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motie one
Secret Passage
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Posted - 2016.09.15 20:10:58 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Hello everyone o/ Many of you have seen our recent news update revealing the celebratory rewards we're sending to subscribers over the next few months. The original update included this cryptic text: Quote:In addition to this, there are also rumors from an as of yet unidentified shipyard that indicate a new ship is about to be unveiled... Today we're ready to begin gathering feedback on this new ship that will be handed out as part of the celebration! The Sunesis is a new destroyer from the Society of Conscious Thought. Like its big brother the Gnosis, the Sunesis does not require advanced skill training to fly and gets all its bonuses from fixed role bonuses. It also shares the Gnosis' "jack of all trades" design philosophy, receiving bonuses to all major weapon types and being able to be tanked in any way desired. Here are the work in progress stats as they stand today. We'll be making tweaks as needed using your feedback and playtesting. SunesisGÇ£The Sunesis-class SoCT Destroyer allows any acolyte to protect the investigations and secrets of the society. Since it has very low skill requirements, any capsuleer can pilot it. It serves well in research and exploration but truly comes into its own in combat, with extremely fast align time. This is a ship that shows its value when understanding the universe requires a strong hand as well as a sharp mind."Role Bonus: 25% bonus to Small Energy Turret, Small Hybrid Turret and Small Projectile Turret damage 25% bonus to Light Missile and Rocket damage 50% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage 37.5% bonus to Core and Combat Scanner Probe strength Slot layout: 4H, 4M, 4L; 3 turrets, 3 launchers 3 Rig Slots, 400 Calibration Fittings: 63 PWG, 175 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 800 / 800 / 800 Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 27.5 / 27.5 / 27.5 / 27.5 Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 32.5 / 32.5 / 32.5 / 32.5 Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second) : 575 / 320 / 1.8 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 220 / 2 / 1,500,000 / 4.16s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 20 / 40 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 35km / 550 / 6 Sensor strength: 10 Gravimetric Signature radius: 65 Cargo capacity: 600 To get this new ship for free, be subscribed before 23:59 UTC on September 16th 2016 and maintain an active subscription until the November expansion. We'll have this ship ready for playtesting on SISI as soon as possible so you folks can try it out there. Let us know what you think!
I like the drone bandwidth, that's 6 effective drones If I understand it right? I see you have not mentioned an exploration bonus, that would fit in well for the ship? Or would that make it too hard for explorer hunters? I think they could handle that? Just not a super soft target. Give it some thought, it would be a good addition. |

Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
449
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Posted - 2016.09.15 20:45:06 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:Cargo capacity: 600
Excellent. I can put my packaged Apotheosis inside my Sunesis!
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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance
421
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Posted - 2016.09.15 21:02:49 -
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Sweeeeeet.
Love the SoCT Gnosis, so this destroyer will be welcomed.
Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
18029
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Posted - 2016.09.15 21:20:52 -
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Altrue wrote:Zappity wrote:And it messed with the Gnosis speculators which was amusing. Unless CCP introduces more Gnosii
'Gnoses'
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Cearain
Plus 10 NV Cede Nullis
1479
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Posted - 2016.09.15 21:21:18 -
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The racial imbalance from the gnosis is carried over to this ship as well but to a lesser extent.
Assuming one tech 2 dda caldari and minmatar alphas will get about 55 dps from the 3 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Gallente and amarr will get about 108 dps from the 4 fed navy hobgoblins they can use.
Perhaps gallente amarr drone skills should be toned down or the missile and projectile gun damage should get a boost on this and the gnosis. Though the latter tweak may unbalance the gnosis and this ship for omegas.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
18030
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Posted - 2016.09.15 21:42:43 -
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gasp 108 dps oh no this is a real problem
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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TrouserDeagle
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
1272
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Posted - 2016.09.15 21:51:10 -
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t1 destroyer speed rebalance when |

