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Wykkya
Evil Proctologists
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:13:00 -
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The title pretty much sums up the statement. As more chest beating bravado, suppositions ranging from wild speculation to innuendo, unfounded accusations and preciously entertaining tinfoil hattery being posted, all with the intention of derailing the BoB reputation. An impartial observer would be hard pressed to not read between the lines and conclude that not only is BoB feared, but also they are the pre-eminent force in EvE.
The sheer number of BoB threads created by anti-Bobbits is astounding. Frankly speaking, the campaign to discredit BoB is laughable. perhaps if there was a meaningful, guided and controlled series of announcements, the effort would be successful. But from this person's point of view the campaign has been only a laughable, very entertaining series of reads that only discredit the posters and many of the board warriors.
Im sure many would give a rats fart for what I post, but I'm sure the rabid nature of these ungentlefolk will bleed true thru their supposed facades.
And for those wanting to say "who are you?" I'd expected much more from you. Afterall, you are the awesome pwning macho board warriors no?
You would do well to learn a thing or three about discretion, honor and where and when to spread disinformation.
It would appear, that BoB has managed to engineer you nere-gents into doing their work for them.
Oh the irony, oh the humanity. Och! I wont ask to keep it coming cause you cant help yourselves. 
~wykk
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Obijameskenobi
Caldari Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Miners With Attitude
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Obijameskenobi on 14/03/2007 12:13:50 1st in a BoB thread. edited: its a game........
One BoB to rule them all One Pet to find them One BoB to own them all And in the darkness bind them |

Anaximander Monk
Mandala Group
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:22:00 -
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I'm "anti-bob", but I've probably ganked some coalition in low sec because aswell as being "anti-bob", I'm "anti-life" or as we in the industry prefer, "pro-death".
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:28:00 -
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To the OP: It doesn't really matter what smack is posted here. All that matters is what happens in game.
If Band of Brothers win ingame, they win. If they lose, they lose. No amount of forum smack will change the outcome, nor will whining about the forum smack, or whining about whining about the forum smack... 
--23 Member--
EVE-Trance Radio--The EVE Textboard |

Masochistic Cannibal
Amarr Ghosts Of Genesis
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:45:00 -
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TBH, I dont think it matters what members of the coalition say about BoB anymore.
BoB's reputation is permanently destroyed, They will allways be labbelled as cheaters and exploiters for as long as their alliance is in exhistance.
Losing ships cannot on it's own cannot break an alliance.... Breaking it's moral CAN.
BoB's damage controll attempt at the moment is a blanket CAOD ban for all members (But not their alt's... CLEARLY) as to not add more fuel to the fire and in a vain attempt to draw a bad light on the Coalition who then appear to be smacktards. Sadly I dont think it matters. Comments such as below are probably going to be far more humerous and meaningfull to the masses.
"Nice Dev, We'll take him"
Cannibal
I eat babies ! [Hauling services available~ Contact ingame] |

dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.03.14 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 14/03/2007 12:49:11
Originally by: Dark Shikari To the OP: It doesn't really matter what smack is posted here. All that matters is what happens in game.
If Band of Brothers win ingame, they win. If they lose, they lose. No amount of forum smack will change the outcome, nor will whining about the forum smack, or whining about whining about the forum smack... 
Uhuu? As you're a prominent FIXian I'd say that you're quite proficient in the art of actually losing ingame wars, but through joint forum operations with your allies still proclaim yourself as winners. How does that rhyme with your post?
On the subject... Of course any 'neutral' will see very obvious flaws in both BoB and 'the coalition' - as well as understand that you can't really 'win' such a war as this one (more like just achieve objectives).
Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me |

Shinoobie
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:17:00 -
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I take it the OP has never been present when the BoB Smackwagon is in full swing in local? ______________________________________________
*snip* I just cut off your testies! -Eldo |

