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Othar en'gilliath
OMNI Technologies Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:02:00 -
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Yeah i know blah
But i've been reading every bit of info and all am seeing is 200 pound males !
So CCP Will there be female characters for dust?
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gfldex
75
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:04:00 -
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They all wear body armor and closed helmets. So how can you tell? Merry crisis and a happy new fear! |

Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate Not Usually Killing Everyone.
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:08:00 -
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Female voice when they die?
*hurk!*
Or form fitting armor? The shape even with armor could show a thinner waist, wider hips and shaped breast plate. The Drake is a Lie |

Skorpynekomimi
E.A.D Alliance Omega Vector
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:11:00 -
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Boobs on the armour?
Frankly, it could be a pair of midgets in that armour, and nobody would be any the wiser. |

Atticus Fynch
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:21:00 -
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Women dont belong in combat. deal with it.
Now get back in the kitchen and fetch me a beer. |

Baneken
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:22:00 -
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Othar en'gilliath wrote:Yeah i know blah
But i've been reading every bit of info and all am seeing is 200 pound males !
So CCP Will there be female characters for dust?
Frankly for all we know dusk soldiers don't even have a gender as they are essentially modified clones bred for the battlefield. hence masculine traits should be prevalent as it makes more sense in that perspective. |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
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Posted - 2011.12.21 19:32:00 -
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Stock clones brah, read the chronicles
They may be female before they become clone soldiers but once they get mind transfered once, it's all stock clones
Posting time! Come on, grab your friends. We'll go to very distant lands. |

Othar en'gilliath
OMNI Technologies Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2011.12.21 20:57:00 -
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Krios Ahzek wrote:Stock clones brah, read the chronicles
They may be female before they become clone soldiers but once they get mind transferred once, it's all stock clones
true but maybe thats just the first gen clones/soldier, i have read the chronicles.
maybe i want to spend more $$ for a different body eh?
we get to walk around the barge mass effect style with our face showing so there must be some sort customization.
and am sorry, females can fight too :)
i dont care if its 200 pound Amazon women ..
but yes armor could look different for females.
Baneken wrote:Othar en'gilliath wrote:Yeah i know blah
But i've been reading every bit of info and all am seeing is 200 pound males !
So CCP Will there be female characters for dust?
Frankly for all we know dusk soldiers don't even have a gender as they are essentially modified clones bred for the battlefield. hence masculine traits should be prevalent as it makes more sense in that perspective.
you do have a point
a body made for combat and only combat.......maybe there's a original clone for none combat ..id hate to lose myself
man i cant wait to read the new novel now
*Quick edit* Dust bunnies are "ITS" :O lmao! |

Logan LaMort
Black Rebel Rifter Club
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:03:00 -
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According to this two year old WIP screenshot, yes. |

Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:13:00 -
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They are most likely genderless meat golems.
For a single purpose soldier sex organs are superfluous anyway, so no need to waste resources on developing those assets. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images. |

Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate Not Usually Killing Everyone.
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:24:00 -
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Female attributes would be better though for stealth, more light and limber. The Drake is a Lie |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:33:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Female attributes would be better though for stealth, more light and limber.
Yay, specially wearing heavy armor and a shield generator as without them the very backlash of their weapons could kill them...
Frankly, the meat golems make more sense. Maybe they can swtich between "battle clone" and a "civilian clone", though... |

Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate Not Usually Killing Everyone.
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Posted - 2011.12.21 21:37:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Xercodo wrote:Female attributes would be better though for stealth, more light and limber. Yay, specially wearing heavy armor and a shield generator as without them the very backlash of their weapons could kill them...  Frankly, the meat golems make more sense. Maybe they can swtich between "battle clone" and a "civilian clone", though...
If you're stealth then why are you wearing heavy armor in the first place? Isn't that counter intuitive tot he whole "light and agile" thing?
And who said the needed to be using a big AR? Couldn't they use a light carbine or SMG with a silenced pistol as back up? The Drake is a Lie |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:00:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Xercodo wrote:Female attributes would be better though for stealth, more light and limber. Yay, specially wearing heavy armor and a shield generator as without them the very backlash of their weapons could kill them...  Frankly, the meat golems make more sense. Maybe they can swtich between "battle clone" and a "civilian clone", though... If you're stealth then why are you wearing heavy armor in the first place? Isn't that counter intuitive tot he whole "light and agile" thing? And who said the needed to be using a big AR? Couldn't they use a light carbine or SMG with a silenced pistol as back up?
Read the blog about the handheld weapons... even a pistol would melt your fillings w/o a shield. 
Quote:(...)The power of these guns would tear apart a modern day battlefield. In DUST 514 the only way your mercenary can survive the power of these weapons is due to the advanced shielding and armor of the dropsuits they wear. Without them, simply firing these weapons would severely injure or even kill you!
It's not like pew-pew. It's like OMFGWHOOSH!-OMFGWHOOSH!
The only difference that could make a difference between men and women could be that women consume less oxygen due to their lower ratio of muscular mass. But physically... well, here in my corner of world firefighters must meet very strong physical requirements, and guess what? the same tests that push off 90% of the male candidates, also push off 100% of the female candidates. Female candidates are asking to be given either a lead, or to diminish the physical requirements (but that's gonna be difficult, as there are like 90 candidates for each position and the physical test is key to filtering the best). |

gfldex
75
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:02:00 -
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Skorpynekomimi wrote:Frankly, it could be a pair of midgets in that armour, and nobody would be any the wiser.
The midget would, they have twice the brain.
Merry crisis and a happy new fear! |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
7
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:07:00 -
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BTW, just read the blog on dropsuits. If i was on FPS games, I would be planing to get a used PS3 to play that game. It's EVE on the ground...  |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:13:00 -
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Those are not dust clones though those are mind control bodies (which may be clones as well we dont know yet)
Dust clones are all copies of the same generic human super soldier ( think storm troopers) the only real difference is that minds are downloaded into the bodies and the infromorphic presence takes charge until the body expires or is no longer needed.
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Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate Not Usually Killing Everyone.
235
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Posted - 2011.12.21 22:21:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:BTW, just read the blog on dropsuits. If i was on FPS games, I would be planing to get a used PS3 to play that game. It's EVE on the ground... 
So did I, and considering the kind of technology in those suits i don't think it'd be too bad for a female to wear a slightly scaled back version of the assault suit with high CPU and low powergrid or something with a bit of the servo tech to make it into an exoskeleton that gives the wearer more speed and agility. The Drake is a Lie |

Systematic Oppression
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:18:00 -
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For those of you who think women can't be soldiers and particularly ground combat soldiers, I'd like to direct you to this historical example. Miss Pavlichenko She was one of the most successful snipers in history and by extension one of history's greatest soldiers. |

Professor Alphane
Alphane Research Co-operative
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:30:00 -
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Systematic Oppression wrote:For those of you who think women can't be soldiers and particularly ground combat soldiers, I'd like to direct you to this historical example. Miss Pavlichenko She was one of the most successful snipers in history and by extension one of history's greatest soldiers.
Yes snipers are known to be a lttile 'limp wristed' all that playing with there 'scope' most likely. Hardley reinforces your idea females make good front line troops. They just aren't physically strong enough to carry the immense weight of equipment and perform to the physical abilties a man can achieve..
Sorry to break the bad news to you..
I'm sure it will not divert your path of 'feminism' failing to appreciate and aknowledge the beauty and varaiance between the sexes.
YOU MUST THINK FIRST.... |

Bane Loppknow
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:34:00 -
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Based on what one of the characters in the novels does, I'd say they probably have two "bodies"
One is their normal avatar, unique and immortal, male or female.
The other is the stock combat clone, which is male, roided the **** out, expendable, and most importantly cheap.
Chillin in station? You're in your normal body. Dropping into combat? You're in a cheap combat clone. I certainly wouldn't waste my money on fancy things like making my clone match my face when it's just going to get shot up in 5 minutes.
Edit: Also, the whole "women can't go into combat" argument is stupid, on both sides. Fact is: Male body is built with more direct-combat capability, the better to fight off predators, or delay them while the female escapes with the offspring. It's our evolved role. Women are lighter on their feet, more difficult prey to catch. Their evolved role. Both of these roles can play out effectively in combat, but they're still different roles. Like comparing a Scorpion to an Abaddon. |

