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TrippyX
Caldari The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 07:01:00 -
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Originally by: Pabs Sco lol...what a way to start the day reading this really funny post.....
sure is.. told you you should've come to TSYND instead of IXC... at least we don't have a BoB spy leading our corp ____________________
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Pabs Sco
Caldari eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: TrippyX
Originally by: Pabs Sco lol...what a way to start the day reading this really funny post.....
sure is.. told you you should've come to TSYND instead of IXC... at least we don't have a BoB spy leading our corp
lmao  ------
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killerco
Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.14 07:13:00 -
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I don't believe Virtuozzo was a BOB spy in ASCN. And the chatlogs you provide do not prove that assumption.
BTW how is that Erebus flying?
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Chuck Dawg
Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 07:13:00 -
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Who cares what one man says? Unless its an official RA or Goon spokes person I'd take everything you hear/read with a grain of salt.
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Sheriff Badden
Amarr Legion Federation Amen Anera
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Posted - 2007.03.14 07:23:00 -
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omg plot twist!   Them Yellow jackets keep the tired man from slacking. |

Silvitni
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Drakma Edited by: Drakma on 13/03/2007 23:07:41 Ok, I'll keep this short and sweet. Through converstations with various people it has come to my attention that the BoB Spy in ASCN HC is....
VIRTUOZZO!!!!!!
Congrats Virt on your long reign as the unknown ASCN HC Spy. It was a good run... too bad you started feeding too much **** to everybody now; it was only a matter of time.
I doubt this is true.
During the ASCN - BOB war i had several private convoes with Virtuzzo, where he was trying to make a deal with E-R to help ASCN.
Things were said by him and wanted by him, that 100% does not classify him as a spy.
silvitni
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Eron Lygera
Gallente Sharded Awareness
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Posted - 2007.03.14 08:45:00 -
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No matter what, the coalition is down another alliance. As mittani said, Invictus can no longer be trusted with capital ops...
Ps. Dont nerf WCS! |

Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Eron Lygera
No matter what, the coalition is down another alliance. As mittani said, Invictus can no longer be trusted with capital ops...
BoB alts/pets don't decide whether the Coalition is down another alliance TYVM.
While I can't speak for the alliance as a whole, I intend to fight BoB for as long as it takes to take them down.
As for not being trusted with capital ops, I doubt we ever were (stuff like this should be on a need-to-know basis, and IMO we are nowhere near a position of need-to-know). And thankfully AAA/RAGOON are far beyond needing any help in shredding BoB dreadfleets as they have proven this week, so I am not worried about that either. -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft. |

