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NickyYo
StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge
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Posted - 2011.12.21 14:58:00 -
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I don't know about you lot but ALOT of our corp has gone inactive to play SWTOR. Am i delusional or is this affecting eve population seriously? |
Abrazzar
385
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Posted - 2011.12.21 14:59:00 -
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Just a culling of the sheep. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |
Azitek
Astrum Tech Pina Colada Armada
11
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:01:00 -
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You don't quit eve. They can try, but they'll be back. |
Knug LiDi
N00bFleeT Numquam Ambulare Solus
24
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:03:00 -
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1) From early reports, I gather that reaching the level cap in SWOTR takes less than a month. We'll see what happens after that.
2) I strongly suspect that Skyrim is having/will have a greater effect on player ability
If only we could fall into a woman's arms
without falling into her hands |
Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:05:00 -
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SWOTR was very boring. Once the novelty of it wore off (a week tops) you see it is just KOTOR with multiplayer mode turned on permanently.
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Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
165
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:07:00 -
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Ohnoes, a game with enough appeal to keep people interested for a month or two is pulling people away from EVE... for a month or two. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-á |
Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
200
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:10:00 -
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I have seen 38 already, and its only been 1 day since release + 6 days earlier access slowly rolling people in if you preordered. Yeah, seen 2 hour que lines on "unofficial" Aussie servers (stupid down unders GTFO of my west coast US servers, go back to throwing more shrimp on the barbie what ever the heck that means!). Old Georgie lucas is just rolling in cash now, even got the old SWG shut down 2 weeks before his new pet game was released (pretty sure Mr. Lucas has the patents/rights/what ever to ANYTHING related to star wars in a vise like grip on the balls to squeeze them until they go blue to make cash off it ). |
thoth rothschild
First Aid Emergency Service
42
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:11:00 -
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Eve is a niche product which is not that much in competition with ego view mmo games. there are other games which do have more problems with "swotr".
what i do observe is the age of mmo market in general is declining. this is more because of the repetitive concept, "the not that cooperative community " and the "1 out of million heros (not being special)". Games like Skyrim, diablo are a much bigger danger to mmo games than most people would like to admit. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
437
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:13:00 -
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I'm calling it StarWOW. People are going inactive to try it out. if they really like Eve, they'll find this to be too much like every other MMO and once they're done playing with lightsabers and space combat on rails, they'll be back in here. You might lose a couple, but I'm pretty sure the people StarWOW appeals to aren't going to play Eve a lot anyway.
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
251
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:19:00 -
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umadbro
Quote:SWTOR will kill WoW |
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
208
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:20:00 -
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It's not going to kill EVE, since it's a totally different type of a game. Any serious threat it poses is against other ground based theme park MMOs. There is also a honeymoon period with all new games, so it'll take a few months before you can say anything concrete about what long term affects SWTOR will have on the population numbers.
PS. I'm not logging on to EVE either, but that's because of skyrim and christmas(relatives visiting and visiting relatives). |
Doc Fury
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
50
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:23:00 -
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Some healthy competition in the "Space MMOG" area is a positive thing, even if it is transitory.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Youwai
Perkone Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:26:00 -
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No, SWTOR is so full of ****.
Yes I'm mad that I wasted 50Gé¼ |
Lady Ayeipsia
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Cascade Imminent
7
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:28:00 -
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I was able to play some of starwars during the beta. It really is a star wara wow. You quest the samelevel up similarly, and well, I thought if I wanted that style of game, I would go back to everquest and my druid.
It lacks the space combat where eve shines. It also lacks the indy aspect that I have grown to love in eve.
So no, it won't kill eve. It may pull people away for a bit, but death.... Not unless they create a very good space combat system back with a good indy setup. |
Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
110
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:29:00 -
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Early reports indicate that "Going To Sleep at Night" is stealing players from EVE Online.
Is this the beginning of a steady decline which will leave EVE a barren ghost down? Current trends indicate that EVE will have 10000 concurrent players by tomorrow, 0 the day after that, and -10000 the day after.
However, experts contend that "Going To Sleep at Night" is a transitory phase which will see the return of players within 6-8 hours. Furthermore, this new product has seen less favour in other parts of the world, such as China, Russia and Australia, where "Going to Sleep During the Day" is having a far greater effect on EVE's concurrent player count.
More on this story, tomorrow morning. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2128
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:35:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:Early reports indicate that "Going To Sleep at Night" is stealing players from EVE Online. Sleeping is for the weak and sane, and we don't want either in EVE anyway! Wubwubwubwubgrrrl+ñ+ñ+ñ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
226
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:35:00 -
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Crumplecorn wrote:More on this story, tomorrow morning. You going to go sleep as well?
oh man, this game is dying |
Quit Whining
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:35:00 -
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thoth rothschild wrote:Eve is a niche product which is not that much in competition with ego view mmo games. there are other games which do have more problems with "swotr".
what i do observe is the age of mmo market in general is declining. this is more because of the repetitive concept, "the not that cooperative community " and the "1 out of million heros (not being special)". Games like Skyrim, diablo are a much bigger danger to mmo games than most people would like to admit.
Games like Skyrim, Diablo etc may indeed be a danger to MMOs....for a couple of months until you've completed the game.
How many people do you think will be playing Skyrim for as many years as they've maintained their EVE characters?
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Sarmatiko
248
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:43:00 -
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Wait Wars - The Queue Republic. Nuff said. |
Shinshi Casoyako
Metal Undead Mort's Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:49:00 -
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I have played SWTOR yesterday for a couple of hours and I have played EVE on and off for about 7 years now. I can savely say that I will be continuing to play EVE on and off for another 7 years, but I will not continu SWTOR for that long.
SWTOR is totally different and absolutely not comparable to EVE. SWTOR looks more like Tabula Rasa and WoW mixed together. EVE misses stuff that SWTOR has and SWTOR misses stuff that EVE has.
Will it be the dead of EVE? No. Will it be a nice change of settings when you are burned out with EVE? Yes.
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kenxi
Wormhole Router's
8
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:54:00 -
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I ROFL that someone thinks swtor could kill eve! If you want another wow clone feel free to leave --------> This game doesn't need or want you. And feel free to send me your stuffs as u feel the swift kick out the door! |
Prince Kobol
102
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:57:00 -
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played SWTOR in beta.. was bored after 20 mins |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2128
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Posted - 2011.12.21 15:58:00 -
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Quit Whining wrote: How many people do you think will be playing Skyrim for as many years as they've maintained their EVE characters?
