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nync UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.16 23:42:00 - [61] Edited by: nync on 16/03/2007 23:43:57 Originally by: pershphanie I hope this post was meant to be funny. It's not even mildly believable. Originally by: nync a)" SMASH accepted the offer and were offered the system of 77s and full rights to the 10/10 plex in that system." B) RA never made such offers and would never accepted it. same way you can tell that someone offered you C-J6 and we agreed... Why would Smash take a system without an agreement? And dont you already have plenty of regions/plexes? Originally by: nync a)2 days after this, RED alliance announces they want to buy a mothership from 1 of the pilots in SMASH who is a known empire pirate and scammer b) RA NEVER asked Smash to buy anything from them. Smash pilot scammed our friend\ally. And according to our information Peoke was directly involved in this scam. Everyone has seen the chatlogs that say otherwise. In order for what you are saying to be true then all the chat logs where peoke warning RA that its not safe to buy the mothership without a go between are faked. Is that what you are claiming? Originally by: nync "And after Peoke informed RA that: '' Smash w'll reset standings towards our friends and towards RA. " nync HAD to reset standings towards Smash. That doesn't make much sense. Why would they do that? Care to give a reason why they set you to -10? Are they lying when they said that one of their members offered to pay you back? From what I can tell they firmly believe in the coalition. After all even after this incident they are still keeping all their long time enemies in the north at + standings just so they don't interfere with they coalitions goals. They are showing alot of restraint all things considered. So why would they be so dedicated to the coalition in every other way and then set you to -10 for no reason after helping you kill LV? Originally by: nync p.s. before talk about RA RA RA , you must imagine whats RA is? if you dont know anything about RA just shut up. RA dont post too much on eve-off.... And we dont like to explain everything for everybody....anyway wise people understood everything by own......stupid won't understand anything anyway... being stupid - is not curable... Maybe stupid is not curable, but being misinformed is curable. In order for your story here to be true a massive conspiracy of lying and faking chat logs would have to be taking place. Is that what is happen? Perhaps you'd like to elaborate. Let me help you. Take a look at the chat log you are referring too, copy paste into people&places -> search->, right click on character-> show info -> look at alliance he is in and been for a long time and find out he is not RA member. Maybe this simple action might help you understand that RA never wanted to buy mothership from Smash. Hope it helped. edit for spelling noob in training
Father Weebles North Face Force Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.16 23:57:00 - [62] I hope RA + allies get their **** packed in from BoB/Fix/LV/MC/Smash/Ratel "Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:00:00 - [63] Originally by: nync Let me help you. Take a look at the chat log you are referring too, copy paste into people&places -> search->, right click on character-> show info -> look at alliance he is in and been for a long time and find out he is not RA member. Maybe this simple action might help you understand that RA never wanted to buy mothership from Smash. Hope it helped. edit for spelling ok. well lets say all that is true and UAxDeath has no association with RA. Then why are you attacking them?
John Blackthorn Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:11:00 - [64] Originally by: Father Weebles I hope RA + allies get their **** packed in from BoB/Fix/LV/MC/Smash/Ratel If you know anything about Smash and Roadkill you would know that we would never nap Ratel. And if you know the history behind both Smash and Roadkill alliances they both shoot BOB. -John
nync UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:12:00 - [65] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: nync Let me help you. Take a look at the chat log you are referring too, copy paste into people&places -> search->, right click on character-> show info -> look at alliance he is in and been for a long time and find out he is not RA member. Maybe this simple action might help you understand that RA never wanted to buy mothership from Smash. Hope it helped. edit for spelling ok. well lets say all that is true and UAxDeath has no association with RA. Then why are you attacking them? b) RA NEVER asked Smash to buy anything from them. Smash pilot scammed our friend\ally read , think, post. noob in training
ragewind Caldari VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:25:00 - [66] Edited by: ragewind on 17/03/2007 00:26:59 Originally by: Father Weebles I hope RA + allies get their ** packed in from BoB/Fix/LV/MC/Smash/Ratel as has been said this is one for the diplomats as a whole issue, but this is **ed up we are not bobits and for my understanding ratel are not involved in the bob war nether nor for that mater our ally roadkill. please stop making up fiction
