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CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 14430	Posted - 2016.09.15 17:55:26 - [1] - Quote Hello everyone o/ Many of you have seen our recent news update revealing the celebratory rewards we're sending to subscribers over the next few months. The original update included this cryptic text: Quote: In addition to this, there are also rumors from an as of yet unidentified shipyard that indicate a new ship is about to be unveiled... Today we're ready to begin gathering feedback on this new ship that will be handed out as part of the celebration! The Sunesis is a new destroyer from the Society of Conscious Thought. Like its big brother the Gnosis, the Sunesis does not require advanced skill training to fly and gets all its bonuses from fixed role bonuses. It also shares the Gnosis' "jack of all trades" design philosophy, receiving bonuses to all major weapon types and being able to be tanked in any way desired. Here are the work in progress stats as they stand today. We'll be making tweaks as needed using your feedback and playtesting. Sunesis Role Bonus: 25% bonus to Small Energy Turret, Small Hybrid Turret and Small Projectile Turret damage 25% bonus to Light Missile and Rocket damage 50% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage 37.5% bonus to Core and Combat Scanner Probe strength Slot layout: 4H, 4M, 4L; 3 turrets, 3 launchers 3 Rig Slots, 400 Calibration Fittings: 63 PWG, 175 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 800 / 800 / 800 Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 27.5 / 27.5 / 27.5 / 27.5 Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 32.5 / 32.5 / 32.5 / 32.5 Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second) : 575 / 320 / 1.8 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 220 / 2 / 1,500,000 / 4.16s Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 35km / 550 / 6 Sensor strength: 10 Gravimetric Signature radius: 65 Cargo capacity: 600 To get this new ship for free, be subscribed before 23:59 UTC on September 16th 2016 and maintain an active subscription until the November expansion. We'll have this ship ready for playtesting on SISI as soon as possible so you folks can try it out there. Let us know what you think! Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/


CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 14430	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:01:06 - [2] - Quote Reserved Game Designer \| Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/

Bei ArtJay Questionable Circles Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 137	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:14:43 - [3] - Quote 4/4/4 - fun for everyone! <3 Also, WTB pics.

CCP Manifest C C P C C P Alliance 1243	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:18:24 - [4] - Quote Bei ArtJay wrote: 4/4/4 - fun for everyone! <3 Also, WTB pics. A pic is in the news item. ======== o7 _CCP Manifest \| Public Relations and Social Media \| @ccp_manifest_

Pyro Regyri Schneckt Pen Is Out 2	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:22:18 - [5] - Quote I don't need to cancel my current subscription and make a new to get these do I?
Amak Boma Dragon Factory Peoples United Republic Empire 205	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:22:29 - [6] - Quote drone bay?
Elizabeth Norn Nornir Research 964	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:22:33 - [7] - Quote What about the drone bay/bandwidth? Free 3rd party service 21 day trial, you keep the whole PLEX
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc 2072	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:23:39 - [8] - Quote Always amazed at the SoCT's cargo capacity. Frankly, other ship manufacturers should take inspiration from them... Apart from that, sounds like a fun ship to fly! It seems VERY powerful for a destroyer though, the 4 mids + 4 lows... What are the drone bandwidth and capacity BTW? EDIT: From the news, it's 20Mb/40m3 Signature Tanking Best Tanking [Ex-F] CEO - Eve-guides.fr Ultimate Citadel Guide - 2016 EVE Career Chart

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 14432	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:26:03 - [9] - Quote I missed adding the drone stats (20/40) in the first version of the OP, all fixed now. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie

Amak Boma Dragon Factory Peoples United Republic Empire 205	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:26:16 - [10] - Quote Altrue wrote: Always amazed at the SoCT's cargo capacity. Frankly, other ship manufacturers should take inspiration from them... Apart from that, sounds like a fun ship to fly! It seems VERY powerful for a destroyer though, the 4 mids + 4 lows... What are the drone bandwidth and capacity BTW? EDIT: From the news, it's 20Mb/40m3 Slot layout: 4 High 4 Mid 4 Low 3 Turret Slots 3 Launcher Slots 20 mbits drone bandwidth 40m3 dronebay


CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 14432	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:27:20 - [11] - Quote Amak Boma wrote: how the sunesis will be seeded? some lp store? blueprint copy as some rewards? Like its big brother the Gnosis, the Sunesis is a celebration gift given by CCP to our players at certain important points in EVE history. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie

Altrue Exploration Frontier inc 2072	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:33:40 - [12] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Like its big brother the Gnosis, the Sunesis is a celebration gift given by CCP to our players at certain important points in EVE history. Doesn't that bother you by the way? The EVE economy is almost entierly player-driven with player-made stuff. Injecting ships out of nowhere is fine when they have a way to be usefull without filling too much of a niche, like the Gnosis. But here, you have a destroyer that's clearly more unique in its stats (especially its ability to tank, but also it's ability to probe which is completely new for a destroyer)... It fills a niche, and this niche is entierly made of CCP-spawned items. I just find that weird for a sandbox. It's not the end of the world or anything, but it feels out of place. Signature Tanking Best Tanking [Ex-F] CEO - Eve-guides.fr Ultimate Citadel Guide - 2016 EVE Career Chart
Zappity Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde 3001	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:35:06 - [13] - Quote Altrue wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Like its big brother the Gnosis, the Sunesis is a celebration gift given by CCP to our players at certain important points in EVE history. Doesn't that bother you by the way? The EVE economy is almost entierly player-driven with player-made stuff. Injecting ships out of nowhere is fine when they have a way to be usefull without filling too much of a niche, like the Gnosis. But here, you have a destroyer that's clearly more unique in its stats (especially its ability to tank, but also it's ability to probe which is completely new for a destroyer)... It fills a niche, and this niche is entierly made of CCP-spawned items. I just find that weird for a sandbox. It's not the end of the world or anything, but it feels out of place. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Bei ArtJay Questionable Circles Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork 137	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:40:40 - [14] - Quote CCP Manifest wrote: Bei ArtJay wrote: 4/4/4 - fun for everyone! <3 Also, WTB pics. A pic is in the news item. Shiny!
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc 2072	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:43:50 - [15] - Quote Zappity wrote: And it messed with the Gnosis speculators which was amusing. Unless CCP introduces more Gnosii on a regular basis, the speculators merely had their investment delayed. Remember folks, you don't loose anything as long as you don't sell! And here I am talking like the true trader that I'm not. I will be interesting to see if the Sunesis or the Gnosis end up being the most used of the two though. Signature Tanking Best Tanking [Ex-F] CEO - Eve-guides.fr Ultimate Citadel Guide - 2016 EVE Career Chart
Regan Rotineque The Scope Gallente Federation 456	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:45:55 - [16] - Quote Altrue wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Like its big brother the Gnosis, the Sunesis is a celebration gift given by CCP to our players at certain important points in EVE history. Doesn't that bother you by the way? The EVE economy is almost entierly player-driven with player-made stuff. Injecting ships out of nowhere is fine when they have a way to be usefull without filling too much of a niche, like the Gnosis. But here, you have a destroyer that's clearly more unique in its stats (especially its ability to tank, but also it's ability to probe which is completely new for a destroyer)... It fills a niche, and this niche is entierly made of CCP-spawned items. I just find that weird for a sandbox. It's not the end of the world or anything, but it feels out of place. I agree with this ro some extent. I would prefer that ccp give a bpc not a fully built ship. Then people would have to access the sandbox to build their gift. That being said I do support ccp being able to reward players and thank them for trying to come up with new and creative ways to show subscribers appreciation.
Logan Jakal Blue Sun. DARKNESS. 12	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:50:19 - [17] - Quote So my question is not about the ship itself, but about the offer. Are PLEXed account eligible to this offer ?

