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tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.15 06:06:00 - [91] Edited by: tiller on 15/03/2007 06:03:29 Originally by: Pax Althaleen Edited by: Pax Althaleen on 15/03/2007 05:38:34 Originally by: Silver Sheath The phrases floats to mind, "Don't keep all you eggs in one basket......floating in a room......where pirates with baseball bats are running around screaming YARRR!" Holy **** !!! Now that has got to be the most extreme example I've seen yet of a single loss by one Pilot while Hauling, and while I understand there are probably larger hits out there over time - Geesh what the FLIP was this Guy thinking about travelling this way in Low Sec. FFS, I feel for the Guy(s) (Hauler Pilot and Aggressor) but only due to these Pilots' losses and not for any type of sympathy on HOW it happened. I mean We all pretty much can or should guess the following about travelling with this much Value in the Cargo Hold... Rule 1 - NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER - EVER - Travel with that much PURE ISK VALUE in the Cargo Hold - EVER (Not even High Sec). Rule 2 - When in Doubt, please refer to Rule 1. Rule 3 - When travelling through Low Sec and Empire with Valuables, either have friends and/or Alts advance scout the route ahead for You to notify You of any potential Camps and Ganks along the way. Rule 4 - If possible, try to take alternate routes and multiple trips to accomplish this as someone else has already said, "Don't keep all your eggs in one basket......floating in a room......where pirates with baseball bats are running around screaming YARRR!". Once again - Tough deal for both parties... Respectfully, The route he appeared to be taking saved him about 10 jumps on the way to Jita, the only negative side of this new route was it had 4 low sec jumps. Still... your 100% safe in a fast warping stabbed up Viator
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.03.15 06:08:00 - [92] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Not impressive? $4000 is more than most farmers will make in YEARS. If I had killed that ship, I'd still be crying uncontrollably at the loss. The Value was well over 20b isk. Imo, it's over 25b, closer to 30. What I'm trying to say is... tiller, you just blew up your mealticket for a mothership. Yes. NOT impressive. A highsec manic miner could produce over 100 mil a day per account (3 bil per month). A mission-running farmer could rake in 200 mil a day per account with ease (or 6 bil per month). A sweatshop 0.0 ratting op (you know, the kind you keep hearing people complain about) could net you 400 mil a day (12 bil per month). Ok, so this guy appears to have been a complex farmer rather as any of the aforementioned distasteful ISK revenue methods. Assuming this guy (or this guy's op boss, whatever) was farming 5 complexes, YOU CAN notice how neatly arranged the overseer effects are... and the other stuff inside gives you a nice hint as to WHAT complexes he farmed. Even assuming he farmed them only once a day, you are looking at this farmer's MONTHLY income, at best. Or more likely, at his partial monthly income. _ MySkills \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
Teron D'Amun Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.15 06:32:00 - [93] so much complex stuff must have been an RA alt :tinfoilhat:
Ender Fal Caldari Bastage Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.15 07:08:00 - [94] I wondered where the low and slowly rising scream of NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! came from from earlier today.
Proon	Posted - 2007.03.15 07:10:00 - [95] Did you get the pod?
Pax Althaleen Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.15 07:18:00 - [96] Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 15/03/2007 06:03:29 Originally by: Pax Althaleen Edited by: Pax Althaleen on 15/03/2007 05:38:34 Originally by: Silver Sheath The phrases floats to mind, "Don't keep all you eggs in one basket......floating in a room......where pirates with baseball bats are running around screaming YARRR!" Holy ** !!! Now that has got to be the most extreme example I've seen yet of a single loss by one Pilot while Hauling, and while I understand there are probably larger hits out there over time - Geesh what the FLIP was this Guy thinking about travelling this way in Low Sec. FFS, I feel for the Guy(s) (Hauler Pilot and Aggressor) but only due to these Pilots' losses and not for any type of sympathy on HOW it happened. I mean We all pretty much can or should guess the following about travelling with this much Value in the Cargo Hold... Rule 1 - NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER - EVER - Travel with that much PURE ISK VALUE in the Cargo Hold - EVER (Not even High Sec). Rule 2 - When in Doubt, please refer to Rule 1. Rule 3 - When travelling through Low Sec and Empire with Valuables, either have friends and/or Alts advance scout the route ahead for You to notify You of any potential Camps and Ganks along the way. Rule 4 - If possible, try to take alternate routes and multiple trips to accomplish this as someone else has already said, "Don't keep all your eggs in one basket......floating in a room......where pirates with baseball bats are running around screaming YARRR!". Once again - Tough deal for both parties... Respectfully, The route he appeared to be taking saved him about 10 jumps on the way to Jita, the only negative side of this new route was it had 4 low sec jumps. Still... your 100% safe in a fast warping stabbed up Viator Uhhhmmm No, It would appear that the "100% safe in a fast warping stabbed up Viator" Myth is now officially dead...R.I.P. Geesh You mean He even plotted a Low Sec course when He could have taken an albeit longer, but Higher Security Route? Well, We all know what they say about a fool and His/Her money... Sooner or later they part ways... Respectfully, Pax Althaleen Holder - House Althaleen**
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.15 07:59:00 - [97] I guess they don't get logoffski-lessons until they're actually in the alliance itself. La famiglia, l'anima, la causa.
