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Kate Onzo
VooDoo Warriors
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:50:14 -
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Launcher (even in second incarnation, Qt-based) have some flaws:
- it starts some different https connections, and on loading generates much traffic. On cellular line near to impossible login using it
-if some of connections fail - example - no connection with update server (even if no updates), laucher fails
- it have no functionality, needed to really start client, even password saving not work |
Fossor Wintersky
Ordinus Ursorum Cautorum
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Posted - 2016.09.05 18:53:24 -
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it's a BAD gamedesign. |
Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
107
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Posted - 2016.09.05 19:10:03 -
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I'm just wondering how to circumvent the launcher when the launcher's ****** now  |
Iv d'Este
OEG
Freedom Among the Stars
129
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Posted - 2016.09.05 19:13:19 -
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The launcher can be ba-+ged at any time, that often happened. While it will be repaired can take hours, days. This is a very very disturbing change. |
Emiko P'eng
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Posted - 2016.09.05 19:14:21 -
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As long as the 'OLD' Launcher still works I don't mind.
But if the update breaks the 'OLD' Launcher then you better finally have a 'NEW' Launcher that actually WORKS!!!!
You know like actually finds my profiles and then offers them to me so I can copy them over to my accounts.
CCP are on Launcher version 1069348.1031 and it still only offers me a default profile to copy over.
I have tried all the fixes and work-rounds and even manual searched for the weird profile file names and all I have to show in the 'NEW' Launcher is a whole pile of profiles called Default, Default_1, etc....
Currently the 'OLD' Launcher logs me in and gives me ALL of my settings for my accounts 
The 'NEW' Launcher is currently an illiterate moron on profile finding 
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brinelan
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Posted - 2016.09.05 19:15:01 -
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Fossor Wintersky wrote:it's a BAD gamedesign.
You should tell every other game dev since just about every mmo uses some kind of launcher. |
Zappity
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
2986
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Posted - 2016.09.05 19:20:08 -
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I'm pretty relaxed about this. The new launcher is pretty good (although I'm only running three accounts) and it will be good to close off that 2FA loophole.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
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Richard Wick
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
13
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Posted - 2016.09.05 19:27:35 -
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Well, this sucks.
I have 2 network interfaces on my computer.
- 1st is wired lan for my local network (without internet)
- 2nd is wireless connection with internet access.
I'm using tool called ForceBindIP that binds executable process to specific network interface. I use it to launching launcher and let the game update itself and then using it to launch exefile.exe directly through the wireless network with internet access.
Since logging in through exefile wouldn't be possible anymore, does someone have any suggestions? I would like to see option to select which network interface should be used, but that is probably too much to ask.
Any future suggestions? |
Daneel Trevize
Give my 11percent back
546
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Posted - 2016.09.05 19:44:17 -
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Richard Wick wrote:Well, this sucks. I have 2 network interfaces on my computer. - 1st is wired lan for my local network (without internet) - 2nd is wireless connection with internet access. - because of this and probably how Windows works, all wired connections are routed through wired interface primarly. I'm using tool called ForceBindIP that binds executable process to specific network interface. I use it to launching launcher and let the game update itself and then using it to launch exefile.exe directly through the wireless network with internet access. Since logging in through exefile wouldn't be possible anymore, does someone have any suggestions? I would like to see option to select which network interface should be used, but that is probably too much to ask. Any future suggestions?
Why would anything on your LAN be advertising a (fake) route to the net? Why wouldn't simple standard internet routing ensure traffic for external IPs goes out your net connection? Something sounds set up wrong at your end. |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
1143
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Posted - 2016.09.05 19:46:41 -
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Koenig Yazria wrote:FearlessLittleToaster wrote:Since the launcher is functional now I can't object to this. Please though, for future reference, keep in mind that if you are looking at making major changes to how the launcher works you need to keep it at it's current level of functionality. Logging in to Eve using the old method, configuring multiple accounts to get set up, etc. etc. was just enough of a chore to stop me playing sometimes if the kid had really run me ragged. Yes, really. The current launcher makes it very easy, and I like that, so don't break it.  No it is not functional. It always forgets logins. Half of the time it is not possible to login through the launcher. Edit: Personal attack removed, CCP Phantom
FWIW, mine has never forgotten my logins.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2016.09.05 20:00:28 -
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If you log into account management, there's now a button to expire all your log in tokens.