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 14433	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:52:15 - [18] - Quote Logan Jakal wrote: So my question is not about the ship itself, but about the offer. Are PLEXed account eligible to this offer ? Yup Game Designer \| Team Five-0 Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie

Logan Jakal Blue Sun. DARKNESS. 12	Posted - 2016.09.15 18:56:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Logan Jakal wrote: So my question is not about the ship itself, but about the offer. Are PLEXed account eligible to this offer ? Yup Thank you Fozzie. Could be worth it to clarify this part in the news so people are aware of it :p
Alex Bloomingdale Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.09.15 19:04:09 - [20] - Quote Is this per active account or also per active character?

Rosal Milag Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 31	Posted - 2016.09.15 19:06:56 - [21] - Quote Altrue wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Like its big brother the Gnosis, the Sunesis is a celebration gift given by CCP to our players at certain important points in EVE history. Doesn't that bother you by the way? The EVE economy is almost entierly player-driven with player-made stuff. Injecting ships out of nowhere is fine when they have a way to be usefull without filling too much of a niche, like the Gnosis. But here, you have a destroyer that's clearly more unique in its stats (especially its ability to tank, but also it's ability to probe which is completely new for a destroyer)... It fills a niche, and this niche is entierly made of CCP-spawned items. I just find that weird for a sandbox. It's not the end of the world or anything, but it feels out of place. The T3 destroyers would like a word. They don't have a bonus to strength but they have the slot layout to make it work.
Ryuu Noctum 0	Posted - 2016.09.15 19:21:51 - [22] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: To get this new ship for free, be subscribed... Susbcribed also means accounts whit active plex right? Just another capsuler...
Ezra Endashi LightningStrikesTwice Elemental Tide 13	Posted - 2016.09.15 19:25:52 - [23] - Quote Thx CCP for making the offer available for PLEXed accounts
Minerva G'rizalda Elewaitor 0	Posted - 2016.09.15 19:31:08 - [24] - Quote Yea I am bad at reading.
Kovl Jita Flipping Inc. 60	Posted - 2016.09.15 19:33:04 - [25] - Quote Hmmmm, that would make me restart my farm day earlier than planned.
Chance Ravinne WiNGSPAN Delivery Services WiNGSPAN Delivery Network 667	Posted - 2016.09.15 19:47:37 - [26] - Quote Ship looks fun, especially for Alphas. Drone bandwidth is perfect, don't change it. Cargo bay seems huge to me. You've just read another awesome post by Chance Ravinne, CEO of EVE's #1 torpedo delivery service. Watch our misadventures on my YouTube channel: WINGSPANTT
Callic Veratar 683	Posted - 2016.09.15 19:54:52 - [27] - Quote Altrue wrote: Unless CCP introduces more Gnosii on a regular basis, the speculators merely had their investment delayed If I remember right, I think this is the 4th time they've added a wave of Gnosis to the game. As well, they're added with BPCs, not straight ships, so they don't appear for free. We got them for: 1 for EVE's 10th birthday 5 for EVE Collector's Edition 1 at some other point? 1 more now
Jin'taan Pentag Blade Curatores Veritatis Alliance 86	Posted - 2016.09.15 19:59:06 - [28] - Quote I approve of this addition to the frigate menace.
Muon Farstrider Partial Safety 38	Posted - 2016.09.15 20:03:38 - [29] - Quote I'm a little underwhelmed with the offensive stats. 4/4/4 with 3 turrets and launchers and a 25% role bonus to everything was about what I expected, even if 3.75 effective turrets/launchers is positively anemic for any destroyer, but if it's going to have such little direct firepower can it at least fly a full flight of drones? (For comparison, an Algos has 5 turrets and 15 mbit more bandwidth, while a dragoon has 6 turrets and 5 mbit more bandwidth.) The gnosis has a full 50 mbit of bandwidth and can therefore fly a full flight of size-appropriate drones, shouldn't this get the same? tl;dr dronebay can stay at 40 m^3, but IMO it should have 25 mbit of bandwidth.
FT Diomedes The Graduates 2683	Posted - 2016.09.15 20:03:40 - [30] - Quote Looks like fun. Thank you, CCP! CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