B0rn2KiLL DEATHFUNK	Posted - 2007.03.15 08:09:00 - [98] Originally by: Ender Fal I wondered where the low and slowly rising scream of NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! came from from earlier today. hahahahahahahahaha --- Originally by: Oveur It's important to understand that EVE is a "PvP" focused game
Katarina Hetiako Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.03.15 08:23:00 - [99] Why didn't you try a ransom? Yup, I'm an alt... if only you could see my main... he's so strong and tough!
Jouni Kalmar Gallente The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.15 08:27:00 - [100] Edited by: Jouni Kalmar on 15/03/2007 08:26:01 Originally by: Mc Bane why cant cargo holds be made of the same material they make the "black box" out of. If i was the guy that lost this ship i'd much rather it be more like a freighter where everything dies, that way they have the satisfaction of atleast knowing that their attackers got nothing. The way it is now this guys is sitting there thinking... great i've lost x billion... and i've just given these muppets y billion to sell. In his defence though the viator is a damn tough ship, fast too, its not called a blockade runner because its a slow brick, they're actually quite tough and quite fast when setup properlly ofc. Edit: On a side note i really hope for the victims sake that that is just a tiny little slice of his assets because thats the kind of loss that would make alot of people quit the game and who here honestly wants to see that happen?
Jon Hawkes The Littlest Hobos	Posted - 2007.03.15 09:08:00 - [101] Originally by: Katarina Hetiako Why didn't you try a ransom? There's no point in ransoming haulers: just ***** them open and see what is inside. Any hauler pilot who offers to pay a ransom is obviously carrying something EXTREMELY valuable.
Zaethiel Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.15 09:18:00 - [102] I thought it was funny that tiller came into our local a little later and before leaving wished us better luck than he had then we destroyed a hauler (nothign on mail) but dorpped 2 GSC completely full of Tech II gear. We were too busy to check them, until we killed a loot stealing bantam that had looted one of the cans: Victim: XXXXXX Alliance: NONE Corp: (18 das old) Destroyed: Bantam System: XXXXXXX Security: 0.4 Involved parties: Name: Xaeon Security: -10.0 Alliance: Blood Raiders Alliance Corp: Murder-Death-Kill Ship: Lachesis Weapon: Lachesis Name: Zaethiel (laid the final blow) Security: -10.0 Alliance: Blood Raiders Alliance Corp: Murder-Death-Kill Ship: Abaddon Weapon: Mega Pulse Laser II Name: Lenniar Security: -9.5 Alliance: Blood Raiders Alliance Corp: Murder-Death-Kill Ship: Rook Weapon: 'Hypnos' Ion Field ECM I Destroyed items: Armor EM Hardener II, Qty: 5 (Cargo) Dark Blood Capacitor Power Relay (Cargo) Cap Recharger II, Qty: 20 (Cargo) Eutectic I Capacitor Charge Array, Qty: 10 (Cargo) yeah and 5 Enam II survived. Then we found about 1.5 bill isk in stuff in the cans. _________________________________________
Vagra Minmatar DMC Corp	Posted - 2007.03.15 09:23:00 - [103] Originally by: B0rn2KiLL Edited by: B0rn2KiLL on 14/03/2007 18:45:10 Originally by: Ikvar At NPC buy prices, just those 3 stacks of 23rd tier Overseers are 4.6bn. To me it looks like a complex farmer's loot (not naming any alliances here). Oh and Tiller, you know that this loss is going to get petitioned and the new 'we reimburse everything' style of the GM's is going to mean the guy gets all his loot back if he mentions lag? Yeah, you got greifed son NO! dont ruin this for us! that noob was owned, let us enjoy it and laugh at him he was killed by what he will no-doubt say pirates.. which means ... he just got instantly re-imbursed by CCP .. congrates to rules... BUT WHAT A GREAT KILL
Zaethiel Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.15 09:48:00 - [104] Sad to say that CCP does give way too many ships back. Most notebaly they gave a Navy Mega back to someone who got legitimately killed by 6 people. Though he said he lagged and dropped or soemthing i think he probably just logged. _________________________________________
Skystar Gallente Macabre Votum Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2007.03.15 10:02:00 - [105] What an idiot ... Congratz snowcorp, nice kill ... though i'm suprised one manages to lose a viator to 2 pirates ... but how dumb can you be running through lowsec with that kind of cargo ... scouts ftw! -------------------------------------------- Whom the gods love, dies young!