Sadist
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:20:00 -
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As with all forum actions, this has no effect on the game whatsoever. тттттттттттт
VIP member of the [23]
Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
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R'adeh
Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:22:00 -
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BoB didn't stop posting on these forums. Just look at how many new "Logistic" corps popped up since they stopped posting...it's a mere corp ticker change   _______________________________________________
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Wykkya I wont ask to keep it coming cause you cant help yourselves.
Considering that your whole post is a crude attempt to inspire such comments, no wonder if you get some.
More interesting question is that what do you get out of this post?
-Lasse
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Thon Enay
Spearhead Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: R'adeh BoB didn't stop posting on these forums. Just look at how many new "Logistic" corps popped up since they stopped posting...it's a mere corp ticker change  
Agreed.
Pro BoB names that come to mind that bear no impact on ingame events.....
Wylker Blue Stratos thoth foc
Very provocative, very pro BoB. Who are they and where do they sit in this war? No one knows.....
Very vocal forum jockies.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:41:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 14/03/2007 13:41:45
Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal BoB's reputation is permanently destroyed, They will allways be labbelled as cheaters and exploiters for as long as their alliance is in exhistance.
The same can be said for Goonswarm, D2, the Red Alliance and AAA. How exactly does this "destroyed" reputation have any effect in the game? -----
$Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++; |

Aphotic Raven
Gallente E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: R'adeh BoB didn't stop posting on these forums. Just look at how many new "Logistic" corps popped up since they stopped posting...it's a mere corp ticker change  
I love the ones with BoB sigs that post stupid crap... and you have no idea if its an alt or a really obsessed fanboi...
Originally by: Dr Cupid Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal Edited by: Masochistic Cannibal on 14/03/2007 12:43:31 TBH, I dont think it matters what people say about the Goonies and RA anymore.
The goonie's and RA's reputation is permanently destroyed, They will allways be labbelled as cheaters and exploiters for as long as their alliance is in exhistance.
Cannibal
Fixed. The Goonies and RA will never get over the problems with their past behavior. Or even their current behavior.
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Davey Locke
VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:51:00 -
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LOL..I just had to post...love the corp name. You and Backdoor should form an alliance. 
I'm sorry the OP is amused by the current amount of chest beating, etc posted over recent weeks. TBH, I think he has to understand (just incase his main isn't totally in the picture) that most characters in EVE have worked very hard to get where we all are today. The whole experience from beta to now has been paved with opportunities and achievements and when such opportunities arise ofcourse we want to tell the community.
Unlike some other characters in EVE....we weren't given anything...but thats been covered(over) a million times.
Discretion and honor have never been earnt on these forums and never will...and where and when to spread disinformation... ... may i suggest you stick to your corps field of expertise and not try.
Thanks for a post that put a grin on my face and sadly reminded me how great EVE once was.
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Cpt Pugwash
BURN EDEN GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:55:00 -
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Lets assume for now that you are not a Bob alt trying to stir up trouble.
