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Smash Maku Minmatar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 16:35:00 - [151] Damn Dra(k)ma Queen...you're one funny *** LOL. Been a **ty morning needed a good laugh thanks! Nothing more to see here move along...
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.14 16:36:00 - [152] Originally by: Edgar Hoover Originally by: mamolian Another pounding headache after reading todays replies.. Again interesting tinfoil.. but I'm loosing braincells here.. Enough about f**** spies, WHY! did Virtuozzo take it apon himself to pass on this bad intel? If indeed this part is true? Cut the S* people, and just give us a summary! The only "evidence" thing I have seen is this so called chat log. First of all who says that chat log is the whole convo? Second who says the entire chat log is 100% genuine? Third Drakma yells virt is a spy but does not presents any form of proof. nuff said. Back to veldspar sucking. no idea about virt and spies and whatnot... just wanted to say your name should have Strategos's piccy 4tw Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Assassa Minmatar Fuels Of Armageddon	Posted - 2007.03.14 16:38:00 - [153] I understand the concern on trying to find spies... But this is just borderline paranoia. Chat log, even if guenuine can be taken out of context. This is like watching CNN, strong images, but out of context and making a whole story around those same picture: result, very believable, since there are "proofs" since we are told they are. /me put the tinfoil hat... What is your interrest on trying to break the coalition in this fashion btw? BoB paid you for that? For such a "patriot" you certainly not doing a good job at uniting the coalition...
Aberash eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 16:45:00 - [154] Originally by: Asasham Little point really since I have no dog in this fight, but I do love to add to tinfoil hattery when possible. Originally by: Havras How exactly was Virt a BOB spy in ASCN HC when he was out ofthe bloody game after an auto accident for so much of the war? So someone broke a leg, and someone else was in a car crash, OMG PROOF IVE BEEN IN A CORP WITH DB PREACHER ALL THIS TIME A post from the ASCN/BoB war on 10/28/06 "GNN Breaking News" Originally by: DB Preacher aha finally! sorry to post offtopic but this is the only access i can get.. can someone please let galavet/dian know that i am in hospital with a broken leg. have broke both tib and fib playing footy and am getting an op to put a pin in tomo,. will be awol for a couple of days without real access. terrible timing but give them hell guys! dbp No idea if that's at all related, but I found it interesting.
TrippyX Caldari The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 16:57:00 - [155] I think Drakma is just jealous of Virt that he didn't get handed leadership of ASCN when his buddy CYVOK ran for the hills.. IT'S ALL TRUE!!!! ____________________ I ♥ [TSYND]
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.14 17:03:00 - [156] Originally by: TrippyX I think Drakma is just jealous of Virt that he didn't get handed leadership of ASCN when his buddy CYVOK ran for the hills.. IT'S ALL TRUE!!!! _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
Havras The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 17:21:00 - [157] Originally by: Asasham Little point really since I have no dog in this fight, but I do love to add to tinfoil hattery when possible. Originally by: Havras How exactly was Virt a BOB spy in ASCN HC when he was out ofthe bloody game after an auto accident for so much of the war? A post from the ASCN/BoB war on 10/28/06 "GNN Breaking News" Originally by: DB Preacher aha finally! sorry to post offtopic but this is the only access i can get.. can someone please let galavet/dian know that i am in hospital with a broken leg. have broke both tib and fib playing footy and am getting an op to put a pin in tomo,. will be awol for a couple of days without real access. terrible timing but give them hell guys! dbp No idea if that's at all related, but I found it interesting. Heh.. Not really. Virt's accident was much later.. about a month I believe.
Semtex'o Minmatar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 17:29:00 - [158] Edited by: Semtex''o on 14/03/2007 17:37:59 We can no longer deny the fact of a spy among us. As proof I present this picture.