Mextor Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.03.15 10:39:00 - [106] I hope you realize thereÆs a lots kid in china having to work twice as hard now you have done that Also did it drop any phat lewtz ? Full Stats
Ginger Magician Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.15 11:01:00 - [107] Another fine example of the Snowy msstery of piracy tbh.And yes yours truly was there. We are the only pirate camp in Eve where this guy would have lost his ship and yes he was podded as well.I guess he was a bit too shocked to log off this time although it goes without saying that 99% of russian players log off as soon as they are locked at our camps. Since this little effort we have had quite a few red alliance noobs tyring to steal loot from us without success ofc.I guess those paymasters are a bit unhappy with snowy atm. As as a side note while I am here Snowy is still recruiting the famous and not so famous to its ranks.If interested plz join channel 'OCTOBERSNOW' in game for a chat.
Lodhi Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.15 11:03:00 - [108] If it is the guys i think it is, well then that loss aint nothing for em
Ponderous Thunderstroke Minmatar Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.03.15 11:04:00 - [109] Dear. God. "..the horror..." -- Col Walter Kurtz, Apocalypse Now
Ju'Co Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.15 11:18:00 - [110] snip Don't flame. -HornFrog

HornFrog Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.03.15 11:37:00 - [111] Please do not attempt to troll by guessing the nationality of the victim, all it will serve to do is incite flames from others. Email Us

Zaethiel Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.15 11:44:00 - [112] Originally by: Ginger Magician Edited by: Ginger Magician on 15/03/2007 11:05:34 Another fine example of the Snowy msstery of piracy tbh.And yes yours truly was there. We are the only pirate camp in Eve where this guy would have lost his ship and yes he was podded as well. snip Since this little effort we have had quite a few red alliance noobs tyring to steal loot from us without success ofc.I guess those paymasters are a bit unhappy with snowy atm. As a side note while I am here Snowy is still recruiting the famous and not so famous to its ranks.If interested plz join channel 'OCTOBERSNOW' in game for a chat. Please don't troll. -HornFrog As Ju'Co said in one too many words thus getting owned by the Mod. Your not the only pirate corp in Eve and your not the only ones using a sensor boosted ships to catch things. As a matter of fact there have been a lot of people to use such ships even back when you were still exploiting gang membership in high sec to kill mission runners and they will continue to do so even after your gone. It just happens that the viators path to wherever crossed your camp. Call it good luck for you then bad luck after exploding. _________________________________________
Nazgu'l Deviance Inc	Posted - 2007.03.15 11:50:00 - [113] Originally by: Proon Did you get the pod? LMAO! Great job lads! I realy enjoyed reading that kill mail! I hated going to weddings. All the grandmas would poke me saying "You're next". They stopped that when I started doing it to them at funerals.
Ju'Co Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.15 12:20:00 - [114] Originally by: Ginger Magician Edited by: Ginger Magician on 15/03/2007 11:41:03 Edited by: Ginger Magician on 15/03/2007 11:05:34 Another fine example of the Snowy mastery of piracy tbh.And yes yours truly was there. We are the only pirate camp in Eve where this guy would have lost his ship and yes he was podded as well... Gonna mention this again, with a little less flame this time... No your not the "only pirate corp in eve where this guy would lose his ship and pod" Please refrain from using your propaganda wagon while drinking. Sensor boosted lachesis's are nothing new, and your not the only ones using them at gates, hell, im even using a faction fitted/rigged up 9pts of scramble, over 1600scan res one :D Grats/and too bad on the kill, but again, your not the only pirate corp in eve that would have got this guy and his pod...nor are you the "best pirate corp in eve"
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.15 12:23:00 - [115] Originally by: Ju'Co Originally by: Ginger Magician Edited by: Ginger Magician on 15/03/2007 11:41:03 Edited by: Ginger Magician on 15/03/2007 11:05:34 Another fine example of the Snowy mastery of piracy tbh.And yes yours truly was there. We are the only pirate camp in Eve where this guy would have lost his ship and yes he was podded as well... Gonna mention this again, with a little less flame this time... No your not the "only pirate corp in eve where this guy would lose his ship and pod" Please refrain from using your propaganda wagon while drinking. Sensor boosted lachesis's are nothing new, and your not the only ones using them at gates, hell, im even using a faction fitted/rigged up 9pts of scramble, over 1600scan res one :D Grats/and too bad on the kill, but again, your not the only pirate corp in eve that would have got this guy and his pod...nor are you the "best pirate corp in eve" We are recruiting, cya in octobersnow channel