Murukan Minmatar Chaos Reborn	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:33:00 - [67] Originally by: John Blackthorn Originally by: Father Weebles I hope RA + allies get their ** packed in from BoB/Fix/LV/MC/Smash/Ratel If you know anything about Smash and Roadkill you would know that we would never nap Ratel. And if you know the history behind both Smash and Roadkill alliances they both shoot BOB. -John everyone knows that Roadkill were like best buds with BoB back in their stain days Manlove by Zaphod Jones**
Ann Frost Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:36:00 - [68] Are RA recruiting?, lol CCP Suck
thoth foc Elcyion Lacar	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:40:00 - [69] Originally by: nync Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: nync Let me help you. Take a look at the chat log you are referring too, copy paste into people&places -> search->, right click on character-> show info -> look at alliance he is in and been for a long time and find out he is not RA member. Maybe this simple action might help you understand that RA never wanted to buy mothership from Smash. Hope it helped. edit for spelling ok. well lets say all that is true and UAxDeath has no association with RA. Then why are you attacking them? b) RA NEVER asked Smash to buy anything from them. Smash pilot scammed our friend\ally read , think, post. what, a week in the 10/10 you took off them? why get upset _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) xATUK (.5.) xDICE (BOB)
AlvynNevins Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:45:00 - [70] Fighting versus RA together with Smashkill? No, never. Thanks Actually i "would" open fire on SMASHKill, RA/GS, BoB pilots (and many more) tho. We got lots of targets in the new drone regions already. Fight always outnumbered 5:1. Get many good battles. Found a few really nice friends. Why should we now run back into geminate? Posting not on behalf on my alliance since iam no diplomat or whatever.
wrathofflips Perkone	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:50:00 - [71] So it mean a POS drop to a NAP alliance was a gesture of friendship? You sir are a moron if you think people would believe your alibi. BTW, your post is a little bit too late if your purpose is sympathy from Eve community.
Sentar Manar Amarr NailorTech Industries Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:50:00 - [72] Look guys. We don't need to like each other but atleast while we are in this War we need to TOLORATE each other. This is exactly how BoB keeps winning. They just wait or sow division among their enemys and let them kill each other. Stop fighting each other. Kill Bob (along with the rest of us ) And then carry on as you would we don't need this to happen. Lets shake hands, make up and kill rearend. Then you can settle your own dispute. Not now though. :End Transmition:
Jonathan Peterbilt Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:51:00 - [73] Originally by: Zell "# Logging off inside a warp disrupt bubble (mobile warp disrupt or interdictor bubble) no longer triggers an emergency warp. " Bets it gonna really suck to be RA now..... Woot Woot
Dear John Private Veteran Penetration	Posted - 2007.03.17 00:54:00 - [74] Im beginning to think that either RA are BoB alts and want to break up the coalition by turning on their allies or they are looking for excuse to back out from the BoB war by creating conflict with SMASHKILL. I just dont get it why they would **** off the guerilla specialists in SMASHKILL when they need every hand on the BoB effort. Just look at the political map, how can RA attack BoB while defending from SMASHKILL? Not a chance!
Mutant UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 01:10:00 - [75] Edited by: Mutant on 17/03/2007 01:06:13 Originally by: Dear John Im beginning to think that either RA are BoB alts and want to break up the coalition by turning on their allies or they are looking for excuse to back out from the BoB war by creating conflict with SMASHKILL. I just dont get it why they would **** off the guerilla specialists in SMASHKILL when they need every hand on the BoB effort. Just look at the political map, how can RA attack BoB while defending from SMASHKILL? Not a chance! yep, SirMolle promised to us all complexes
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.17 01:20:00 - [76] Originally by: nync Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: nync Let me help you. Take a look at the chat log you are referring too, copy paste into people&places -> search->, right click on character-> show info -> look at alliance he is in and been for a long time and find out he is not RA member. Maybe this simple action might help you understand that RA never wanted to buy mothership from Smash. Hope it helped. edit for spelling ok. well lets say all that is true and UAxDeath has no association with RA. Then why are you attacking them? b) RA NEVER asked Smash to buy anything from them. Smash pilot scammed our friend\ally read , think, post. Smash leadership advised the pilot to NOT do the deal because it might be a scam. They even offered their help with the deal to insure that they did not get scammed. The pilot completely disregarded the warnings given to them by smash leadership and did not take them up on the offer to mediate so they did not get scammed. What more do you expect from them? They cant force your friend not to be stupid. Every warning and offer for assistance was completely ignored. I don't see what more could have been done by them.
