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Raznarok Fate.	Posted - 2007.03.14 11:37:00 - [121] This is a really funny subject. GG
Tudor Minmatar Revolt	Posted - 2007.03.14 11:39:00 - [122] Edited by: Tudor on 14/03/2007 11:37:05 [ 2007.03.14 10:52:18 ] Virtuozzo > lol at the forum, they are lamers. [ 2007.03.14 10:52:45 ] Tudor > lol. yes but why all the drama ? [ 2007.03.14 10:53:22 ] Virtuozzo > because some know who i really am, putting up a spin now with an alt.. :) more drama ?
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.14 11:50:00 - [123] Originally by: The Mittani I particularly liked the 'Dianabolic was on their TS when I went to bed' line, so he talks with his enemy whats the harm in there? Don't be a great man just be a man
Victor Merren The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 11:51:00 - [124] Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Laythun One chat log aint enough tbh. Whether he's shown to be a BoB spy or just a 'friend' who is actively attempting to monkeywrench us doesn't matter from our perspective, and our response is the same either way. Whatever Virt did (if indeed the chatlog was intact and complete) was not directed at RAGOONS. Each alliance in the coalition also has its own interests in mind and will jostle for position of power the best they can. Mittani, do not ignore this fact, it is evidently obvious. KB acted to pursue their own interests over anyone else's, hence the original post by Drakma. They are trying to improve their own position and status in the eyes or RAGOONs by smearing a current ally and a future potential competitor. If smearing was not the the objective, why would Drakma make such an over the top post and accusation on CAOD in the first place? This situation could have been resolved in private, if it indeed took place. Cheers, V.
TrippyX Caldari The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 11:58:00 - [125] IT'S ALL TRUE!! I TELL YA!!! IT'S ALL TRUE!!!!!! ____________________ I ♥ [TSYND]
The Mittani GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.14 12:01:00 - [126] Edited by: The Mittani on 14/03/2007 12:01:23 Originally by: killerco Originally by: The Mittani I particularly liked the 'Dianabolic was on their TS when I went to bed' line, so he talks with his enemy whats the harm in there? Virt claims he witnessed a meeting on RA TS with Dianabolic when no such meeting occured. Virt claims that Nync and Remedial had a fight at a time when both were out of game. Virt claims that the Swarm owes RA isk, which is laffo in the extreme if you actually know anything about RSF. Virt claims that since RA/GS are breaking apart, GKK should just get out of Feyth and not bother fighting BoB. All of this is *****s, and all of it counts as 'actively working against our strategic interests'. So he gets in hot water when he tells the same tall tale to two independent sources and it gets back to us. Quote:** KB acted to pursue their own interests over anyone else's, hence the original post by Drakma. They are trying to improve their own position and status in the eyes or RAGOONs by smearing a current ally and a future potential competitor. Two sources, with nothing to do with each other, on other sides of the galaxy. Same tall tale from Virt. This isn't a GKK thing or a FREGE thing, this is a 'Virt got caught' thing.
Havras The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 12:03:00 - [127] Originally by: The Mittani In our previous dealing with Virtuozzo he's come off like a pathological liar, or a guy who's trying to worm his way into power. He also did such a bad job of leading ASCN after Cyvok left that one would have to suspect foul play. There were confirmed leaks from ASCN HC back during the war, and the HC only contained five guys at the time of the leaks. Very narrow pool to find a spy in. At any rate. INVICTUS can't be trusted with coalition capital ops because either 1. Virtuozzo is a BoB spy or 2. Virtuozzo is explicitly running around behind the scenes telling blatant, harmful lies about us and our relationship with RA. Either way, we can't trust Virt, and thus them. The Swarm doesn't have anything against IXC and hold that the responsibility for this lies solely with Virtuozzo, not anyone under his auspices. Sorry about not connecting the dots more explicitly earlier! Look.. I'm not a huge Fan of some of the decisions Virt has made since the fall of ASCN but you haven't connected jack with squat. How exactly was Virt a BOB spy in ASCN HC when he was out ofthe bloody game after an auto accident for so much of the war? And your statement about how he ran ASCN after Cyvok bailed... LOL. Eve's best Tactician couldn't have saved ASCN from imploding at the point when Virt got handed the reigns. We had no serious capital fleet left, we had almost no fighting resources left at that point. He held it together longer then anyone else could have. Now as to the "supposed" spy proof you guys have offered.. lol. You have NO f'ing clue, and will never have one, unless you were in some of the conversations with Virt on TS about the BOB/ASCN war just how bad the blood is there.