WeeeellGǪ people are stil plating Morriwind, but that's probably because it's the best in the TES series. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Castor II
The Scope Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.12.21 16:00:00 -
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The only thing TOR is killing is the KOTOR franchise |
Jack Traynor
One More Corp
23
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Posted - 2011.12.21 16:09:00 -
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Yeah, Eve is dying, blah blah blah... If I'm going to spend money on a game subscription it better be worth it (ie, intelligent design and gamplay). SWTOR is a joke.
Next topic. |
John Nucleus
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.21 16:17:00 -
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I doubt SWTOR will affect Eve. Once you tasted the emergence of a sandbox MMO, the experience you get out of a very linear themepark MMO is lackluster to say the least.
Take Eve's sandbox and put a StarWars skin onto it and I'm in. Take WoW and put a StarWars skin onto it and I'm out.
Been there done that, now I'm looking for more. |
Terrorfrodo
Deep Space Darwinian Law Enforcement Agency
8
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Posted - 2011.12.21 16:21:00 -
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Skyrim is clearly the larger (temporary) threat to EVE. I play it, some devs play it, even the boss of Goonswarm does.
That said, at least one of my corp is inactive at EVE because of SWTOR.
It only becomes dangerous when games as good and friggin big as Skyrim start appearing regularly every few months... which is not going to happen. |
Sam Bowein
Sense Amid Madness
21
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Posted - 2011.12.21 16:28:00 -
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Shinshi Casoyako wrote:SWTOR is totally different and absolutely not comparable to EVE. SWTOR looks more like Tabula Rasa and WoW mixed together. EVE misses stuff that SWTOR has and SWTOR misses stuff that EVE has. Exactly, the two cannot be compared. EVE has 9 years of existence, and a huge depth of gameplay. SWTOR is just another refreshing break, one you play two months then quitGǪ |
Wacktopia
Sicarius. The Kadeshi
62
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Posted - 2011.12.21 16:33:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:I don't know about you lot but ALOT of our corp has gone inactive to play SWTOR. Am i delusional or is this affecting eve population seriously?
What, a game that is totally different from EVE in almost every single way apart from the fact it is a) online and b) multiplayer. You may have well said "My corp left to play football in the park". |
Dorian Tormak
P0ON
6
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Posted - 2011.12.21 16:41:00 -
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Tippia wrote:WeeeellGǪ people are stil plating Morriwind, but that's probably because it's the best in the TES series. You've got to be kidding. Oblivion was soooo much better I'M JUST LOOKING FOR AN A55 TO MOUNT!
...."and I've been fighting back ever since...." |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
2128
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Posted - 2011.12.21 16:51:00 -
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Dorian Tormak wrote:Tippia wrote:WeeeellGǪ people are stil plating Morriwind, but that's probably because it's the best in the TES series. You've got to be kidding. Oblivion was soooo much better GǪaside from the simplistic game play, the idiotic NPCs, the smallness (yet emptiness) of the world, the lack of quests, the pointless storylines, the hilariously bad minigames, the console-ised UI, the reduced options, the horrendous character designs and voice work. But yes, I suppose the grass looked nice. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
49
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Posted - 2011.12.21 16:53:00 -
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btw: is there any news from WorldOfTanks? I remember days when our corp was spending 80% of a time in WoT instead of Eve..... Esterday i asked about WoT in corp chat.... Didn't get any answers..... Looks like not one person remembers it |
Tore Vest
Vikinghall
105
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Posted - 2011.12.21 16:57:00 -
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Was about to play SWTOR.... but got a arror in my knee |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
1244
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:11:00 -
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We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3
CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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Kelsi Corynn
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:14:00 -
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Tried some SWTOR during beta. You'd have to pay me to keep playing that. Skyrim on the other hand...
EVE is at a point where the only thing that could (currently) kill it is its own players or CCP, or some convoluted combination of both. The game market has yet to produce a suitable substitute for this niche. |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
112
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:18:00 -
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well my alliance mates who went to try out SWTOR made a thread "how to grief SWTOR pubbies"
they figured out its no fun to grief in SWTOR, so they went back to eve
end of story
:B |
Wacktopia
Sicarius. The Kadeshi
62
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:20:00 -
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Kelsi Corynn wrote:EVE is at a point where the only thing that could (currently) kill it is its own players or CCP, or some convoluted combination of both. The game market has yet to produce a suitable substitute for this niche.
True. True.
GÇ£The salient feature of the games is that, as violent as they are, the player is removed from any actual physical threat. This has a profound influence on a player's tactical decision making. What cover does a soldier/player take, what rate of fire do they select, and at what range do they engage with the enemy when their avatar never "fatigues, never runs out of ammo, and simply "re-spawns" if killed?GÇ¥ ~ linky |
oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
40
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:23:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3
care to get some devs in and answer some more threads? pls |
Wacktopia
Sicarius. The Kadeshi
62
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:31:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3 care to get some devs in and answer some more threads? pls
No! We want moar raps. HTFU is years old now and I wanna see Guardy bouncing around rapping again! :) |
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
99
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:44:00 -
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Most of my corp (comprised of mainly 2003-2004 players) stopped playing just before the incarna thing, not sure if it was because of that, or just a case of burning out. Either way, they're now all on SWTOR and loving it. Personally, i will never allow origin on my machine, so i'm playing skyrim for now.
Eve is slowly fading to a memory for me at the moment, though as stated above, you never really quit. I guess i'm just hibernating for a while.
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Wacktopia
Sicarius. The Kadeshi
62
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:47:00 -
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Soi Mala wrote:Eve is slowly fading to a memory for me at the moment
Yet here you are on the EVE forums posting away lol.
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
1247
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:48:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3 care to get some devs in and answer some more threads? pls
I'll see what I can do. Drop me a line if you have any special requests. There's probably a few less dev comments right now because a lot of people are travelling home for Christmas or taking time off. But we've got good things planned for January ;) CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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Theodemir
Nemesis Holdings Corp Luna Sanguinem
9
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:51:00 -
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Fancy some PvE, play swtor; fancy PvP play eve. If you can afford to have both on the fly (or on/of sub for the alt mmo) then good times, otherwise who cares. My only gripe with swtor are those of the disposition to say "PvP servers are for men; PvE for nooblets". SWTOR is primarily PvE orientated and the game mechanics sucks for PvP.
