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William Danneskjold
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:28:34 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:This isn't propaganda.
It's provocation.
In that regard you have it quite twisted.
Your outburst was a delight, truly a metric by which future sperge shall be measured.
Have you ever been so far as to make sure that nobody went so far as to into? You should consider thinking about taking action so that actions can never be so far read into as to make things. Its really a vast undertaking that if you try so hard as to figure out, may incite a pain that generally sees into the thing that nobody went so far as into
War is murder. It always has been, always will be. Murder in the name of God. Freedom. Your country. Whatever it is, it is murder. I am already against the next set of wars.
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Ben Booley
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
25
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:31:48 -
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Arrendis wrote:Ben Booley wrote:Our empty clones without implants? That is a free service provided to all.
Your pilot's license is a free service provided to all? I'll let the Jita market know they should drop the prices on PLEX, then.
Ahh, so you're moving your goalposts around. Cute. Hope they're light.
If you'd like to look into the cost of the pilots license rather than the clone contract, we spent roughly two hours of time for three pilots.
At a current rate of 1.124bn ISK for 720 hours of piloting, this cost us about 9.3666 million ISK. Not even a blip. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Noticed.
1973
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:32:04 -
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I admit to being tempted to commission a manga of this event but I am unsure if anyone in Rote is bishounen enough to move copy in the schoolgirl demographic so critical in today's market. |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:33:22 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:This isn't propaganda.
It's provocation.
In that regard you have it quite twisted.
Your outburst was a delight, truly a metric by which future sperge shall be measured. In other words, you're just trying to make us mad. Soooooo.... Our best option if we want to annoy you in turn is to blow a raspberry and ignore you. Noted, I guess?
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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
531
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:33:41 -
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Did this incident wuth Purity extremists not teach you anything?
- A lawsuit from Pend. Don't think they take kindly to their repotation being blackened by bad press. - Termination of your cloning contracts. You are still on CONCORD leash. - Outlawing of your organisations. Saw Serpentis? Yeah. Turn on the media machine, place a price tag, promise rewards and you are done.
I think you are not quite aware that you can be undone in mere moments. This is the reality. You have caused enough headache to good people in your organisation and I really don't understand why you are still its employees.
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Ben Booley
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
25
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:36:12 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:Did this incident wuth Purity extremists not teach you anything?
- A lawsuit from Pend. Don't think they take kindly to their repotation being blackened by bad press. - Termination of your cloning contracts. You are still on CONCORD leash. - Outlawing of your organisations. Saw Serpentis? Yeah. Turn on the media machine, place a price tag, promise rewards and you are done.
I think you are not quite aware that you can be undone in mere moments. This is the reality. You have caused enough headache to good people in your organisation and I really don't understand why you are still its employees.
Oh but you don't understand. I am not its employee. I am Rote Kapelle. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2375
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:36:16 -
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Ben Booley wrote:Arrendis wrote:Ben Booley wrote:Our empty clones without implants? That is a free service provided to all.
Your pilot's license is a free service provided to all? I'll let the Jita market know they should drop the prices on PLEX, then. Ahh, so you're moving your goalposts around. Cute. Hope they're light. If you'd like to look into the cost of the pilots license rather than the clone contract, we spent roughly two hours of time for three pilots. At a current rate of 1.124bn ISK for 720 hours of piloting, this cost us about 9.3666 million ISK. Not even a blip.
I'm not moving the goalposts at all. I said money's fungible and you've benefited from association with Rote and Morwen. You're the one who took that to mean the ships.
When I said your clone contracts, I wasn't speaking of that clone. I was speaking of the fact that when you die, you wake upGÇöthat you have a clone, at all. That's a function of your pilot's license. How much is waking up worth?
That doesn't even factor into account that you also needed to have that license long enough to learn to pilot freighters, and needed to afford the skillsofts for them, including the capital ship skillsoft.
So keep trying to claim the cost involved was just the materiel. Because it wasn't, and I never limited my focus to that very, very minor part of all this. |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:36:28 -
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Arrendis wrote:Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:This isn't propaganda.
It's provocation.
In that regard you have it quite twisted.
Your outburst was a delight, truly a metric by which future sperge shall be measured. Poor little Binky. Provocation is propaganda. You're trying to impact others. And you really, really don't get it. Such a pity. Edit: Oh, and Binky, you should remember: As you correctly identified earlier, I'm a pedant. What you think of as an 'outburst', I think of as 'fun'. You should check Aria's advise to Ronin. It holds in this case, too. So please, feel free to keep going, I promise to keep pissing on you.
This why we will forever talk past each other.
You are comfortable with what you are, and I am comfortable seeing you in the light of truth which glamour hides for those less accustomed to the raw and ugly products of empire. |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:38:04 -
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William Danneskjold wrote:Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:This isn't propaganda.
It's provocation.
In that regard you have it quite twisted.
