not take the capitals out week after week to try to conquer the same systems back again with bruteforce that I have already lost before and keep on losing capitals as long as the full coalition is at the door step. I'd attack the coalition, when and where they don't expect it and try to keep losses low. I'd try to break the morale of the coalition by not giving them any new successes and boring their blobs to death, until some leave and then strike again.
Rui Nosferatu FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:18:00 - [18] Edited by: Rui Nosferatu on 13/03/2007 12:19:24 My general predictions are that the south will continue its intense bloody fighting that has raged for quite a while. Everyone will loose lots of ships in lean mean pvp. The attrition rate of capital ships will be hideous. Logistics, industrial capacity and fat wallets will keep some alliances going to pursue strategic goals. And the will to get up again and carry on fighting after loosing systems. And in the north a farmer's prize pig will give birth to a dozen fine piglets that will have names like Sam, Jezebel and Miningwillwinwars.
Pesadel0 Vagabundos THE H0RDE	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:20:00 - [19] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. It isn't? I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP.
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Lilan Kahn Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. well "nothing" is a step up from "bugger all" and I'm sure those npc ratters that keep getting caught dont see it as nothing. Same as when it happens to our guys, it has an effect Ganks squads have their purpose, its not all about fleet action. CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it

Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:28:00 - [21] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Lilan Kahn Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. well "nothing" is a step up from "bugger all" and I'm sure those npc ratters that keep getting caught dont see it as nothing. Same as when it happens to our guys, it has an effect Ganks squads have their purpose, its not all about fleet action. tbh xelas is sooo used to get ganked by verius peopel i doubt they give a flying ** abut 15 ships lost a day. Originally by:** Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Vasili Z Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:37:00 - [22] Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. 15 ships a day Xelas, look out. ------- Someone from MC peer-pressured me to smoke pot, now I'm cool. Everything I say represents my corporation and their views.
Metacannibal Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:37:00 - [23] Originally by: Topaz Skydiver Sound rediculous. Actually if I was pushed back to npc space and wanted to go on, I'd surely not take the capitals out week after week to try to conquer the same systems back again with bruteforce that I have already lost before and keep on losing capitals as long as the full coalition is at the door step. I'd attack the coalition, when and where they don't expect it and try to keep losses low. I'd try to break the morale of the coalition by not giving them any new successes and boring their blobs to death, until some leave and then strike again. the number of capitalosses was just a wild number thrown around to emphasize that it will be a long walk to walk before bob corp/alliance is going to break a sweat iskwise over losses. a loooooong walk. your scenario is actually an alternation of the bob loss outcome. if bob is no longer the cool top dog in the game, a decent number of their "skilled pvp footsoldier" troops will consider this as a loss in ther e-peen contest. bob will either win or die, if bob as alliance has to resort to guerilla warfare it has sealed its own fate, they can only win in the offensive, even if that could accelerate their demise.
Cpt Psycho The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:42:00 - [24] Originally by: Pesadel0 Originally by: Lilan Kahn Originally by: Flinx Evenstar Originally by: Proxay Edited by: Proxay on 13/03/2007 11:35:32 Can i point out, XS losses to D2 + Friends in fountain has been bugger all. I'm sure you'd like that to be true, but a quick glance shows that we are ganking around 15 ships a day from Xelas alone around YZ- PNQ area daily. In fact ..you lost a ship on sunday to one of our roaming gangs. It was a good fight btw And on that occasion...you outnumbered us 40-17. Not to hurt your feelings but um ya know 15 ships a day is nothing. It isn't? It's pretty much bugger all for an entire region in a day. And don't forget, Xelas has some strong friends fighting along side them now - (us of course) . Our roving gang yesterday destroyed more than 15 ships I would say in the 3 hours it was going around. I would suggest you guys greatly strengthen your gatecamps up or else they are just going to keep getting demolished by us everyday. Like I said in another thread, if you guys don't step it up a notch we may have to move our base of operations to the outer ring so we don't have to go 25+ jumps north of Fountain before we find any hostiles numbering more than 5-8. Heh. And this is my personal opinion of course, I'm not speaking for the alliance.
Dawn Princess eXceed Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Backdoor Bandit Also, My TRIUMPHANT RETURN to Eve. Your skills need some polishing, how could you miss this beauty - Originally by: Metacannibal - youwhat will....restrict themselves to raiding the soft rear
pshepherd Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.03.13 12:52:00 - [26] Originally by: Metacannibal the "white flag" corps and alliances that feyth/esoteria/paragon will try to save their jewels and work out new deals. i conclude this since large scale liquidation of low value assets has already begun, including combat assets (dictors for under 5m, what a bargain, thank you for funding your agressors!) 1. We don't pay rent 2. No point in liquidating, we have plenty of capitals 3. We've just taken another station, so we're not planning on going anywhere
Flinx Evenstar Minmatar Momentum. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:02:00 - [27] Originally by: Cpt Psycho [Like I said in another thread, if you guys don't step it up a notch we may have to move our base of operations to the outer ring so we don't have to go 25+ jumps north of Fountain before we find any hostiles numbering more than 5-8. Heh. And this is my personal opinion of course, I'm not speaking for the alliance. I said to Proxay " good fight", why do these threads so quickly turn into flame fests. Lets take this in game Cpt Psycho, you only have one D2 kill, I'm sure you would like to get some more, rather than talk about it. CCP nerfed my sig..but this one has my name in it
Karunel Princeps Corp YouWhat	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:02:00 - [28] That was a well thought-out attemp at impartial reporting if I ever saw it. Wait. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:07:00 - [29] Well your thread title says it all this was a poor 'attempt'
maarud Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.13 13:10:00 - [30] I everytime someone thinks 9 dreads is alot to loose for bob and that it's now the end of them. Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member



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