Sadly (or thankfully for ccp I suppose lol) no other mmo out there can give you the "oh f**k" moments like EvE can, that imo gives the game so much more depth and fun. Being cornered by pirates and making a dash to the gate (stargate sg1 style) simply isn't possible in swtor, npcs are too dumb! |
mingetek
Obsidian Innovations
21
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Posted - 2011.12.21 17:52:00 -
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NickyYo wrote:I don't know about you lot but ALOT of our corp has gone inactive to play SWTOR. Am i delusional or is this affecting eve population seriously?
this "could" explain why my corp is mostly inactive as well lol. .. |
Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
99
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:03:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:Soi Mala wrote:Eve is slowly fading to a memory for me at the moment Yet here you are on the EVE forums posting away lol.
Thank you for pointing that out, but i think people could have figured it out, because they would have seen my post.
I check up on the forums once in a while to keep up to date with any mechanics changes, see what the latest rage is about, and occasionally troll morons. Doing so doesn't automatically mean i'm playing eve, or have any interest in playing eve at the moment. Your attempt at pedantism has failed, you'l get no self gratification from your attempt to make me look bad. Perhaps you should go beat up a woman to make yourself feel like a bigger man.
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Velicitia
Open Designs
226
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:06:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3 care to get some devs in and answer some more threads? pls I'll see what I can do. Drop me a line if you have any special requests. There's probably a few less dev comments right now because a lot of people are travelling home for Christmas or taking time off. But we've got good things planned for January ;)
There are ISK spammers and bots needing to get a friendly "hi!" from the space police. |
Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
244
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:14:00 -
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TOR sucks, and it's unlikely to attract sandboxers. however, when GW2 comes out i know that i'll be gone forever. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
6
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:15:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3 care to get some devs in and answer some more threads? pls I'll see what I can do. Drop me a line if you have any special requests. There's probably a few less dev comments right now because a lot of people are travelling home for Christmas or taking time off. But we've got good things planned for January ;)
How about the 58 days old, 77 pages long WiS thread? |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
149
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:18:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Dorian Tormak wrote:Tippia wrote:WeeeellGǪ people are stil plating Morriwind, but that's probably because it's the best in the TES series. You've got to be kidding. Oblivion was soooo much better GǪaside from the simplistic game play, the idiotic NPCs, the smallness (yet emptiness) of the world, the lack of quests, the pointless storylines, the hilariously bad minigames, the console-ised UI, the reduced options, the horrendous character designs and voice work. But yes, I suppose the grass looked nice.
well yep, wtb Morrowind in Skyrim graphics... as well wtb baldurs gate I+II + datadisks with 2011 graphics ... also wtb fallout I,II in 2011 graphics..but with same style of gameplay.. |
Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
244
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:24:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:
I'll see what I can do. Drop me a line if you have any special requests. There's probably a few less dev comments right now because a lot of people are travelling home for Christmas or taking time off. But we've got good things planned for January ;)
i certainly hope this involves significant Gallente buffs and soon-to-be-deployed FW changes. these are the top two priorities for EVE right now.
after that, you should probably address AF's, EAF's, Black Ops, lack of HAC role, and T3 subsystem balancing. lots of work to do. |
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Atticus Fynch
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:27:00 -
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It's a bit like stopping chess for awhile to play checkers. SWTOR and EVE are very very different games. During my time away, I played RIFT. RIFT is also a very good game but it's no EVE. SWTOR is the flavor of the moment, that's all that's happening. |
Fix My Lasers
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:40:00 -
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mingetek wrote:NickyYo wrote:I don't know about you lot but ALOT of our corp has gone inactive to play SWTOR. Am i delusional or is this affecting eve population seriously? this "could" explain why my corp is mostly inactive as well lol.
Give it a month or two and they come back.
SWTOR is a fail as an MMO. It's not because they copied 90% of WoW. It's because they didn't copy those Core 10% that makes WoW so good compared to other rubbish MMOs.
Believe it or not, if they don't change things they made very wrong, that game might loose a lot of people.
Obviously I'm not going to explain what they did wrong because no one pays me for that :D Bring back Blaze and Lux crystals! http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12812-Blaze-L-details.html http://eve.battleclinic.com/item/i12832-Lux-L-details.html |
Forum Fighter
Internet Tough Guys
24
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:43:00 -
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Wacktopia wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3 care to get some devs in and answer some more threads? pls No! We want moar raps. HTFU is years old now and I wanna see Guardy bouncing around rapping again! :) Guard needs to bust some new rhymes, yes. Bearer of the 1600mm Tinfoil HatGäó |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
38
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Posted - 2011.12.21 18:45:00 -
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Hungry Eyes wrote:CCP Guard wrote:
I'll see what I can do. Drop me a line if you have any special requests. There's probably a few less dev comments right now because a lot of people are travelling home for Christmas or taking time off. But we've got good things planned for January ;)
i certainly hope this involves significant Gallente buffs and soon-to-be-deployed FW changes. these are the top two priorities for EVE right now. after that, you should probably address AF's, EAF's, Black Ops, lack of HAC role, and T3 subsystem balancing. lots of work to do.
as soon as I saw HAC in that list I thought of this old classic! LMAO Armo Hacs, ARRMOR HACS, AAARRRMOR HACS!!!!
http://youtu.be/L-kGGW0UlPA
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Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
244
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:03:00 -
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lol epic
but yeah, armor HAC'ing is all thats left for HAC's to do, and T3's do that much better. tier 3 bc's are the best mobile snipers now. |
Hibernator X
The Industrial Consortium G a l a c t i c Industries
1
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:11:00 -
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Forcing the Star Wars universe into the WOW class system is really dumb. they should have followed the lineage of the star wars tabletop rpg...
+1 for Guild Wars.. so many people didn't realize how great this game is because you couldn't jump.. aside from content.. it is a far far more innovative game than WOW from a gameplay perspective and the sequel looks like it fixes all the problems with the first game.. looks like it's gonna drop like an atom bomb. |
Richard C Hoagland
Anarchos Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:12:00 -
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Other than the space aspect of the games (tenuous in the case of SWTOR, given that you're not in "space" much), the two games are apples & oranges.
