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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.03.20 18:44:00 -
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Great idea. Infinity Ziona had a very similar one--basically, the faster something gets ganked the less loot survives.
There's two problems that I see with it. One is I wonder if it's really technically feasible to keep track of. The second thing is it's kind of a big nerf not just to 5 BS on 1 frig fights, but also to 5 BS on 5 BS fights because of focused fire. * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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Leeoh
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Posted - 2007.03.20 18:48:00 -
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Edited by: Leeoh on 20/03/2007 18:44:44 awesome idea
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gazarsgo
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.03.20 18:55:00 -
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how sad, it's only been hours since the "nano nerf" and already the cries about solo pvp being dead...
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Janos Zebratul
The Forsakened Companions
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Posted - 2007.03.20 18:58:00 -
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i like that, /signed. ___________________ we have explosive. |
wierchas noobhunter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.20 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: gazarsgo how sad, it's only been hours since the "nano nerf" and already the cries about solo pvp being dead...
uhh can u read what i did post ?? i soo hate this new biiger and improved eve community like totaly don't remmeber who is who in eve ... Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected]) |
Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.20 19:03:00 -
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I see this as a nerf of gang PvP rather than a boost of solo PvP.
So no, not signed. ------
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Wardo21
The Arcanum
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Posted - 2007.03.20 19:06:00 -
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I like the idea, overkill = less loot and salvage. So consider this /signed for a good improvement to the game.
However, I don't think it will balance PvP in the slightest. The decision to gank someone with overkill or get loot from them will probably come down to getting the killmail and buying modules and ammo. My choice would be to render overwhelming force on an opponent, not give them a fair chance so I might get something from the wreck. Kill the victim as quickly as possible to minimize my losses.
Wardo21
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wierchas noobhunter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.20 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lucifer Fellblade I see this as a nerf of gang PvP rather than a boost of solo PvP.
So no, not signed.
so how much loot u get from your blob ? Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected]) |
wierchas noobhunter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.20 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Wardo21 I like the idea, overkill = less loot and salvage. So consider this /signed for a good improvement to the game.
However, I don't think it will balance PvP in the slightest. The decision to gank someone with overkill or get loot from them will probably come down to getting the killmail and buying modules and ammo. My choice would be to render overwhelming force on an opponent, not give them a fair chance so I might get something from the wreck. Kill the victim as quickly as possible to minimize my losses.
Wardo21
i dont say that u should dont get loot tootaly and btw i dont posted anythink about dps .. Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected]) |
Blind Man
Kemono. Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.20 19:09:00 -
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very good idea mr wierchas
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Seph Res
PPN United Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.20 19:28:00 -
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best idea ever, keep it goin...this gets a bump
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.03.20 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: gazarsgo how sad, it's only been hours since the "nano nerf" and already the cries about solo pvp being dead...
uhh can u read what i did post ?? i soo hate this new biiger and improved eve community like totaly don't remmeber who is who in eve ...
As some of us mentionned, the title of your thread is misleading, which leads to nubbins posting flames without actually reading the OP.
FLAMING
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated Free Trade Coalition
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Posted - 2007.03.20 19:35:00 -
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/signed __________________________________________ Yes it is great being amarr. I am minmatar,fly amarr,use gellente drones and am in caldari space. |
Borasao
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Posted - 2007.03.20 20:11:00 -
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Yeah, something like every ship that would be on the killmail gets a chance (modified by stuff said above, gun type/etc) to destroy the parts. Example: 10 ships would be on the killmail, every module has 10 chances to be destroyed.
Not only does it make sense but I would guess that it'd be fairly easy to implement. It does mean that large blob battles would yield few parts but that makes total sense as many large ships firing on one ship should turn it into dust.
Good idea, IMO.
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Gabriel Karade
Nulli-Secundus
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Posted - 2007.03.20 20:32:00 -
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I would far from agree solo pvp is dead, the most annoying thing though is seeing faction loot go pop, with the left-over T1 crud remaining. Perhaps that need looking at too, as well as the DPS put down onto a target... ----------
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.03.20 20:37:00 -
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Anything that would remove minimum blob neccessary would be good.
