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TwilightMadcat Caldari Injection.	Posted - 2007.03.20 23:28:00 - [1] Edited by: TwilightMadcat on 20/03/2007 23:32:47 Thanks CCP. was awesome to log on, and get The Assault level 4, and it not be an absolute joke. Surprising too, that it got reinforcements, but a welcome change :) Thats only mission I've had so far from the new, but was much, much better. (Thank god for my standard level 4 serpentis tank setup, or I'd be out an Astarte lol)
Arakidias	Posted - 2007.03.20 23:35:00 - [2] Yeah, the reinforcements were a nice surprise. I seem to get totally crap salvage from guristas today though, i hope the salvage tables werent tweaked again.
Shayla Etherodyne	Posted - 2007.03.20 23:44:00 - [3] Nice, but getting the reinfocement (with scrambling frigates) while begin sensor dampened, and at 8 Km killed my ship. Happens.
TwilightMadcat Caldari Injection.	Posted - 2007.03.20 23:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Shayla Etherodyne Nice, but getting the reinfocement (with scrambling frigates) while begin sensor dampened, and at 8 Km killed my ship. Happens. yeah that scared me a bit lol. i just webbed/blastered/droned em lol
Karl Wyvern	Posted - 2007.03.21 00:06:00 - [5] Same for "The Damsel in Distress". Warped straight into the midst of loads of BS's and cruisers. luckily I just managed to warp out after bookmarking it. Came back at 100k from BM and managed to kill them . Flying T2 Raven and T2 Rokh with good skills. Then had to destroy Pleasure hub. next loads of reinforcements. I thought I was finished and was about to send one off to pick up salvage Destroyer. Boy was I surprised. made nearly 30 million on that on
Ralle030583 Gallente The Phoenix cor Phoenix Allianz	Posted - 2007.03.21 01:17:00 - [6] Originally by: TwilightMadcat Edited by: TwilightMadcat on 20/03/2007 23:32:47 Thanks CCP. was awesome to log on, and get The Assault level 4, and it not be an absolute joke. Surprising too, that it got reinforcements, but a welcome change :) Thats only mission I've had so far from the new, but was much, much better. (Thank god for my standard level 4 serpentis tank setup, or I'd be out an Astarte lol) yeah that was a surprice in the Assault my first mission after patch and i lost my megathron to it... **** happens ;-) next time i will get a npc specific tank and not standard tank ;-) You need a free Killboard? check: http:\\wwww.eve-kill.net
Veinfiller	Posted - 2007.03.21 03:59:00 - [7] the assault has turned from a walk in the park to a nice mission indeed :-) but loot and salvage was complete crap...about 25% of the battleships dropped loot, and of those most had stuff like 100 thorium L or 1 wasp I. bounties were nice though due to the HACs and the many BS.
Nalar Marnith Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.03.21 04:09:00 - [8] From what I've read about the mods to missions so far, it seems like a much higher percentage of EW being utilised. Nice to see some complexity being introduced beyond simple pewpew. Looks like I'll have to put my Maelstrom aside and get out a Typhoon so I can use FoFs and drones should I be damped/jammed. Looks like the gallente will be a bit more useful in PvE due to drones which is good as I was planning on skilling up as them anyway
Flaming Lemming	Posted - 2007.03.21 05:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Nalar Marnith From what I've read about the mods to missions so far, it seems like a much higher percentage of EW being utilised. Nice to see some complexity being introduced beyond simple pewpew. Looks like I'll have to put my Maelstrom aside and get out a Typhoon so I can use FoFs and drones should I be damped/jammed. Looks like the gallente will be a bit more useful in PvE due to drones which is good as I was planning on skilling up as them anyway Don't use drones in the Assault level 4, will get full room aggro from 160km+ I'm just an Alt....but my main doesn't have a sig either. a forum thread you need to read
El Torrent Gallente Paxton Industries	Posted - 2007.03.21 06:03:00 - [10] Originally by: Flaming Lemming Originally by: Nalar Marnith From what I've read about the mods to missions so far, it seems like a much higher percentage of EW being utilised. Nice to see some complexity being introduced beyond simple pewpew. Looks like I'll have to put my Maelstrom aside and get out a Typhoon so I can use FoFs and drones should I be damped/jammed. Looks like the gallente will be a bit more useful in PvE due to drones which is good as I was planning on skilling up as them anyway Don't use drones in the Assault level 4, will get full room aggro from 160km+ Ah, how nice. More missions I can't run in my trusted Dominix, that is clearly an improvement. Caldari online... -- Paxton Industries Recruiting. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Hango ([email protected])
Radras	Posted - 2007.03.21 06:09:00 - [11] Originally by: El Torrent Originally by: Flaming Lemming Originally by: Nalar Marnith From what I've read about the mods to missions so far, it seems like a much higher percentage of EW being utilised. Nice to see some complexity being introduced beyond simple pewpew. Looks like I'll have to put my Maelstrom aside and get out a Typhoon so I can use FoFs and drones should I be damped/jammed. Looks like the gallente will be a bit more useful in PvE due to drones which is good as I was planning on skilling up as them anyway Don't use drones in the Assault level 4, will get full room aggro from 160km+ Ah, how nice. More missions I can't run in my trusted Dominix, that is clearly an improvement. Caldari online... He speaks the truth i lost 5 wasps in one assault.