SWTOR is a fantastic theme park game, if that's your thing. The game has already sold well, and I suspect will continue to do so. Perhaps Blizzard should be concerned. CCP should not be, for the most part.
I played in several beta weekends, and liked what Bioware did, overall. The problem, though, is that I've lost my taste for that kind of game, with its 'theme park on rails' experience. So I didn't preorder, and I haven't bought it yet. I may, but not now. In either case, I won't quit playing Eve for it.
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Max Von Sydow
Droneboat Diplomacy
90
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:19:00 -
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Castor II wrote:The only thing TOR is killing is the KOTOR franchise
^ This.
I played it for a few hours and the only thing that kept me going was the fact that the bounty hunter is voiced by Steve Blum. |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
38
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:24:00 -
[59] - Quote
All my friends who I used to play original SWG with (pre-CU, Pre-NGE) are playing SWTOR and bugging me to come play. they played wow for ever it seemed lol i like games that actually are graphically beautiful, technically challenging and more interactive/immersive.
I quit giving the tyrannical Emperor Lucas my money when he(they) killed a game that I loved. (some blame SOE, but SOE doesn't get any of my money anymore either, and I love EQII but skrew SOE). I like a Star Wars movie now and then but the only Star Wars game I would ever consider buying in the future would be Battlefront 3 (and not sure that will ever be released)
I checked out some gameplay videos of SWTOR on youtube and all i could think was "graphics suck, gameplay sucks...I'd play it for free but I'm not paying for that krap" I also laughed at a PvP video where the players enter the game on a speeder bike and are flying through the air on rails over the battlefield and circling around to the ground before they can get off to fight. its a speeder bike, not an xwing or tie fighter.
And that's what it is, StarWOW, that is a very good description of it and I just cannot bring myself to play a game that won't be original with their UI and gameplay. SWTOR would have been better if played like Skyrim. lightsabers and guns are not and should not be cliky-waity-clicky-waity |
Cipher Jones
188
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:30:00 -
[60] - Quote
Peoples rationalization around here amazes me. WoW has like 30x as many players as Eve. You can hate it all you want but assuming people won't play something because its like the most popular pay MMO makes no sense.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
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Marduk Nibiru
Physical Chaos
1
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:32:00 -
[61] - Quote
Skippermonkey wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:More on this story, tomorrow morning. You going to go sleep as well? oh man, this game is dying
Being asleep hasn't ever kept anyone from playing EvE, has it? |
Damian Goddard
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:05:00 -
[62] - Quote
Actually, I think SWTOR is good for Eve. SWTOR offers the style of gameplay that will attract the kind of people that Eve can do without. Ironically, I did not re-sub to Eve until I tried out SWTOR in one of the late betas. After playing it for about 30 mins, I knew it lacked pretty much everything I wanted in a space MMO (and SWTOR really is not a space MMO. It is a scfi MMO, but space has very little to do with it). Not long after that, I got the email about Crucible, and here I am again, after about 6 years of having not even thought about the game, much less having played it.
Eve is more for the people who want the mindless click-click-level experience without much challenge. It actually probably appeals to casual gamers more than most other MMOs, it is that lacking in any real depth. You can't grind/power level in Eve. That alone will act as a filter for people who have been playing Eve waiting for something like SWTOR.
And let me just say, the one huge red flag I saw in SWTOR (and I have been told a lot of MMOs are like this these days) was that most of the loot that drops is completely irrelevant. It's only purpose is giving you something to sell. There is no other use for it How lazy is that?? Is that really how MMOs are these days? Last one I played before Eve was EQ. |
Xolve
Intaki Armaments Important Internet Spaceship League
279
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:11:00 -
[63] - Quote
This just in!
Pornography is killing EvE! Lady Spank for C&P Moderator.
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Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
158
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:15:00 -
[64] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3
i love you CCP CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |
Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
72
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:20:00 -
[65] - Quote
Star Wow: Knights of the Old Hordepublic (which I am playing, for the record) will hurt Warcraft far more than EVE.
Because StarWoW is a mainstream, big IP, major marketshare type product, and it's good enough.
EVE is a VERY fringe product, with as hardcore a userbase as MMO's get.
Many longtimers leave, most come back.
EVE may lose a few thousand online for a few months, but it won;t take a mjaor hit.
WoW, on the other hand, should lose 1-3 million more Subs in the next 2-3 months.
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
376
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:21:00 -
[66] - Quote
how can a comic kill a submarine simulator? a new bounty system for eve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
LtCol Laurentius
Digital Fury Corporation
6
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:26:00 -
[67] - Quote
Themepark MMOs like SWTOR relies on a high user turnover to turn a profit, as most people get tired of the game after a few months. So even if a lot of current EVE players is playing SWTOR atm (like quite a few played World of Tanks last year), they'll be back. Besides, EVE politics & drama is heating up again, and will generate renewed interest. |
Iche He'Tvo
Sonic Industries Combative Industrialists Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:32:00 -
[68] - Quote
If you like little choice and being led by the nose than SWOR is for you. This is not the sandbox [limited as it was] that SWG was and does not lend its self to a long term limitless play style we have come to expect from EVE. The graphics are nice but I can live without the rehash of the same locked in story base and will keep on playing with the EMU SWG for a planet running diversion.
Thank you CCP for an engaging and interesting sandbox to play in and for not following everyone else keep up the good work |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
210
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:40:00 -
[69] - Quote
http://twitpic.com/7tdxvm
SW:TOR 1 EVE Online 0
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
328
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:41:00 -
[70] - Quote
Having a life will kill all MMOs.
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
461
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:00:00 -
[71] - Quote
Kelsi Corynn wrote: EVE is at a point where the only thing that could (currently) kill it is its own players or CCP, or some convoluted combination of both. The game market has yet to produce a suitable substitute for this niche.
CCP has been trying to kill EVE for years now, they still haven't succeeded (although they came close with Incarna).
Oblivion, Skyrim, SWtOR, various FPS games, etc. are where I go to blow off steam for a few hours/days, but I live for EVE. TOR is nice and has some nice improvements over WoW/AoC, but also has some lacking bits.
Unlike WoW/AoC, the cities in TOR do not feel immersive. Coruscant is extremely boring with its wide open areas and no places to explore. All of the rooms that look like they'd be interesting are generally locked behind instance portals. There's no sense of "this is where people sleep, this is where they eat, this is where they idle" other then the cantinas. Lots of locked doors around, but it all feels barren.