motie one Secret Passage 119	Posted - 2016.09.15 20:10:58 - [31] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Hello everyone o/ Many of you have seen our recent news update revealing the celebratory rewards we're sending to subscribers over the next few months. The original update included this cryptic text: Quote: In addition to this, there are also rumors from an as of yet unidentified shipyard that indicate a new ship is about to be unveiled... Today we're ready to begin gathering feedback on this new ship that will be handed out as part of the celebration! The Sunesis is a new destroyer from the Society of Conscious Thought. Like its big brother the Gnosis, the Sunesis does not require advanced skill training to fly and gets all its bonuses from fixed role bonuses. It also shares the Gnosis' "jack of all trades" design philosophy, receiving bonuses to all major weapon types and being able to be tanked in any way desired. Here are the work in progress stats as they stand today. We'll be making tweaks as needed using your feedback and playtesting. Sunesis GÇ£The Sunesis-class SoCT Destroyer allows any acolyte to protect the investigations and secrets of the society. Since it has very low skill requirements, any capsuleer can pilot it. It serves well in research and exploration but truly comes into its own in combat, with extremely fast align time. This is a ship that shows its value when understanding the universe requires a strong hand as well as a sharp mind." Role Bonus: 25% bonus to Small Energy Turret, Small Hybrid Turret and Small Projectile Turret damage 25% bonus to Light Missile and Rocket damage 50% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage 37.5% bonus to Core and Combat Scanner Probe strength Slot layout: 4H, 4M, 4L; 3 turrets, 3 launchers 3 Rig Slots, 400 Calibration Fittings: 63 PWG, 175 CPU Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 800 / 800 / 800 Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 27.5 / 27.5 / 27.5 / 27.5 Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 32.5 / 32.5 / 32.5 / 32.5 Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second) : 575 / 320 / 1.8 Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 220 / 2 / 1,500,000 / 4.16s Drones (bandwidth / bay): 20 / 40 Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 35km / 550 / 6 Sensor strength: 10 Gravimetric Signature radius: 65 Cargo capacity: 600 To get this new ship for free, be subscribed before 23:59 UTC on September 16th 2016 and maintain an active subscription until the November expansion. We'll have this ship ready for playtesting on SISI as soon as possible so you folks can try it out there. Let us know what you think! I like the drone bandwidth, that's 6 effective drones If I understand it right? I see you have not mentioned an exploration bonus, that would fit in well for the ship? Or would that make it too hard for explorer hunters? I think they could handle that? Just not a super soft target. Give it some thought, it would be a good addition.
Obil Que Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance 449	Posted - 2016.09.15 20:45:06 - [32] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Cargo capacity: 600 Excellent. I can put my packaged Apotheosis inside my Sunesis!
Petrified Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 421	Posted - 2016.09.15 21:02:49 - [33] - Quote Sweeeeeet. Love the SoCT Gnosis, so this destroyer will be welcomed. Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 18029	Posted - 2016.09.15 21:20:52 - [34] - Quote Altrue wrote: Zappity wrote: And it messed with the Gnosis speculators which was amusing. Unless CCP introduces more Gnosii 'Gnoses' "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
Cearain Plus 10 NV Cede Nullis 1479	Posted - 2016.09.15 21:21:18 - [35] - Quote The racial imbalance from the gnosis is carried over to this ship as well but to a lesser extent. Assuming one tech 2 dda caldari and minmatar alphas will get about 55 dps from the 3 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Gallente and amarr will get about 108 dps from the 4 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Perhaps gallente amarr drone skills should be toned down or the missile and projectile gun damage should get a boost on this and the gnosis. Though the latter tweak may unbalance the gnosis and this ship for omegas. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 18030	Posted - 2016.09.15 21:42:43 - [36] - Quote gasp 108 dps oh no this is a real problem "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 1272	Posted - 2016.09.15 21:51:10 - [37] - Quote t1 destroyer speed rebalance when
Cearain Plus 10 NV Cede Nullis 1479	Posted - 2016.09.15 21:52:02 - [38] - Quote Malcanis wrote: gasp 108 dps oh no this is a real problem The difference is actually ony 53 dps between the two. But the damage on the whole for this ship is not looking that big so it is something. And the issue is more considerable in the gnosis. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Ria Nieyli 46073	Posted - 2016.09.15 22:24:26 - [39] - Quote Looks like a fun ship to do the SoE arc with. "slang" is shortened language for "shortened language"
Arcturus Ursidae Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 27	Posted - 2016.09.15 22:35:18 - [40] - Quote Cearain wrote: The racial imbalance from the gnosis is carried over to this ship as well but to a lesser extent. Assuming one tech 2 dda caldari and minmatar alphas will get about 55 dps from the 3 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Gallente and amarr will get about 108 dps from the 4 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Perhaps gallente amarr drone skills should be toned down or the missile and projectile gun damage should get a boost on this and the gnosis. Though the latter tweak may unbalance the gnosis and this ship for omegas. This is probably a fair point. The low drone skills on caldari and minmatar pilots are probably unnecessary. Alphas are racially locked so are restricted by their races ship drone bandwidth limits anyway. Allowing drones 5, medium drone 2 at least makes no difference to many of the ships they can fly. Probably feedback for the other thread.

Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 3581	Posted - 2016.09.16 00:31:55 - [41] - Quote Regan Rotineque wrote: I agree with this ro some extent. I would prefer that ccp give a bpc not a fully built ship. Then people would have to access the sandbox to build their gift. That being said I do support ccp being able to reward players and thank them for trying to come up with new and creative ways to show subscribers appreciation. From memory to build the Gnosis is 1 Trit. This keeps it's insurance payout to about 5 isk for platinum meaning that it injects no isk into the economy for blowing up free ships.
Regan Rotineque The Scope Gallente Federation 459	Posted - 2016.09.16 01:18:49 - [42] - Quote Nevyn Auscent wrote: Regan Rotineque wrote: I agree with this ro some extent. I would prefer that ccp give a bpc not a fully built ship. Then people would have to access the sandbox to build their gift. That being said I do support ccp being able to reward players and thank them for trying to come up with new and creative ways to show subscribers appreciation. From memory to build the Gnosis is 1 Trit. This keeps it's insurance payout to about 5 isk for platinum meaning that it injects no isk into the economy for blowing up free ships. ahh yes i had forgotten, been so long since i had the 5 bpc run. as long as they give 1isk value ships then its not really a huge issue, though I still like the idea of bpc's to encourage people to get involved in some industry, and as a boost to miners. Imagine all the mineral sales if they handed out true bpc's and then the ships would have value for insurance. Just a thought, but as I said I appreciate what ccp is trying to do.
Circumstantial Evidence 362	Posted - 2016.09.16 02:01:01 - [43] - Quote Regan Rotineque wrote: ... I still like the idea of bpc's to encourage people to get involved in some industry, and as a boost to miners. .... I appreciate what ccp is trying to do. I agree with you, in principle; I just want to point out the recent Citadel expansion. 1 free ship BPC would probably buff industry .0001% in comparison to the huge number of new capital modules which were introduced: on the 1 to 10 scale, I think they dialed it to 11.
Fizzie Nova The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.09.16 02:06:10 - [44] - Quote Fozzie, When are we going to get a Covert Ops Battlcruiser....
Blinky Jimmy Salty Intent Escalating Entropy 15	Posted - 2016.09.16 02:17:12 - [45] - Quote Fizzie Nova wrote: Fozzie, When are we going to get a Covert Ops Battlcruiser.... #MakeNestorsGreatAgain
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 18100	Posted - 2016.09.16 02:20:54 - [46] - Quote Blinky Jimmy wrote: Fizzie Nova wrote: Fozzie, When are we going to get a Covert Ops Battlcruiser.... #MakeNestorsGreat~~Again~~ fyp Click me =]\|[=
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc 2075	Posted - 2016.09.16 04:56:03 - [47] - Quote Arcturus Ursidae wrote: Alphas are racially locked so are restricted by their races ship drone bandwidth limits anyway. Allowing drones 5, medium drone 2 at least makes no difference to many of the ships they can fly. Probably feedback for the other thread. Excellent point, I wish we had an alpha states feedback thread already :( Signature Tanking Best Tanking [Ex-F] CEO - Eve-guides.fr Ultimate Citadel Guide - 2016 EVE Career Chart
Luscius Uta 230	Posted - 2016.09.16 07:58:08 - [48] - Quote Obil Que wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Cargo capacity: 600 Excellent. I can put my packaged Apotheosis inside my Sunesis! Now if only you could put your packaged Sunesis inside your Gnosis! Workarounds are not bugfixes.
erg cz Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords 485	Posted - 2016.09.16 08:12:47 - [49] - Quote Cearain wrote: The racial imbalance from the gnosis is carried over to this ship as well but to a lesser extent. Assuming one tech 2 dda caldari and minmatar alphas will get about 55 dps from the 3 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Gallente and amarr will get about 108 dps from the 4 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Perhaps gallente amarr drone skills should be toned down or the missile and projectile gun damage should get a boost on this and the gnosis. Though the latter tweak may unbalance the gnosis and this ship for omegas. You would risk 30-40 mio ship with alpha clone? Remember - unlike Gnosis, that ship will be unique, no aniversary BPC, regular gifts etc... With current stats it will be too weak and too expensive for the combat, so it would be surely my new salvaging boat instead of catalist ;) High sec usage only. With 4 hard points and 4 drones it will be way too weak even with 4 mids and 4 lows. If it would cost 2-5 milions it could be used in combat but I do not expect the price to settle that low... Absolutely free trial extension. Just click the link and get your extra week of Eve for free!
Yahagi Sato Monster Magnets 0	Posted - 2016.09.16 09:34:42 - [50] - Quote I think it will be easy to fit Sunesis to warpout below 2s, add 600m3 cargo bay and 4 mids. P.S. I don't like drone skills imbalance between Amarr/Gallente and Caldari/Minmatar too.

