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Basileus
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Posted - 2007.03.18 22:38:00 -
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Does it still exist?
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Larg Kellein
Caldari GTE Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.18 22:40:00 -
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All these systems are yours, except Saila, Aramachi and Motsu. Attempt no landing there.
Yeah, still there, still laggy.
Originally by: Roy Batty68 My software has wronged me!!! And it's immediately "sorry". Well, ok then. I suppose I'm not so upset at my software if it appologizes.
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Basileus
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Posted - 2007.03.18 22:41:00 -
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It won't let me in.
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Lord MuffloN
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.03.18 22:48:00 -
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I think the amount of pilots in them made it implode and it's now a black hole.
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.03.18 22:56:00 -
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My agent in Aramachi constantly gives me missions in Saila and now I spend more time on the forums than playing the game. Even at 1-2pm evetime it's sometimes unplayable. Goddamn farmers.
As soon as I get that CNR offer i'm gone and i'm never going back. ---
Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
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Arialla
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Posted - 2007.03.18 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean My agent in Aramachi constantly gives me missions in Saila and now I spend more time on the forums than playing the game. Even at 1-2pm evetime it's sometimes unplayable. Goddamn farmers.
As soon as I get that CNR offer i'm gone and i'm never going back.
Wait...you are farming a CNR in high sec and you are complaining about farmers?
-- Arialla
Originally by: Robocop Scammer: You probably don't think I'm a very nice guy, do ya? Murphy: Buddy, I think you're slime.
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Basileus
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Posted - 2007.03.18 23:14:00 -
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Maybe the patch will bring some improvement. These systems have been shagged for months now. 
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.03.18 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Arialla
Originally by: Marquis Dean My agent in Aramachi constantly gives me missions in Saila and now I spend more time on the forums than playing the game. Even at 1-2pm evetime it's sometimes unplayable. Goddamn farmers.
As soon as I get that CNR offer i'm gone and i'm never going back.
Wait...you are farming a CNR in high sec and you are complaining about farmers?
CNR = money. I don't need a CNR.
And it's a certain type of automated farmer than i'm referring to. ---
Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
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Auri Hella
The Graduates Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.03.19 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean As soon as I get that CNR offer i'm gone and i'm never going back.
You do realize that you can get a CNR offer from any Caldari agent? Why do people insist on going to Motsu et al. to get theirs? 
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.03.19 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Auri Hella
Originally by: Marquis Dean As soon as I get that CNR offer i'm gone and i'm never going back.
You do realize that you can get a CNR offer from any Caldari agent? Why do people insist on going to Motsu et al. to get theirs? 
You do realize that to reach the kind of LP he's at, he's probably had that agent for a little while now, right?
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Arialla
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Posted - 2007.03.19 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean CNR = money. I don't need a CNR.
And it's a certain type of automated farmer than i'm referring to.
You are farming a CNR so you can sell it for money. Oh, so you are not farming at all then. /sarcasm
What automated farmers are you talking about? Are people macro mining in Saila? I thought the population in Motsu/Saila was mostly mission runners...?
-- Arialla
Originally by: Robocop Scammer: You probably don't think I'm a very nice guy, do ya? Murphy: Buddy, I think you're slime.
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Basileus
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Posted - 2007.03.19 10:01:00 -
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I was just farming for a CNR when the lag was getting to rediculous levels. I then had a CTD, and wanted to log back in. It would not let me. Thankfully I had already destroyed all the scramble thingies, so my CNR and expensive mods were safely warped out. Saves having to write a petition.
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.03.19 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Auri Hella
Originally by: Marquis Dean As soon as I get that CNR offer i'm gone and i'm never going back.
You do realize that you can get a CNR offer from any Caldari agent? Why do people insist on going to Motsu et al. to get theirs? 
Qft  -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
[Brackley, UK]
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Plasticine Perfection
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Posted - 2007.03.19 11:03:00 -
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Can't believe I'm posting this AGAIN since the SAME PEOPLE keep posting the SAME ARGUMENTS in these threads.
Many, many, many of us starting missioning in the Motsu/Saila region long before it turned into the lagfest that it is now.
Once you've spent several months slowly building up LPs with an agent you can't just abandon them and move to a new agent just because of the lag.
If CCP would let us transfer LPs then the Motsu/Saila problem would probably disappear overnight. I know I for one would find another agent somewhere less crowded and never go near Motsu again.