Was recently added, we just haven't messaged it yet
CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3
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MDK-1
the whispering winds of 5hit
0
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Posted - 2016.09.05 20:04:58 -
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ccp could write a book on how to annoy your own players |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
1145
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Posted - 2016.09.05 20:54:18 -
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MDK-1 wrote:ccp could write a book on how to annoy your own players
Yeah, it would called: "How to deal with self-entitled whiners without serving jail time."
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Locke Erasmus
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.05 21:02:05 -
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This is quote upsetting as a multiboxer to hear about, not that it's happening, but the super short notice. Several third party softwares are used to manage things and launch eve through the exefile. CCP knows people use them, and it costs them nothing to just let people know sooner that a change is coming to give those developers the chance to adapt.
So please CCP, when you're changing significant things like this, just try and actually tell people it's coming more than a couple weeks out. |
Superus Android
Zyon Corporation
0
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Posted - 2016.09.05 21:05:52 -
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On 2 of my friends's PCs the new launched is foobared... All I get is the window frame outline drawn by the windows API. it kinda looks like ghost of an app. The only way for me to logon is by using the exe directly. Support hasn't responded. The only thing that I can think of is that its a incompatibility with ZoneAlarm. I am not allowed to remove it though, so that's only a theory. Removing the exe login will remove an entire family from eve... |
Nisaldara Datsang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.09.05 21:06:17 -
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About twice a week the launcher ceases to work for me, reloading it won't work, even rebooting the computer will not reinstate functionality to the launcher. Its often accompanied by a massive white screen in the window. Other times it will simply not launch clients at all. In all of these scenario's logging in via exefile.exe allows me to still play eve.
Will you guys fix the launcher properly before you are removing the only loophole allowing you to play without relying on this broken extra wall of administration in the middle? |
Elenahina
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
1145
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Posted - 2016.09.05 21:07:10 -
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Locke Erasmus wrote:This is quote upsetting as a multiboxer to hear about, not that it's happening, but the super short notice. Several third party softwares are used to manage things and launch eve through the exefile. CCP knows people use them, and it costs them nothing to just let people know sooner that a change is coming to give those developers the chance to adapt.
So please CCP, when you're changing significant things like this, just try and actually tell people it's coming more than a couple weeks out.
CCP has been telling people EXEFILE service was going to be discontinued for years. Literally years. They haven't supported that method of login in at least a year, and maybe longer. We were told several months ago that this would be ending this year once the new launcher was released.
People have have plenty of time to adapt and far longer than a couple weeks notice.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Disposable ForumToon846
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.09.05 21:11:06 -
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New launcher is broken on my system. 5 fresh Windows 7 installs and around 30 EVE installs, and it still won't work. Please don't remove exe game launching. |
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
1651
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Posted - 2016.09.05 21:16:32 -
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MDK-1 wrote:ccp could write a book on how to annoy your own players
CCP could write a book on dealing with the most annoying and grossly entitled customers I've ever seen.
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FearlessLittleToaster
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
126
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Posted - 2016.09.05 21:20:13 -
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For me the launcher has been rock solid stable for months. No forgotten profiles, easy one-buttan login for four accounts, no issues updating at all. Apparently my situation is far from universal though. If I had to guess a lot of people were probably having launcher issues but then shrugging and using the workaround. Now that the workaround is going away all the bugs are swarming out of the woodwork...
So, CCP, just a suggestion: Delay this change a bit, announce it more widely, and them do an aggressive push to find out why the launcher is giving some users problems. If you guys had done this change back when the 'old' launcher was around I would have been up in arms too, and the sheer *effort* of putting in 15 minutes of busywork fixing things so I could play every time would have probably made me unsub. |
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Cerian Alderoth
Cult of the Black Monolith
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Posted - 2016.09.05 21:29:59 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:MDK-1 wrote:ccp could write a book on how to annoy your own players CCP could write a book on dealing with the most annoying and grossly entitled customers I've ever seen. Fair point.
However, a newbro asked me for help because the Launcher wouldn't install the game. We reinstalled the game, tried the offline installer first, reinstalled the launcher ... nothing worked so far: The launcher complains about access rights to its own installation folder (which we even manually reset to full access for everyone, user, system, and guest) and fails to start the game.
