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Zyrla Bladestorm	Posted - 2003.12.24 21:49:00 - [31] Edited by: Zyrla Bladestorm on 24/12/2003 21:50:45 I have to agree to an extent jo, the stats look like theyre most of the way there now, but most of them have parts that would mean it didn't quite work yet .. on the other hand theyre further along than the cruiser variants (try broadsword or glaive in an eve-db search for examples) which still look to have beta placeholder stats (ie 150 structure :P) edit: then again a dev also said "they wont be on tq for a while" talking about the elite frigs :) . ----- Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.12.24 22:01:00 - [32] "(try broadsword or glaive in an eve-db search for examples)" Whoa, now that's something new there... Role: Battlecruiser yumm. :s (wonder why the requirements of Repair Systems skill to fly these, though...)
DarK	Posted - 2003.12.25 02:09:00 - [33] try: eagle, vulture, falcon. Caldari ships are easy to find..just use bird names.
Jacen Solo	Posted - 2003.12.28 23:05:00 - [34] I prefer a Raptor-class frigate: NameRaptor GroupElite Frigate RaceCaldari DescriptionHull: Condor Class Role: Interceptor Frigate Developer: Lai Dai Lai Dai ships favor a balanced mix of ship systems making them very versatile but also making them less powerful in specific tactics. Race Bonus: 30% Small Hybrid turret range bonus Role Bonus: 10% Reduced signature Radius Per Interceptor Skill Level Base Price192590 Structure hp180 Capacitym3 Drone Capacity0 m3 Mass1680000 kg Volume18000 m3 Signature Radius21 Max Velocity330 m/s Armor Armor220 hp Armor Em Damage Resistance60% Armor Explosive Damage Resistance9% Armor Kinetic Damage Resistance44% Armor Thermal Damage Resistance44% Shield Shield HP265 hp Shield Recharge Time500.00s Shield Em Damage Resistance0% Shield Explosive Damage Resistance60% Shield Kinetic Damage Resistance50% Shield Thermal Damage Resistance30% Capacitor Capacitor Capacity125 Recharge time93 s Targeting Maximum Targeting Range35000 m Max Locked Targets4 Scan Speed3.00 s Scan Resolution LADAR Sensor Strengthpoints Magnetometric Sensor Strengthpoints RADAR Sensor Strengthpoints Gravimetric Sensor Strength9 points Fitting CPU100 tf Powergrid25 MW LowSlots4 MedSlots3 HiSlots4 Turret hardpoints2 Launcher hardpoints2 Required Skills Primary Skill requiredCaldari Frigate Level 5 Secondary Skill requiredInterceptors Level 4 or a Crow-class: NameCrow GroupElite Frigate RaceCaldari DescriptionHull: Condor Class Role: Interceptor Developer: Kaalakiota Corp As befits the one of the largest weapon manufacturer in the known world Kaalakiota ships are very combat focused. Favoring the Caldarian traditional long range combat strategy they are designed around a substantial number of weapon systems especialy missile launchers. However they are generaly rather lightly defended and ill suited for extended battles. Race Bonus: 30% Small Hybrid turret range bonus Role Bonus: 10% Reduced signature Radius Per Interceptor Skill Level Base Price197790 Structure hp180 Capacitym3 Drone Capacity0 m3 Mass1680000 kg Volume18000 m3 Signature Radius21 Max Velocity330 m/s Armor Armor220 hp Armor Em Damage Resistance70% Armor Explosive Damage Resistance9% Armor Kinetic Damage Resistance35% Armor Thermal Damage Resistance44% Shield Shield HP265 hp Shield Recharge Time500.00s Shield Em Damage Resistance9% Shield Explosive Damage Resistance60% Shield Kinetic Damage Resistance40% Shield Thermal Damage Resistance30% Capacitor Capacitor Capacity125 Recharge time93 s Targeting Maximum Targeting Range35000 m Max Locked Targets4 Scan Speed3.00 s Scan Resolution LADAR Sensor Strengthpoints Magnetometric Sensor Strengthpoints RADAR Sensor Strengthpoints Gravimetric Sensor Strength9 points Fitting CPU100 tf Powergrid25 MW LowSlots3 MedSlots2 HiSlots5 Turret hardpoints2 Launcher hardpoints3 Required Skills Primary Skill requiredCaldari Frigate Level 5 Secondary Skill requiredInterceptors Level 5
Shayden	Posted - 2003.12.29 17:39:00 - [35] Edited by: Shayden on 29/12/2003 17:48:15 damn tough luck they didnt make any elite frigates out of my favorites. The heron, breacher, inquisitor is not among the elite ones apparently And why does the Rifter pop up in every race section? an error or is a caldari ship fitted with rifter class looks?
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.12.29 21:36:00 - [36] "damn tough luck they didnt make any elite frigates out of my favorites. The heron, breacher, inquisitor is not among the elite ones apparently And why does the Rifter pop up in every race section? an error or is a caldari ship fitted with rifter class looks?" ... At least half of those elite frigates isn't defined yet; so i suppose you will see your favourites included, eventually... and the Rifter appearing everywhere is just a result of quick 'copy and paste' operation when those ships were created (much like nearly all advanced Spaceship Command skills are a 'copy and paste' of Amarr Frigate skill)
Pod Me	Posted - 2003.12.30 09:13:00 - [37] Edited by: Pod Me on 30/12/2003 09:15:32 Quote: There is some info on eve-db about the Kirshan, a Gallente Elite Frigate which reduces DCM cpu need by 90%. The site lists gall frig 5 and dcm 5 (a rank 6) as prereqs Hmmm. That's... silly. DCM has memory + intelligence as attributes, Gallente Frigate has perception + willpower. So any halfway specialised character is going to take over a month to train one of the two of these to lvl5, probably more like two months. /emote Hopes not to get a Kirshan BP from her Tech 2 research :)
Zyrla Bladestorm	Posted - 2003.12.30 15:48:00 - [38] Edited by: Zyrla Bladestorm on 30/12/2003 15:49:59 funny thing is, two weeks ago the second pre-requisite on the industrial frigs (kirshan, hyena etc) was industry V .. they've only changed it to DCM V since then so that was probably a conscious decision of course while we're on the topic of the industrial frigs they can fit two DCM lasers in but dont even have half the capacitor needed to run one of them so they still have quite a bit of work to do there . ----- Apologys for any rambling that may have just occurred.

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