Nevyn Auscent Broke Sauce 3582	Posted - 2016.09.16 10:53:39 - [51] - Quote erg cz wrote: You would risk 30-40 mio ship with alpha clone? Remember - unlike Gnosis, that ship will be unique, no anniversary BPC, regular gifts etc.... Says who.... I don't see CCP saying that this is an exclusive offer now and will never be released again. It's just the current gift and may be a future gift. Also people risk 30-40 mil ships in PvP all the time, why wouldn't they, it's chump change to anyone who has an account feeding isk to the PvP account. And even for an alpha clone you make that isk in short order.
Owen Levanth Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration 460	Posted - 2016.09.16 11:46:49 - [52] - Quote I love this! I've waited for so long to see a true exploration-destroyer showing up. Sure, I'd like to have one as a regular ship instead of a one-time gift, but I'll take it. I'm hoping a lot of people are stupid enough to flood the markets with the Sunesis, because if this happens, I'll stock up with enough of them to last the rest of my biological life, even if I lose one every week.
Rin Aiko CVT IND 0	Posted - 2016.09.16 12:53:04 - [53] - Quote Nice one CCP. Looks like an indirect bone to alphas. I see what you did there. =ƒÿë=ƒÿÄ
Soltys Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 152	Posted - 2016.09.16 14:05:01 - [54] - Quote Quote: Since it has very low skill requirements, any capsuleer can pilot it. It serves well in research and exploration but truly comes into its own in combat, with extremely fast align time. Considering what jackdaw/hecate/astero can do with align times (all <1s with proper setups), with both of mentioned destroyers being - sorry but - flat out stupid, not sure if it qualifies as "extremely fast align time" =) Jita Flipping Inc.: Solmp / Kovl
Jonn Duune Biomass Party 31	Posted - 2016.09.16 14:38:34 - [55] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Blinky Jimmy wrote: Fizzie Nova wrote: Fozzie, When are we going to get a Covert Ops Battlcruiser.... #MakeNestorsGreat~~Again~~ fyp Nestors are actually pretty good, they just require a good sense of how to use them. You wouldn't use a cheese grater to hammer in a nail now, would you? (at least I hope not, but i'm sure some goons would) My name is Jonn Duune, and I wholeheartedly support the message posted above.
Cearain Plus 10 NV Cede Nullis 1479	Posted - 2016.09.16 14:40:55 - [56] - Quote erg cz wrote: Cearain wrote: The racial imbalance from the gnosis is carried over to this ship as well but to a lesser extent. Assuming one tech 2 dda caldari and minmatar alphas will get about 55 dps from the 3 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Gallente and amarr will get about 108 dps from the 4 fed navy hobgoblins they can use. Perhaps gallente amarr drone skills should be toned down or the missile and projectile gun damage should get a boost on this and the gnosis. Though the latter tweak may unbalance the gnosis and this ship for omegas. You would risk 30-40 mio ship with alpha clone? .. I don't think the decision will be obvious at all. With the 1 billion isk you save for not having to plex your account you can buy 28 of these at 35 mill. Assuming they cost that much (because ccp is saying they will give these away at special occassions so I don't think they will cost nearly as much as gnosis.) Or you can spend that billion isk on a plex to be able to fly it with slightly better skills and t2 guns and drones. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Gerald Mardiska Extraordinarii The Volition Cult 34	Posted - 2016.09.16 15:06:58 - [57] - Quote honestly.....SoCT ships never really interested me. im happy to see that there are new ships coming to the game i was just hoping for something a little more...skill intensive. however dont get me wrong the new destroyer is beautiful and all.
Kenbones Valkyrie Seventeenth Battalion Honorable Third Party 0	Posted - 2016.09.16 15:19:52 - [58] - Quote Cargo space is too big. 600 is the same size as a Dominix.
Lugh Crow-Slave 3119	Posted - 2016.09.16 15:41:00 - [59] - Quote lol i love what they are doing to keep ppl from mass unsubbing do to the alphas like they did with the dailies BLOPS Hauler
Lugh Crow-Slave 3119	Posted - 2016.09.16 15:45:22 - [60] - Quote hey Fozzie i see you gave it a bonus to probe streanth but no reduction to cpu will this thing even be able to viably fit an expanded launcher? BLOPS Hauler

Luscius Uta 232	Posted - 2016.09.16 18:28:20 - [61] - Quote It is obvious that you want to keep a distinct naming pattern for SoCT ships, but does the name "Sunesis" mean anything? I think that "Genesis" would be a way cooler name. Workarounds are not bugfixes.

