:please don your tin foil hats before proceeding further:

Is there any proof that "report bot" has been used by CCP as more than a "feel good feature" for legitmate players?
Have there been any bots banned by CCP after having been reported using that tool?

As far as I know, CCP won't release any information along those lines. If they won't do that, then it is impossible to determine if the "report bot" feature is even valid. It may be that CCP put it there with no intention of ever using it beyond it fooling the gullible into thinking it is a legitimate way to get CCP to take action. Outside of CCP stepping in and showing proof, not just a dev post saying "yes we do", the community is left in the dark about it. As a result, speculation, accusation, and treachery will abound.

Might be PL would kick any botting char that got caught and blown. Not because it is ~immoral~, but because he is stupid enough to do it on a main and not on an alt in a renter alliance in some god-forgotten null system.

And on a more serious note, the answer is yes, at least one such alliance exists.

When an alliance's subs reach critical level they're given carte blanche to do whatever they like.

Here, do this.
Join a major alliance.
Read their forums.
Note down all the cheats they suggest you get in on and don't care who knows it.
Watch how those chars aren't banned.

Finally, you too can just stop caring.
Somebody will start botting incursions at some point. Then CCP really will have a dilemma on their hands.

Nice tinfoil hat. Goonswarm was one of the unnamed alliances I mentioned, which I believe (according to my sources) has a "don't report bots" policy. It's not "bots are okay" but it's effectively that anyway. The reason that is put in place is because of idiots who would go through friendly systems reporting every single ratter for botting, which causes unnecessary drama and headaches for everyone. Even worse if those friendly systems are in an ally's space, not the own alliance's space.

I mean, it's understandable, but sort of sad. And that doesn't answer my question either way.

While I in general realy hate Goons becouse of all their highsec ganking bullshit .... this argument I can understand.

Goons are 6000 people. The leaders simply can not know every member. And from history ("we just play to destroy your game and we have fun doing it") there are for sure many butheads in Goons (including some of the leaders).
Hell, I can even imagin a offizial program from Goons called: "DDOS bot pettion section with mass reporting everyone" just for lulz.

But in general all 00/low ally leader know, their member can just PvP if they have some ISK. And with the general "I want PvP and hate all PvE" mentality ... they would detroy their babys (allys) if they use a 100% anti bot policy.

Some are better known for botting (Goons, NC, russen mafia). Some do it more silent (CVA *cry*).

It's pretty simple: any Alliance that takes a strong stand against botting will lose the 0.0 game as a result and no longer be a viable Alliance in Eve. It's counterproductive for them to report on their own ISK making activities, so why would they? No, it's CCP that needs to step up their efforts against bots...but wait, then they'll lose real life sub dollars, so why would they do that?? A never ending problem...too many people are on the take.

Yep I have access to forums that in turn, have access to alliance financials; I should most certainly be punished and subject to immediate scorn for aligning myself with an online organization that wants transparency with its members.

I don't give a **** about botters, I don't care who RMT's... Honestly with the amount of effort you plebes put into this tin foil hattery, you could potentially realize there are better things to do then worry about what people are doing in areas of the game your afraid to step foot into.

Your as bad as that old ***** down the street- who sits around all day and counts how many times everyone in the neighborhood pisses, eats and fucks.

I have more likes than you.

You and Prince Kobol have just explained why there is no "game" in EVE and why there is no rational reason to even attempt playing the sovereignty side of EVE. Until CCP steps up the coding in EVE, the sandbox is nothing more than a cat box filled with catpoop. If you want to play in it, you must get dirty.

This is the reason I have cancelled all accounts and just send isk for PLEX these days to watch the inevitable decline.

While I in general realy hate Goons becouse of all their highsec ganking bullshit .... this argument I can understand.

Goons are 6000 people. The leaders simply can not know every member. And from history ("we just play to destroy your game and we have fun doing it") there are for sure many butheads in Goons (including some of the leaders).
Hell, I can even imagin a offizial program from Goons called: "DDOS bot pettion section with mass reporting everyone" just for lulz.

But in general all 00/low ally leader know, their member can just PvP if they have some ISK. And with the general "I want PvP and hate all PvE" mentality ... they would detroy their babys (allys) if they use a 100% anti bot policy.

Some are better known for botting (Goons, NC, russen mafia). Some do it more silent (CVA *cry*).

There is no way to truly know which alliances, nullsec or otherwise, actually police and kick members for botting. What we do know are which alliances bot and allow their members to do so...

*coughttestgoonswarmcough*

Sorry. I don't want to point them out. I hate finger pointing.

There is no way to truly know which alliances, nullsec or otherwise, actually police and kick members for botting. What we do know are which alliances bot and allow their members to do so...

*coughttestgoonswarmcough*

Sorry. I don't want to point them out. I hate finger pointing.

You mean virtually all of them, by the sounds of this thread?

thats terribad.

I heard that the goon fleets currently murdering white noise consist entierly of bots.

There is no way to truly know which alliances, nullsec or otherwise, actually police and kick members for botting. What we do know are which alliances bot and allow their members to do so...

*coughttestgoonswarmcough*

Sorry. I don't want to point them out. I hate finger pointing.

You don't understand how this works. Goonswarm does not condone botting we just don't believe in our members doing CCP's job for them.

There is no way to truly know which alliances, nullsec or otherwise, actually police and kick members for botting. What we do know are which alliances bot and allow their members to do so...

*coughttestgoonswarmcough*

Sorry. I don't want to point them out. I hate finger pointing.

Actually, the policy is don't shoot bots (because you don't actually know it is a bot, you can only assume). We don't give a flying **** if someone reports a bot.

Actually, I believe there has been cases of some testie reporting every goon (or everyone non-test) flying through fountain, though, and I'm not sure if that was something he told the guys he reported about it, or if he just did it silently, but there were some drama there.

Edit: Ah.

"Don't report the bots guys, make CCP do it."

So, you report every J-walker, speeder, double parking, litterer, and that guy who blew through the stop sign, to the authorities? What is your phone bill like, and how do you find time for EVE and posting?

Not our job, but we can drop a dime if we want to. :effort:

One day the fair players will realise, the cheaters have such an advantage, they can never take on and will ahve never a chance to strike back and have any competition on a simular level.

Do you know any other unfunny memes?

"Don't report the bots guys, make CCP do it."

I tend to save clever articulations to those who can use them.