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.14 17:39:00 - [159] Originally by: Semtex'o We can no longer deny the fact of a spy among us. As proof I present this picture. Hehe Don't be a great man just be a man
Thoric Frosthammer The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 17:40:00 - [160] Virt can't be the BoB spy dammit, I was supposed to be the BoB spy this week, it's my turn. Can't anyone keep a schedule straight?
laotse shangdi	Posted - 2007.03.14 17:47:00 - [161] Originally by: Semtex'o Edited by: Semtex''o on 14/03/2007 17:37:59 We can no longer deny the fact of a spy among us. As proof I present this picture. so true 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.14 17:59:00 - [162] Originally by: Thoric Frosthammer Virt can't be the BoB spy dammit, I was supposed to be the BoB spy this week, it's my turn. Can't anyone keep a schedule straight? Didn't you receive the new schedule? Don't be a great man just be a man
Metacannibal Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.14 17:59:00 - [163] Originally by: Semtex'o Edited by: Semtex''o on 14/03/2007 17:37:59 We can no longer deny the fact of a spy among us. As proof I present this picture. i do have eyes that blue, now wtf is the spy irlº$"º%&"$&
McDan Orbital Fleet	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:08:00 - [164] Edited by: McDan on 14/03/2007 18:05:03 Originally by: The Mittani Virt claims he witnessed a meeting on RA TS with Dianabolic when no such meeting occured. Virt claims that Nync and Remedial had a fight at a time when both were out of game. Virt claims that the Swarm owes RA isk, which is laffo in the extreme if you actually know anything about RSF. Virt claims that since RA/GS are breaking apart, GKK should just get out of Feyth and not bother fighting BoB. How do you know that he did not witness a meeting on RA TS? If I was holding such a meeting then I would be unlikely to tell you. If itÆs because RA told you so then you simply believe it to be true and you do not know it to be true. But hey, keep it up. At this rate you will have no allies by the end of the month.
Harlequinn Caldari Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:09:00 - [165] More Speculation than fact? Check. Any juicy bits like espionage and betrayal? Check. Dramabomb? Check. Could it be handled more effectively on internal forums and evemails other than publicly? Check. Does it implicate a some party and drag his otherwise good name through the mud based on someone else's opinion? Check. Does it have vague chatlogs or pictures that require a jump to a preconceived conclusion to be called substantial proof? Check. Straight to the eve-pwn forums! Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Erges Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:14:00 - [166] Edited by: Erges on 14/03/2007 18:10:53 Originally by: Harlequinn More Speculation than fact? Check. Any juicy bits like espionage and betrayal? Check. Dramabomb? Check. Could it be handled more effectively on internal forums and evemails other than publicly? Check. Does it implicate a some party and drag his otherwise good name through the mud based on someone else's opinion? Check. Does it have vague chatlogs or pictures that require a jump to a preconceived conclusion to be called substantial proof? Check. Straight to the eve-pwn forums! You are all clueless? Check
Harlequinn Caldari Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:19:00 - [167] Originally by: Erges Edited by: Erges on 14/03/2007 18:10:53 You are all clueless? Check Right, because Virt being a Bob plant makes so much sense. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Goberth Ludwig The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:20:00 - [168] Originally by: Erges Edited by: Erges on 14/03/2007 18:10:53 Originally by: Harlequinn More Speculation than fact? Check. Any juicy bits like espionage and betrayal? Check. Dramabomb? Check. Could it be handled more effectively on internal forums and evemails other than publicly? Check. Does it implicate a some party and drag his otherwise good name through the mud based on someone else's opinion? Check. Does it have vague chatlogs or pictures that require a jump to a preconceived conclusion to be called substantial proof? Check. Straight to the eve-pwn forums! You are all clueless? Check Then enlighten us, really if we are clueless please feed us the missing parts or this whole thread is nothing but a tribute to the good old tinfoilhattery of the ascn days. Perhaps you guys are nostalgic? - Gob
Erges Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:21:00 - [169] Originally by: Harlequinn Originally by: Erges Edited by: Erges on 14/03/2007 18:10:53 You are all clueless? Check Right, because Virt being a Bob plant makes so much sense. Well bob did did try to get us to back down by giving us pet status.....guess this is just another trick they trying to pull.
EMTsNightmare Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:21:00 - [170] Originally by: Harlequinn Originally by: Erges Edited by: Erges on 14/03/2007 18:10:53 You are all clueless? Check Right, because Virt being a Bob plant makes so much sense. yeah i don't see Virt being very green and leafy with a couple flowers That's just retarded!