You clearly have not experienced Bob and all their glory. Their lieing, cheating backstabbing and generally treating non Bob entities like dirt.
Examples of shooting blues without warning are many, such as 2 occasions in Fountain, once in April 2004 (Evolution only) when they assisted Xanadu/BIG cease control of Fountain Alliance in a bloody revolution. and again much later when they turned on their former friends in Xanadu/BIG and again shot Fountain Alliance without warning.
Against CFS (ATUK now Dice only) repeatedly attacked CFS, then lied that it was a)not their fault ,b) a missunderstanding when a CFS fleet turned up and withdrew only to return and repeat a few days later.
There are many more examples of Bobs lies and treachory.
Some it would seem like Fix, LV, Xelas and friends are turned on by such treatment. Others have for far to long been to wrapped up in their own concerns to pop their head above the parapet.
Inevitably Bobs transgressions built up and people finally started to take notice. The not to be mentioned incident with the not to be named CCP employee, has if anything only served to muddy the waters in Bobs favour.
Lets look at some easily forgotten facts.
1 Prior to the unfortunate inccident the southern coalition was already steamrollering it's way through the Bob wannbe LV alliance
2 An arrangement was already in place between the Northern "naplanders" (as oposed to Bob being pet Farmers?) and the southern coalition regarding a mutual defence against Bob.
3 Bob kicked off this war by declaring for LV against the southern coalition.
4 The norths response was as a result of arangements made before revelations of said unfortunate inccident.
So now the war is seen as a war on Bod when really it was, is and always will be a war on Bob.
Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
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End Solution
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2007.03.14 13:56:00 -
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lol. who cares.. this thread should be perm locked as of now. nothing but yet another flame bate-
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WhiteSnake
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:17:00 -
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Let me try to find you some reasons that you dont need to be a bob lover in order to fight on their side.
1. easy targets, its much easier to shoot d2 or goons rather bob. 2. dont like roussians, everyone who have fight against them especially AAA knows why. 3. hypocrisy, all the major or minor alliances always trying to get a grip, using exploits or loose game mechanics in order to win (loggofski, loggonski, lagspikes, complex farming, mission farming, npc chaining, ore thieving, ganking, corp thieving etc), only those ones that have never ever did a "trick" can accuse the bob for cheating, and those probalby are playing other games.
envy or jealous is a deadly sin, so dont blaim bob for what you cannot achieve.
before you say again bob-lovers, bob dont like GODS since ever and probably is mutual, but becouse of reason 3, we fight against coalition, we fight with passion, having lot of fun, and if you ask me, the "dark side" have a lot of respect and dedication it is just amazing.
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Masochistic Cannibal
Amarr Ghosts Of Genesis
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Masochistic Cannibal on 14/03/2007 14:27:01
Originally by: Johnny ReeRee
Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal Edited by: Masochistic Cannibal on 14/03/2007 12:43:31 TBH, I dont think it matters what people say about the Goonies and RA anymore.
The goonie's and RA's reputation is permanently destroyed, They will allways be labbelled as cheaters and exploiters for as long as their alliance is in exhistance.
Cannibal
Fixed. The Goonies and RA will never get over the problems with their past behavior. Or even their current behavior.
Goonies cheating ?? proof or stfu tbh.
Their client hack was turned into a "feature" I believe !
As for RA, There's a bit of a difference between RA farming a bugged complex. And a DEV handing out BPO's.
One was a bug in the game, one was blatent cheating by the makers of the game.
Cannibal
I eat babies ! [Hauling services available~ Contact ingame] |