Not to mention the rather simplistic economy and manufacturing system in TOR along with the magic mailboxes and gear that lasts forever, even if you die. |
Berendas
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
58
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:07:00 -
[72] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Quit Whining wrote: How many people do you think will be playing Skyrim for as many years as they've maintained their EVE characters?
WeeeellGǪ people are stil plating Morriwind, but that's probably because it's the best in the TES series.
This this this, a thousand times this. I'll be playing Morrowind long after I've exhausted Skyrim. |
Zevina
Atomic Core Industries and Science
15
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:27:00 -
[73] - Quote
Eve will still be around when SWTOR is long dead. Has always been this way with other great MMOS and SWTOR isnt great enough to change anything. |
Ezekiel DeSangre
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:32:00 -
[74] - Quote
Wacktopia wrote:Kelsi Corynn wrote:EVE is at a point where the only thing that could (currently) kill it is its own players or CCP, or some convoluted combination of both. The game market has yet to produce a suitable substitute for this niche. True. True. GÇ£The salient feature of the games is that, as violent as they are, the player is removed from any actual physical threat. This has a profound influence on a player's tactical decision making. What cover does a soldier/player take, what rate of fire do they select, and at what range do they engage with the enemy when their avatar never "fatigues, never runs out of ammo, and simply "re-spawns" if killed?GÇ¥ ~ linky
Interesting read. They should have taken a closer look at eve imo. |
5p4c3 Truck3r
Carried Hate
0
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:33:00 -
[75] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3
The EVE cluster has reached its maximum user limit. Please try logging in again later. You are #63 in line for logon.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
572
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:43:00 -
[76] - Quote
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
That pic makes me very sad, I miss Stevie_SG.
Still, it's good to see her having fun... and looking good doing it. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Sara XIII
The Helljumpers
25
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:48:00 -
[77] - Quote
Crumplecorn wrote:Early reports indicate that "Going To Sleep at Night" is stealing players from EVE Online.
LOL, nicely done!
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Sycho Pathic
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:49:00 -
[78] - Quote
It has pretty much decimated the corp (sic) my "main" (sic) is in. Not really an Earth-shattering loss since it was little more than a chat client with spaceships. The few who still log in have set up a SWTOR guild and report the others are there waiting and ready.
I'm going to hold out until I have conclusive proof SWTOR is more than WOW with light-sabers.
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Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:49:00 -
[79] - Quote
Star Trek Online has a more lasting amount of pull away from EVE than TOR.
No offense yet the more I play TOR the more it flatly sucks even compared to KOTOR. The running around over and over for small potatoes missions is getting boring FAST. And I will not be subbing after my month is up until things get ALOT better. (I had said 3 months but I doubt they can fix everything needed in that time)
Did EA seriously spend more money than the SW movies to "Try" to make a WoW clone? They should have ripped off EVE's Sandbox system not WoW. |
TuonelanOrja
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:51:00 -
[80] - Quote
Florestan Bronstein wrote: traitor
what you think next will happen now |
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Jack Traynor
One More Corp
24
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:04:00 -
[81] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3
Nice... :-p +1 |
Bischopt
Ice Fire Warriors
29
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:04:00 -
[82] - Quote
No. |
Jack Traynor
One More Corp
24
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:05:00 -
[83] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:But we've got good things planned for January ;)
Teasing is bad, m'kay??
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El Boracho
State War Academy Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:06:00 -
[84] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3 care to get some devs in and answer some more threads? pls I'll see what I can do. Drop me a line if you have any special requests. There's probably a few less dev comments right now because a lot of people are travelling home for Christmas or taking time off. But we've got good things planned for January ;)
Nah, they are playing SWTOR also.
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Diana Dour
University of Caille Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:07:00 -
[85] - Quote
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John Nucleus
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:09:00 -
[86] - Quote
Hibernator X wrote:+1 for Guild Wars.. so many people didn't realize how great this game is because you couldn't jump.. aside from content.. it is a far far more innovative game than WOW from a gameplay perspective and the sequel looks like it fixes all the problems with the first game.. looks like it's gonna drop like an atom bomb.
Indeed, even if it doesn't have sandbox elements, I expect GW2 to be hell of a fun game to explore. It's a themepark MMO but it's a highly dynamic one. As far as I'm concern, gameplay wise, SWTOR is at least 5 years too late to the party. |
Jeami
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:11:00 -
[87] - Quote
John Nucleus wrote:Hibernator X wrote:+1 for Guild Wars.. so many people didn't realize how great this game is because you couldn't jump.. aside from content.. it is a far far more innovative game than WOW from a gameplay perspective and the sequel looks like it fixes all the problems with the first game.. looks like it's gonna drop like an atom bomb. Indeed, even if it doesn't have sandbox elements, I expect GW2 to be hell of a fun game to explore. It's a themepark MMO but it's a highly dynamic one. As far as I'm concern, gameplay wise, SWTOR is at least 5 years too late to the party.
Yes, it's what SWG always wanted to be.
Pretty sad. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
106
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:15:00 -
[88] - Quote
ToR has some great stuff in it...
The nicely done movies. The saber combat in the movies... oh wait...
IMO, the only good part of ToR were the trailers and opening movie. The rest was pretty meh. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
593
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:30:00 -
[89] - Quote
lol SWTOR The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Schani Kratnorr
x13 Raiden.
1
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:46:00 -
[90] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:I don't know about you lot but ALOT of our corp has gone inactive to play SWTOR. Am i delusional or is this affecting eve population seriously? Many are likely to return. SWTOR is not EVE, and EVE is not SWTOR. The two games have little in common, and appeal to different audiences. Sure there is the "it has lasers"-thing, but in the long run, EVE is a sandboxy type game where SWTOR is a more managed ride driven along by a combination of story and gameplay. EVE does have missions, but they do not (generally) send you across the galaxy holding you hand most of the way. SWTOR is more modern in that it knows it has to sell well among a wider range of customers.
What I do not understand is the terrible job CCP have done the last 2-3 years. From my perspective EVE is almost ready to fall into the SWG trap - dumbing down the death penalty and changing the mechanics to hide the fact that the back-end is incompatible with modern multi-core system.