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 14440	Posted - 2016.09.16 18:58:22 - [62] - Quote Luscius Uta wrote: It is obvious that you want to keep a distinct naming pattern for SoCT ships, but does the name "Sunesis" mean anything? I think that "Genesis" would be a way cooler name. The name was chosen carefully :) Game Designer \| Team Five-0 Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie

Petrified Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 422	Posted - 2016.09.16 19:29:28 - [63] - Quote Altrue wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Like its big brother the Gnosis, the Sunesis is a celebration gift given by CCP to our players at certain important points in EVE history. Doesn't that bother you by the way? The EVE economy is almost entierly player-driven with player-made stuff. Injecting ships out of nowhere is fine when they have a way to be usefull without filling too much of a niche, like the Gnosis. But here, you have a destroyer that's clearly more unique in its stats (especially its ability to tank, but also it's ability to probe which is completely new for a destroyer)... It fills a niche, and this niche is entierly made of CCP-spawned items. I just find that weird for a sandbox. It's not the end of the world or anything, but it feels out of place. 1 - Since this is not a regular occurrence, it does not break anything. The numbers will always be limited to a certain amount (the number of active accounts at the time of the dispersal). 2 - Since the gnosis has been given out freely before, people speculating on it kinda are foolish since it can be given out freely again. 3 - Given that Players are not the only entities in EVE, it makes sense for them to occasionally reward and placate us with gifts. Just be glad the gift is not based on security status... though, that would be an interesting twist at some point. 4 - the personal reason: I love my Gnosis and actually fly them and lose them. I would hate to have to pay hundreds of millions of isk for the ship in the future so CCP injecting them now and again is fine with me. Better would be for them to simply elevate SoCT into a proper mission giving group and add the Gnosis and Sunesis as full fledged ships you can obtain for LP. Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.
Cade Windstalker 552	Posted - 2016.09.16 19:29:35 - [64] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Luscius Uta wrote: It is obvious that you want to keep a distinct naming pattern for SoCT ships, but does the name "Sunesis" mean anything? I think that "Genesis" would be a way cooler name. The name was chosen carefully :) I always love where you guys pull these names from. Mythology and ancient cultures FTW! Even if it does mean that my Cov Ops ship (as I named it) now shares a name with the Gallente T3D hull
Petrified Old and Petrified Syndication TOG - The Older Gamers Alliance 422	Posted - 2016.09.16 19:32:10 - [65] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Luscius Uta wrote: It is obvious that you want to keep a distinct naming pattern for SoCT ships, but does the name "Sunesis" mean anything? I think that "Genesis" would be a way cooler name. The name was chosen carefully :) So... Bring together? Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.
Blavish Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 14	Posted - 2016.09.17 08:57:07 - [66] - Quote Pls give bigger drone bandwidth
GeeShizzle MacCloud 593	Posted - 2016.09.17 14:14:12 - [67] - Quote Quote: 37.5% bonus to Core and Combat Scanner Probe strength ... Slot layout: 4H, 4M, 4L; 3 turrets, 3 launchers Fittings: 63 PWG, 175 CPU heh, really? you may as well drop the addition of combat scanner probe strength bonus if you're not adding a bonus to reduce CPU on probe launchers. theres no reason to have it on if all you can do is warp to a player and die cause u cant fit anything else on your ship.
Norn Thilnir Naragnir 12	Posted - 2016.09.17 14:22:08 - [68] - Quote I am all in favour of rewarding loyal customers with a fancy unique ship once in a while. Funny fact: my account expired the 8th of this month. Busy with work I only checked up on EVE today. Whoops, missed the reward. \o/ /o\
Mustike Oschtschocha Summer of Mumuit 4	Posted - 2016.09.17 15:47:33 - [69] - Quote Some suggestions: -> Increase bandwith to 25 mbit and bay to 50 -> increase speed to about 250 -> reduce intertia, that ship has the same algin time as a ceptor -> would it also be possibile to make a small balance pass to the gnosis? This ship is fairly slow and algins faster than most frigs(give it about 150 speed and increse algin time to 8 sec, like most other BC's), also increasing the dps bonus to 50%(like all the other BC's would be great) just my 2 cents, but it is a nice ship
RainReaper RRN Assembly INC 43	Posted - 2016.09.17 16:06:40 - [70] - Quote Soooo what happens if your subscription accidentaly runs out for 1-2 hours and then gets reneved? Is any chance of you geting the gifts lost then?

elitatwo Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance 1408	Posted - 2016.09.19 22:11:45 - [71] - Quote Mustike Oschtschocha wrote: Some suggestions: -> Increase bandwith to 25 mbit and bay to 50 -> increase speed to about 250 -> reduce intertia, that ship has the same algin time as a ceptor -> would it also be possibile to make a small balance pass to the gnosis? This ship is fairly slow and algins faster than most frigs(give it about 150 speed and increse algin time to 8 sec, like most other BC's), also increasing the dps bonus to 50%(like all the other BC's would be great) just my 2 cents, but it is a nice ship I do hate to repeat myself every time a new ship enters New Eden. You do know that you have to apply your bookshelf to any boat that enters New Eden, do you? The stats listed here are that stats on the boat with 0 skillpoints. Now apply your skillpoints in navigation, engineering, shields, armor, hull, drones and guns to it and it will look a little different. Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them correctly. Small gang and solo action in high, low and nullsec and w-space alike. We will teach you everything you need and want to know.
Henry Plantgenet Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2016.09.20 11:41:10 - [72] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Luscius Uta wrote: It is obvious that you want to keep a distinct naming pattern for SoCT ships, but does the name "Sunesis" mean anything? I think that "Genesis" would be a way cooler name. The name was chosen carefully :) leads to: "WARNING! Hackers are spamming our forums with links leading to key-loggers/Trojans and then ruining the accounts of players that navigate to those links. You have chosen to follow an external link. This link leads to a site outside of the control of CCP and, as such, we cannot offer any guarantee of its safety. Please check that the URL shown below is what you expected it to be before following it. If you wish to proceed please click the link below, or press your browsers back button to return to where you were." Do i trust CCP fozzie links? hmmmm Also how do we pronounce this new ship name?
Soldarius O C C U P Y Test Alliance Please Ignore 1532	Posted - 2016.09.20 13:49:43 - [73] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Luscius Uta wrote: It is obvious that you want to keep a distinct naming pattern for SoCT ships, but does the name "Sunesis" mean anything? I think that "Genesis" would be a way cooler name. The name was chosen carefully :) Carefully? Very interesting. The genitive case is typically used to show possession or some sort of relationship to something else. Regardless of any hidden meaning (which imo would be counter to the actual word), it matches Gnosis very well. http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
FT Diomedes The Graduates 2689	Posted - 2016.09.20 18:12:42 - [74] - Quote GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote: Quote: 37.5% bonus to Core and Combat Scanner Probe strength ... Slot layout: 4H, 4M, 4L; 3 turrets, 3 launchers Fittings: 63 PWG, 175 CPU heh, really? you may as well drop the addition of combat scanner probe strength bonus if you're not adding a bonus to reduce CPU on probe launchers. theres no reason to have it on if all you can do is warp to a player and die cause u cant fit anything else on your ship. This is a valid concern. CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