Antebellum Sunshine Carebear Crew	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:04:00 - [12] "Attack of the Drones" was interesting aswell.. 500 lp on a lvl4 mission, so I figured it was easy. That was until an Armada of BS sized rouge drones and warp scramblers spawned on top of me. Luckily I got out in 17% structure at the cost of 5 vespas, lol.
Mastin Dragonfly Amarr Navy Runners	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:14:00 - [13] Originally by: Antebellum "Attack of the Drones" was interesting aswell.. 500 lp on a lvl4 mission, so I figured it was easy. That was until an Armada of BS sized rouge drones and warp scramblers spawned on top of me. Luckily I got out in 17% structure at the cost of 5 vespas, lol. Had this one too, had to warp out, though turned out to be my own fault. Never had trouble tanking drone missions so never bothered to doublecheck which resists are needed for them, fitting an omnitank next time will prolly make it easier.
OneSock PLuSQuAMPERFEkT iNc	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:51:00 - [14] Originally by: El Torrent Ah, how nice. More missions I can't run in my trusted Dominix, that is clearly an improvement. Caldari online... QFT. So come on guys, how do I run missions like this and Worlds Collide for example ? Blaster-thron ? Rail Hyperion ? Do not say train caldari...
Mishya Gallente Argentum Angstrum	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:54:00 - [15] Too bad support/logistics ships now gets aggro from warp-in reinforcements. As they can't take much damage, this change really discourages the use of support ships in gangs
Elain Reverse Caldari Shokei	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:54:00 - [16] Originally by: El Torrent Originally by: Flaming Lemming Originally by: Nalar Marnith From what I've read about the mods to missions so far, it seems like a much higher percentage of EW being utilised. Nice to see some complexity being introduced beyond simple pewpew. Looks like I'll have to put my Maelstrom aside and get out a Typhoon so I can use FoFs and drones should I be damped/jammed. Looks like the gallente will be a bit more useful in PvE due to drones which is good as I was planning on skilling up as them anyway Don't use drones in the Assault level 4, will get full room aggro from 160km+ Ah, how nice. More missions I can't run in my trusted Dominix, that is clearly an improvement. Caldari online... I dont think sensor dampeners are caldari friendly. I can do L4s mostly because i can start shooting from 90km and if i get close to them they usualy get pretty good DMG bonus. And i realy dont want to know how to kill BS staying at 50km distance, dampened to 8 km and with heavy ECM. And i realy feel pity for galante drone ships. Semms to me mission will be now best doable by closerange armor tanks. PS: please can I have as Shield tank 2 more mids for EW conter, or their low/high slot vesion, or better hardeners (3 estamels will be fine) so i can free some meds ?!! /irony Oh and fof torps will be fine too.
Kery Nysell Caldari Nysell Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.21 11:58:00 - [17] Originally by: OneSock Originally by: El Torrent Ah, how nice. More missions I can't run in my trusted Dominix, that is clearly an improvement. Caldari online... QFT. So come on guys, how do I run missions like this and Worlds Collide for example ? Blaster-thron ? Rail Hyperion ? Do not say train caldari... I don't know post-patch, but before the patch I had no problems doing the Wolrds Collide (Guris vs Serp) in my Dominix ... you just have to fit guns instead of NOS and use them to draw the aggro to you, and of course you have to keep giving orders to your drones to avoid them going on a rampage ... I'll have to do a few missions to confirm that that still works tough (and hope that my agent gives me the right missions for the test ...).