Ras'lot
Caldari Infinite Style Incorporated Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shinoobie I take it the OP has never been present when the BoB Smackwagon is in full swing in local?
What does it matter how much smack BoB ARE CAPABLE OF, fact remains they have put it at a halt. The coalition hasen't, so now BoB arent the ones coming of as crazed pilots on pill, you are... <SIG IS HERE!> I fight for the honor not for the price. |

Karrimdra
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Thon Enay Pro BoB names that come to mind that bear no impact on ingame events.....
Wylker Blue Stratos thoth foc
Very provocative, very pro BoB. Who are they and where do they sit in this war? No one knows.....
Very vocal forum jockies.
if you knew thoth, you might know why.
Originally by: Aphotic Raven
Originally by: R'adeh BoB didn't stop posting on these forums. Just look at how many new "Logistic" corps popped up since they stopped posting...it's a mere corp ticker change  
I love the ones with BoB sigs that post stupid crap... and you have no idea if its an alt or a really obsessed fanboi...
or another coalition retard trying to further his own boredom by using anothers sig and posting smack.
Really, its all just a thing of what YOU want to believe as to what ANY post on this section reads like. If you hump bobs leg, you will hump bobs leg. If you like to crash nodes, you'll let goonswarm bugger you. From nothing to something in just one corp!
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Lord XSiV
Amarr The Nine Gates
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal Edited by: Masochistic Cannibal on 14/03/2007 12:43:31 TBH, I dont think it matters what members of the coalition say about BoB anymore.
BoB's reputation is permanently destroyed, They will allways be labbelled as cheaters and exploiters for as long as their alliance is in exhistance.
Losing ships on it's own cannot break an alliance.... Breaking it's moral CAN.
BoB's damage controll attempt at the moment is a blanket CAOD ban for all members (But not their alt's... CLEARLY) as to not add more fuel to the fire and in a vain attempt to draw a bad light on the Coalition who then appear to be smacktards. Sadly I dont think it matters. Comments such as below are probably going to be far more humerous and meaningfull to the masses.
"Nice Dev, We'll take him"
Cannibal
Speak for yourself. No one cares whether you yourself respect them or not or throw around statements regarding 'reputation' like you yourself matter or something.
All that matters is that people in the know, people that matter (i.e. cool kids and company) and each member of the elite entity in regards to what they think.
Your thoughts are insignificant.
Next.
:)
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Johnny ReeRee
The ReeRee Brigade
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal Edited by: Masochistic Cannibal on 14/03/2007 14:27:01
Originally by: Johnny ReeRee
Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal Edited by: Masochistic Cannibal on 14/03/2007 12:43:31 TBH, I dont think it matters what people say about the Goonies and RA anymore.
The goonie's and RA's reputation is permanently destroyed, They will allways be labbelled as cheaters and exploiters for as long as their alliance is in exhistance.
Cannibal
Fixed. The Goonies and RA will never get over the problems with their past behavior. Or even their current behavior.
Goonies cheating ?? proof or stfu tbh.
Their client hack was turned into a "feature" I believe !
As for RA, There's a bit of a difference between RA farming a bugged complex. And a DEV handing out BPO's.
One was a bug in the game, one was blatent cheating by the makers of the game.
Cannibal
I love your fine moral distinctions here. A group of players exploiting for trillions of isk is okay now. ROFL!
As for the goonie thing -- that was clearly a EULA violation. But if the goonies are so sure it wasn't, let's have every goonie who used this hack attest to here openly in forum.
Affirm this statement
"I, (goonie ________), used the portrait pack client hack to obtain extra client functionality that wasn't available to the rest of Eve for months to come."
Come on goonies! If there was nothing at all wrong with it, let's just openly admit who did what and when. Let's put some names and accounts on the line here. What could you have to fear, if there was nothing wrong?
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SentryRaven
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.14 14:52:00 -
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And again another thread derailed into a flamefest \o/
On an unrelated note, and for sure I will get smacked for that to hell and back:
BoB needn't be the only alliances cheating (proof or stfu, meknows). So please, get off that "BoB are cheaters" horse and just say you dont like them for whatever reason you really have, cause your alliance might be cheating as well someplace.
And on an more related note: I am really more frustrated with the amount of Coalition derailed posts than with BoB's "glorious postings" as some people put it.
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Silvestri
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:15:00 -
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This is funny....A Bob post about how many BoB posts there are and the war....ironic. Personally I wouldn't put that rat out and have him waste the fart....and yeah...who are you? A BoB post complaining about BoB posts....this is a good one.... 
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari To the OP: It doesn't really matter what smack is posted here. All that matters is what happens in game.
If Band of Brothers win ingame, they win. If they lose, they lose. No amount of forum smack will change the outcome, nor will whining about the forum smack, or whining about whining about the forum smack... 