I can understand why people who play EVE want to try SWTOR. They are likely to be Sci-fi fans, and at least a few of them will hide a secret desire to chop things to bits with "photon blades." Most will quickly notice the "theme park ride"-feeling one can get from "WoW"-type MMOs, but to be fair, it appears to have been very nicely done in SWTOR. The real question is:
"SWTOR killing WoW?" Unlikely, but the game does have a lot of small features that WoW could use, and Blizzard need to step it up to win some of them back. I ran into a lot of WoW players in SWTOR beta, and (it seems) even more in pre-launch/launch. Did bump in to a few EVE players, but the sharded nature of SWTOR (something I do not like in game design,) makes it difficult to judge.
On the server ques. It is worth noting that two EU servers are usually heavily congested. I was on "Bloodworthy" and that had 1h45m two days before official launch, so I changed servers. The two servers whose names got posted on a lot online are the ones with silly-lenght ques. All of the other eu servers have no ques or less than ten minutes (even last evening at launch.)
/TLDR: No, but blizzard should take notes |
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Dr Karsun
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club Care Factor
41
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:50:00 -
[91] - Quote
SWTOR sucks quite a bit, as far as I've heard and as far as I've played the beta...
And the real problem with it is that progression is very, very limited... Sure you can have many chars, but is that really fun? Start over and over and over again with nothing? Not sure.
They'll be back... Everyone comes back to the best online drug in existance. It's just a matter of dangling the carrot a bit, like the next expansion with ponies or something :) "Have you had your morning coffee?" -> the Coffee Lovers Brewing Club is recruiting! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=363976#post363976 |
Takseen
University of Caille Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:53:00 -
[92] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3
Oh snap.
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J Kunjeh
97
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:04:00 -
[93] - Quote
I heard that Dust is going to kill Eve... "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
465
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:37:00 -
[94] - Quote
Hungry mutant ninja rainbow is going to invade Jita and make the servers go mushroom mushroom. That will be the last day of EvE. I have spoken.
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Seleia O'Sinnor
Arklight Project Fade 2 Black
99
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:39:00 -
[95] - Quote
Wow in the costume of Jabba the Hutt? Eve has no competitor, though I'd love to see one emerge... Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing. |
Mystic5hadow
Koku Uchu Industries
126
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:42:00 -
[96] - Quote
EVE will never die unless another game EXACTLY like it but better in some way comes out or CCP kills it with something that messes up EVERYTHING. No MMO out there is like EVE, it's why we all play it and why we'll all keep coming back to it for the foreseeable future. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
77
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:47:00 -
[97] - Quote
I refuse to play another game that makes me QUEST to level up. EVE and FFXI did it right and are my favorite mmos of all time. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
465
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:56:00 -
[98] - Quote
Dbars Grinding wrote:I refuse to play another game that makes me QUEST to level up. EVE and FFXI did it right and are my favorite mmos of all time. You never know... perhaps in future you need to quest in planets to level up your advanced planetary interaction skill set while protecting your installations from some horrible vampire infection which has turned you to one also... ?
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Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:05:00 -
[99] - Quote
Not a gamer here. Eve is the only thing like it i've put any time into since i put away the Nintendo in the early 90's. I read threads like these as a short glimpse of another world, like a documentary on trainspotters or stamp collectors.
Srsly guise, guise, srsly. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Jeami
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:06:00 -
[100] - Quote
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:CCP Guard wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3 care to get some devs in and answer some more threads? pls I'll see what I can do. Drop me a line if you have any special requests. There's probably a few less dev comments right now because a lot of people are travelling home for Christmas or taking time off. But we've got good things planned for January ;) How about the 58 days old, 77 pages long WiS thread?
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xxxak
Intergalactic Syndicate Nulli Secunda
129
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:07:00 -
[101] - Quote
I have played SWTOR, and it is .... not a threat to EVE.
It is, as others have pointed out, a WoW clone that focuses almost 100% on killing Banthas and nameless and irrelevant PVE characters as your cross ugly swamps.
Worst of all, it really is an ugly game. At max settings on my 30" monitor it just looks like crap. The textures look like something from 2004..
I might even level a character just for sh*ts and gigs, but it's not threat to EVE. The nerfs to supercaps will cause more super pilots to join the largest alliances who can properly "support" their deployment, further concentrating firepower/wealth in EVE. The end result will be fewer "fun" fights, and will hurt EVE in the long run. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
84
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:12:00 -
[102] - Quote
NickyYo wrote:I don't know about you lot but ALOT of our corp has gone inactive to play SWTOR. Am i delusional or is this affecting eve population seriously?
Our entire super cap fleet is busy playing Battlefield 3 for the last 3 months, SWTOR can't even compare. |
Surge Roth
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2011.12.22 01:38:00 -
[103] - Quote
Marduk Nibiru wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:More on this story, tomorrow morning. You going to go sleep as well? oh man, this game is dying Being asleep hasn't ever kept anyone from playing EvE, has it?
My que was empty this morning. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
665
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Posted - 2011.12.22 01:40:00 -
[104] - Quote
Confirming that TOR More likely to kill wow than eve
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Apollo Gabriel
Mercatoris Etherium Cartel
356
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Posted - 2011.12.22 01:43:00 -
[105] - Quote
CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3 NO offense Guard, but why would you do missions? They're about as dull as it gets.
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Ottersmacker
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
12
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Posted - 2011.12.22 02:00:00 -
[106] - Quote
Judging from some gameplay footage, this "SW TOR" you speak of is just a manifestation of how Azeroth knows no bounds. The Order of the Falcon or Hin +¡slenska f+ílkaor+¦a is a national Order of Iceland |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2011.12.22 02:12:00 -
[107] - Quote
Bah, not going to even bother. While I did like some early Star Wars games like Tie Fighter and X-Wing, SW games are old and tired...even if they are new,,, |
Thrawn Nostur
Impulsive Anarchy Talocan United
0
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Posted - 2011.12.22 02:30:00 -
[108] - Quote
Star Wow Thoroughly Over Rated |
ILikeMarkets
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.22 03:36:00 -
[109] - Quote
I am currently playing SWTOR and not logged into EVE, but I have not replaced EVE with SWTOR. That would be like trying to replace MW3 with Aion. They are too different for one to be a threat to another. SWTOR has no space combat worth mentioning (just some rail system that no one in the game likes). The enjoyable part of that game is the actual MMO aspects combined with Mass Effect style story system. But, at the end of the day, I don't get to fly space ships and therefor it stands no chance of taking me from EVE.