CCP Fozzie C C P C C P Alliance 14475	Posted - 2016.09.21 15:25:33 - [75] - Quote FT Diomedes wrote: GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote: Quote: 37.5% bonus to Core and Combat Scanner Probe strength ... Slot layout: 4H, 4M, 4L; 3 turrets, 3 launchers Fittings: 63 PWG, 175 CPU heh, really? you may as well drop the addition of combat scanner probe strength bonus if you're not adding a bonus to reduce CPU on probe launchers. theres no reason to have it on if all you can do is warp to a player and die cause u cant fit anything else on your ship. This is a valid concern. We expect that the bonus will primarily be used for core probe launchers. However bonuses to one tend to apply to both and we don't see the need to make an exception for this case. The Astero is in a similar situation and that worked out fine. Game Designer \| Team Five-0 Twitter: @CCP_Fozzie Twitch chat: ccp_fozzie

Swiftstrike1 Swiftstrike Incorporated 912	Posted - 2016.09.21 16:29:16 - [76] - Quote Slot layout is closer to a frigate than a destroyer lol Casual Incursion runner & Faction Warfare grunt, ex-Wormholer, ex-Nullbear.
FT Diomedes The Graduates 2690	Posted - 2016.09.21 17:28:49 - [77] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: FT Diomedes wrote: GeeShizzle MacCloud wrote: Quote: 37.5% bonus to Core and Combat Scanner Probe strength ... Slot layout: 4H, 4M, 4L; 3 turrets, 3 launchers Fittings: 63 PWG, 175 CPU heh, really? you may as well drop the addition of combat scanner probe strength bonus if you're not adding a bonus to reduce CPU on probe launchers. theres no reason to have it on if all you can do is warp to a player and die cause u cant fit anything else on your ship. This is a valid concern. We expect that the bonus will primarily be used for core probe launchers. However bonuses to one tend to apply to both and we don't see the need to make an exception for this case. The Astero is in a similar situation and that worked out fine. Thank you for the reply. I agree that the Astero is a fine ship for core probe launchers. I appreciate the expectation management for the Sunesis. CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
Oxigun Halliburton Heavy Industries IT'S ONLY PIXELS 32	Posted - 2016.09.21 17:35:48 - [78] - Quote CCP Fozzie wrote: Luscius Uta wrote: It is obvious that you want to keep a distinct naming pattern for SoCT ships, but does the name "Sunesis" mean anything? I think that "Genesis" would be a way cooler name. The name was chosen carefully :) The name may have been chosen carefully but the spelling translation is not correct. The correct phonetic pronunciation of -â-à+++¦-â+¦-é in the English language is Synesis as the web page you linked correctly identifies. Your chosen name pronunciation is soonesis...
Mr Grape Drink No Prisoners Who. 85	Posted - 2016.09.21 19:23:45 - [79] - Quote Oxigun wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Luscius Uta wrote: It is obvious that you want to keep a distinct naming pattern for SoCT ships, but does the name "Sunesis" mean anything? I think that "Genesis" would be a way cooler name. The name was chosen carefully :) The name may have been chosen carefully but the spelling translation is not correct. The correct phonetic pronunciation of -â-à+++¦-â+¦-é in the English language is Synesis as the web page you linked correctly identifies. Your chosen name pronunciation is soonesis... Transliteration of the word is in fact Sunesis, which is how they should spell it
Cristl 486	Posted - 2016.09.22 00:56:52 - [80] - Quote Transliteration is usually taken to be sunesis (first syllable rhyming with 'uni') for the meaning knowledge, consciousness etc., for example in biblical exegesis. Synesis is used for the grammatical sense.

Ion Blacknight The Graduates The Initiative. 30	Posted - 2016.09.23 02:39:05 - [81] - Quote Kenbones Valkyrie wrote: Cargo space is too big. 600 is the same size as a Dominix. All battleships have disproportionately small cargo bays. War reports: Blacknight active
erg cz Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords 489	Posted - 2016.09.23 07:43:36 - [82] - Quote Ion Blacknight wrote: Kenbones Valkyrie wrote: Cargo space is too big. 600 is the same size as a Dominix. All battleships have disproportionately small cargo bays. Thats why CCP gave us marauders... Absolutely free trial extension. Just click the link and get your extra week of Eve for free!
Henry Plantgenet Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2016.09.23 10:06:02 - [83] - Quote i don't know the mathematics.... But how fast would this ship go with 50MN microwarpdrive, no overdrive injectors?
Mole Guy Band of Builders Inc. Silent Infinity 453	Posted - 2016.09.24 19:48:18 - [84] - Quote its been 9 years and still no progress on the rorqual. promises, promises. and now this? had you put it out AFTER the proposed rorqual changes, id prolly like it. who cares?
PhosGate Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.09.27 09:01:31 - [85] - Quote Personally I like the slot layout and the drones I just think the defense is lacking. Base stats should be 1000 shield/armor/hull giving it a 1250 across the board after skills. Being much more tanky gives it a role somewhere between tier one and tier two dessies. It also makes sense if you break it down from the Gnosis and fill in the rest of the SoCT line if it is decided to fill out the line (and you should, me wants a 7/7/7 BS) Gnosis: 6/6/6 and base 4000 S/A/H, 5000 after skills future cruiser: 5/5/5 base 2000 S/A/H, 2500 after skills Sunesis: 4/4/4 and base 1000 S/A/H, 1250 after skills future frigate: 3/3/3/ base 500 S/A/H, 675 after skills **future BS: 7/7/7 base 8000 S/A/H, 10000 after skills Defense doubling from the previous ship as you scale up the line from frigate to battleship, much like you add one to every slot as you scale up. logical progression and allows for good defense yet lacking projection as the hallmark of the SoCT line.
Ion Blacknight The Graduates The Initiative. 31	Posted - 2016.09.28 18:16:50 - [86] - Quote erg cz wrote: Ion Blacknight wrote: Kenbones Valkyrie wrote: Cargo space is too big. 600 is the same size as a Dominix. All battleships have disproportionately small cargo bays. Thats why CCP gave us marauders... No, it isn't. War reports: Blacknight active
Aaron Raus Diving club 21	Posted - 2016.09.29 13:43:13 - [87] - Quote PhosGate wrote: Personally I like the slot layout and the drones I just think the defense is lacking. Base stats should be 1000 shield/armor/hull giving it a 1250 across the board after skills. Being much more tanky gives it a role somewhere between tier one and tier two dessies. It also makes sense if you break it down from the Gnosis and fill in the rest of the SoCT line if it is decided to fill out the line (and you should, me wants a 7/7/7 BS) Gnosis: 6/6/6 and base 4000 S/A/H, 5000 after skills future cruiser: 5/5/5 base 2000 S/A/H, 2500 after skills Sunesis: 4/4/4 and base 1000 S/A/H, 1250 after skills future frigate: 3/3/3/ base 500 S/A/H, 675 after skills **future BS: 7/7/7 base 8000 S/A/H, 10000 after skills Defense doubling from the previous ship as you scale up the line from frigate to battleship, much like you add one to every slot as you scale up. logical progression and allows for good defense yet lacking projection as the hallmark of the SoCT line. future cruiser: 5/5/5 is ok - Stratios works just fine. But 3/3/3 for frigate? Umm, with enormous drone bay - than may be... something like a tristan
March rabbit Mosquito Squadron The-Culture 1922	Posted - 2016.10.06 12:35:25 - [88] - Quote Logan Jakal wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Logan Jakal wrote: So my question is not about the ship itself, but about the offer. Are PLEXed account eligible to this offer ? Yup Thank you Fozzie. Could be worth it to clarify this part in the news so people are aware of it :p They said "subscribed" which means "paid by RL money" or "PLEXed" The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Nya Kittenheart Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 40	Posted - 2016.10.13 23:49:48 - [89] - Quote Any chance we get the +10 bonus to relic and data analyser virus strenght on both the Sunesis and Gnosis ?you ll already given that bonus for free with the SOE ship line (please remenber astero do not have the skill requirement of a COV ops). Would be nice especially when u brand those ship as exploration ones ...
Captain Campion Captain Campion Corporation 1 28	Posted - 2016.10.15 10:48:08 - [90] - Quote March rabbit wrote: Logan Jakal wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Logan Jakal wrote: So my question is not about the ship itself, but about the offer. Are PLEXed account eligible to this offer ? Yup Thank you Fozzie. Could be worth it to clarify this part in the news so people are aware of it :p They said "subscribed" which means "paid by RL money" or "PLEXed" It is confusing because account management says my subscription is cancelled. So if there's a gift only to active subscriptions it sounds like I wouldn't get it. But my subscription is cancelled because it's prepaid for a couple of years. So I really should be getting the gifts. Hopefully Fozzie's comment about plex implies it's not based on the credit card subscription so it should work out... hopefully.