Your outburst was a delight, truly a metric by which future sperge shall be measured. Have you ever been so far as to make sure that nobody went so far as to into? You should consider thinking about taking action so that actions can never be so far read into as to make things. Its really a vast undertaking that if you try so hard as to figure out, may incite a pain that generally sees into the thing that nobody went so far as into
I want to believe. |
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
531
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:40:22 -
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Ben Booley wrote: Oh but you don't understand. I am not its employee. I am Rote Kapelle.
Sweet. Other things still apply.
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Ben Booley
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
25
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:42:38 -
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Arrendis wrote:Ben Booley wrote:Arrendis wrote:Ben Booley wrote:Our empty clones without implants? That is a free service provided to all.
Your pilot's license is a free service provided to all? I'll let the Jita market know they should drop the prices on PLEX, then. Ahh, so you're moving your goalposts around. Cute. Hope they're light. If you'd like to look into the cost of the pilots license rather than the clone contract, we spent roughly two hours of time for three pilots. At a current rate of 1.124bn ISK for 720 hours of piloting, this cost us about 9.3666 million ISK. Not even a blip. I'm not moving the goalposts at all. I said money's fungible and you've benefited from association with Rote and Morwen. You're the one who took that to mean the ships. When I said your clone contracts, I wasn't speaking of that clone. I was speaking of the fact that when you die, you wake upGÇöthat you have a clone, at all. That's a function of your pilot's license. How much is waking up worth? That doesn't even factor into account that you also needed to have that license long enough to learn to pilot freighters, and needed to afford the skillsofts for them, including the capital ship skillsoft. So keep trying to claim the cost involved was just the materiel. Because it wasn't, and I never limited my focus to that very, very minor part of all this.
That might be true, if my entire existence was purely for that one attack, and vanished immediately after. We do not maintain pilots licenses for just that one attack. We did not learn to pilot freighters just for that one attack. This attack was merely a part of our story, and when calculating the cost you can only look at things that were used up by it, not things that existed before it, will exist after it, and remained unaffected by doing it.
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1669
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:42:44 -
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Ben Booley wrote:Oh but you don't understand. I am not its employee. I am Rote Kapelle.
What ? You're all of Rote Kapelle ?
Even Sakura Nihil ?
Gosh !
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Ben Booley
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
25
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:45:07 -
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Valerie Valate wrote:Ben Booley wrote:Oh but you don't understand. I am not its employee. I am Rote Kapelle. What ? You're all of Rote Kapelle ? Even Sakura Nihil ? Gosh !
I believe that you will find that that pilot is not one of my minions. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2375
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:45:23 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:This why we will forever talk past each other.
You are comfortable with what you are, and I am comfortable seeing you in the light of truth which glamour hides for those less accustomed to the raw and ugly products of empire.
Oh, I don't think we're talking past one another at all, Binky. But you're right. I am pretty comfortable actually being a competent communicator who understands how to get a message across. Don't worry though, Aria's right: some day, you'll grow out of the adolescent modes of communication. If you learn basic grammar along the way, you might even prove slightly useful at getting people to throw off the shackles of conformity and mindless obedience to those in power.
Not holdin' my breath, though. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1669
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:47:52 -
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Oh, you're the CEO of Stimulus now ?
What happened to Bacchanalian ? I remember he accidentally impersonated the Mittani, with hilarious consequences.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2375
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:49:01 -
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Ben Booley wrote:I believe that you will find that that pilot is not one of my minions.
Oh, so the champion of freedom and individual agency has minions!
Wow, that's a dismissive freakin' way to refer to the people supporting your cause. Kinda makes them sound like you don't really encourage them to be free or have individual agency.
Almost like you're just another tin-pot warlord lashing out at someone for the crime of being more powerful than you are. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2375
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:50:54 -
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Ben Booley wrote: That might be true, if my entire existence was purely for that one attack, and vanished immediately after. We do not maintain pilots licenses for just that one attack. We did not learn to pilot freighters just for that one attack. This attack was merely a part of our story, and when calculating the cost you can only look at things that were used up by it, not things that existed before it, will exist after it, and remained unaffected by doing it.
Tsk, and now you're completely failing to understand how racketeering works. It doesn't matter if your entire existence was about that one attack, what matters is that everyone who financially contributed to you being in a position to conduct the attack is also culpable.
But keep on trying! Maybe your minions can help you find better excuses.
Edit: Oh, and hey, remember that 'Lady Morwen wasn't involved'?
Combine that with 'I am Rote Kapelle' and you've pretty much said 'If she stays in the Alliance, she supports my actions'. So GOOD JOB making it harder for her friends to trust her, Mr. CEO, you certainly do look after your 'minions' well. |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:54:46 -
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Ben it's rather amazing how triggered the dogs become when words and concepts from power structures come into play.
I believe the word Pavlovian applies. |
Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
531
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Posted - 2016.09.28 19:58:48 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Ben it's rather amazing how triggered the dogs become when words and concepts from power structures come into play.
I believe the word Pavlovian applies. You know that there's nothing left to say when the word "triggered" starts flying around. You came to Amarr loyalists and started rubbing your feces all over the place, did you expect a warm welcome?
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1669
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:00:36 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:I believe the word Pavlovian applies.