010001101011	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:25:00 - [171] Originally by: Erges Originally by: Harlequinn Originally by: Erges Edited by: Erges on 14/03/2007 18:10:53 You are all clueless? Check Right, because Virt being a Bob plant makes so much sense. Well bob did did try to get us to back down by giving us pet status.....guess this is just another trick they trying to pull. And this has to do with Virt being a BoB spy? Sorry don't see the link.
011010001010	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:32:00 - [172] we all know CYVOK is the real leak..
Semtex'o Minmatar eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:38:00 - [173] Originally by: Daald Screw it. I'll throw my 2 cents. There was a known HC leak. It was discovered during the time that only these people had access: CYVOK DANARI Gilbert Virt Ad John Two of those people left and the leak continued so that rules out Danari and Ad. The list is now very short. And again there are a few more left so why should it be virt still not solid proof. WTB Gist X-Type Tinfoil hat
Harlequinn Caldari Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:38:00 - [174] On the serious note this does remind me of the overreaction and shadow-jumping that used to appear on the ASCN forums all the time. I'm just surprised that Drakma handled this situation like this with someone I would've considered him to be good friends with. If I were in his shoes I would've discussed the intel and relevant chat logs with Virt first and at least given him a chance to defend himself rather than take it to the court of eve-pwn. I was pretty sure that Drakama was mostly a reasonable guy (other than the join us or die thing), so it surprises me to see this presented in this way, especially when Virt has been such a stand up individual for so long and the proof isn't really enough for anyone who hasn't gotten it in their head that Virt is a BoB spy, to be convinced of it. Misunderstanding, bad or mixed up intel maybe, but I doubt it being a spy. Especially when I had heard many in BoB were pretty upset about Virt going back on his agreement with bob to not be hostile to them after he left Feyth. But meh, I guess it's really none of my business. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Daald Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:39:00 - [175] Edited by: Daald on 14/03/2007 18:46:41 Correction: He tried to contact him first but was not able to do so. -----------------------------
Harlequinn Caldari Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:50:00 - [176] Originally by: Daald He did discuss it with Virt first. And I guess Virt said: "Yup Drak, you got me! I'm a spy, always have been. Better post it on EvE-O so everyone knows.." If not, why not present the other side of it? Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Geeknik eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:52:00 - [177] Originally by: Daald Two of those people left and the leak continued so that rules out Danari and Ad. The list is now very short. Given the way the ASCN forums were run, are you sure anyone's access was ever removed? Even if it was, the fact that he was on the short list is hardly conclusive evidence.
Goberth Ludwig The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:54:00 - [178] Its great to see that behind the new cool sigs and leet japanese corp name the spirit of ascn lives on /me salutes - Gob
Daald Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:55:00 - [179] Originally by: Geeknik Given the way the ASCN forums were run, are you sure anyone's access was ever removed? Even if it was, the fact that he was on the short list is hardly conclusive evidence. The high command area of the forums was very tightly watched. This was not like the general area where even my cat had access. -----------------------------
konkord eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.03.14 18:55:00 - [180] Right this is what I dont get. Being part of invictus, and someone whom whilst not CEO of IXC has a large influence over it - he has always encouraged throughout ASCN days and now through to invictus to shoot kill and maim bobbits targets. This continues even now. I tell you what drakky baby (can I call you that? good thanks) Virt and I dont always get on, I am indeed the thorn in eXceeds a$$ from the inside and I havent always agreed with his approach, but he has got to be the most intelligent and politically minded bloke in eve at the moment. When I was a director in IXC in ASCN we spoke at length all the time and his target was always the same - Kill BoB. Now, the man has many fingers in many pies i admit. And it wouldnt suprise me if he has an alt in BoB HC or somewhat up their in the hierachy.... but the man hours this bloke has put into 'building the ASCN dream' categorically removes him from this rediculous claim. There is simply no sense in investing upto 20hours a day (and sometimes more) in organising 6 hour logistic runs 3 times a week for a month, building outposts, churning out carriers for ASCN pilots at cheep cheep prices... .... look drakma. You know what he did, you know what he built and you know what he stands for. I look like a right fanboi but those who know me (granted not many on these peenboards) realise im not like that. But trying to pin this on virt? I think you picked up the vodka instead of the water when you wrote this. Have a word. With yourself. ---------------------- Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])

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