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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2345
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Posted - 2016.09.28 05:05:34 -
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Ben Booley wrote:The false empress enslaves you. She takes the fruits of YOUR efforts and turns it only towards her own power. You are a capsuleer, the elite of the elite, spending as much money on every shot of your guns as most see in their lifetime. Yet you scurry about doing her bidding.
She has no honor. She takes and takes and takes with no thought for you. Her success is truthfully your success, if you could but rise up and take it back.
Cast off your chains. Take your strength and use it for yourself. Become truly free. That is the Rote Kapelle way.
Yup. That's totally what Ayallah and I were both doing there: scurrying about doing the Empress' bidding. If only we could be more like... who were you again? |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1667
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Posted - 2016.09.28 05:12:15 -
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Arrendis wrote:who were you again?
I vaguely remember something about Rote Kapelle being like, Star Fraction. Space anarchists. Maybe one was an offshoot of the other.
Except Rote Kapelle tended towards more explosions in space, and less text-walls on IGS.
The details are clouded by the mists of time.
I could look the details up.
But I won't.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
17
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Posted - 2016.09.28 05:32:45 -
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Arrendis wrote:Ben Booley wrote:The false empress enslaves you. She takes the fruits of YOUR efforts and turns it only towards her own power. You are a capsuleer, the elite of the elite, spending as much money on every shot of your guns as most see in their lifetime. Yet you scurry about doing her bidding.
She has no honor. She takes and takes and takes with no thought for you. Her success is truthfully your success, if you could but rise up and take it back.
Cast off your chains. Take your strength and use it for yourself. Become truly free. That is the Rote Kapelle way. Yup. That's totally what Ayallah and I were both doing there: scurrying about doing the Empress' bidding. If only we could be more like... who were you again?
The degree to which one is in the eye of the slave and master is a poor yardstick for free men.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2346
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Posted - 2016.09.28 05:38:13 -
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You should probably recheck that statement, you appear to be missing an object for critical parts of the first clause. |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
17
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Posted - 2016.09.28 06:00:02 -
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Arrendis wrote:You should probably recheck that statement, you appear to be missing an object for critical parts of the first clause.
Shall we trust our persuasion to one who can or will not parse the truth when so clearly it is laid before her? |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2376
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Posted - 2016.09.28 06:26:12 -
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Deitra Vess wrote:Shoulda' used nuclear rounds....
For sheer energy output for matter used, it's a little hard to beat antimatter. Only,
1. There's not actually a lot of it in a hybrid charge (it's in a diffuse plasma state held in suspension to keep it from coming in contact with matter if someone, say, drops it);
2. Most explosive damage done in atmosphere comes from the blast wave ("explosive overpressure"), which can pulp people pretty nicely a disturbing distance away. Space: no atmosphere, no blast wave. It's why so few of our weapons actually can catch more than one target even though nuclear-tipped munitions are pretty common in both artillery shells and missiles. Considering what that Titan was probably designed to withstand, they must have been basically bumping hulls. I'm a little impressed it did anything at all.
... as for Rote Kapelle....
Even if I admire their audacity a little, this was, by any measure, a stunt, and kind of an example of why anarchist culture (if that's the word) is one I ...
... just, don't have any interest in.
At all.
Even Sansha's Nation's more interesting (the psychology of their free-willed elites, which I gather do exist? must be fascinating), just, if I ever did visit I'd probably never leave. |
Morgan Wulver
Night Theifs Curatores Veritatis Alliance
137
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Posted - 2016.09.28 07:25:02 -
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I'm actually inclined to thank you lot. Watching the Empress not give a flying **** while your terror plot unraveled around her was the single greatest piece of television I've seen since war broadcasts from Operation Highlander.
Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1373
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Posted - 2016.09.28 12:35:31 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Shoulda' used nuclear rounds.... For sheer energy output for matter used, it's a little hard to beat antimatter. Only, 1. There's not actually a lot of it in a hybrid charge (it's in a diffuse plasma state held in suspension to keep it from coming in contact with matter if someone, say, drops it); 2. Most explosive damage done in atmosphere comes from the blast wave ("explosive overpressure"), which can pulp people pretty nicely a disturbing distance away. Space: no atmosphere, no blast wave. It's why so few of our weapons actually can catch more than one target even though nuclear-tipped munitions are pretty common in both artillery shells and missiles. Considering what that Titan was probably designed to withstand, they must have been basically bumping hulls. I'm a little impressed it did anything at all. Ya, I was going more for nuclear rounds have more explosive material in them (propellant as well as the nuclear material itself) than antimatter rounds. Antimatter is more destructive in that regard but quantity over quality as they say. |
William Danneskjold
96
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Posted - 2016.09.28 12:49:59 -
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Violence, as usual, begets violence.
Also, Cherandine, those glasses do NOT fit you.
War is murder. It always has been, always will be. Murder in the name of God. Freedom. Your country. Whatever it is, it is murder. I am already against the next set of wars.
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
17
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Posted - 2016.09.28 12:58:24 -
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William Danneskjold wrote:Violence, as usual, begets violence.
Also, Cherandine, those glasses do NOT fit you.
Thank you for noticing, working as intended.
Details are important in my line of work and it's good to get explicit feedback occasionally that isn't local salt and corpses under my guns.
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William Danneskjold
97
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Posted - 2016.09.28 13:06:51 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:William Danneskjold wrote:Violence, as usual, begets violence.
Also, Cherandine, those glasses do NOT fit you. Thank you for noticing, working as intended. Details are important in my line of work and it's good to get explicit feedback occasionally that isn't local salt and corpses under my guns.
Also, I just realized I cannot spell your name.
War is murder. It always has been, always will be. Murder in the name of God. Freedom. Your country. Whatever it is, it is murder. I am already against the next set of wars.
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Templar Thal Vadam
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
3
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Posted - 2016.09.28 13:10:53 -
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Seraphim Risen wrote:At 20:14 today, two Providence-class vessels impacted the TES Purity at full speed. Each contained 2,891,000 units of Antimatter L ammunition. Using a transmitter, two consumer electronics, a self harmonizing power core, and a thermonuclear power unit, they were wired into large bombs. Attached to each were six slavers. And a postcard from Poitot.
As the ships made impact, a nearby Rote Kapelle Scorpion used an ECM Bust to trigger the explosives in the assassination attempt. The attempt, while angering CONCORD and aggressing over 60 nearby pilots, did not appear to damage Empress Catiz's titan.
Empress Catiz and the Empire represent the antithesis to Rote Kapelle's beliefs and ideals.
.....I am disappointed, Seraphim. This is painful to read from you. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2352
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Posted - 2016.09.28 13:12:44 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Arrendis wrote:You should probably recheck that statement, you appear to be missing an object for critical parts of the first clause. Shall we trust our persuasion to one who can or will not parse the truth when so clearly it is laid before her?
Gotta tell you, Binky, I don't much care what you trust me with. However, in that it is your obvious preference to engage in overly complex constructions of verbiage, your foibles and fulminations I'll indulge as my point I make. As a notable departure from the meager efforts engaged in by yourself, however, mine will be grammatically correct.
To say that one like Ayallah was there to scurry 'bout and serve the Empress' will is simply put as wrongly overthought as your florid sentence construction is.
Ayallah may speak many platitudes of loyalty and paying Amarr's dues but look ye down at her alliance, friend and ask to whom the Legion's knee would bend
For lo! All know there's no love lost between she, and me, you see, we... we don't agree on many things including if the Queen is heaven sent, err, Empress, there... you see?
