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INkog
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Posted - 2003.12.21 06:54:00 -
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Edited by: INkog on 21/12/2003 07:26:50
I've seen a few screenies, but I'm guessing these are from Chaos. Are the new frigates now ingame on TQ?
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I just noticed the new frigs will require a new skill trained to lvl 4-5 + frigate 4-5. My guess is that the new skills will have a rank of 4-5 so I guess were talking many weeks before we'll see anyone on TQ skilled enough to fly them 
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Please share any info regarding the new frigates here. Which ones do you like or dislike and why? How would you deck them out?
Personaly the Hawk is looking mighty nice to me  +1 high +2 mid +2 low! Allthough no extra hard points  now 100m3 drone space! I just hope they can be had for under the cost of a cruiser...
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2003.12.21 23:31:00 -
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i wanna see these things too. Ive no interest in joining the Battle Ship rush ( though castors nerfed that :) )
So any info would be nice ...please.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.12.22 15:28:00 -
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Check out Eve DB as they have details and info on the Elite Frigs :)
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2003.12.22 19:07:00 -
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Ta mate, ive looked at that b4. I was wondering about what the skills requirements gonna be, what Races will i need etc.
Seriously, i have no intention of getting a BS, so im real interested in these. Also id love a specific mining ship. Not because im solely a miner, but because im fed up of BS mining, just aint right.
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Lentia
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Posted - 2003.12.22 19:44:00 -
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There is some info on eve-db about the Kirshan, a Gallente Elite Frigate which reduces DCM cpu need by 90%.
The site lists gall frig 5 and dcm 5 (a rank 6) as prereqs
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Fausto
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Posted - 2003.12.22 20:42:00 -
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Yea great, I want to train 3 months just to fly it?!? I'm afraid to think about shiva then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Shevar
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Posted - 2003.12.22 23:52:00 -
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All the prereqs are silly actually if you ask me... The lowest prereq still needs a new rank2 lvl4 skill to use it, will make the market for them really really small :( and means i gotta keep on doing missions with my stabber/vigil since i cant afford to train those skills needed... Kinda a shame
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Lagar
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Posted - 2003.12.23 11:42:00 -
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like a medusa Class Frigate (tech 2 Merlin)
it need's Caldari Frigate lvl 5 and Gunship lvl 5
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wordy
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Posted - 2003.12.23 22:51:00 -
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I gotta agree the required skills and skill levels seem a bit severe, what are they going to be for tl 3/4/5 ships I wonder?
But on the other hand it seems like the skills will be trained by ppl who are interested in becoming Frigate specialists, so if thats what you want to do I suppose you won't be put off by the extend training times
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Cao Cao
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Posted - 2003.12.24 02:22:00 -
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They are damn ELITE frigates. If you are putting your eggs into the frigate basket, then you will train it. Otherwise, cry more noob. This is called specialization and without it everyone in the damn game IS AND CAN DO THE SAME GODDAMN THING.
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ZeaL dRaGoN
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Posted - 2003.12.24 03:45:00 -
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nuff said
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2003.12.24 05:02:00 -
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Medusa Req arent that bad, i feel sorry for gal pilots, who wants a bloody mining elite frig? 
Another reason why Caldari are so superior
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INkog
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Posted - 2003.12.24 08:38:00 -
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Medusa Req arent that bad, i feel sorry for gal pilots, who wants a bloody mining elite frig?
Another reason why Caldari are so superior
Going by the EVE DB, it looks like all races have DCM Elite Frigs.
I for one will be specializing in both Gunships and Bombers as long as the prices for the ships are reasonable, or I get my paws on some BPs. 
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2003.12.24 09:14:00 -
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Gunships and Bombers??????
Oh tell me more 
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Darsk'hul
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Posted - 2003.12.24 09:17:00 -
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Sorry for my ignorance, but, which EVE-DB ? TTI's one ?
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INkog
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Posted - 2003.12.24 09:34:00 -
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EVE DB
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INkog
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Posted - 2003.12.24 09:37:00 -
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Name Medusa
Group Elite Frigate
Race Caldari
Description Hull: Merlin Class
Developer: Lai Dai Corporation
Role: Assault Frigate
Special: 90% less cpu need for Modules requiring Advanced Gunnery
Base Price 1297904
Structure
hp 315
Capacity m3
Drone Capacity 0 m3
Mass 2810000 kg
Volume 28100 m3
Signature Radius 27
Max Velocity 255 m/s
Armor
Armor 320 hp
Armor Em Damage Resistance 60%
Armor Explosive Damage Resistance 9%
Armor Kinetic Damage Resistance 44%
Armor Thermal Damage Resistance 44%
Shield
Shield HP 265 hp
Shield Recharge Time 500.00s
Shield Em Damage Resistance 0%
Shield Explosive Damage Resistance 60%
Shield Kinetic Damage Resistance 50%
Shield Thermal Damage Resistance 30%
Capacitor
Capacitor Capacity 200
Recharge time 150 s
Targeting
Maximum Targeting Range 30000 m
Max Locked Targets 6
Scan Speed 2.00 s
Scan Resolution
LADAR Sensor Strength points
Magnetometric Sensor Strength points
RADAR Sensor Strength points
Gravimetric Sensor Strength 11 points
Fitting
CPU 175 tf
Powergrid 40 MW
LowSlots 5
MedSlots 4
HiSlots 5
Turret hardpoints 2
Launcher hardpoints 3
Required Skills
Primary Skill required Caldari Frigate Level 5
Secondary Skill required Gunships Level 5
Name Manticore
Group Elite Frigate
Race Caldari
Description Hull: Kestrel Class
Developer: Lai Dai
Lai Dai ships favor a balanced mix of ship systems making them very versatile but also making them less powerful in specific tactics.