Victor Merren The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 12:15:00 - [128] Originally by: The Mittani Edited by: The Mittani on 14/03/2007 12:01:23 Originally by: killerco Originally by: The Mittani I particularly liked the 'Dianabolic was on their TS when I went to bed' line, so he talks with his enemy whats the harm in there? Quote: KB acted to pursue their own interests over anyone else's, hence the original post by Drakma. They are trying to improve their own position and status in the eyes or RAGOONs by smearing a current ally and a future potential competitor. Two sources, with nothing to do with each other, on other sides of the galaxy. Same tall tale from Virt. This isn't a GKK thing or a FREGE thing, this is a 'Virt got caught' thing. Mittani: FREGE are our current neighbours - recently blue. Feyth, specifically the RIT triangle is where the current IVC lived and built outposts. I am not going to speculate any more on the reasons since I am not privy to them, but yes there is a connection, however tenuous it may seem. Cheers, V.
Aberash eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 12:51:00 - [129] Originally by: Fitz Chivalry This is just ridiculous. I have known Virt for 2 years and have never once had reason to believe that he was a bob spy. Someone that loves the politics and drama and being all machievellian? Yes. Someone that might have got some bad intell? Yes. Someone that is trying to undermine the coalition? No. . The man speaks truth, Drakma this is seriously dissapointing, I've known virt for a long time he is a good man and making this topic is an insult to both Virt and all of IXC, BoB are our enemies and always will be, we would like to support the coalition as best as we can, by making this post your just ****ing off more "anti-bob" members.
Doggsbody Lame Duck Logistics	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:07:00 - [130] What a humiliation for the coallition. We all suspected there was infighting, but to smear it all over the forums, and with so little supporting evidence? This kind of forum screeching has done immeasurable damage to the bandwagoneers by exposing the petty attitude of its command, and exposing its internal weaknesses to the entire eve community. What a difference a week makes eh? A week ago they had a lot to crow about, now we're seeing the wheels come off already... I can only imagine the blazing rows taking place on your own forums, and the morale damage to your members.
Victor Merren The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:12:00 - [131] Originally by: Doggsbody I can only imagine the blazing rows taking place on your own forums, and the morale damage to your members. Lol at the appropriately named BoB alt. Not quite, been very quiet. Oh actually, yes you are right: The end is nigh! Run for the hills, run for the hills! Cheers, V.
Zatho Caldari STK Scientific INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:13:00 - [132] Drakma likes the*****.
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:15:00 - [133] Originally by: Doggsbody What a humiliation for the coallition. We all suspected there was infighting, but to smear it all over the forums, and with so little supporting evidence? This kind of forum screeching has done immeasurable damage to the bandwagoneers by exposing the petty attitude of its command, and exposing its internal weaknesses to the entire eve community. What a difference a week makes eh? A week ago they had a lot to crow about, now we're seeing the wheels come off already... I can only imagine the blazing rows taking place on your own forums, and the morale damage to your members. Funny how many "Logistics" corps started to post since BoB's forum squad's on a leash The fact that we think that Virt is acting VERY weird doesn't mean that we think all of IXC are suddenly bad boys. But you can't ignore that spewing around false intel to cause trouble is incredibly lame and something I wouldn't have expected Virt to do. About the coalition falling apart...sure, we're all dead, we just don't know it yet _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:16:00 - [134] I'm paid by BoB like my ally mates. At least one guy said so. ___________ Muuuhhh !!!