nync UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 01:36:00 - [77] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: nync Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: nync Let me help you. Take a look at the chat log you are referring too, copy paste into people&places -> search->, right click on character-> show info -> look at alliance he is in and been for a long time and find out he is not RA member. Maybe this simple action might help you understand that RA never wanted to buy mothership from Smash. Hope it helped. edit for spelling ok. well lets say all that is true and UAxDeath has no association with RA. Then why are you attacking them? b) RA NEVER asked Smash to buy anything from them. Smash pilot scammed our friend\ally read , think, post. Smash leadership advised the pilot to NOT do the deal because it might be a scam. They even offered their help with the deal to insure that they did not get scammed. The pilot completely disregarded the warnings given to them by smash leadership and did not take them up on the offer to mediate so they did not get scammed. What more do you expect from them? They cant force your friend not to be stupid. Every warning and offer for assistance was completely ignored. I don't see what more could have been done by them. He might be fast, stupid or whatever you say, he still is MY FRIEND. noob in training
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.03.17 01:38:00 - [78] Respect to RA, but seriously: You guys need someone with better english in the forums. Noy trying to make fun or something, but that was nearly unreadable. And I hope both sides can solve this... problem. All this for a complex? Never liked complexes anyway.
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.03.17 01:39:00 - [79] Originally by: nync He might be fast, stupid or whatever you say, he still is MY FRIEND. A sad story if ever there was one, indeed. Good to see RA is willing to let rash action dictate their diplomacy, makes our job all the easier. Keep it up. ;)
Jeff Anderson VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 02:00:00 - [80] From the front lines: I was in 77S beating up LV and killing LV POS's. We were making preperations to claim sov of the system when the word comes down that someone in SMASH had scammed RA and RA wanted smash out. We retreated but not without casualties as some RA allies apparently attacked some of our members on the way back to TDE. We had a ceasefire put in place so we didn't aggrivate the situation more. But then the RA raids started and in defence we confronted RA forces in geminate. This is when we started hearing about RA wanting the 10/10 in 77S to themselves and was the real reason why we were told to leave. We started setting up camps an in 1 camp we destroyed all but a couple of RA ships who tried to invade TDE. The next morning the RA pos was in TDE. To those of us on the front lines this is when the gloves came off. This symbol of RA within TDE was a defiant act and needed to be delt with. Since the destruction of that pos in TDE it appears that all is quiet and we are hopeful of a solution so we can all get back to what we were all doing in their first place, showing BoB how blobs are ment to work.
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.17 02:11:00 - [81] Originally by: nync Smash leadership advised the pilot to NOT do the deal because it might be a scam. They even offered their help with the deal to insure that they did not get scammed. The pilot completely disregarded the warnings given to them by smash leadership and did not take them up on the offer to mediate so they did not get scammed. What more do you expect from them? They cant force your friend not to be stupid. Every warning and offer for assistance was completely ignored. I don't see what more could have been done by them. He might be fast, stupid or whatever you say, he still is MY FRIEND. Well ok. but that doesnt answer any questions. They advised your friends against doing the deal and they offered to assist to make sure no one got ripped off. Your friend chose to ignore all of that. That was his choice, smash cant force him not to do something. If smash leadership warned your friend not to make the deal, even offering to help make sure his isk was safe and he ignores what they say then how do you figure Smash is responsible?