Role: Bomber
15% X Bomber skill level bonus to light missile amd rocket ranges per bomber level
Base Price 940640
Structure
hp 315
Capacity m3
Drone Capacity 0 m3
Mass 2810000 kg
Volume 28100 m3
Signature Radius 30
Max Velocity 255 m/s
Armor
Armor 320 hp
Armor Em Damage Resistance 60%
Armor Explosive Damage Resistance 9%
Armor Kinetic Damage Resistance 44%
Armor Thermal Damage Resistance 44%
Shield
Shield HP 265 hp
Shield Recharge Time 500.00s
Shield Em Damage Resistance 9%
Shield Explosive Damage Resistance 60%
Shield Kinetic Damage Resistance 50%
Shield Thermal Damage Resistance 30%
Capacitor
Capacitor Capacity 200
Recharge time 150 s
Targeting
Maximum Targeting Range 30000 m
Max Locked Targets 6
Scan Speed 2.00 s
Scan Resolution
LADAR Sensor Strength 11 points
Magnetometric Sensor Strength points
RADAR Sensor Strength points
Gravimetric Sensor Strength points
Fitting
CPU 175 tf
Powergrid 35 MW
LowSlots 3
MedSlots 4
HiSlots 5
Turret hardpoints
Launcher hardpoints 5
Required Skills
Primary Skill required Caldari Frigate Level 5
Secondary Skill required Bombers Level 5
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fras
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Posted - 2003.12.24 09:43:00 -
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The targeting range is a bit sucky. The Bomber has 22k less range than a kestrel.
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INkog
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Posted - 2003.12.24 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: INkog on 24/12/2003 09:56:07
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The targeting range is a bit sucky. The Bomber has 22k less range than a kestrel.
Actually I think its only 10k from base range of 40k, but with another launcher, better shields, and more slots ( for range mods) it makes up for it IMO.
Edit
Dont forget this:
Role: Bomber
15% X Bomber skill level bonus to light missile amd rocket ranges per bomber level
that's an automatic 75% missile range increase automaticly! (I know not targeting Range, but still!)
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Bane Sellante
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Posted - 2003.12.24 10:18:00 -
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Quote:
Medusa Req arent that bad, i feel sorry for gal pilots, who wants a bloody mining elite frig?
I do
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fras
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Posted - 2003.12.24 10:55:00 -
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Quote:
Actually I think its only 10k from base range of 40k, but with another launcher, better shields, and more slots ( for range mods) it makes up for it IMO.
Edit
Dont forget this:
Role: Bomber
15% X Bomber skill level bonus to light missile amd rocket ranges per bomber level
that's an automatic 75% missile range increase automaticly! (I know not targeting Range, but still!)
I think i'm losing it, I could have sworn kestrel range was 52k
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2003.12.24 12:49:00 -
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Base Price 1297904
Oh bugger thats expensive, i was kinda expecting around low end cruiser prices
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Kovak
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Posted - 2003.12.24 12:52:00 -
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unless I'm misreading that number they are 1.2mil each? that seems pretty reasonable :)
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INkog
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Posted - 2003.12.24 13:26:00 -
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Since they will probably NOT be available from NPC's, I guess they will be 2-3x that much for a while. Just my guess though...
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2003.12.24 14:09:00 -
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ok, maybe im just thick, thought it saod 12million.
1.2m is not a problem
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2003.12.24 18:21:00 -
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Are these the ships we are getting from Ship Engineering Research? or will these only come after Shiva patch?
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Shevar
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Posted - 2003.12.24 20:24:00 -
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Well i guess that these are the ones coming from ship engineering yes...
But it is unknown when
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.12.24 20:57:00 -
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Like I'm gonna train Caldari frig to 5 and "bombers", whatever rank that is, to level 5, to use it with ROCKETS and light missiles... 
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2003.12.24 21:06:00 -
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a dev recently said "ships dont have tech levels"
Basically we have the ships we have - sort of a base item then if we're lucky we get more ships, but they wont be tech 2 per se - just different or specialized, elite frigates are coming because the normal frigates just dont have enough slots/equip to be usefull as near as I can tell ... so theyre adding better ones in (minmater ones for example on EVE-DB having 6 weapons mostly)
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.12.24 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 24/12/2003 21:35:58
"Name Manticore
15% X Bomber skill level bonus to light missile amd rocket ranges per bomber level
Maximum Targeting Range 30000 m"
... Wasn't going to bring the subject up until we actually see these ships in game, but... those stats are probably placeholders, because they make absolutely no sense.
In a nutshell, the 'elite bomber' frigate receives bonus which results in being able to fire light missiles that fly for ~20 seconds longer, which translates to ~55 km missile range.
... except the targetting range of the frigate in question is just 30 km, meaning it's unable to actually make any use of that bonus. :s
(and that's less than half of effective targetting range of the Kestrel, which is supposed to be inferior after all)
Not to mention no one in their right mind is going to ever use light missiles when heavy missiles offer longer range without any bonus, and 3 times as much damage per missile... and then there's cruise missiles which further double the range and the dealt damage per missile. Further making the ship bonus completely useless...
On the other hand, the ship herself is pretty nice -- more sturdy Kestrel with extra launcher, plus one more middle and low slot. Would be fun to fly.
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