Blue Stratos Amarr BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.03.15 12:24:00 - [116] Edited by: Blue Stratos on 15/03/2007 12:22:23 Edited by: Blue Stratos on 15/03/2007 12:21:17 Im sorry but that is blatent crap, does your corp eve stop craving attention, yes sumone is going to move that ALONE, when that would fit in a battleship or fast moving dictor Your full of **** Oh btw, if ANYONE was gonan move that, they would have an escort U can tell ur mail is faked, oh and BTW, Just to spam ur psot abit mroe, KILLMAILS do nto show the contents of blow up secure containers, whoops on your part er? God your pathetic
tiller OctoberSnow Corp	Posted - 2007.03.15 12:32:00 - [117] Edited by: tiller on 15/03/2007 12:47:09 Quote: Edited by: Blue Stratos on 15/03/2007 12:21:17 snip yes sumone is going to move that ALONE, when that would fit in a battleship or fast moving dictor snip Oh btw, if ANYONE was gonan move that, they would have an escort U can tell ur mail is faked, oh and BTW, Just to spam ur psot abit mroe, KILLMAILS do nto show the contents of blow up secure containers, whoops on your part er? snip Wow..... so much hate, it wasn't your alt was it ? Why would I fake a bunch of stuff exploding. I just thought it was such a expensive cargo people might be interested to read about it. In 2 1/2 years of killing for isk its the biggest value cargo I've ever seen. Maybe I should post about the hauler that we looted worth 3-4bill isk just 12hrs before ?.. you win some you lose some, and in this case we lost alot of potential loot. I don't post about all our kills, in fact the last time I posted about a kill of mine was when I popped a freighter solo at a gate in a raven a year of so back. Again, it was something different at the time (they had only just been released onto market and tanks were not as good back then) and something I thought would be of interest to others. btw, contents of sec cans ALWAYS show in the mails immediately under the secure can item. How do I know this ?, well.. I kill maybe 250 people a week (not because I'm some uber being, just because I'm a evil bastard who knows the game mechs, before anyone flames me) ....Guess that makes me a kill mail expert ?, I certainly have the credentials to claim being one. You on the other hand are just another smacktalker in a SNOWY thread. GRATZ
Zaethiel Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.15 13:57:00 - [118] Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 15/03/2007 12:47:09 Quote: Edited by: Blue Stratos on 15/03/2007 12:21:17 snip yes sumone is going to move that ALONE, when that would fit in a battleship or fast moving dictor snip Oh btw, if ANYONE was gonan move that, they would have an escort U can tell ur mail is faked, oh and BTW, Just to spam ur psot abit mroe, KILLMAILS do nto show the contents of blow up secure containers, whoops on your part er? snip Wow..... so much hate, it wasn't your alt was it ? Why would I fake a bunch of stuff exploding. I just thought it was such a expensive cargo people might be interested to read about it. In 2 1/2 years of killing for isk its the biggest value cargo I've ever seen. Maybe I should post about the hauler that we looted worth 3-4bill isk just 12hrs before ?.. you win some you lose some, and in this case we lost alot of potential loot. I don't post about all our kills, in fact the last time I posted about a kill of mine was when I popped a freighter solo at a gate in a raven a year of so back. Again, it was something different at the time (they had only just been released onto market and tanks were not as good back then) and something I thought would be of interest to others. btw, contents of sec cans ALWAYS show in the mails immediately under the secure can item. How do I know this ?, well.. I kill maybe 250 people a week (not because I'm some uber being, just because I'm a evil bastard who knows the game mechs, before anyone flames me) ....Guess that makes me a kill mail expert ?, I certainly have the credentials to claim being one. You on the other hand are just another smacktalker in a SNOWY thread. GRATZ Tiller is right and i personally can't find any spelling errors spacing errors or incorrect item names. If its a fake mail its a very well made one at that. _________________________________________
Major Stormer Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.15 14:11:00 - [119] Secure cans contents do indeed show up on mails, trust me I know, 3 weeks ago we blew a hauler worth about 4 bil in secure container :( Tell you something, its a good way to go about it, if your going to transport tons and tons of expensive stuff in a hauler, alone, with no scout, though hostile space, then transporting it in a container is the way to go about it :D Originally by: Graalum Thats a caldari juggernaut torpedo fired by an ibis.
Nebuchadnezzar I Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.03.15 14:41:00 - [120] Its not that much, maybe to us mortals, but not to the 10/0 plex farmers (where this clearly comes from). And the guy who said it was fake lol: I've caught/seen these caught in 0.0 alot of times. They operate as small as possible, some will have an alt scout, some of them dont even bother with that. Same with their ammo transports into a 10/10 system. But def way more than 10b :)

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