No, it doesn't.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2376
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:00:38 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Ben it's rather amazing how triggered the dogs become when words and concepts from power structures come into play.
I believe the word Pavlovian applies.
Oh, lookit that, the 'maximum syntactical complexity' affection drops away! Why, it's almost like you've been full of shite the whole time, and finally realize you're not baffling anyone with your bullcrap.
Are you sure you didn't mean to say 'Chairman Booley, amazement fills my awareness when I observe how intense the visceral reaction from the mendacious lackeys of authority becomes when verbiage and abstract constructions from hierarchical social dynamics are proffered into the discussion'?
Poseur. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2376
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:01:38 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:You know that there's nothing left to say when the word "triggered" starts flying around. You came to Amarr loyalists and started rubbing your feces all over the place, did you expect a warm welcome?
Hey now, don't go making assumptions here, man... I'm not an Amarr loyalist. I'm a jackass. |
Ben Booley
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
25
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:07:48 -
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Arrendis wrote:Ben Booley wrote:I believe that you will find that that pilot is not one of my minions. Oh, so the champion of freedom and individual agency has minions! Wow, that's a dismissive freakin' way to refer to the people supporting your cause. Kinda makes them sound like you don't really encourage them to be free or have individual agency. Almost like you're just another tin-pot warlord lashing out at someone for the crime of being more powerful than you are.
I call them minions because it amuses them, not because they do my every whim.
They choose to follow me not out of fear, but out of love. Fear of god is how the false empress keeps her subjects in line. Pilots of Rote fear nothing. |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:10:47 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Ben it's rather amazing how triggered the dogs become when words and concepts from power structures come into play.
I believe the word Pavlovian applies. You know that there's nothing left to say when the word "triggered" starts flying around. You came to Amarr loyalists and started rubbing your feces all over the place, did you expect a warm welcome?
Flying Black Eagles Automatons Below Me Golden Yet Hollow |
Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
18
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:12:53 -
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Arrendis wrote:Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Ben it's rather amazing how triggered the dogs become when words and concepts from power structures come into play.
I believe the word Pavlovian applies. Oh, lookit that, the 'maximum syntactical complexity' affection drops away! Why, it's almost like you've been full of shite the whole time, and finally realize you're not baffling anyone with your bullcrap. Are you sure you didn't mean to say 'Chairman Booley, amazement fills my awareness when I observe how intense the visceral reaction from the mendacious lackeys of authority becomes when verbiage and abstract constructions from hierarchical social dynamics are proffered into the discussion'? Poseur.
People usually raw ad hominem when their patience for playing another person's song comes to an end.
Thank you for playing.
Our reports are nearly completed. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1669
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:18:31 -
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go on then, who is "Pavlov" then ?
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2383
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:35:19 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:Flying Black Eagles Automatons Below Me Golden Yet Hollow
Like the black eagle in the background on your boss's image there? That's been amusing me all day. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2383
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:39:35 -
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Cheradenine-Zakalwe Amtiskaw wrote:People usually raw ad hominem when their patience for playing another person's song comes to an end.
Thank you for playing.
Our reports are nearly completed.
Ah, the old 'you're resorting to an ad hominem' dodge. Let's review (again):
I'm attacking your sudden abandonment of the affectation you insisted was soooo 'you'. And then I'm calling you a fraud for having the affectation. That's not 'raw ad hominem', that's demonstrating someone's dishonesty, and then simply saying they're dishonest. I'm also mocking you. But it's ok that you missed it, you seem to have missed the fact that I've been doing nothing but mocking you this whole time, Binky. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2383
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:44:19 -
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Ben Booley wrote:I call them minions because it amuses them, not because they do my every whim.
They choose to follow me not out of fear, but out of love. Fear of god is how the false empress keeps her subjects in line. Pilots of Rote fear nothing.
Yup. I'm sure they're totally amused at 'hey, the boss is making us out to be minions to people who have no reason to not believe him and will laugh at him and us for it'. Nothing like the guy in charge demonstrating an incredible lack of awareness to get the people whose reputation he's tarnishing to yuck it on up.
I'm sure they do love you. I'm sure they love looking ineffective and ridiculous like they did last night, too. Heck, they probably even love getting pissed on in public like you're doing now. Such an effective leader. |
Ben Booley
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
25
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Posted - 2016.09.28 20:47:34 -
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Arrendis wrote:Ben Booley wrote:I call them minions because it amuses them, not because they do my every whim.
They choose to follow me not out of fear, but out of love. Fear of god is how the false empress keeps her subjects in line. Pilots of Rote fear nothing. Yup. I'm sure they're totally amused at 'hey, the boss is making us out to be minions to people who have no reason to not believe him and will laugh at him and us for it'. Nothing like the guy in charge demonstrating an incredible lack of awareness to get the people whose reputation he's tarnishing to yuck it on up. I'm sure they do love you. I'm sure they love looking ineffective and ridiculous like they did last night, too. Heck, they probably even love getting pissed on in public like you're doing now. Such an effective leader.
Ineffective and ridiculous put the TES Purity in gravdock for 8 weeks. |
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