Redbad Minmatar Be Inspired Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:16:00 - [135] Politics. You never know whats going on 'till they run away with your wallet. join us today!
Lunas Feelgood Maza Nostra RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:16:00 - [136] Edited by: Lunas Feelgood on 14/03/2007 13:14:00 Originally by: Doggsbody What a humiliation for the coallition. We all suspected there was infighting, but to smear it all over the forums, and with so little supporting evidence? This kind of forum screeching has done immeasurable damage to the bandwagoneers by exposing the petty attitude of its command, and exposing its internal weaknesses to the entire eve community. What a difference a week makes eh? A week ago they had a lot to crow about, now we're seeing the wheels come off already... I can only imagine the blazing rows taking place on your own forums, and the morale damage to your members. Cant the BOB alts atleats try to stay more hidden..Isnt that the hole purpose by using an alt??
Mog Carns United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:25:00 - [137] Originally by: Victor Merren They are trying to improve their own position and status in the eyes of RAGOONs V. Being on the same general side against a common enemy is one thing...
Malachon Draco eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:28:00 - [138] Originally by: Doggsbody What a humiliation for the coallition. We all suspected there was infighting, but to smear it all over the forums, and with so little supporting evidence? This kind of forum screeching has done immeasurable damage to the bandwagoneers by exposing the petty attitude of its command, and exposing its internal weaknesses to the entire eve community. What a difference a week makes eh? A week ago they had a lot to crow about, now we're seeing the wheels come off already... I can only imagine the blazing rows taking place on your own forums, and the morale damage to your members. Wishful thinking much BoB-alt? This changes nothing. We will still shoot BoB, perhaps even more so and sooner than we planned just to show that whatever we are, we are in no way friendly or even neutral to BoB or their slaves. And we still do not shoot our fellow coalition members over stuff like this, regardless of what you might hope. All your pathetic comments make no difference for our intentions and objectives. -------------- In completely unrelated news, after careful research, the Guiding Hand Social Club concludes that no member of the Guiding Hand Social Club is guilty of corptheft.
Rochel Hakiri principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.14 13:52:00 - [139] Originally by: Wylker Whos ASCN? Are they some new corp? The only ASCN i've ever heard of is GONE FROM THE GAME. huhu, indeed!11!!~! And the Goons would never have access to 0.0 and RA is death, and so is everbody else!!! for truth!! btw ****er, erm Wylker POST WITH YA FRACKING MAIN !!!
Sceolan eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 14:09:00 - [140] I have known Virt for about a year and a half now and while i know that he loves the politics side of the game, that kind of accusation just causes more people to go and get their tinfoil hats He is a good guy and deserves more than hollow accusations without any solid evidence to back them up. I guarantee that no-one in IXC likes BoB and we will do what we can to make life difficult for them....
INZi coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.03.14 14:10:00 - [141] I SUWWENDER
Asasham Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.03.14 14:25:00 - [142] Little point really since I have no dog in this fight, but I do love to add to tinfoil hattery when possible. Originally by: Havras How exactly was Virt a BOB spy in ASCN HC when he was out ofthe bloody game after an auto accident for so much of the war? A post from the ASCN/BoB war on 10/28/06 "GNN Breaking News" Originally by: DB Preacher aha finally! sorry to post offtopic but this is the only access i can get.. can someone please let galavet/dian know that i am in hospital with a broken leg. have broke both tib and fib playing footy and am getting an op to put a pin in tomo,. will be awol for a couple of days without real access. terrible timing but give them hell guys! dbp No idea if that's at all related, but I found it interesting.