careful your logic might cause a node crash
"If you are out to describe the truth, leave elegance to the tailor." -Albert Einstein
Member of the [UTSFAH] corp.
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Wykkya
Evil Proctologists
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:38:00 -
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The one common aspect amongst all alliances is that none of them are comprised of virtuous, honorable and EULA abiding members. I say this blanket statement in the full knowledge that some may be playing completely fairly and rule abiding, BUT most likely are harboring or playing alongside those who have more questionable playstyles.
Those virtuous enough to take offense also should know that the corp ticker you fly not only represents you but it also paints you. So every action of others also impact you. So does the history of those you expel. The corp is forever tainted by its history of those who succumb to the darkside.
So, I again make the blanket statement that no corp and alliance is free of taint. No corp or alliance is better than the other in regards to how and what they will do to achieve success.
The real difference is the current state of political machinations, the public face of those corps and subsequent vox populi.
My original post was made for various reasons...most notably to call attention to the backfiring of the campaign against BoB (this is my opinion and everyone is entitled to one...irrespective to whether you agree with it or not.)
And if what happens on the boards doesn't impact the game, then why so much vitriol, hate and posturing? This calls to light another observation of mine, that it does matter. Since all parties involved are calling for allies and at this stage of the conflict, this can only come from neutral empire denizens, who want to get involved, the ones who may be interested to get involved and those who find themselves unwittingly involved. Like so much oil in the middle east, they represent a pivotal potential to turn the tide of the war.
This is why I say that the antibobbits are helping BoB. Any reasonable non simpleton can read the postings and discover that BoB, for all its past SEEMS a better choice than any of its competitors.
Thusly, I am branded a BoB alt. Sobeit. I have been offered many postings to various corps on both sides of the conflict. I can only judge based on what I know and have seen for the past 14 months. And of course, will make my choices privately.
As for the forum warriors, take my OP as constructive criticism. But I wont hold my breathe if you accept it as such. Horse to water and all that...
~wykk
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Jarling Fang
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.03.14 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Wykkya As more chest beating bravado, suppositions ranging from wild speculation to innuendo, unfounded accusations and preciously entertaining tinfoil hattery being posted by BoB alts posing as impartial observers, all with the intention of derailing the Coalition reputation.
Fixed that for you, cheers!
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Empyre
Domestic Reform
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Posted - 2007.03.14 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: Empyre on 14/03/2007 16:08:15
Originally by: Masochistic Cannibal Edited by: Masochistic Cannibal on 14/03/2007 12:43:31 TBH, I dont think it matters what members of the coalition say about BoB anymore.
BoB's reputation is permanently destroyed, *snip*
Losing ships on it's own cannot break an alliance.... Breaking it's moral CAN.
BoB's damage controll attempt at the moment is a blanket CAOD ban for all members (But not their alt's... CLEARLY) as to not add more fuel to the fire and in a vain attempt to draw a bad light on the Coalition who then appear to be smacktards. Sadly I dont think it matters. Comments such as below are probably going to be far more humerous and meaningfull to the masses.
"Nice Dev, We'll take him"
Cannibal
Please do not troll. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
says you? lmao.. i always get a kick out of it when people speak for everyone else on the forum. just an FYI, you (and no one else) is the leading authority on how the rest of the community feels.
speaking like this, without specifying it is only your opinion, you're just proving the OPs point. and if even one person in the game disagrees with you, then your statement is false. i don't believe your statement so thats one.
thats not even going into the fact you're disregarding the facts and basically calling the people you pay money to to play the game you are playing liars.
how many times can you stand next to a person outside and tell them the sky is blue before you concede they are blind and move on to avoid wasting any more of your time?
about this long.
*snip* Do not discuss moderation. -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
People argue when their personal views are at odds, whereas a debate is a more formal method of analyzing the angles of an issue |

JabJabVVV
Total Mayhem.
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Posted - 2007.03.14 16:32:00 -
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Edited by: JabJabVVV on 14/03/2007 16:29:26 Just to get this out of the way hopefully: WYKKYA IS NOT AN ALT
Pro BoB perhaps but he is certainly not an alt, I've been in the same corp as him for several months (I fly with an alt in Evil Proctologists) so consider myself to be in a position to judge. If you disagree with the post then say so and try to have a reasoned debate; but to dismiss the post as that of an alt is not only incorrect, it's pathetic. ----------- When I was a n00b, I spake as a n00b, I understood as a n00b, I thought as a n00b: but when I became pr0, I put away n00bish things. |
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