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.03.21 12:01:00 - [18] This patch confuse me. I thought the gap between lv3 and lv4 missions was going to be reduced, but it seems the contrary happened... ------------------------------------------ A big nuke may be nice in a strategy game, but something like this in a game where every unit is a player, and each death costly, is insane.
Fenella Caldari Dangermouse Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.21 12:14:00 - [19] Well, i'm quite annoyed really. I started a friend playing a few months ago and we run missions together, he specifically trained up Logistics ships and relevent skills and now we run as a Gank Raven / Basilisk duo with him doing loot/salv as we kill. My skills are all offensive, as we work as a team. Now, with all these mid level timed and triggered spawns he's either warping in out all the time of freezing up and ending in a pod. You just made Logistics ships on missions and extremely hazardous proposition, I thought you were trying to make these thing MORE about multiplayr interaction than making them LESS multiplayer friendly. Good Job
Elain Reverse Caldari Shokei	Posted - 2007.03.21 12:26:00 - [20] Originally by: Fenella Well, i'm quite annoyed really. I started a friend playing a few months ago and we run missions together, he specifically trained up Logistics ships and relevent skills and now we run as a Gank Raven / Basilisk duo with him doing loot/salv as we kill. My skills are all offensive, as we work as a team. Now, with all these mid level timed and triggered spawns he's either warping in out all the time of freezing up and ending in a pod. Yep, CCP gone too far, when even faction ships have problems with easier missions, i wouldnt dare even try hardest ones now and was able solo them before patch fit T2 fited raven. It seems overal DPS was boosted and our DPS prety screwed (no drones, no support ships, heavy EW from NPC plus reinforcements) You just made Logistics ships on missions and extremely hazardous proposition, I thought you were trying to make these thing MORE about multiplayr interaction than making them LESS multiplayer friendly. Good Job
OneSock PLuSQuAMPERFEkT iNc	Posted - 2007.03.21 12:27:00 - [21] Originally by: Kery Nysell I don't know post-patch, but before the patch I had no problems doing the Wolrds Collide (Guris vs Serp) in my Dominix ... you just have to fit guns instead of NOS and use them to draw the aggro to you, and of course you have to keep giving orders to your drones to avoid them going on a rampage ... I'll have to do a few missions to confirm that that still works tough (and hope that my agent gives me the right missions for the test ...). I've got a full T2 tank, 87% kin, 85% Therm, dual LAR, and a full set of 250mm rails. I cannot tank both Serp and Gurista mobs on the first room at the same time. DPS is too much. Serp agro is not a problem but as soon as I try and use drones then the guristas agro from great distance. 250mm rails on their own are not enough to break the BS tanks. I'd need larger guns, but the Domi does not have the grid for large guns and a decent tank. what to do ?
Shadowsword COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.03.21 12:38:00 - [22] Originally by: OneSock I've got a full T2 tank, 87% kin, 85% Therm, dual LAR, and a full set of 250mm rails. I cannot tank both Serp and Gurista mobs on the first room at the same time. DPS is too much. Serp agro is not a problem but as soon as I try and use drones then the guristas agro from great distance. 250mm rails on their own are not enough to break the BS tanks. I'd need larger guns, but the Domi does not have the grid for large guns and a decent tank. what to do ? Try using an Astarte/Nighthawk? It should tank enough to deal with the serpentis, then the guristas... ------------------------------------------ A big nuke may be nice in a strategy game, but something like this in a game where every unit is a player, and each death costly, is insane.