SWTOR is now my supplemental MMO to EVE. I play some EVE, I play some SWTOR, and I am happy. |
Arctur Vallfar
Knights Adamant
15
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Posted - 2011.12.22 03:40:00 -
[110] - Quote
EVE Online will likely outlive SW:TOR. Though I don't mean to judge a game I haven't played, this is just an observation of what else is out there. The two games can and will coexist. |
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Piran Eligius
PwnCo
0
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Posted - 2011.12.22 03:53:00 -
[111] - Quote
I am currently playing TOR. And since it's a story and plot driven game, once I complete the story, I'll shut her back down and resume playing EVE.
PS - I'm keeping up my EVE sub while playing TOR in support of the refocus on space pew pew. /waves at Devs. Yer welcome. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
37
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Posted - 2011.12.22 03:59:00 -
[112] - Quote
oh god i need to change my panties and go wis and social o7o7m8m8 in swtor fffffuuuuu ccp it is like if i went on second life and raged where's the spaceships |
Ioci
Space Mermaids
18
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Posted - 2011.12.22 04:01:00 -
[113] - Quote
The only threat to EVE is EVE. SW-TOR might be one of those games that speed up a decline here but the truth be told, alot of people who picked up EVE in the last few years don't belong here. CCP welcome them but the community at large do not and see them as cattle.
If CCP have built a game around 60K login and 450K active then EVE will hurt for a while but I believe EVE out sized its Niche. |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
123
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Posted - 2011.12.22 04:52:00 -
[114] - Quote
Jowen Datloran wrote:Ohnoes, a game with enough appeal to keep people interested for a month or two is pulling people away from EVE... for a month or two.
problem with me is there is allways some new game every two months... so i still end up paying for eve but just train... its sad i train out of some compulsion... i need a doctor... :P |
V'ern
Universal Might DSM FOUNDATION
0
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Posted - 2011.12.22 05:22:00 -
[115] - Quote
Star Trek Online could have killed Eve. If they stole the space ship combat from Eve and used WOW like gound missions that we could opt out of ever seeing. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
128
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Posted - 2011.12.22 05:44:00 -
[116] - Quote
EVE broke me. I can no longer stand themepark MMOs.
I need to range freely and do whatever the **** I want.
I <3 EVE
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Captain Alcatraz
Douchingtons Shadow Cartel
49
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Posted - 2011.12.22 05:48:00 -
[117] - Quote
Azitek wrote:You don't quit eve. They can try, but they'll be back.
In other words, one cannot simply walk out of EVE. |
Conrad Lionhart
The Disciplina Incursio Project Irrelevant.
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Posted - 2011.12.22 07:00:00 -
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As stated by others, SW:TOR and Eve are 2 different games so SW:TOR cannot kill Eve Online. It doesn't offer what Eve Online offers to players.
What your corp is experiencing is merely people playing a new game, whether it be Skyrim, Batman, MW3, SW:TOR, etc. |
Gantz Tleilax
Tleilax Foundation
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Posted - 2011.12.22 07:08:00 -
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Lately with the holidays and work I haven't had more than an hour at a time to play much of anything. I've been playing TOR because it's easy to jump in for 30 minutes do something and leave. Eve really doesn't support casual gameplay much unless you consider PI and updating your market orders fun. ( you might think running missions are quick, but that pve content is soooo old, and I've done it all.)
I love Eve, but it's something I really get the most out of when I can play it for more than a few hours in a sitting.
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DeBingJos
T.R.I.A.D
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Posted - 2011.12.22 07:24:00 -
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I think it has more to do with the holidays than with another game... Fix FW ! |
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BLACK-STAR
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Posted - 2011.12.22 08:19:00 -
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Thrawn Nostur wrote:Star Wow Thoroughly Over Rated pretty much this. [img]http://www.imgbox.de/users/S7AR/star.png[/img] |
Timural
The Minutemen NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2011.12.22 08:45:00 -
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I bought and played Swtor and only put 3 hours into it until I decided I wanted to end my month long break from Eve and play again.
Most eve players wont enjoy Swtor, its restrictive in almost every way and honestly could've been a single player game with a multiplayer battle arena cause thats exactly what it ends up being.
I'm hoping I'll get into the game soon cause I've spent 60 bucks on getting it. But I'm doubtful. |
Zimmy Zeta
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
176
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Posted - 2011.12.22 09:03:00 -
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I now realize how wise it was for ccp to refocus on FiS with crucible in the face of SWTOR. SW is no threat to spacefights, but it surely would have been to a poorly implemented incarna. It is nice that they got it all by themselves, without any hint of the players at all. Well done. -.- |
Wacktopia
Sicarius. The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2011.12.22 09:12:00 -
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Soi Mala wrote:Wacktopia wrote:Soi Mala wrote:Eve is slowly fading to a memory for me at the moment Yet here you are on the EVE forums posting away lol. Thank you for pointing that out, but i think people could have figured it out, because they would have seen my post. I check up on the forums once in a while to keep up to date with any mechanics changes, see what the latest rage is about, and occasionally troll morons. Doing so doesn't automatically mean i'm playing eve, or have any interest in playing eve at the moment. Your attempt at pedantism has failed, you'l get no self gratification from your attempt to make me look bad. Perhaps you should go beat up a woman to make yourself feel like a bigger man.
I did nothing of the sort. I merely pointed out that it is a contradiction to day EVE is a fading memory whilst you are actively posting on the game forums.
Your attempt to use clever words to make yourself look clever has failed horribly. Oh, the shame. 1000 shame's on you.
Anyway it looks like I hit a nerve because of your completely over-reactionary answer involving suggesting physical violence. I suggest you take some time out from computers. They can be stressful and cause you to suggest to people that they beat people up.
I must admit I am worried about you. I hope you don't resort to hurting someone over this. If you need to talk about it then please get in touch with your local mental health professional or a volunteer listening service. They will help and listen to your troubles. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.22 11:15:00 -
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Bf3 killed EVE actually. |
Alain Kinsella
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Posted - 2011.12.22 11:33:00 -
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Confirming that my work involving (and probably extending) Icinga has pulled me off Eve far more than any game ever will.
Yes I'm a sucker for FOSS projects, in particular when tied to things like monitoring and backup. I may have come here from Myst Online, but that does not make me any less bloodthirsty than the average Eve player.