But I'll be blunt in closing (cuz I'm bored) as lecturer, sir, you cannot afford so be obtuse, or wrong, or e'en unclear on why PL and Goonswarm both were here. |
William Danneskjold
97
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Posted - 2016.09.28 13:19:48 -
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Arrendis wrote:Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Arrendis wrote:You should probably recheck that statement, you appear to be missing an object for critical parts of the first clause. Shall we trust our persuasion to one who can or will not parse the truth when so clearly it is laid before her? Gotta tell you, Binky, I don't much care what you trust me with. However, in that it is your obvious preference to engage in overly complex constructions of verbiage, your foibles and fulminations I'll indulge as my point I make. As a notable departure from the meager efforts engaged in by yourself, however, mine will be grammatically correct. To say that one like Ayallah was there to scurry 'bout and serve the Empress' will is simply put as wrongly overthought as your florid sentence construction is. Ayallah may speak many platitudes of loyalty and paying Amarr's dues but look ye down at her alliance, friend and ask to whom the Legion's knee would bend For lo! All know there's no love lost between she, and me, you see, we... we don't agree on many things including if the Queen is heaven sent, err, Empress, there... you see? But I'll be blunt in closing (cuz I'm bored) as lecturer, sir, you cannot afford so be obtuse, or wrong, or e'en unclear on why PL and Goonswarm both were here. (And yes, Mr. Amtiskaw, the rhyming scheme varies intentionally throughout each verse of iambic pentameter.)
Will you marry me?
War is murder. It always has been, always will be. Murder in the name of God. Freedom. Your country. Whatever it is, it is murder. I am already against the next set of wars.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2353
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Posted - 2016.09.28 13:25:04 -
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Sorry, I'm already in as committed a relationship as someone in my line of work can afford. |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 13:47:02 -
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Arrendis wrote:Sorry, I'm already in as committed a relationship as someone in my line of work can afford.
Also, Amtiskaw, if in fact the thought has crossed your mind that perhaps, some minor flaw may lurk there in your second offering of which you're unaware, bravo!
'can or will not' construction means 'if you can' OR 'if you will not'. You wanted 'cannot or will not'.
Meter and cadence are more important persuasion devices than the fine points of grammar to trigger pedants.
That said, I yield nothing in the integrity of my constructions. |
Quin Mansa
Mamelik Hurusiyyad
60
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Posted - 2016.09.28 14:07:39 -
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As the noose tightens, so does the condemned thrash against it. The tantrums of the profane are but their animal reflex to the realization of the promise granted by the Lord, and delivered through Her Imperial Majesty.
Those who struggle in vain against the Chosen: that rope around your neck is Truth, it is made of the Faithful, and it belongs to the Almighty. Submit to His Light and stand Reclaimed, or your doom shall be so sealed.
> "Today, our future is in our hands, and His light shines down upon us." - Her Holiness Catiz I
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2356
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Posted - 2016.09.28 14:13:43 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Meter and cadence are more important persuasion devices than the fine points of grammar to trigger pedants.
That said, I yield nothing in the integrity of my constructions.
Well, then you should'a striven for some lyrical flow. and not some miracle blow from some mysterical throw no?
I don't mean to be mean but son you awfully seem to want to make a big scene from what went on with the Queen
but ok
so now you want to attack, and gimme all sorts of flak because I took you to school on understanding your tools, made you look like a fool or maybe some kinda hack, Jack.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn Singularity Syndicate
2080
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Posted - 2016.09.28 14:32:22 -
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Alizebeth Amalath wrote:My office, 2330, tomorrow night.
Just to clarify...is that an open offer? I can bring some very good gin if that helps? |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 14:52:10 -
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As usual, any attempt at drawing attention to the substantial structural deficits in New Eden society is met by the alternating currents of coarse resentment from the vested and flowered obfuscation from the posh hangers-on.
This is why your reminders must be frequent and tangible, because so willfully and with alacrity you forget.
Regards. |
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2357
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Posted - 2016.09.28 15:02:57 -
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Orrrr.... you could try actually drawing attention to those deficits and not immediately attempt to cast aspersions on the motivations and agency of those who are observing events of consequence. Believe it or don't, it's very easy to point out the inequities in society without specifically calling out a member of one of the groups in the Cluster least beholden to any of the Empires.