Damion Zyne
Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: The Mittani Edited by: The Mittani on 14/03/2007 02:03:27
Especially since right after the BoB dread kills, Nync's laptop promptly broke and he's out of eve, too.
Hope this wasnt another BoB carpet ninja spy
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Leogassia
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:08:00 -
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<quote> No matter what, the coalition is down another alliance. As mittani said, Invictus can no longer be trusted with capital ops... </quote>
Are you telling me I could pew pew bob dreads with mine and I can't be trusted anymore. Why didn't anyone tell me I could shooty shooty.
I have a prop. You cyno me in 2 minutes after the op starts and don't tell me anything, if I start shooting friendlies, I am sure it wouldn't be that hard for the entire coalition to uproot us, well at least this semester :).
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Lord XSiV
Amarr The Nine Gates
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:10:00 -
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Wow, I had nothing in part of starting this in no way, shape or form using either direct or indirect methods of possible potential influence that are availabe either throung in-game or metagaming mechanisms....
Having said that.
Both Virt and Drama Queen (ok, sorry Drak, I know you don't take it seriously) are both very 'straight' up players. Not saying either way to confirm or refute any allegations, just that they are both good people.
Have fun people, it is still just a game. Depends if you know what game you are playing and always keep in mind that Eve supports non-consentual PvP. Intelligence/Subterfuge is another form of PvP whether you like it or not. That also means that ebil sp1es you let in because they had 48m sp and can fly dreads are fully capable of looting your hangers, turning your peons against you through the use of the rumor mill and general questioning of the powers that think they be.....
I am not sure which is more fun too be honest.
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MOS DEF
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:11:00 -
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Knowing Virt from back in the days in ASCN i believe he deserves much more then thise crappy chatlogs that don't really say much tbh.
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HatePeace LoveWar
Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: HatePeace LoveWar on 14/03/2007 09:22:55
Originally by: The Mittani Edited by: The Mittani on 13/03/2007 23:44:15
Originally by: Trooper B99 Edited by: Trooper B99 on 13/03/2007 23:34:42
Out of curiosity, why was Mittani posting the chatlogs and not Metacannibal? Or was it just for "dramatic effect" re the two lines he wrote?
Because I'm the one who can confirm/deny what's up with GS/RA and point out precisely how laffo this crap is.
VVV The log doesn't show that he's a BoB spy per se. It does conclusively prove, however, that he's been telling people some whoppers about the Swarm, while nominally on our side. Naughty, naughty Virt.
Your not looking like a great advert for anyone who'd potentially wanting to work with you, by labelling 'naughty' people as spies and liars.
This guys a director, your potentially causing a lot of damage here (to his corp / alliance) if this doesn't turn out to be true (theres a lot of damage either way).
So he's badly informed, hardly makes him a spy. 
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Vensa Heckler
Clarf Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Leogassia <quote> No matter what, the coalition is down another alliance. As mittani said, Invictus can no longer be trusted with capital ops... </quote>
Are you telling me I could pew pew bob dreads with mine and I can't be trusted anymore. Why didn't anyone tell me I could shooty shooty.
I have a prop. You cyno me in 2 minutes after the op starts and don't tell me anything, if I start shooting friendlies, I am sure it wouldn't be that hard for the entire coalition to uproot us, well at least this semester :).
corptags panman, or that'll get nerfed -
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Omatje
Minmatar Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:32:00 -
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Originally by: Brunswick2 I'm sorry, but that has to one of the largest piles of bull**** i've seen in awhile, and I read the CAOD forums a lot.
I have a question? If virt was a BoB spy/alt all along, care to explain why he's been running IXC for longer than BoB has even existed.
And about him running ASCN badly after CYVOK left? WTF was there left of ASCN? When Virt got the whole position dumped in his lap with only a day or two's notice, ASCN pretty much had like 5 corps left. We couldn't even get a gang of more than 20+ people, CLS had already pulled out, it was pretty much over by then. There wasn't anything left to run.
If hes a BoB spy? WTH did he bother forming an alliance with 3 member corps, and 640+ people. There are a LOT easier ways to get important internal affair than helping manage a 0.0 corp for 2.5+ years and then after that forming a new alliance that remains only semi-involved in the BoB war.
Why didn't IXC receive a deal with BoB to move stuff out of feyth if Virt was such an integral part to their intelligence?
Nothing seems to add up.
I trust Virt. I've known him longer than I've been in IXC, I had the utmost respect for him in ASCN, even when I wasn't in his corp. I've never seen a proven example of him lying, so I'd still take his word over yours. kthnxbai
/signed
This also shows, that any convo's you have with Meta are expected to go public, or at least to be shared.
If we would all go into tinfoil hat mode, the way this convo is posted would show that Meta is a spy for Goon
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Leogassia
Caldari The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:41:00 -
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Official this is no longer panman's char.
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Custodis
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:45:00 -
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Yes virt is a BOB spy The fact that IXC was the number 1 killers in the ASCN vs BOB war..the fact that his new alliance Lost the frist MS to "MC".. the Fact that IXC left ASCN poor.. The Fact that IXC flew with E-R and killed more BOB then all of ASCN did during the whole war.. this makes sense guys.. Virt is a spy
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Lunas Feelgood
Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:52:00 -
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Lol if virt is a BOB spy then im a former xetic noob FC that cant even spell correctly.. O wait
Seriously Virt is a good guy, he is no spi.. This chatlog just looks like virt got some information wrong..
Drakma I like what you guys have been doing since you ASCN days , remind me abit about black lance, Maza and E-R back in the day when Xetic collapsed..
But this is very weak m8..
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Braaage
Laborius Chapter
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Posted - 2007.03.14 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: Drakma stuff
You don't know Virt very well at all do you.....
Spy.... no Confused with all the info sometimes......yes
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Victor Merren
The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:04:00 -
[110]
Well so far we seem to have established the following:
1. Drakma got all hot and bothered and made a omgwtfbbq post before thinking things through.
2. Nobody should ever talk to Metacannibal ever again, in RL too just to be sure.
3. The Mittani should show more restraint in issuing proclamations that are based on conjecture and significant leaps of logic.
4. If you spin tales and BS to the minor blue alliances within your neighborhood (past and present) for whatever reason, you will be labeled a spy.
Or this could all be another clever decoy aimed to lull BoB into another "lets field our capital fleet without enough support, coalition is clearly falling apart and will not be able to attack us" move.
V.
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dellie
Darwin With Attitude
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:18:00 -
[111]
*cough* *cough* /me sets up singing voice..
Just Cry Baby Cry Don't cry no more Cause every tear that flows falls into the ocean And rises to the sky And then the rain will come Right before the sun shines Cry Baby Cry....
/me tips hat..
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klobbo theKuh
Minmatar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:21:00 -
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Virt a spy ??? I would say no. He would need way too long to report any informations to his masters. believe me, I have read his blogs and I have listened to his speeches. And Drakma, pls give the money to someone with sure instinct
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Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Trinity Faetal it is funny how so many people think of RA as just another alliance. they have been living in the southern regions for as long as eve existed and they will continue to do so long after the current alliances will all be dead and forgotten.
you're all merely puppets in the hands of the red masters
Except for 6 months that they passed mainly in empire with a handfull of pvpers defending their single system and 90% of their original membership in Jita.
They did bounce back and in a fashion that shows their greatness (such as it is) but the empire spell is a fact not to be forgotten  Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim. |

Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:48:00 -
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This is just ridiculous.
I have known Virt for 2 years and have never once had reason to believe that he was a bob spy.
Someone that loves the politics and drama and being all machievellian? Yes.
Someone that might have got some bad intell? Yes.
Someone that is trying to undermine the coalition? No. .
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Laythun
Black Lance Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.14 10:58:00 -
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One chat log aint enough tbh.
and i hate drama bombs. Im sure the cool kids will sort this out ;) Please choose a less distracting signature -Sahwoolo Etoophie Black Lance Brother
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Drasked
North Face Force
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: Drasked on 14/03/2007 11:01:55
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Drakma
Originally by: Shin Ra summary plz
In a nutshell:
Virtuozzo is a big fat meany.
I hope for you you're Dutch Drakma, cause in the rest of the world the **** you're smoking is illegal. Your story isn't even coherent. Can you point out where Virt allegedly tells you to move out of Feyth? All I see is some hypotheticals being thrown around about what happens if RA pulls out of the war, and that is assuming you didn't just fake the chatlogs.
It's actually not legal to smoke cr4ck in the netherlands.
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun One chat log aint enough tbh.
The Swarm's interests in the matter begin and end with the chatlog and the rumor Virtuozzo has been busy propogating to other allied entities. As I said earlier in this thread, the chatlog doesn't show that he's a spy per se, it merely shows Virtuozzo actively spreading harmful and laughably inept lies about GS/RA. I particularly liked the 'Dianabolic was on their TS when I went to bed' line, which shows that this farce was created by Virtuozzo himself, not a second-hand rumor merely transmitted by him.
Whether he's shown to be a BoB spy or just a 'friend' who is actively attempting to monkeywrench us doesn't matter from our perspective, and our response is the same either way. The ASCN-era HC stuff is Drakma's to confirm/deny; I wasn't around back then and don't know the particulars.
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Eron Lygera
Gallente Sharded Awareness
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:28:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Eron Lygera
No matter what, the coalition is down another alliance. As mittani said, Invictus can no longer be trusted with capital ops...
BoB alts/pets don't decide whether the Coalition is down another alliance TYVM.
While I can't speak for the alliance as a whole, I intend to fight BoB for as long as it takes to take them down.
As for not being trusted with capital ops, I doubt we ever were (stuff like this should be on a need-to-know basis, and IMO we are nowhere near a position of need-to-know). And thankfully AAA/RAGOON are far beyond needing any help in shredding BoB dreadfleets as they have proven this week, so I am not worried about that either.
No matter WHAT happened here, or how much BS it is. Damage has been done. You ARE yelling at eachother. Atleast admit that. How can you possibly trust a coalition partner that apparently spits out lies about one of your own guys?
Ps. Dont nerf WCS! |

Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:31:00 -
[119]
Originally by: The Mittani
Originally by: Laythun One chat log aint enough tbh.
The Swarm's interests in the matter begin and end with the chatlog and the rumor Virtuozzo has been busy propogating to other allied entities. As I said earlier in this thread, the chatlog doesn't show that he's a spy per se, it merely shows Virtuozzo actively spreading harmful and laughably inept lies about GS/RA. I particularly liked the 'Dianabolic was on their TS when I went to bed' line, which shows that this farce was created by Virtuozzo himself, not a second-hand rumor merely transmitted by him.
Whether he's shown to be a BoB spy or just a 'friend' who is actively attempting to monkeywrench us doesn't matter from our perspective, and our response is the same either way. The ASCN-era HC stuff is Drakma'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaround back then and don't know the particulars.
Not sure why you assume the chatlog is even real, considering how easily they can be faked. -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft. |

The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.14 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Malachon Draco
Not sure why you assume the chatlog is even real, considering how easily they can be faked.
Absolutely correct, sir. And if we hadn't caught him saying the same line about GS/RA to FREGE (who are on the other side of the galaxy with no connection to GKK or Metacannibal) we'd have done nothing. It's that second-source confirmation that clinches it.
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