Owen Levanth Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration 485	Posted - 2016.10.15 12:01:01 - [91] - Quote Captain Campion wrote: March rabbit wrote: Logan Jakal wrote: CCP Fozzie wrote: Logan Jakal wrote: So my question is not about the ship itself, but about the offer. Are PLEXed account eligible to this offer ? Yup Thank you Fozzie. Could be worth it to clarify this part in the news so people are aware of it :p They said "subscribed" which means "paid by RL money" or "PLEXed" It is confusing because account management says my subscription is cancelled. So if there's a gift only to active subscriptions it sounds like I wouldn't get it. But my subscription is cancelled because it's prepaid for a couple of years. So I really should be getting the gifts. Hopefully Fozzie's comment about plex implies it's not based on the credit card subscription so it should work out... hopefully. Yeah, he straight up said plexed accounts get the new stuff, too. If you're really anxious about free stuff, just screenshot his post or something so you can show it to the support if it doesn't work out.
Nya Kittenheart Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 41	Posted - 2016.10.21 11:13:47 - [92] - Quote Nya Kittenheart wrote: Any chance we get the +10 bonus to relic and data analyser virus strenght on both the Sunesis and Gnosis ?you ve already given that bonus for free to the SOE ship line (please remenber astero do not have the skill requirement of a COV ops). Would be nice especially when u brand those ship as exploration ones ... Any chance i get an answer please? 1/yes we may envisage it 2/ No,us as the developping teams blah blah blah reasons Quote: Sunesis GÇ£The Sunesis-class SoCT Destroyer .... It serves well in research and exploration but truly comes into its own in combat, with extremely fast align time. How can he serve ? if you only giving it half the bonus. In hope of a positive answer
Moni TrueColor S.M.O.G Supermans-Of-Germany 0	Posted - 2016.10.21 11:38:01 - [93] - Quote I think too, its better with 25 mBits But amazed style ... looks nice XD
Claire -58x Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2016.10.21 11:45:49 - [94] - Quote possibly the most ugly ship in EVE?
Nya Kittenheart Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 41	Posted - 2016.10.22 10:36:33 - [95] - Quote Kind of crazy idea came too me :) It doesn't exist in the game a small/mid sized hauler with cargo scan immunity. With the cargohold size of the Sunesis +4 lows+3 rigs slot+ decently fast align time, wouldnt it be interesting to turn that into a small capacity high evasion hauler? With no cov ops it s still fairly catchable in low and null(maybe) and cargo scan immunity would give interesting interactions in high sec .Otherwise the ship seems a little weak in my opinion.
motie one Secret Passage 124	Posted - 2016.10.26 22:03:42 - [96] - Quote Nya Kittenheart wrote: Kind of crazy idea came too me :) It doesn't exist in the game a small/mid sized hauler with cargo scan immunity. With the cargohold size of the Sunesis +4 lows+3 rigs slot+ decently fast align time, wouldnt it be interesting to turn that into a small capacity high evasion hauler? With no cov ops it s still fairly catchable in low and null(maybe) and cargo scan immunity would give interesting interactions in high sec .Otherwise the ship seems a little weak in my opinion. The problem is that some players like to play the Blockade runner lottery, cargo scan immunity, can cause issues where players take the chance that it might be full of plex, and It would not take too expensive a gank ship to pop one of these. It would tend to result in all these new players we are expecting, getting popped in an unholy massacre, which would not be good for the future of these alphas. Of course, some will claim that killing players en mass will lead to improved retention, and quote CCP rise, but batshit crazy, is batshit crazy, no matter who one quotes.
PhosGate Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2016.10.27 07:38:25 - [97] - Quote Ghost fitting works for this on SISI now Fitting for it is generous: AAR, AR2, EANM and DC2 lows Compact 10mn and T2 web, scram, s cap booster mids trio of 200mm and a rocket launcher highs Rage and RF EMP T2 poly, T2 aux pump and a T1 acr for rigs hob2s yields @270 deeps heated, @1880 m/s heated, @2.4s align, @6400 EHP everything heated and it's cap stabile in the mid 50% range Armor buffer fits possible Twin medium ASB fits possible but resists are bad - mid 30s MSE, AIF2 scram fits work if that's your thing Hull buffer works but Algos does it better *not bad.....I'd still like to see 1000 base shield armor and hull...... just 'cause PVE fit with MAP, Co-Proc, DDA2 and DC2 in lows lets you fit two RF MSEs, AIF2 and Compact 10mn getting 20k EHP with T2 extender rigs and still have room for several different non laser turrets and a sisters probe launcher S Poly 2, S LFNJ 2 and S LFNJ 1 drops align below 2s
Henry Plantgenet Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 136	Posted - 2016.10.28 21:20:41 - [98] - Quote Does this now mean we have to be subbed for another week to get the rewards? Well played CCP, well played.
nate albush Jian Products Engineering Group Circle-Of-Two 17	Posted - 2016.10.29 02:05:05 - [99] - Quote Finally we have a new destroyer :D I really do hope for more faction destroyers like amarr faction destroyers and all that though I'm glad we have a gnosis type Dessie :D
elitatwo Eve Minions O.U.Z.O. Alliance 1442	Posted - 2016.10.29 10:00:46 - [100] - Quote Could be an interesting boat. How many do we get? If those are another one time thing, may I suggest a name change to more accurately describe the function of this boat? I suggest "free-killmail" or "gank-mah-now". It's not that the boat is bad, people are bad. If I would be a gambling type, my bet is that it takes less than an hour before the first one goes poof. Eve Minions is recruiting. Learn from about pvp, learn about ships and how to fly them. This is the law