The newbro contacted CCP some six weeks ago and still hasn't gotten a reply from support... He probably won't return to this NPE.
*THIS* is how bad the new launcher actually is for some people. |
MDK-1
the whispering winds of 5hit
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Posted - 2016.09.05 22:11:18 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:MDK-1 wrote:ccp could write a book on how to annoy your own players CCP could write a book on dealing with the most annoying and grossly entitled customers I've ever seen.
Self-entitled =/= having an opinion. Blow yourself. |
Miss 'Assassination' Cayman
Best Kept Frozen.
LowSechnaya Sholupen
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Posted - 2016.09.05 22:23:01 -
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If the launcher worked reliably I wouldn't care, but it still stops working and I have to use the exefile at least every 10 days or so. If that reliability isn't improved this is going to be a very annoying change. |
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
1652
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Posted - 2016.09.05 22:27:44 -
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MDK-1 wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:MDK-1 wrote:ccp could write a book on how to annoy your own players CCP could write a book on dealing with the most annoying and grossly entitled customers I've ever seen. Self-entitled =/= having an opinion. Blow yourself.
Would if I could.
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Keebler Wizard
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.09.05 22:28:18 -
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You guys must have some jacked up network/computer configurations.
My launcher has worked the first time, and every time. Only things that have kept me out is the odd "web server down but not game server" and it may have forgotten my stuff ONCE, which was fixed by a relaunch.
Win7 here, happy to have increased security, and hopefuly someday, being able to switch characters without reloading the client. |
Torr Victros
EVE University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.09.05 22:36:02 -
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CCP Falcon wrote: we are currently in the process of working on changes to the EVE Online client that will result in the removal of the ability to log into EVE via launching exefile.exe from the EVE\sharedcache\%servername%\bin\ folder.
I find the new launcher has made it easier to run my multiple accounts, manage profiles, and access the test servers, so this change really won't be a problem except for that my corporation uses Mumble.
To make the Mumble overlay work on Windows 10, it is often necessary to add the exefile.exe's path in the shared cache to Mumble's white list. Without this, the overlay just won't work.
What will the new file and path be? I, and a lot of my corp-mates, will need to know this to adjust our Mumble overlay settings.
Thanks. |
Agent Unknown
Adversity.
Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2016.09.05 22:56:23 -
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Keebler Wizard wrote:You guys must have some jacked up network/computer configurations.
My launcher has worked the first time, and every time. Only things that have kept me out is the odd "web server down but not game server" and it may have forgotten my stuff ONCE, which was fixed by a relaunch.
Win7 here, happy to have increased security, and hopefuly someday, being able to switch characters without reloading the client.
Ditto, no issues here either. I also leave the launcher open after using it once (so I get all the patches as they come through) and have never had problems aside from it "forgetting" accounts which resolves itself by logging into one of them again.
Afaik, it uses webkit (aka Chrome) so it should work across all PCs unless there's some weird setup going on. All it needs is Internet access! |
Nakaara Adahsa
Deep Void Enterprises
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Posted - 2016.09.05 23:03:29 -
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Please do not disable login via Exefile until you fix the login problems via the launcher. The launcher sometimes fails to complete login, and restarting it usually does not cure this problem. Direct login via the exefile is the only reliable solution in thes cases.
I first encountered this problem during the first month of playing the game. I reported this as a bug, but you ignored my report and it was eventually deleted. Somehow I imagine other players have received a similar response.
If you proceed with this change in security without fixing the launcher problems, don't be surprised if you suddenly start to lose more players. You only have yourselves to blame for ignoring our error reports and warnings. |
Teinyhr
Ourumur
641
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Posted - 2016.09.05 23:04:30 -
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Seeing as the launcher is somekind of mini-browser in itself, and IIRC has been infected with malware before, I have to seriously wonder and doubt how does this enhance account security in any way?
P.S. I have not used the client login system since how many years has it been we've had the launcher, just saying, I'm not buying the "improved security" thing at all. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
900
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Posted - 2016.09.05 23:04:36 -
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I gave up on trying to get the new launcher to work and just started using the exefile.exe because I never heard back from CS.
Well, nice knowing you folks.
"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves."
The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
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