Cearain
Plus 10 NV Cede Nullis
1479
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Posted - 2016.09.15 21:52:02 -
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Malcanis wrote:gasp 108 dps oh no this is a real problem
The difference is actually ony 53 dps between the two. But the damage on the whole for this ship is not looking that big so it is something.
And the issue is more considerable in the gnosis.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Ria Nieyli
46073
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Posted - 2016.09.15 22:24:26 -
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Looks like a fun ship to do the SoE arc with.
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Arcturus Ursidae
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
27
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Posted - 2016.09.15 22:35:18 -
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Cearain wrote:The racial imbalance from the gnosis is carried over to this ship as well but to a lesser extent.
Assuming one tech 2 dda caldari and minmatar alphas will get about 55 dps from the 3 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Gallente and amarr will get about 108 dps from the 4 fed navy hobgoblins they can use.
Perhaps gallente amarr drone skills should be toned down or the missile and projectile gun damage should get a boost on this and the gnosis. Though the latter tweak may unbalance the gnosis and this ship for omegas.
This is probably a fair point. The low drone skills on caldari and minmatar pilots are probably unnecessary.
Alphas are racially locked so are restricted by their races ship drone bandwidth limits anyway. Allowing drones 5, medium drone 2 at least makes no difference to many of the ships they can fly.
Probably feedback for the other thread. |
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3581
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Posted - 2016.09.16 00:31:55 -
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Regan Rotineque wrote:
I agree with this ro some extent.
I would prefer that ccp give a bpc not a fully built ship. Then people would have to access the sandbox to build their gift.
That being said I do support ccp being able to reward players and thank them for trying to come up with new and creative ways to show subscribers appreciation.
From memory to build the Gnosis is 1 Trit. This keeps it's insurance payout to about 5 isk for platinum meaning that it injects no isk into the economy for blowing up free ships. |

Regan Rotineque
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.09.16 01:18:49 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Regan Rotineque wrote:
I agree with this ro some extent.
I would prefer that ccp give a bpc not a fully built ship. Then people would have to access the sandbox to build their gift.
That being said I do support ccp being able to reward players and thank them for trying to come up with new and creative ways to show subscribers appreciation.
From memory to build the Gnosis is 1 Trit. This keeps it's insurance payout to about 5 isk for platinum meaning that it injects no isk into the economy for blowing up free ships.
ahh yes i had forgotten, been so long since i had the 5 bpc run.
as long as they give 1isk value ships then its not really a huge issue, though I still like the idea of bpc's to encourage people to get involved in some industry, and as a boost to miners. Imagine all the mineral sales if they handed out true bpc's and then the ships would have value for insurance.
Just a thought, but as I said I appreciate what ccp is trying to do. |

Circumstantial Evidence
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Posted - 2016.09.16 02:01:01 -
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Regan Rotineque wrote:... I still like the idea of bpc's to encourage people to get involved in some industry, and as a boost to miners. .... I appreciate what ccp is trying to do. I agree with you, in principle; I just want to point out the recent Citadel expansion. 1 free ship BPC would probably buff industry .0001% in comparison to the huge number of new capital modules which were introduced: on the 1 to 10 scale, I think they dialed it to 11. |

Fizzie Nova
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.09.16 02:06:10 -
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Fozzie,
When are we going to get a Covert Ops Battlcruiser....
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Blinky Jimmy
Salty Intent Escalating Entropy
15
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Posted - 2016.09.16 02:17:12 -
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Fizzie Nova wrote:Fozzie,
When are we going to get a Covert Ops Battlcruiser....
#MakeNestorsGreatAgain |

Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
18100
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Posted - 2016.09.16 02:20:54 -
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Blinky Jimmy wrote:Fizzie Nova wrote:Fozzie,
When are we going to get a Covert Ops Battlcruiser....
#MakeNestorsGreat Again fyp
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
2075
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Posted - 2016.09.16 04:56:03 -
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Arcturus Ursidae wrote: Alphas are racially locked so are restricted by their races ship drone bandwidth limits anyway. Allowing drones 5, medium drone 2 at least makes no difference to many of the ships they can fly.
Probably feedback for the other thread.
Excellent point, I wish we had an alpha states feedback thread already :(
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Luscius Uta
230
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Posted - 2016.09.16 07:58:08 -
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Obil Que wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Cargo capacity: 600 Excellent. I can put my packaged Apotheosis inside my Sunesis!
Now if only you could put your packaged Sunesis inside your Gnosis!
Workarounds are not bugfixes.
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erg cz
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
485
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Posted - 2016.09.16 08:12:47 -
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Cearain wrote:The racial imbalance from the gnosis is carried over to this ship as well but to a lesser extent.
Assuming one tech 2 dda caldari and minmatar alphas will get about 55 dps from the 3 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Gallente and amarr will get about 108 dps from the 4 fed navy hobgoblins they can use.
Perhaps gallente amarr drone skills should be toned down or the missile and projectile gun damage should get a boost on this and the gnosis. Though the latter tweak may unbalance the gnosis and this ship for omegas.
You would risk 30-40 mio ship with alpha clone? Remember - unlike Gnosis, that ship will be unique, no aniversary BPC, regular gifts etc... With current stats it will be too weak and too expensive for the combat, so it would be surely my new salvaging boat instead of catalist ;) High sec usage only. With 4 hard points and 4 drones it will be way too weak even with 4 mids and 4 lows. If it would cost 2-5 milions it could be used in combat but I do not expect the price to settle that low...
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Yahagi Sato
Monster Magnets
0
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Posted - 2016.09.16 09:34:42 -
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I think it will be easy to fit Sunesis to warpout below 2s, add 600m3 cargo bay and 4 mids.
P.S. I don't like drone skills imbalance between Amarr/Gallente and Caldari/Minmatar too.
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
3582
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Posted - 2016.09.16 10:53:39 -
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erg cz wrote:
You would risk 30-40 mio ship with alpha clone? Remember - unlike Gnosis, that ship will be unique, no anniversary BPC, regular gifts etc....
Says who.... I don't see CCP saying that this is an exclusive offer now and will never be released again. It's just the current gift and may be a future gift. Also people risk 30-40 mil ships in PvP all the time, why wouldn't they, it's chump change to anyone who has an account feeding isk to the PvP account. And even for an alpha clone you make that isk in short order. |

Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
460
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Posted - 2016.09.16 11:46:49 -
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I love this! I've waited for so long to see a true exploration-destroyer showing up. Sure, I'd like to have one as a regular ship instead of a one-time gift, but I'll take it.
I'm hoping a lot of people are stupid enough to flood the markets with the Sunesis, because if this happens, I'll stock up with enough of them to last the rest of my biological life, even if I lose one every week. |

Rin Aiko
CVT IND
0
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Posted - 2016.09.16 12:53:04 -
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Nice one CCP. Looks like an indirect bone to alphas.
I see what you did there. =ƒÿë=ƒÿÄ |

Soltys
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
152
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Posted - 2016.09.16 14:05:01 -
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Quote:Since it has very low skill requirements, any capsuleer can pilot it. It serves well in research and exploration but truly comes into its own in combat, with extremely fast align time.
Considering what jackdaw/hecate/astero can do with align times (all <1s with proper setups), with both of mentioned destroyers being - sorry but - flat out stupid, not sure if it qualifies as "extremely fast align time" =)
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Jonn Duune
Biomass Party
31
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Posted - 2016.09.16 14:38:34 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Blinky Jimmy wrote:Fizzie Nova wrote:Fozzie,
When are we going to get a Covert Ops Battlcruiser....
#MakeNestorsGreat Again fyp 
Nestors are actually pretty good, they just require a good sense of how to use them. You wouldn't use a cheese grater to hammer in a nail now, would you? (at least I hope not, but i'm sure some goons would)
My name is Jonn Duune, and I wholeheartedly support the message posted above.
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Cearain
Plus 10 NV Cede Nullis
1479
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Posted - 2016.09.16 14:40:55 -
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erg cz wrote:Cearain wrote:The racial imbalance from the gnosis is carried over to this ship as well but to a lesser extent.
Assuming one tech 2 dda caldari and minmatar alphas will get about 55 dps from the 3 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Gallente and amarr will get about 108 dps from the 4 fed navy hobgoblins they can use.
Perhaps gallente amarr drone skills should be toned down or the missile and projectile gun damage should get a boost on this and the gnosis. Though the latter tweak may unbalance the gnosis and this ship for omegas. You would risk 30-40 mio ship with alpha clone? ..
I don't think the decision will be obvious at all.
With the 1 billion isk you save for not having to plex your account you can buy 28 of these at 35 mill. Assuming they cost that much (because ccp is saying they will give these away at special occassions so I don't think they will cost nearly as much as gnosis.) Or you can spend that billion isk on a plex to be able to fly it with slightly better skills and t2 guns and drones.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Gerald Mardiska
Extraordinarii The Volition Cult
34
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Posted - 2016.09.16 15:06:58 -
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honestly.....SoCT ships never really interested me. im happy to see that there are new ships coming to the game i was just hoping for something a little more...skill intensive. however dont get me wrong the new destroyer is beautiful and all. |

Kenbones Valkyrie
Seventeenth Battalion Honorable Third Party
0
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Posted - 2016.09.16 15:19:52 -
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Cargo space is too big. 600 is the same size as a Dominix. |

Lugh Crow-Slave
3119
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Posted - 2016.09.16 15:41:00 -
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lol i love what they are doing to keep ppl from mass unsubbing do to the alphas like they did with the dailies
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Lugh Crow-Slave
3119
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Posted - 2016.09.16 15:45:22 -
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hey Fozzie i see you gave it a bonus to probe streanth but no reduction to cpu will this thing even be able to viably fit an expanded launcher?
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