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Warleng Aurilen
Quid Nos Facere Optimum
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Posted - 2016.09.08 12:23:50 -
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Look This is gonna be a whine topic for losing to much billions in a day.
Again, we needed to swollow a 4 billion loss in ship and minerals today from bumpers in uedama.
I have respect for the game mechanics but making losing isk in high sec this easy is getting on my nerves.
Losing ships... fine...
But the constant penalty free bumping getting freighters to lose alignment needs to change... FAST.
We have a lot of work making a few b to get us going.
the endless wardecs, losing isk from bumpers ..... done with it...
CCP please have a look at this because I and a few others might agree that targetting and locking a ship in high sec
should at least punnishable by concord. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
45030
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Posted - 2016.09.08 12:32:19 -
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I understand you being frustrated and I even agree with the proposed change in bumping mechanics (CCP's proposed change).
However, whinging in the forum is pointless. Take more responsibility for your own safety to begin with and bumpers aren't a problem in the first place.
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sero Hita
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
215
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Posted - 2016.09.08 12:35:57 -
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Warleng Aurilen wrote:Look This is gonna be a whine topic for losing to much billions in a day.
Again, we needed to swollow a 4 billion loss in ship and minerals today from bumpers in uedama.
I have respect for the game mechanics but making losing isk in high sec this easy is getting on my nerves.
Losing ships... fine...
But the constant penalty free bumping getting freighters to lose alignment needs to change... FAST.
We have a lot of work making a few b to get us going.
the endless wardecs, losing isk from bumpers ..... done with it...
CCP please have a look at this because I and a few others might agree that targetting and locking a ship in high sec
should at least punnishable by concord.
I don't like this. There are ways to avoid loosing a freigther. I would not be against people getting a suspect timer when locking someone though, but that is mostly out off my own selfish lowsec reasons . I hope we do agree though that you don't need to lock someone to bump them.... So this will not solve your problem.
"I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
45031
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Posted - 2016.09.08 12:43:27 -
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sero Hita wrote:I would not be against people getting a suspect timer when locking someone though, but that is mostly out off my own selfish lowsec reasons . I hope we do agree though that you don't need to lock someone to bump them.... So this will not solve your problem.
Locking is required to prevent safe logoff. So if the bumping ship doesn't lock, then that just switches the responsibility to a second ship, most likely either an interceptor than can use speed to avoid the antigankers and/or a ship that combines speed with a long lock range.
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Zanar Skwigelf
Boa Innovations
Brothers of Tangra
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Posted - 2016.09.08 12:49:29 -
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Why did you fly a 4b freighter thru Uedama? How much m3 were you carrying? |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
2787
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Posted - 2016.09.08 12:49:31 -
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Your ship exploded because of a bump? 
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Serene Repose
2946
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Posted - 2016.09.08 12:52:56 -
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LOL. The "bumping mechanic" is its own brand of foolishness. If it actually worked universally in our own little world here, the jumpgates would be traveling all over the systems. Stations would be like billiard balls careening into each other.
It's an obvious oversight someone failed to identify, and as in all such things, that precious few has found a way to become preoccupied with it - as in make it into a career. I want to not believe people SO intelligent as those who could create an EVE would allow this sort of thing to continue - to the obvious disadvantage of industrial players who presumably CCP wishes to remain in the game. However, knowing management like I now do...
The ones who love it, of course, are dining out on it daily, thriving on the low-hanging fruit and claiming it's some sort of exotic skill position...takes practice and timing....just look at the disproportionate amount of kills in U-damn-ah!
Or, let the vultures be your guide.
We must accommodate the idiocracy.
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Ahmed Ibn Rustah
Maxim 6
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Posted - 2016.09.08 12:53:52 -
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As someone who has had a visit from said bumpers in that sytem there are a few things you can do to help yourself.
1. Scout the gates and use dscan - have some friends/alts on the gates you are going through, use them to check if the bumper is on d-scan or on grid before you warp
2. Use corp/personal bookmarks and create some pings off grid near the out gates, warp here and not to the gate. If a bumper follows you to the gate you are safe so just go dock up.
3. Use a webber - I use a Hugin with a few T2 webs to help get the hauler into warp. In the case you get bumped the webs can help you stay near the gate and the gate guns.
4. Bring your own bumper! Nothing will give you more fun than using your own bumping Mach alt to bump the other mach away. |
Revis Owen
The Conference Elite
CODE.
408
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Posted - 2016.09.08 12:59:03 -
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Warleng Aurilen wrote:We have a lot of work making a few b to get us going.
But you really didn't do a lot of work, at least regarding what you should have done to keep your ship safer while transiting.
-Look at the map for ship kills.
-Use other free Intel sources to know when not to transit Uedama.
-A scout, and proper scouting.
-A Webber.
-Counter-bumpers and counter-gankers escort.
Highsec is not safe. You didn't do a lot of work dealing with that fact, despite your claims.