Problem is that most solo pvp you get this day is ganking npcers. Even intys tend to not engage alone. --------
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Zirth
Caldari The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.03.20 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: Zirth on 20/03/2007 21:13:06 Making gang pvp extremely unprofitable as the little that does drop, you gotto split as well.
Even if your 5-man gang kills a 100 man gang, each individual ship would get killed by 5 people, thus your idea suggest little mods survive, even though you go against massive odds.
Also don't see why 5 interceptors would do more damage to modules than 1 interceptor. If you fire at a module 1 out of 10 shots, and fire the other 9 at shield (for example), if you fire 5 times as much you just kill him 5 times as much, the 'module destruction ratio' stays the same?
In fact, if you kill a BS with 5 inty's, you kill him 5 times as fast, leaving 5 times less time for him to recharge shields/armor, thus leaving 5x times less time to fire 1 out of 10 shots at its modules, leaving 5x less destruction of modules.
I like to promote solo PvP, but not always at cost of logic, and gang pvp.
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Granth Roden
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Posted - 2007.03.20 21:55:00 -
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Very good idea, Wierchas.
As for gangs splitting up and killing ganking - depends on the ratio of loss.
Making it dependent on the caliber of guns related to your hull size (small on big= little damage, large on small= only the wings left) and how many hit how fast (DPS) makes it independent of number of people. Which means a lot of small ships will get more loot than a lot of big ones, BUT they have a harder time bringing down the prey too.
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wierchas noobhunter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:15:00 -
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bump
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Tacyon
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:18:00 -
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Bumping this with my alt too! --- The 'o.0'-boy. |
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SFShootme
The Carebear Stare Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:19:00 -
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"ok guys it's almost dead stop shooting now and let my light drone kill it!"
Tho shall give Life, for Life. |
Great Artista
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: SFShootme "ok guys it's almost dead stop shooting now and let my light drone kill it!"
Maybe the amount of people in killmail should determine it? ___________________________________
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wierchas noobhunter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: SFShootme "ok guys it's almost dead stop shooting now and let my light drone kill it!"
um do u get what i post it can be killed by light drones, but if it was waporized with lets say 50x 1400 artys it wont be much left Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected]) |
SFShootme
The Carebear Stare Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:23:00 -
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"ok guys it's just a mining barge i'll kill it!"
really.... that won't work Tho shall give Life, for Life. |
wierchas noobhunter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:23:00 -
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Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 21/03/2007 11:20:03 double post ffs Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected]) |
Raekone
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:34:00 -
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Good idea in theory but would it make a difference? I thought the absence of solo pvp was more an issue of todays available ships/tactics/nerfs etc than actual cowardice?
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The Vamp
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:37:00 -
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Great idea
/Signed
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wierchas noobhunter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Raekone Good idea in theory but would it make a difference? I thought the absence of solo pvp was more an issue of todays available ships/tactics/nerfs etc than actual cowardice?
so its be like this if u want stuff dont ******* blob i dont say that if u gang someone with uber fleet u should wont get any loot well maybe only 20 % of stuff and if u kill solo with inty u should get maybe even 100 % Signature removed - Please email us to find out why - Jacques([email protected]) |
Major Stuart
Maelstrom Crew
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:45:00 -
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Normally all the loot from a ship i kill survives but hell if it would happen almost everytime id be even happier
That's a Templar, an Amarr fighter. It is a combat drone used by carriers. |
Raekone
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Posted - 2007.03.21 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter
Originally by: Raekone Good idea in theory but would it make a difference? I thought the absence of solo pvp was more an issue of todays available ships/tactics/nerfs etc than actual cowardice?
so its be like this if u want stuff dont ******* blob i dont say that if u gang someone with uber fleet u should wont get any loot well maybe only 20 % of stuff and if u kill solo with inty u should get maybe even 100 %
Well I suppose it would at least infuse the old style solo pirating with a breath of fresh air, you'd actually have a profit to make. But it would hardly put a dent in blob warfare tbh.
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