Just more subtle.
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Morpheus Mishima
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2011.12.22 11:42:00 -
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Stop posting all this bullcrap people... NOTHING can kill EVE except for EVE itself.
2011: WoT had a good run during the beta and after release, but everybody came back after they figured out it was nothing more than something to do between fleet-fights.
Skyrim is a singleplayer game with a finite storyline. Sure it will probably spawn ex.packs in the future, but most people will grow tired of walking and taking arrows in the knee.
BF3 is a FPS game (duh). Ofc a lot of people will devote time to this game, for a long period of time too. But in the end its all very repetitive.
SWTOR and STO are just wow-clones with spaceships and lasers. Nothing more. Neither offers any of what EVE does on the meta-gaming level. Sure, they have some of the things we might wish EVE had right now. But all that proves is the fact that the developers of these games does not see the true potential and appeal of EVE.
Do we want fps-type combat in EVE? Do we want to fly our frigs (sized 50 -> 200m long) as if they where WW1 fighter-planes?
World of Warplanes will probably pull quite a lot of people away from EVE for some time. But after a while it too will suffer from what WoT did. Repetitiveness.
tl;dr: the thing that is appealing about other games is that its something "new" to do, and tries to do something EVE does not do. (But miss the mark completely on everything that EVE offers) |
Raven Ether
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.22 11:57:00 -
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SWTOR is overhyped.
Decent game, just not as good as people make it out to be. |
Dbars Grinding
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.22 12:21:00 -
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Morpheus Mishima wrote:Stop posting all this bullcrap people... NOTHING can kill EVE except for EVE itself.
2011: WoT had a good run during the beta and after release, but everybody came back after they figured out it was nothing more than something to do between fleet-fights.
Skyrim is a singleplayer game with a finite storyline. Sure it will probably spawn ex.packs in the future, but most people will grow tired of walking and taking arrows in the knee.
BF3 is a FPS game (duh). Ofc a lot of people will devote time to this game, for a long period of time too. But in the end its all very repetitive.
World of Warplanes will probably pull quite a lot of people away from EVE for some time. But after a while it too will suffer from what WoT did. Repetitiveness.
tl;dr: the thing that is appealing about other games is that its something "new" to do, and tries to do something EVE does not do. (But miss the mark completely on everything that EVE offers)
You forgot World of Warships. This will grab more EVE players than Warplanes imo. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.12.22 16:16:00 -
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Dbars Grinding wrote:
You forgot World of Warships. This will grab more EVE players than Warplanes imo.
It's not until World of Submarines finally comes out that CCP has something to really worry about.
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Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2011.12.22 17:33:00 -
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when SWTOR comes up, the Dark Side of the force by the power of Zombieman compels me to post this LINK
"Is this science fiction or every city in North America?" ... Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
317
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Posted - 2011.12.22 18:03:00 -
[132] - Quote
For a game to kill eve it has to have something called quality. Sadly SWTOR is not quality.
On the otherhand when skyrim landed you could see a visible population drop in eve. |
Dorian Tormak
P0ON
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Posted - 2011.12.22 20:35:00 -
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SWTOR has done to games what the prequel movies did to films. I'M JUST LOOKING FOR AN A55 TO MOUNT!
...."and I've been fighting back ever since...." |
Deviana Sevidon
Jades Falcon Guards
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Posted - 2011.12.23 13:14:00 -
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Skyrim is still sucking up a lot of time that was usually reserved for EVE, but games like this I usually only play for a few weeks and then return to EVE. Played the SWTOR final beta, even leveled to level 17, just because I wanted a ship and see the space combat myself and then I lost all interest in the game, when I saw the tunnel shooter and realised the rest of the game is also a tunnel-RPG.
6 Years of playing EVE and I am not going to leave anytime soon, expecially not for SWTOR. |
Xerces Ynx
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.23 15:12:00 -
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Alain Kinsella wrote:Confirming that my work involving (and probably extending) Icinga has pulled me off Eve far more than any game ever will. Yes I'm a sucker for FOSS projects, in particular when tied to things like monitoring and backup. If you are wiling do drop your FOSS exclusivity, I recommend "HP Data Protector". This data backup game will raise your adrenaline level to the sky. It's better than PvP. You never know what will happen next and if you pair it with some modern HP tape library, the excitement will never end. Errors, crashes, undefined behavior, ... And there are no tutorial missions. A truly hardcore experience. |
Xenuria
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet Hearts And Minds Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.24 04:35:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:We respect your choice to play whatever game makes you happy. We just want you to know that you are always welcome to stay and run a few missions while you wait in the log in queue. <3
Well Played... |
Antodias
Ship spinners inc
0
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Posted - 2011.12.26 01:41:00 -
[137] - Quote
Space fairy rehash of WoW
Still, can't be as mindlessly monotonous as this game can it? |
Richter Enderas
Coronal Core Research Inc Wild-Cards
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Posted - 2011.12.26 10:35:00 -
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Haha, caring about other MMOs.
On the real though, Drew Karpyshyn is writing for it I believe, so that means (hopefully) good things. |
Milonia
APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.12.27 05:21:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:EVE broke me. I can no longer stand themepark MMOs.
I need to range freely and do whatever the **** I want.
I <3 EVE
QFMFT |
Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.27 13:50:00 -
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Predictable Thread is Predictable?
EVE Players (all ~30,000 of us actual individual human beings) decry SWTOR as "sucky".
SWTOR sells 1.5 million units in it's pre-order and first week, on the way to what looks like a predicted 3 million subs first month.
EVE Players bemoan that "Theme Park Ride MMO's have no staying power.
WoW rolls on in Year #7 with 10 million+ subs, despite the fact it's content has been tripe for ages.
EVE Players decry it as too easy, too basic, too rails, etc.
EVE Players forget that EVE-level difficulty is VERY niche, and that the vast majority of teh gaming public wants easy, basic, rail-based story-driven fun.
Face it boys and girls, Joe Q Gamer knows what EVE is, and has said "lol, no, too hard".
Joe Q. Gamer knows what a Sandbox is, and replies "meh, no point, I don't play video games to write my own story or create my own fun".
We truly dedicated and long-term Sandbox'lovin EVE players are like the hardcore Fligh Sim folks, except there are alot less of us around.
The reason the Sandbox is so rare is because the players have roundly said "no thanks" to our preferred style of gaming. |
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