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Rawmeat Mary
Celtic Anarchy
Complaints Department
140
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Posted - 2016.09.08 13:04:36 -
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Warleng Aurilen wrote:CCP please have a look at this because I and a few others might agree that targetting and locking a ship in high sec
should at least punnishable by concord.
Yes, lets entirely remove PVP from Hisec and turn it into carebear paradise. Excellent.
'If they take the ship, they'll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins onto their clothing.
And if we're very, very lucky, they'll do it in that order.'
Yeah, we're like that.
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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
1661
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Posted - 2016.09.08 13:19:38 -
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I thought they added that 3 minute rule where you will warp after 3 minutes regardless of being aligned or not? Was that added yet?
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3934
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Posted - 2016.09.08 13:31:27 -
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So what if we did?
Say the only PvP combat that happened in high sec were duels, and wars where at least one corp had an in-space asset (POCO, citadel). What would happen to the game? I'm not asking about the basic philosophy of the game, I know this would be a fundamental change. I'm asking about what would happen to the game itself. For example:
A bad thing, at least for traders:
Price differences between the trade hubs would drop.
Two good things:
The number of whine threads in the forums would go down.
The number of tickets CCP gets for "harassment" would drop.
What else?
To the Op: I keep my cargo below 1000 ISK per EHP, and get left alone.
TigerXtrm wrote:I thought they added that 3 minute rule where you will warp after 3 minutes regardless of being aligned or not? Was that added yet?
Not yet. But when they do, it just means the gankers need to hit the freighter with a scram, shot from a rookie ship, once every 2 minutes. One or two more gankers will be needed over the 20 to 30 needed now, so its not a big deal.
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Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
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Posted - 2016.09.08 13:35:08 -
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The only ship your corporation lost today in Uedama is a Machariel flown by your corp mate Sander Heleneto and reasonably well fit for bumping.
I would hazard to guess you (or at least one member of your corporation) are playing the bumping game yourself. Was the reason for this post the fact that your corp mate was blown up by the competition?
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
Coalition of the Unfortunate
1707
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Posted - 2016.09.08 13:43:37 -
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Highsec bumping while the would-be aggressor is protected from effective counter-attack by CONCORD (a 15 minute timer if you try to counter-gank) is an idiotic mechanic that can only reliably be countered by a triple-web huginn / rapier... which in itself was an accidental mechanic.
Scouting the gate won't offer a great deal either, because unless you know the name of every ganker, and check every station first, it's quite easy to sit a cloaked machariel a few K off the gate and still ram into something else before it can warp without slingshot, as bumping is not effected by the cloak cooldown timer.
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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
109
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Posted - 2016.09.08 14:03:16 -
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At least CCP introduced a feature that after being aligned for a certain amount of time that you instantly warped.
Oh wait that got delayed again  |
Lacori
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2016.09.08 14:07:48 -
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Warleng Aurilen wrote:Look This is gonna be a whine topic for losing to much billions in a day.
Again, we needed to swollow a 4 billion loss in ship and minerals today from bumpers in uedama.
I have respect for the game mechanics but making losing isk in high sec this easy is getting on my nerves.
Losing ships... fine...
But the constant penalty free bumping getting freighters to lose alignment needs to change... FAST.
We have a lot of work making a few b to get us going.
the endless wardecs, losing isk from bumpers ..... done with it...
CCP please have a look at this because I and a few others might agree that targetting and locking a ship in high sec
should at least punnishable by concord.
http://tinyurl.com/qfs44n5 |
Tsukino Stareine
Art Of Explosions
404 Hole Not Found
1773
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Posted - 2016.09.08 14:20:10 -
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Waaaa I lost a ship ccplease fix |
Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
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Posted - 2016.09.08 14:22:28 -
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OP lost a ship in Uedama? It must be a Thursday. |
Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
353
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Posted - 2016.09.08 14:42:58 -
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Warleng Aurilen wrote:Look This is gonna be a whine topic for losing to much billions in a day.
Again, we needed to swollow a 4 billion loss in ship and minerals today from bumpers in uedama.
I have respect for the game mechanics but making losing isk in high sec this easy is getting on my nerves.
Losing ships... fine...
But the constant penalty free bumping getting freighters to lose alignment needs to change... FAST.
We have a lot of work making a few b to get us going.
the endless wardecs, losing isk from bumpers ..... done with it...
CCP please have a look at this because I and a few others might agree that targetting and locking a ship in high sec
should at least punnishable by concord.
The bumping problem, the wardec problem, and isk making problem can all be solved with one simple solution. LEAVE HIGH SEC. CCP already solved this problem for you, you just choose not to use it.
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Warleng Aurilen
Quid Nos Facere Optimum
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Posted - 2016.09.08 15:01:34 -
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Esrevid Nekkeg wrote:The only ship your corporation lost today in Uedama is a Machariel flown by your corp mate Sander Heleneto and reasonably well fit for bumping.
I would hazard to guess you (or at least one member of your corporation) are playing the bumping game yourself. Was the reason for this post the fact that your corp mate was blown up by the competition?
No mate.