Golemag Deep Space Explorers Inc. GaNg BaNg TeAm 10	Posted - 2016.11.12 02:49:21 - [101] - Quote Yes, GIFT us another USELESS ship please! Gnosis at least had some idea behind it. I am not against introducing new ships, i am against introducing NEW USELESS SHIPS as a way to boost your income. Something like a silent "thanks for nothing" towards the users. It would have been worthy as a gift it had any real use in the current ship tree. (Other then it's unique by nature) I am not trying to troll. I am just saying that most of the players are not idiots, and they can clearly see behind the act of "gifting something that is of no use".
Dornier Pfeil Caldari Provisions Caldari State 19	Posted - 2016.11.14 15:54:48 - [102] - Quote Golemag wrote: Yes, GIFT us another USELESS ship please! Gnosis at least had some idea behind it. I am not against introducing new ships, i am against introducing NEW USELESS SHIPS as a way to boost your income. Something like a silent "thanks for nothing" towards the users. It would have been worthy as a gift it had any real use in the current ship tree. (Other then it's unique by nature) I am not trying to troll. I am just saying that most of the players are not idiots, and they can clearly see behind the act of "gifting something that is of no use". Can I have yours?
Gadget Helmsdottir Gadget's Workshop 454	Posted - 2016.11.14 18:36:56 - [103] - Quote Dornier Pfeil wrote: Golemag wrote: Yes, GIFT us another USELESS ship please! Gnosis at least had some idea behind it. I am not against introducing new ships, i am against introducing NEW USELESS SHIPS as a way to boost your income. Something like a silent "thanks for nothing" towards the users. It would have been worthy as a gift it had any real use in the current ship tree. (Other then it's unique by nature) I am not trying to troll. I am just saying that most of the players are not idiots, and they can clearly see behind the act of "gifting something that is of no use". Can I have yours? Dibs on the second one! The one from your mining account... --Gadget Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
Aaron Raus Diving club 21	Posted - 2016.11.15 08:50:12 - [104] - Quote Golemag wrote: I am not against introducing new ships, i am against introducing NEW USELESS SHIPS as a way to boost your income. Something like a silent "thanks for nothing" towards the users. Hands off from my salvage boat! 4 salvage drones will clear the mission wrecks cloud after my mtu while I scan local signatures like a pro !
Dakard Deninard Serenity Cartel Spaceship Samurai 0	Posted - 2016.11.15 14:11:51 - [105] - Quote So um, expansion is here but no free gifts??? Where are our freebies for paying customers??
Stryider Tivianne Equity 4	Posted - 2016.11.15 15:46:04 - [106] - Quote Dakard Deninard wrote: So um, expansion is here but no free gifts??? Where are our freebies for paying customers?? Upvoted. The only reason I logged in before classes at the Uni today. Also, o7 SS.
MAS0RAKSH Black Serpent Technologies The-Culture 15	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:41:57 - [107] - Quote thanks for the gifts... where are they? did you leave them cloaked in space for us? jove observatories now have a hangar with a bpc? Jovian repositories and caches decloaking throughout eve for us to entosis for a bpc in a can?
Carlossus Aliastra Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2016.11.15 17:55:00 - [108] - Quote came back after work, excited to see my free gifts. but there are none. disappointing.
ColdCutz Frigonometry 131	Posted - 2016.11.16 12:26:35 - [109] - Quote patiently waits until November 30th.....
Kami Ringo Effective Unit 1	Posted - 2016.11.16 19:46:32 - [110] - Quote Any official comments? Even no 'sorry, we ****** up'? =\

Andreve en Distel Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance 4	Posted - 2016.11.16 23:16:33 - [111] - Quote Kami Ringo wrote: Any official comments? Even no 'sorry, we ****** up'? =\ You mean aside from the official update that was posted about 4 hours before your comment? November 22nd is the official date, as stated here.
Kami Ringo Effective Unit 1	Posted - 2016.11.17 09:09:53 - [112] - Quote Andreve en Distel wrote: Kami Ringo wrote: Any official comments? Even no 'sorry, we **** up'? =\ You mean aside from the official update that was posted about 4 hours before your comment? November 22nd is the official date, as stated here. Ok. Sorry, I **** up :D Thank you.
Henry Plantgenet Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 138	Posted - 2016.11.17 14:03:40 - [113] - Quote Does eligible account mean subscribed until the november patch or 22nd of november now? :3
sero Hita Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 282	Posted - 2016.11.19 18:31:35 - [114] - Quote Henry Plantgenet wrote: Does eligible account mean subscribed until the november patch or 22nd of november now? :3 tricky reading is "I'm all for pvp, don't get me wrong. I've ganked in Empire, blobed in low sec. Got T-shirts from every which-where.. But to be forced into a pvp confrontation that I didn't want is wrong ccp." RealFlisker
Gadget Helmsdottir Gadget's Workshop 465	Posted - 2016.11.19 21:37:41 - [115] - Quote sero Hita wrote: tricky reading is Someone's going to need to translate this for me. Which type of pidgin is this pilot using? --Gadget Work smarter, not harder. --Scrooge McDuck, an eminent old-Earth economist
Maxis Lithium Undead Dragons Dragon Knights Inc 1	Posted - 2016.11.20 10:25:48 - [116] - Quote I really like this ship and am looking forward to use it to do high sec and low sec combat sigs.
Utremi Fasolasi The Scope Gallente Federation 490	Posted - 2016.11.21 21:50:11 - [117] - Quote Just checked this out on Sisi and the design is pretty lit.
DrysonBennington Eagle's Talon's 304	Posted - 2016.12.13 23:32:10 - [118] - Quote Any new ship is good. Even if that ship is a mini-freighter meant to haul rubber Snarl Cat poop from Jita.
Darkwing Fiftytwo Zebra Corp Goonswarm Federation 23	Posted - 2016.12.28 20:34:16 - [119] - Quote Kinda needs more CPU, or reduced CPU usage for probe scanner, kinda pointless to have a bonus to probe launchers if you can barely fit them. Edit: Right it can only fit the regular probe launcher. I get it. :(


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