As for the timing of my responses, I've got some time without paperwork. It's a perk of being a life-long insomniac. |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 15:17:24 -
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Arrendis wrote:Orrrr.... you could try actually drawing attention to those deficits and not immediately attempt to cast aspersions on the motivations and agency of those who are observing events of consequence. Believe it or don't, it's very easy to point out the inequities in society without specifically calling out a member of one of the groups in the Cluster least beholden to any of the Empires.
As for the timing of my responses, I've got some time without paperwork. It's a perk of being a life-long insomniac.
Did I call you out? I hadn't noticed. Consider yourself called out then, it's of little consequence for me beyond salt in the growing bank.
This was by way of answering your question: who are you?
Surely you asked that in good faith, as now you claim some kind of offense.
Goons and PL are worse than the empires, you take the life force and minds of otherwise free capsuleers, enticing them with exclusivity while delivering homogeneity, commodities of far more concern than the juices of mortal bodies. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2382
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Posted - 2016.09.28 16:17:53 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Did I call you out? I hadn't noticed. Consider yourself called out then, it's of little consequence for me beyond salt in the growing bank.
This was by way of answering your question: who are you?
Surely you asked that in good faith, as now you claim some kind of offense.
Goons and PL are worse than the empires, you take the life force and minds of otherwise free capsuleers, enticing them with exclusivity while delivering homogeneity, commodities of far more concern than the juices of mortal bodies.
I hate this style of rhetoric: verbosity as a weapon.
My predecessor used it. I've promised myself I never will.
It's a gladiator's approach to discussion: flashy, noisy, possibly pleasing to the crowd (for some crowds), definitely flattering to the combatant's ego. It's also ineffective for actually communicating with most people.
It main effect is to limit how many people you have to defend your ideas against, whether they're good ideas or not. It creates a filter; only people able to navigate a labyrinth of arcane verbiage and complex structure will be able to engage.
The goal of this style isn't actually to teach or discuss ideas; it's to "win."
... whether or not the idea makes any sense, whether or not the position you stake out is worth defending. |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 16:29:30 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote: verbosity
I don't think this word means what you think it means.
If anything I can be accused of maximizing syntactic complexity.
I'll leave you to speculate on possible motivations. |
William Danneskjold
97
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Posted - 2016.09.28 16:40:42 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Words
Do you write anything with meaning?
War is murder. It always has been, always will be. Murder in the name of God. Freedom. Your country. Whatever it is, it is murder. I am already against the next set of wars.
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Ben Booley
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
25
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Posted - 2016.09.28 16:46:00 -
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William Danneskjold wrote:Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Words Do you write anything with meaning?
Do you do anything with meaning? |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 16:48:11 -
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William Danneskjold wrote:Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Words Do you write anything with meaning?
The gates to your understanding are manned by stalwarts of your own creation, but only nominally of your control.
In this I do you many favors to make you aware, so that even in the absence of understanding you may perceive what is lacking by its form, and first glimpse into the vale of deeper knowledge. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2382
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Posted - 2016.09.28 16:48:25 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Aria Jenneth wrote: verbosity
I don't think this word means what you think it means. If anything I can be accused of maximizing syntactic complexity. I'll leave you to speculate on possible motivations.
Hm. You haven't actually posted any wall-of-text rants, yet, to go with your taste for florid language, so, point.
I'm not actually very interested in your motivations, Mr. Amtiskaw. So far it looks like you're planning on killing people and telling them it's their fault you have to resort to violence because they're too stupid and unenlightened to understand your ideals.
Boring as dust. |
William Danneskjold
97
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Posted - 2016.09.28 16:52:06 -
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Ben Booley wrote:William Danneskjold wrote:Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Words Do you write anything with meaning? Do you do anything with meaning?
I try to avoid that. It sounds like actual work.
I do applaud you for standing up to the powers that be, though it resulted in an unfortunate loss of innocent life amongst the freighter crews.
War is murder. It always has been, always will be. Murder in the name of God. Freedom. Your country. Whatever it is, it is murder. I am already against the next set of wars.
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 16:52:15 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote: Boring as dust.
The adolescent mentality is quite becoming on the herd so long as it wanes to passivity upon coming of age. |
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