Henry Fredyericus Gallente H.F. Enterprises 3asy Company	Posted - 2007.03.21 12:49:00 - [23] Originally by: OneSock Originally by: Kery Nysell I don't know post-patch, but before the patch I had no problems doing the Wolrds Collide (Guris vs Serp) in my Dominix ... you just have to fit guns instead of NOS and use them to draw the aggro to you, and of course you have to keep giving orders to your drones to avoid them going on a rampage ... I'll have to do a few missions to confirm that that still works tough (and hope that my agent gives me the right missions for the test ...). I've got a full T2 tank, 87% kin, 85% Therm, dual LAR, and a full set of 250mm rails. I cannot tank both Serp and Gurista mobs on the first room at the same time. DPS is too much. Serp agro is not a problem but as soon as I try and use drones then the guristas agro from great distance. 250mm rails on their own are not enough to break the BS tanks. I'd need larger guns, but the Domi does not have the grid for large guns and a decent tank. what to do ? Dominix is at best with drones. Need I say more ? Only when the tide goes out, you see who's been swimming naked... - Mr. Buffet
Mrrzah Amarr Word of Blake	Posted - 2007.03.21 12:57:00 - [24] Did 'The Assault' (vs. Guristas) yesterday and have to say it's a PITA. As Amarr (Abaddon / 6 best named Tach Beams / 87%kin 80%therm setup, not optimal certainly, but that's what my SP allows) I have a hard time breaking the tank of even the 400k BSs, let alone those elite BCs with a 90% tank. Had to jump out twice on the first stage and after killing one spawn in the second one, the rest aggroed me. Spending a few minutes jammed with the occasional salvo at a ship and looking at my armor being drained slowly I jumped out and aborted the mission. I'll probably lose my hair soon enough, I don't need missions that make me tear em out myself, thank you very much.
Kery Nysell Caldari Nysell Incorporated	Posted - 2007.03.21 13:36:00 - [25] Originally by: OneSock Originally by: Kery Nysell I don't know post-patch, but before the patch I had no problems doing the Wolrds Collide (Guris vs Serp) in my Dominix ... you just have to fit guns instead of NOS and use them to draw the aggro to you, and of course you have to keep giving orders to your drones to avoid them going on a rampage ... I'll have to do a few missions to confirm that that still works tough (and hope that my agent gives me the right missions for the test ...). I've got a full T2 tank, 87% kin, 85% Therm, dual LAR, and a full set of 250mm rails. I cannot tank both Serp and Gurista mobs on the first room at the same time. DPS is too much. Serp agro is not a problem but as soon as I try and use drones then the guristas agro from great distance. 250mm rails on their own are not enough to break the BS tanks. I'd need larger guns, but the Domi does not have the grid for large guns and a decent tank. what to do ? Here's what I did, worked like a charm : 3 Drone Link Augmentors in the highs (117 kms control range with my skills), a Sensor Booster in the meds (to boost my locking range to about 125 kms), I just ignored the Serpentis at first since they don't hit at the starting range of the mission, "aggroed" the Guristas with my 3 Electron Blaster Cannons (you don't need to hit, just shoot), launched my 5 Wardens (62.5 kms optimal + 25 kms falloff with my skills) and "sniped" the Guristas while everything was closing in on me ... killed the BCs first, it's the insane amount of Scourge they throw that hurt the most, and they pop in a couple of volleys of the Wardens ... and after that, I didn't even need my second LAR ... Yes, the first couple of minute was a bit tense, my reppers struggled to cope, but once you kill the BCs, the damage you take is drastically reduced ... and the Serpentis weren't even in range yet. Of course, my gun damage is abysmal, I only use my guns for "pulling" and killing the odd BC/destroyer that orbit at ~10 kms, but my main weapons are my drones anyway ...
teko82	Posted - 2007.03.21 14:00:00 - [26] No more lvl1 mining missions it seems, lvl2 missions doable in af frig What's the point of having lvl1 if lvl2 is the same now? I've done 50+ lvl1's one had some ore in it, I'm on my 15' lvl2, not one worth mining in.. The storylines seems to be the same..
Mangus Thermopyle Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.03.21 14:43:00 - [27] Edited by: Mangus Thermopyle on 21/03/2007 14:40:38 wtf, forums are fubar.
OneSock PLuSQuAMPERFEkT iNc	Posted - 2007.03.21 15:23:00 - [28] Yup, did WC by kiting the guristas first, then the serp when the get in range. In fact they actually gave up chasing me at one point and switched to my drones, so splash a couple of wasps. oh well. Still got the problem with the drones not MWD back to ship properly. nice of CCP to fix that bug... NOT.
Presidente Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.21 15:38:00 - [29] Originally by: OneSock Originally by: El Torrent Ah, how nice. More missions I can't run in my trusted Dominix, that is clearly an improvement. Caldari online... QFT. So come on guys, how do I run missions like this and Worlds Collide for example ? Blaster-thron ? Rail Hyperion ? Do not say train caldari... Rail, Drone Myrmidon ... solo!

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