Adam C 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.03.17 02:16:00 - [82] MACTEP please learn more english so you can join us on eve downtime teamspeak during 20th march Please!!! p.s bring Light Darkness, too! o/
Shadow Mancer Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.17 02:19:00 - [83] Originally by: nync Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: nync Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: nync Let me help you. Take a look at the chat log you are referring too, copy paste into people&places -> search->, right click on character-> show info -> look at alliance he is in and been for a long time and find out he is not RA member. Maybe this simple action might help you understand that RA never wanted to buy mothership from Smash. Hope it helped. edit for spelling ok. well lets say all that is true and UAxDeath has no association with RA. Then why are you attacking them? b) RA NEVER asked Smash to buy anything from them. Smash pilot scammed our friend\ally read , think, post. Smash leadership advised the pilot to NOT do the deal because it might be a scam. They even offered their help with the deal to insure that they did not get scammed. The pilot completely disregarded the warnings given to them by smash leadership and did not take them up on the offer to mediate so they did not get scammed. What more do you expect from them? They cant force your friend not to be stupid. Every warning and offer for assistance was completely ignored. I don't see what more could have been done by them. He might be fast, stupid or whatever you say, he still is MY FRIEND. I think u misunderstood Persephine's point, she didn't question your friendship, all she said was Smash tried to help and u guys didn't take it than came back and said SMASH scammed u for 10 bil isk. Sound to me like u didn't wanna share the plex with your allies and need an excuse to shoot smash. Shame on you. PS: what's with swearing in local and loging off? I'd really appreciate it if u dun swear in local (and yes I speak Russian)
Aerick Dawn Gallente Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 02:26:00 - [84] Quote: BoB/Fix/LV/MC/Smash/Ratel I lol'd :) ______________________ If I'm in a fair fight, i've done something terribly wrong.
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 02:54:00 - [85] Originally by: Righteous Fury Originally by: nync He might be fast, stupid or whatever you say, he still is MY FRIEND. A sad story if ever there was one, indeed. Good to see RA is willing to let rash action dictate their diplomacy, makes our job all the easier. Keep it up. ;) Your job? wtf - WeComeInPeace Video
Mutant UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.17 02:58:00 - [86] Originally by: Shadow Mancer Originally by: nync Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: nync Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: nync Let me help you. Take a look at the chat log you are referring too, copy paste into people&places -> search->, right click on character-> show info -> look at alliance he is in and been for a long time and find out he is not RA member. Maybe this simple action might help you understand that RA never wanted to buy mothership from Smash. Hope it helped. edit for spelling ok. well lets say all that is true and UAxDeath has no association with RA. Then why are you attacking them? b) RA NEVER asked Smash to buy anything from them. Smash pilot scammed our friend\ally read , think, post. Smash leadership advised the pilot to NOT do the deal because it might be a scam. They even offered their help with the deal to insure that they did not get scammed. The pilot completely disregarded the warnings given to them by smash leadership and did not take them up on the offer to mediate so they did not get scammed. What more do you expect from them? They cant force your friend not to be stupid. Every warning and offer for assistance was completely ignored. I don't see what more could have been done by them. He might be fast, stupid or whatever you say, he still is MY FRIEND. I think u misunderstood Persephine's point, she didn't question your friendship, all she said was Smash tried to help and u guys didn't take it than came back and said SMASH scammed u for 10 bil isk. Sound to me like u didn't wanna share the plex with your allies and need an excuse to shoot smash. Shame on you. PS: what's with swearing in local and loging off? I'd really appreciate it if u dun swear in local (and yes I speak Russian) He informed us that the SMASH guaranteed this bargain. Who has told a lie? You trust Peoke, but we trust our friend too... WTB lie detector!
DirtyHarry Caldari Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.03.17 03:03:00 - [87] peacock told us that if anyone ever attacked smash RA would pwnerise them cause they were such good buddies, WHY U LIEZ ME PEOKE? Havocide - DirtyHarryF-E Homepage F-E Killboard
Kriz Lupin Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.17 03:22:00 - [88] Ra, killing bob is the thing we want to do? stop killing smash. Then you have 2 alliances on your side. Stop being idiots. We want to help you. We will fight you, stop this bs now.
Sextus Licinius Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.03.17 03:28:00 - [89] You guys should kiss and make up and bringing this issue on eve-o forums to be trolled, derailed and smaked by you-know-who is not a wise decision. These kind of problems should be resolved through diplomacy and whoever stole or scammed should be found, gutted, quartered and thrown out as food for the dogz. "He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
pershphanie Generals Of Destruction Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.17 03:37:00 - [90] Originally by: Mutant He informed us that the SMASH guaranteed this bargain. Who has told a lie? You trust Peoke, but we trust our friend too... WTB lie detector! But there are chat logs that prove otherwise. I have yet to hear RA/UAxDeath say the chatlogs are fake. I'd think that is the first thing anyone would do if someone posted fake chat logs about them. Are you now claiming those chat logs are fake?

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