I lost a charon. and 2.7b in minerals today.
a whole fleet came to get me blown up and I needed to eject from charon preventing the loss of a billion in implants.
but that aside.....
its not losing the few billions and charon.... its the time they take from me and my corp mate not being able to do anything about me getting ganked.
Thats what is frustrating me the most..... and the reason to spill it here on the forum.
It is to easy to take.... but to damn hard to actively pursue those attacking us indy's.
In cases like mine it should be possible to shoot down a bumper by a corp mate.
Even without a wardec...... this will even the ods in uedama.
Yess we do know all the webbing, zkill,and what not.
still no guarantee not being bumped in uedama.
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oiukhp Muvila
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
58
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Posted - 2016.09.08 15:03:39 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Your ship exploded because of a bump?
Some can connect the dots, some cannot.
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Knitram Relik
Atomic Amish
62
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Posted - 2016.09.08 15:07:37 -
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I'm confused. You consented to PvP when you hit UNDOCK. What's the problem?
Did you have a permit? Or a scout/webber? Or even an ounce of common sense? This is EvE. Man up or go download WoW.
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Warleng Aurilen
Quid Nos Facere Optimum
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Posted - 2016.09.08 15:10:30 -
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Knitram Relik wrote:I'm confused. You consented to PvP when you hit UNDOCK. What's the problem?
Did you have a permit? Or a scout/webber? Or even an ounce of common sense? This is EvE. Man up or go download WoW.
nope... if i would consent to pvp I would have gone TO 0 SEC FFS.
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Maekchu
Gunpoint Diplomacy
446
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Posted - 2016.09.08 15:15:32 -
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Consent to PvP
* You consent to PvP when you click "undock".
* You are not safe in 1.0 security space. CONCORD is there to punish, not to protect. Get used to the idea.
* In most cases, the only way to be 100% safe from aggression inside the game is to be docked in a station. Being cloaked in a secret safespot could work too.
8 Golden rules for EVE Online
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Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
728
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Posted - 2016.09.08 15:20:16 -
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Warleng Aurilen wrote:CCP please have a look at this because I and a few others might agree that targetting and locking a ship in high sec
should at least punnishable by concord.
If CCP made this change I'd go back to being a mission ninja in a heartbeat - think of the officer fit mission ships I could get concorded just be taunting them into locking me!
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
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Ezin
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.09.08 15:21:02 -
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to fly in hisec is not a freecard to go streight to station and pass the pvp.
htfu and play smart, use red frog freight or others if you can not take the losd |
Dirty Forum Alt
Forum Alts Anonymous
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Posted - 2016.09.08 15:21:49 -
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Warleng Aurilen wrote:No mate.
I lost a charon. and 2.7b in minerals today.
a whole fleet came to get me blown up and I needed to eject from charon preventing the loss of a billion in implants.
Thank you... I needed a really good laugh...
#1) It probably wasn't even a gank fleet
#2) If you spam warp your pod will insta-warp as soon as your ship dies, there is no reason to eject, ever.
#3) I still can't stop laughing...
The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
They lay. They rotted. They turned
Around occasionally.
Bits of flesh dropped off them from
Time to time.
And sank into the pool's mire.
They also smelt a great deal.
Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings (Sussex)
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Warleng Aurilen
Quid Nos Facere Optimum
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Posted - 2016.09.08 15:42:41 -
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Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Warleng Aurilen wrote:No mate.
I lost a charon. and 2.7b in minerals today.
a whole fleet came to get me blown up and I needed to eject from charon preventing the loss of a billion in implants. Thank you... I needed a really good laugh... #1) It probably wasn't even a gank fleet #2) If you spam warp your pod will insta-warp as soon as your ship dies, there is no reason to eject, ever. #3) I still can't stop laughing...
feast on my ignorance.... it's all good I know.
Taken all good advise to heart and gonna lick the wounds for today.
the important thing is having learned something today........
maybe tetris is more suitable. 
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Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
82
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Posted - 2016.09.08 16:00:07 -
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Warleng Aurilen wrote:Dirty Forum Alt wrote:Warleng Aurilen wrote:No mate.
I lost a charon. and 2.7b in minerals today.
a whole fleet came to get me blown up and I needed to eject from charon preventing the loss of a billion in implants. Thank you... I needed a really good laugh... #1) It probably wasn't even a gank fleet #2) If you spam warp your pod will insta-warp as soon as your ship dies, there is no reason to eject, ever. #3) I still can't stop laughing... feast on my ignorance.... it's all good I know. Taken all good advise to heart and gonna lick the wounds for today. the important thing is having learned something today........ maybe tetris is more suitable.
I think you overestimate the sympathy of the people on these forums. That is not to say they're all sociopaths, but we've heard this all before, countless times. It seems you just needed to vent. i get that, but not likely the best place to do that. Get a dog and tell him about it. It will make you feel better and you won't end up just being another voice in a sea of people that got their internet spaceship blown up. |
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The Conference Elite
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Posted - 2016.09.08 16:10:58 -
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posting in another 'nerf ganking' thread |
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