File Gallente eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 14:31:00 - [143] Originally by: Asasham Little point really since I have no dog in this fight, but I do love to add to tinfoil hattery when possible. Originally by: Havras How exactly was Virt a BOB spy in ASCN HC when he was out ofthe bloody game after an auto accident for so much of the war? A post from the ASCN/BoB war on 10/28/06 "GNN Breaking News" Originally by: DB Preacher aha finally! sorry to post offtopic but this is the only access i can get.. can someone please let galavet/dian know that i am in hospital with a broken leg. have broke both tib and fib playing footy and am getting an op to put a pin in tomo,. will be awol for a couple of days without real access. terrible timing but give them hell guys! dbp No idea if that's at all related, but I found it interesting. Virt = DB Preacher!? Now I really have heard it all...
Jebidus Skari Amarr S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.	Posted - 2007.03.14 14:33:00 - [144] Originally by: Asasham Little point really since I have no dog in this fight, but I do love to add to tinfoil hattery when possible. Originally by: Havras How exactly was Virt a BOB spy in ASCN HC when he was out ofthe bloody game after an auto accident for so much of the war? A post from the ASCN/BoB war on 10/28/06 "GNN Breaking News" Originally by: DB Preacher aha finally! sorry to post offtopic but this is the only access i can get.. can someone please let galavet/dian know that i am in hospital with a broken leg. have broke both tib and fib playing footy and am getting an op to put a pin in tomo,. will be awol for a couple of days without real access. terrible timing but give them hell guys! dbp No idea if that's at all related, but I found it interesting. My god man! It's the missing link
Semtex'o Minmatar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 14:39:00 - [145] Ok ok I give up. I am SirMolle
Goberth Ludwig The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:10:00 - [146] Originally by: File Originally by: Asasham Little point really since I have no dog in this fight, but I do love to add to tinfoil hattery when possible. Originally by: Havras How exactly was Virt a BOB spy in ASCN HC when he was out ofthe bloody game after an auto accident for so much of the war? A post from the ASCN/BoB war on 10/28/06 "GNN Breaking News" Originally by: DB Preacher aha finally! sorry to post offtopic but this is the only access i can get.. can someone please let galavet/dian know that i am in hospital with a broken leg. have broke both tib and fib playing footy and am getting an op to put a pin in tomo,. will be awol for a couple of days without real access. terrible timing but give them hell guys! dbp No idea if that's at all related, but I found it interesting. Virt = DB Preacher!? Now I really have heard it all... Screw tech II, this is deadspace-grade tinfoil. - Gob
Stockarian eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:14:00 - [147] Drakma, you should know better. I was on the ASCN HC forums too. Nothing EVER gave me any reason to believe Virt was a bob spy...ever. This is bad intel perhaps, but calling Virt a spy is going way over the line. Why on earth you would post something this condemning on CAOD is really beyond comprehension. I would have thought a few evemails and/or convo's would have cleared this nonsense up before you stepped on your yingyang. This whole thread is garbage. Virtuozzo is my friend, corpy, and confidant, he is not a spy. Period. To save time, why don't you avoid the facts and get right to the spin.
mamolian Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:31:00 - [148] Another pounding headache after reading todays replies.. Again interesting tinfoil.. but I'm loosing braincells here.. Enough about f**** spies, WHY! did Virtuozzo take it apon himself to pass on this bad intel? If indeed this part is true? Cut the S* people, and just give us a summary! -------------------------------
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:32:00 - [149] Originally by: Stockarian This whole thread is garbage. Virtuozzo is my friend,, he is not a spy. Period. /signed Now lock this topic and lets get back too the pew pew my friends Don't be a great man just be a man
Edgar Hoover Gallente Jaffa Cake Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.14 15:57:00 - [150] Originally by: mamolian Another pounding headache after reading todays replies.. Again interesting tinfoil.. but I'm loosing braincells here.. Enough about f**** spies, WHY! did Virtuozzo take it apon himself to pass on this bad intel? If indeed this part is true? Cut the S* people, and just give us a summary! The only "evidence" thing I have seen is this so called chat log. First of all who says that chat log is the whole convo? Second who says the entire chat log is 100% genuine? Third Drakma yells virt is a spy but does not presents any form of proof. nuff said. Back to veldspar sucking.

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