This is such a small, easy fix that I don't understand why it can't be done. I know it's coming, but it's a LONG way off yet and by that time missions will be very different to how they are now - many people want to get the *only* decent ISK:LP offer out of the way before that set of nerfs^H^H^H^H^Hchanges.
So, try reading and thinking before trotting out the EXACT SAME RUBBISH that always gets posted in these threads.
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Godar Marak
Amarr Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.19 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Plasticine Perfection Can't believe I'm posting this AGAIN since the SAME PEOPLE keep posting the SAME ARGUMENTS in these threads.
Many, many, many of us starting missioning in the Motsu/Saila region long before it turned into the lagfest that it is now.
And your point is? If you think mission running is so fun that you will mindlessly do the same missions over and over and over and over again for a year or more just to get 'good lewt' then you should have no problems starting all over again with a new agent.
-------------------- '\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/' Cant we all just get along?
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maarud
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.19 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Auri Hella
Originally by: Marquis Dean As soon as I get that CNR offer i'm gone and i'm never going back.
You do realize that you can get a CNR offer from any Caldari agent? Why do people insist on going to Motsu et al. to get theirs? 
*sigh* You need decient standings with the other factions to get to thier agents. My alt has lvl 4 caldari navy agents, but only lvl II with other caldari factions and I'm sure as hell not grinding lvl II missions again.
As soon as I get the standings increase to use another faction and then a semi decient offer, I'm off to a diffrent faction.
The problem is, that you almost always have to start with the Caldari Navy agents, or you generally don't realise you should be running with other factions till you have already done the grind.
Maarud.
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Miss Marvelous
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Posted - 2007.03.19 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Godar Marak And your point is? If you think mission running is so fun that you will mindlessly do the same missions over and over and over and over again for a year or more just to get 'good lewt' then you should have no problems starting all over again with a new agent.
I'm sure that isn't the issue here. Some people are actually saving up LP for a CNR. If they like that, so be it. Some people have been in those systems for a long while, too. When you want a CNR and you have say 350k LP, then I can imagine you are reluctant to change agents, to say the least. 
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Godar Marak
Amarr Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.19 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Marvelous
I'm sure that isn't the issue here. Some people are actually saving up LP for a CNR. If they like that, so be it. Some people have been in those systems for a long while, too. When you want a CNR and you have say 350k LP, then I can imagine you are reluctant to change agents, to say the least. 
Miss Marvelous.
You have a valid and much plausible point. However, if anyone is able to farm their way to a Navy Raven then they are obviously enjoying it. Thus, I belive my original statement cancels out your argument.
You are still marvelous though, unless you're really a dude. -------------------- '\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/' Cant we all just get along?
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Soporo
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.03.19 16:00:00 -
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Why not go to another agent in the same Corp in another system? CCP said they are gonna initiate a LP Bank which groups all an earned npc corp lp. Might take a bit for this to be implemented, but it is coming.
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Exlegion
New Light Schism.
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Posted - 2007.03.19 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Exlegion on 19/03/2007 16:35:47
Originally by: Godar Marak
Originally by: Plasticine Perfection Can't believe I'm posting this AGAIN since the SAME PEOPLE keep posting the SAME ARGUMENTS in these threads.
Many, many, many of us starting missioning in the Motsu/Saila region long before it turned into the lagfest that it is now.
And your point is? If you think mission running is so fun that you will mindlessly do the same missions over and over and over and over again for a year or more just to get 'good lewt' then you should have no problems starting all over again with a new agent.
I enjoy the missions with the satisfaction of knowing that I'll be rewarded in due time for my efforts. Example: Just because I've enjoyed the time training my character up to 15 million skill points doesn't mean I'd like to do it all over again with the same character.
And just because I enjoy doing missions (over and over again) doesn't mean I also enjoy doing them with lag galore.
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Humpalot
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Posted - 2007.03.19 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Humpalot on 19/03/2007 17:03:02 Edited by: Humpalot on 19/03/2007 17:01:53
Originally by: Soporo Why not go to another agent in the same Corp in another system? CCP said they are gonna initiate a LP Bank which groups all an earned npc corp lp. Might take a bit for this to be implemented, but it is coming.
The reason Motsu is so heavily camped is it has one of only 2 available Q18 Command agents for Caldari. The rest are various mixtures that include more courier missions (Command has the best percentage of combat missions of all types).
So, that is the best hi sec agent available for combat missions for Caldari (the other one is for Spacelane Patrol in Isinokka). The only Q19 Command agent is in low sec and there are no Q20 Command agents anywhere for Caldari (and ALL Q20 Caldari agents are in low sec/0.0 and all but one are almost strictly courier missions).