Jenshae Chiroptera
273
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Posted - 2011.12.21 23:36:00 -
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OP is clearly, just a misogynist that wants to see women being shot, injured and dying; over and over again.  Ideas and stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. |

Systematic Oppression
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:06:00 -
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It's great to see all the homophobes, misogynists and bigoted evospsych assholes come right out of the woodwork in these here forums. Snipers being "limp wristed"? Do you actually read the garbage you spew before you post or are you just a bad troll that thinks misogyny is funny. Yeah, in our natural un-augmented states, women have less overall muscle mass. Given that in most combat cases people aren't massacring each other with melee weapons now or in the eve universe I scarcely see the relevance. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
574
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:06:00 -
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Professor Alphane wrote:Systematic Oppression wrote:For those of you who think women can't be soldiers and particularly ground combat soldiers, I'd like to direct you to this historical example. Miss Pavlichenko She was one of the most successful snipers in history and by extension one of history's greatest soldiers. Yes snipers are known to be a lttile 'limp wristed' all that playing with there 'scope' most likely. Hardley reinforces your idea females make good front line troops. They just aren't physically strong enough to carry the immense weight of equipment and perform to the physical abilties a man can achieve.. Sorry to break the bad news to you.. I'm sure it will not divert your path of 'feminism' failing to appreciate and aknowledge the beauty and varaiance between the sexes.
Women make excellent pilots as well, consistently scoring higher than their male counter parts in many area's. So perhaps you'll see a woman piloting your drop ship, covering your ass while you off load, or perhaps driving everything from a scout car to a heavy tank... which means it would probably be a bad idea to make the obvious "women driver" wise cracks until you are safely back in the lobby after a match.  Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |

ninjaholic
Aliastra Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:08:00 -
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In combat I want a brother watching my back, not a girlfriend watching my finely cloned arse.
Support Eve's own built-in Battle-Recorder! |

Atticus Fynch
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:13:00 -
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Systematic Oppression wrote:It's great to see all the homophobes, misogynists and bigoted evospsych assholes come right out of the woodwork in these here forums.
HiYa!!! 
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
574
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:15:00 -
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ninjaholic wrote:In combat I want a brother watching my back, not a girlfriend watching my finely cloned arse.
So... you'd rather have a guy watching your ass?
No problem, it's a valid lifestyle choice. Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |

Jenshae Chiroptera
274
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:17:00 -
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Systematic Oppression wrote:It's great to see all the homophobes, misogynists and bigoted evospsych assholes come right out of the woodwork in these here forums. Snipers being "limp wristed"? Do you actually read the garbage you spew before you post or are you just a bad troll that thinks misogyny is funny. Yeah, in our natural un-augmented states, women have less overall muscle mass. Given that in most combat cases people aren't massacring each other with melee weapons now or in the eve universe I scarcely see the relevance.
Okay, in the same vein.
(Why does there seem to be gender war going on lately?)
Anyway ... women generally have better eye sight and a better power to weight ratio and since they store energy about their body better, that also means they can eat less - all criteria that is at the top of the list for special forces. Ideas and stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. |

Othar en'gilliath
OMNI Technologies Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:18:00 -
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you guys are funny as hell 
but my whole point is women can fight too.
teh big and burly women * i know a few female firefighters that actually have passed training.
However the whole 200 pound "IT" not male .....those soldiers are ITS ... they are not anatomically correct. and yeah that kinda makes sense
Why wasted all the biomass to make ..."Junk parts"
just as long as i can have a *original customized clone that be cool
Id like to have a console game that just as complex as eve dammit ...and pretty.
Space barbie dammit! i want my dust barbie too!
haters gonna hate |

Mr M
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2011.12.22 00:18:00 -
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Chick soldiers in thong armour.
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