So you can see CCP has pretty much forced the issue on this one as there is little in the way of options so Motsu and neighboring Saila suck bad.
EDIT: Actually due to Ininokka's lower sec status (.7.) than Motsu's (0.9) the Spacelane Agent would be somewhat better. No idea if that one is camped too though.
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.03.19 17:13:00 -
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I'm in Saila now. Almost unplayable. I've submitted a petition, just to see what happens. I really think CCP needs to move some nodes about and sort this constellation out, cause I can't even play really.
And don't tell me to go to another system, cause my agent is here and I really wanna get those LP high so I can get that offer and leave here forever. ---
Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
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Godar Marak
Amarr Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.19 17:36:00 -
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Edited by: Godar Marak on 19/03/2007 17:32:29
Originally by: Marquis Dean I'm in Saila now. Almost unplayable.
I'm sure its going to be unplayable for quite some time. why not move to a different location instead of sitting in station filing petitions all day? -------------------- '\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/' Cant we all just get along?
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.03.19 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: Godar Marak I'm sure its going to be unplayable for quite some time. why not move to a different location instead of sitting in station filing petitions all day?
Originally by: Marquis Dean And don't tell me to go to another system, cause my agent is here and I really wanna get those LP high so I can get that offer and leave here forever.
lol, God you're stupid.
And just so you know, I don't file petitions all day. This is the first petition i've ever submitted to do with lag, and I just want more information and possibly a solution, in the absence of a dev reply to this or a similar thread.
I just want more info, is that so bad, forum warrior? ---
Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
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Godar Marak
Amarr Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.19 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: Godar Marak on 19/03/2007 17:39:43
Originally by: Marquis Dean
lol, God you're stupid.
Now lets all agree on something :
-You know the misison runner hubs are lagged out -People tell you to go to another system
Yet you (being the clever one) decide to stay put.
Now Caldari, whos the stupid one? -------------------- '\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/' Cant we all just get along?
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.03.19 17:46:00 -
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Edited by: Marquis Dean on 19/03/2007 17:42:32
Originally by: Godar Marak Now lets all agree on something : -You know the misison runnber hubs are lagged out
I didn't know that, because back when I started with my agent 4 months ago, the whole Santenpaa constellation was nice and lagfree, it ran very smoothly, perhaps with the exception of the Motsu stargates in peak usage hours. Something happened 2 or 3 weeks ago and the lag got much much worse.
Originally by: Godar Marak -People tell you to go to another system
And the only people who say stuff like that are people like you, because you don't have anything constructive to add and need to stroke your peen a little. I have 480,000 LP with my agent in Aramachi, and i'm not keen on just walking away from that. As soon as I get the LP I need, i'll leave and go somewhere else.
I'm afraid, conclusively, you are stupid. ---
Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
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Kye Do'lan
Gallente The Whitesands Consortium
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Posted - 2007.03.19 18:17:00 -
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I've just crashed in saila (on my way through) and cannot log back in 15 mins so far 
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Marquis Dean
The Last Thing You'll Ever See
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Posted - 2007.03.19 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kye Do'lan I've just crashed in saila (on my way through) and cannot log back in 15 mins so far 
Rename your cache, almost always fixes it. If you wnt to keep your settings, copy the prefs.ini and the 'Settings' folder from the old cache into the new one the game creates when you log in again. ---
Originally by: Foopadoo Hell hath no fury like an internet nerd scorned.
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Mastin Dragonfly
Amarr Navy Runners
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Posted - 2007.03.19 18:53:00 -
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Why don't you just leave the system until it's fixed or the LP banks are introduced, those LPs aren't going anywhere you know.
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Godar Marak
Amarr Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2007.03.19 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean
And the only people who say stuff like that are people like you, because you don't have anything constructive to add and need to stroke your peen a little. I have 480,000 LP with my agent in Aramachi, and i'm not keen on just walking away from that. As soon as I get the LP I need, i'll leave and go somewhere else.
Really? I had a mission runner alt in saila, but I sold him over 6 moths ago due to incredible lag thus I didnt need him anymore.
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I'm afraid, conclusively, you are stupid.
Considering how I live ina virtually lag ree enviroment (only lag when in fleet batles) and you whine on the forums while having the option of avoiding lag.....you the b***h, I'm the butch.
-------------------- '\0/\0/\0/\0/\0/' Cant we all just get along?
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